More Christian love
misanthropic_curmudgeon
"A 55-year-old man who beat his daughter over the head with a lump of
concrete when she refused to go to his Mormon church "does not
understand what all the fuss is about", Hastings District Court has
heard."
seon
"misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com>
wrote in message
news:9a75d01e-1a6a-44c5...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
If that's Christian love I would rather go to hell.
ChristianKnight
> "misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com>
> wrote in messagenews:9a75d01e-1a6a-44c5...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10583411
>
> > "A 55-year-old man who beat his daughter over the head with a lump of
> > concrete when she refused to go to his Mormon church "does not
> > understand what all the fuss is about", Hastings District Court has
> > heard."
>
> If that's Christian love I would rather go to hell.
Best wishes.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
12 months jail shall give him plenty.
Christ's love
seon
"ChristianKnight" <Christi...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:ecd4cd06-d081-4ac4...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Thanks at least I'll be in good company.
ChristianKnight
> "ChristianKnight" <ChristianKni...@operamail.com> wrote in message
If your into pain and torture, but thats not my choice
Comfort, pleasure rushes and scientific discovery my line.
Christ's love
seon
"ChristianKnight" <Christi...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:bfe21796-9339-4458...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this question. How can
our SOULS feel any pain?
Hipupchuck
> PR 22:15 Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child;
[But] the ROD of correction shall drive it far from him.
> PR 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child; [For]
if thou beat him with the ROD, he will not die
Uncle Vic
>>
>> If your into pain and torture, but thats not my choice
>> Comfort, pleasure rushes and scientific discovery my line.
>> Christ's love
>
> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this question. How
> can our SOULS feel any pain?
>
>
Or, why does the soul break down when the brain's chemistry is altered by
the administration of a few too many drinks?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
Looking forward to May 21, 2012 or is it 2011? Or is it sometime in
December? These idiots can't even agree...
L.Roberts
Oh. That's easy. The 'soul' starts showing it's true nature when
primed with a bit too much alcohol.
I think. Put it this way. Some time ago (I'm now 22 yrs. sober. and
that without ever buying into aa's god bullshit) I went whole yrs.
without drawing a sober breath, and during some periods drank myself
well into 'blackout' on a nightly basis. On a conscious level, I was,
well, 'passed out' and consciously, recorded nothing, and some more
primal part of my 'psyche' was doing my walking, talking, drinking,
and yes, every fucking night, driving. I would usually wake up after
sun-up as I slid sideways into the driveway. They were some
infuckingsane times and I was just one very lucky bastard that I never
killed anyone. One night, as I fish tailed in some sand banging a hard
left, I lost the dude with me out the front passengers door (it so
happened that I 'came to' at that moment) and I remember seeing him
slide away on his back. He bent the door handle back from trying to
hang on (he had been holding the door shut 'cause I'd fucked it up
earlier that night) and I stopped right there in the middle of the
street and went and told him to quit lying around like that or the
police might notice and give us shit. He had a huge raw spot on his
back 'cause his leather jacket had rolled up and didn't think it was
very funny. Crazy fucking night that was.
L.Roberts
aa # 2258
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
news:ecd4cd06-d081-4ac4...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
Ohhhhh, SNAP.
> Christ's love
*smirk*
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication
aa # 1939
Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
Diploma Mill: a religious facility where minds are ground into powder.
Ben Kaufman
>One fine day in alt.atheism, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> If your into pain and torture, but thats not my choice
>>> Comfort, pleasure rushes and scientific discovery my line.
>>> Christ's love
>>
>> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
>> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this question. How
>> can our SOULS feel any pain?
>>
>>
>
>Or, why does the soul break down when the brain's chemistry is altered by
>the administration of a few too many drinks?
Maybe it's like the Trill/symbiont of Deep Space 9?
Ben
seon
"Uncle Vic" <add...@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C436EE1...@216.196.97.131...
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> If your into pain and torture, but thats not my choice
>>> Comfort, pleasure rushes and scientific discovery my line.
>>> Christ's love
>>
>> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
>> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this question. How
>> can our SOULS feel any pain?
>>
>>
>
> Or, why does the soul break down when the brain's chemistry is altered by
> the administration of a few too many drinks?
>
Yeah maybe the Soul is connected to the brain (sorry I've been reading
destiny of souls). But then there is the transporter problem where the brain
is split up as well.
seon
"Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote
in message news:Xns9C43BEFA7120...@216.77.188.18...
> ChristianKnight <Christi...@operamail.com> wrote in
> news:ecd4cd06-d081-4ac4...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Jul 9, 6:37 pm, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>>> "misanthropic_curmudgeon"
>>> <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com> wrote in
>>> messagenews:9a75d01e-1a6a-44c5...@z4g2000prh.goog
>> legroups.com...>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&ob
>> jectid=10583411
>>>
>>> > "A 55-year-old man who beat his daughter over the head with a lump
>>> > of concrete when she refused to go to his Mormon church "does not
>>> > understand what all the fuss is about", Hastings District Court has
>>> > heard."
>>>
>>> If that's Christian love I would rather go to hell.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>
> Ohhhhh, SNAP.
>
>> Christ's love
>
> *smirk*
>
Its like Brother ted. God hates fags but don't forget Jesus loves you and so
do I.
Uncle Vic
>
>
> "Uncle Vic" <add...@withheld.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C436EE1...@216.196.97.131...
>> One fine day in alt.atheism, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> If your into pain and torture, but thats not my choice
>>>> Comfort, pleasure rushes and scientific discovery my line.
>>>> Christ's love
>>>
>>> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
>>> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this question.
>>> How can our SOULS feel any pain?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Or, why does the soul break down when the brain's chemistry is
>> altered by the administration of a few too many drinks?
>>
> Yeah maybe the Soul is connected to the brain (sorry I've been reading
> destiny of souls). But then there is the transporter problem where the
> brain is split up as well.
>
>
Or, maybe the "soul" is just a misinterpretation by babbling religious
fools of the consciousness created by the electro-chemical reactions in
certain lobes of the brain, as science has discovered.
Check this out.
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/ghost.html
Uncle Vic
>> Or, why does the soul break down when the brain's chemistry is
>> altered by the administration of a few too many drinks?
>
> Oh. That's easy. The 'soul' starts showing it's true nature when
> primed with a bit too much alcohol.
>
> I think. Put it this way. Some time ago (I'm now 22 yrs. sober. and
> that without ever buying into aa's god bullshit) I went whole yrs.
> without drawing a sober breath, and during some periods drank myself
> well into 'blackout' on a nightly basis. On a conscious level, I was,
> well, 'passed out' and consciously, recorded nothing, and some more
> primal part of my 'psyche' was doing my walking, talking, drinking,
> and yes, every fucking night, driving. I would usually wake up after
> sun-up as I slid sideways into the driveway. They were some
> infuckingsane times and I was just one very lucky bastard that I never
> killed anyone. One night, as I fish tailed in some sand banging a hard
> left, I lost the dude with me out the front passengers door (it so
> happened that I 'came to' at that moment) and I remember seeing him
> slide away on his back. He bent the door handle back from trying to
> hang on (he had been holding the door shut 'cause I'd fucked it up
> earlier that night) and I stopped right there in the middle of the
> street and went and told him to quit lying around like that or the
> police might notice and give us shit. He had a huge raw spot on his
> back 'cause his leather jacket had rolled up and didn't think it was
> very funny. Crazy fucking night that was.
I almost reached that point a few weeks ago at the Stratosphere in Vegas.
I'm pretty sure I left $50 on a video poker machine when I fell off the
bar stool trying to get up to go to the restroom. My wife found me
wandering around and took me to the buffet to get some food in there. I
don't remember, but the evidence was on my shirt. My gambling buddy woke
up the next morning with an extra thousand dollars in his wallet.
Somebody told him he hit a straight-flush.
Yeah, that's no lifestyle for me. Nice little 6-pack beer buzz is fine,
but I'm starting to think it's time to quit. The acid reflux in the
middle of the night is killing me...
Misanthropic Curmudgeon
> "misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com>
>
> > "A 55-year-old man who beat his daughter over the head with a lump of
> > concrete when she refused to go to his Mormon church "does not
> > understand what all the fuss is about", Hastings District Court has
> > heard."
>
> If that's Christian love I would rather go to hell.
You and me both, boyo.
Consider this, Seon, in light of your coming out and philisophical
musings:
1) Two young people each give their lives, perhaps for another person
or ideal (perhaps they are soldiers?). Which one gives the bigger
gift or has the bigger sacrifice?
2) If you do anything for long enough, you become bored with it.
Even mainline junkies and 'base-jumpers' need 'more' as they
aclimitise to their state. Surely then an eternity in either heaven
or hell will eventually get boring. Following such logic, there is no
real difference between heaven and hell, as the result of eternity in
either is overwhelming and oppressive boredom.
seon
"Uncle Vic" <add...@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C43C5AE...@216.196.97.131...
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Uncle Vic" <add...@withheld.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C436EE1...@216.196.97.131...
>>> One fine day in alt.atheism, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If your into pain and torture, but thats not my choice
>>>>> Comfort, pleasure rushes and scientific discovery my line.
>>>>> Christ's love
>>>>
>>>> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
>>>> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this question.
>>>> How can our SOULS feel any pain?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or, why does the soul break down when the brain's chemistry is
>>> altered by the administration of a few too many drinks?
>>>
>> Yeah maybe the Soul is connected to the brain (sorry I've been reading
>> destiny of souls). But then there is the transporter problem where the
>> brain is split up as well.
>>
>>
>
> Or, maybe the "soul" is just a misinterpretation by babbling religious
> fools of the consciousness created by the electro-chemical reactions in
> certain lobes of the brain, as science has discovered.
>
> Check this out.
>
> http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/ghost.html
>
Possibly I guess I haven't shed all my religious baggage because I like to
believe we are all consciousness or something. I need a crash course in
physics and all that stat!
seon
"Misanthropic Curmudgeon" <misanthropi...@breastcancermail.com>
wrote in message
news:212297fb-3039-4400...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 9, 6:37 pm, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>> "misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com>
>> wrote in
>> messagenews:9a75d01e-1a6a-44c5...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10583411
>>
>> > "A 55-year-old man who beat his daughter over the head with a lump of
>> > concrete when she refused to go to his Mormon church "does not
>> > understand what all the fuss is about", Hastings District Court has
>> > heard."
>>
>> If that's Christian love I would rather go to hell.
>
> You and me both, boyo.
>
Well at least we'll be in good company.
> Consider this, Seon, in light of your coming out and philisophical
> musings:
>
> 1) Two young people each give their lives, perhaps for another person
> or ideal (perhaps they are soldiers?). Which one gives the bigger
> gift or has the bigger sacrifice?
>
Well the person is real. But the ideal the person giving his or her life for
might be just as real to him and her. As I said we all have our own truths.
> 2) If you do anything for long enough, you become bored with it.
> Even mainline junkies and 'base-jumpers' need 'more' as they
> aclimitise to their state. Surely then an eternity in either heaven
> or hell will eventually get boring. Following such logic, there is no
> real difference between heaven and hell, as the result of eternity in
> either is overwhelming and oppressive boredom.
>
Yeah that's another reason I am drawn to reincarnation. But there is still
no evidence. At least we keep forgetting our past lives each time we are
reborn so each birth is fresh. But what the heck do we do in heaven for
millions of years?
And before any atheist points it out yes, I now understand reincarnation is
a religious concept and there is no definitive proof. It just makes more
sense to me.
seon
"seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote in message
news:4a56ca66$0$2836$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
Yep it looks like I haven't shaken off all religion, just Christianity,
Judaism and Islam. Well I don't agree with everything Buddhism or Hinduism
say as well...So that's just 6 I guess oh and I don't think there's a bunch
of Gods and Goddesses so that's 7.
Uncle Vic
We are. But only recently have we discovered what causes it. The
concept of a single soul residing and controlling the human mind makes no
sense when we study disorders of the human mind such as schizophrenia.
Add to that memory loss when a certain lobe of the brain is damaged, or
stark changes in personality when damage occurs to the frontal lobes - it
becomes obvious. We've found a mass of evidence as to what causes us to
be "us". The religious claim it is the soul - but where is their
evidence?
> I need a crash
> course in physics and all that stat!
>
You also need to get over it, and it takes time. It's like losing a
family member. Or accepting your own death. Look at the bright side.
There is no hell.
ChristianKnight
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >news:Xns9C43C5AE...@216.196.97.131...
> >> One fine day in alt.atheism, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
>
> December? These idiots can't even agree...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Very interesting.
I propose the soul is the essence of a person.
Like the smell of a flower. And the Brain and memory is a part of that
essence.
When they are cremated or buried their chemical composition disperses
but how far apart we do not know.
In the ground plants and soil absorb the chemicals.
I believe the human soul is the mingling of chemicals that due to
natural forces remaining .
Even with rotting decay it may be more than one nano partical at a
time. There could be tiny groups of chemical that still bond with a
magnetic attraction even unseen but certainly not unsmelt on the
recently disposed carcas of a dead animal.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
Why be bored when you know their is an infinite number of ways to give
good pleasure and nurturing exciting creation and healing and watching
changes within and without.
SURELY ETERNAL DARKNESS AND EVERLASTING BURNING TORMENT HOLDS MUCH
LESS INTEREST and not worth earthly disease causing uncontroling
lusts.
Christ's love
Robibnikoff
Prove it.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight
#1557
ChristianKnight
> "ChristianKnight" <ChristianKni...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
How?
Leave a paper bag with one of my turds on your door step?
You shall then smell my drifting soul when you step out the door and
step on the tightly strung filled paper bag when it pops.
When it pops, poop shall spatter on your pjama's bottoms and you can
share my soul with your entire family when you return indoors to
complain your science discovery stinks.
My proof is that a linger occurs away from solid matter.
Christ's love
Robibnikoff
>How?
Your stupidity is your problem, not mine.
<bullshit deleted>
Uncle Vic
<Christi...@operamail.com> wrote:
> Very interesting.
> I propose the soul is the essence of a person.
Good for you. Now prove it, as science has proven the opposite.
> Like the smell of a flower. And the Brain and memory is a part of that
> essence.
Idiot. Study some science before you make a fool of yourself in public.
> When they are cremated or buried their chemical composition disperses
> but how far apart we do not know.
> In the ground plants and soil absorb the chemicals.
> I believe the human soul is the mingling of chemicals that due to
> natural forces remaining .
Good for you. You need to learn the difference between believing and
knowing.
> Even with rotting decay it may be more than one nano partical at a
> time. There could be tiny groups of chemical that still bond with a
> magnetic attraction even unseen but certainly not unsmelt on the
> recently disposed carcas of a dead animal.
Which has exactly *what* to do with the human mind?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
Looking forward to May 21, 2012 or is it 2011? Or is it sometime in
Uncle Vic
<Christi...@operamail.com> wrote:
>> <I propose the soul is the essence of a person.
>>
>> Prove it.
>
> How?
> Leave a paper bag with one of my turds on your door step?
> You shall then smell my drifting soul when you step out the door and
> step on the tightly strung filled paper bag when it pops.
Bwaaaaahahahahahahaha!
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
Looking forward to May 21, 2012 or is it 2011? Or is it sometime in
ChristianKnight
>
> Which has exactly *what* to do with the human mind?
Human mind is a structure of matter made up from particles atoms and
nono sized objects that were atracted their in a uniformed process
intrigal enough to provide a function.
Now given that decay is gradual we do not measure the graduality so
groups of these particles thatt have similiar nano bases shay disperse
at different times but that is not to say all matter travels on the
wind at the same time and all magnetic attractions have the same
force.
plants draw from the soil certain foods that help them nourish and the
souls people have are a composition they shall float to the time
attraction compels, like the goodness the rain brings earth,.
We cannot say the soul is a fart or a breath a tear or peeling skin
because the soul is all of thoise it is the speacial unique chemical ,
miniral composition that makes up each individual human being.
Sopme shall attract to the abyss and some to eternal life depending on
free choice for as all life the ability to change is appararent.
Christ's love
be...@eex.net
did you make this up yourself?
or did you have help, either way, you need help.
Bill.
Lisbeth Andersson
news:4a55cbc9$0$2841$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>
> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this
> question. How can our SOULS feel any pain?
>
>
For some reason most churches keep very quiet about the idea that you
will get your body back at some future point (I think it is at the
last judgement). Of course that only works if your body has been
buried whole in consecrated ground. That's why executed criminals were
usually buried near the place they were killed, and "witches" had
their bodies burned even if they were killed before being put on the
fire, it was some kind of extra punishment - they would not have any
chance of an afterlife. It is also why some christian versions still
regard cremation as a Very Bad Thing (is the catholic church still
insisting on no cremation? - I think it is but cannot be bothered to
check). Also some versions are opposed to organ transplants - you are
going to need that liver in the afterlife.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
ChristianKnight
> "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote innews:4a55cbc9$0$2841$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
The Bible talks about 2 kinds of heavenly journeys 1stly itsd the
masses of good people who have died and after a thousand years their
souls are accepted into the journey to heaven then 2ndly their is a
smaller group who will not ever pyhisically die whpo shall journey to
heaven intact .
Many modern churchs hide the fact that you do not have to die because
this encourage people look vigorously care upon their immune system
taxing food resorces and creating large numbers of illectuals that
question aurthority and oppresive governmental regimes that prefer to
keep the masses subserviant and meagre.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
>
> - Show quoted text -
I had help, yes, from the bible.
Christ's love
seon
"Lisbeth Andersson" <lis...@bredband.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9C4617A095EDl...@69.16.185.252...
> "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote in
> news:4a55cbc9$0$2841$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>
>>
>> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
>> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this
>> question. How can our SOULS feel any pain?
>>
>>
>
> For some reason most churches keep very quiet about the idea that you
> will get your body back at some future point (I think it is at the
> last judgement). Of course that only works if your body has been
> buried whole in consecrated ground. That's why executed criminals were
> usually buried near the place they were killed, and "witches" had
> their bodies burned even if they were killed before being put on the
> fire, it was some kind of extra punishment - they would not have any
> chance of an afterlife. It is also why some christian versions still
> regard cremation as a Very Bad Thing (is the catholic church still
> insisting on no cremation? - I think it is but cannot be bothered to
> check). Also some versions are opposed to organ transplants - you are
> going to need that liver in the afterlife.
>
>
Trouble is those so called witches get a nice afterlife while those who did
the burning will have a crappy future life.
seon
"Uncle Vic" <add...@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C445606...@216.196.97.131...
There is none. Its like God. Either you accept people have had NDE's, OBE's,
seen ghosts etc or you believe it is all in their mind.
It makes sense to me. Once we have control of the human mind we think we are
the experience so that's why we get mental problems and even now that i
realise we are not the experience but I'm the experiencer having this human
experience I am still susceptible to those disorders.
Oh wait i get what you were trying to say, because the brain gets damaged or
something we have memory loss! So obviously yes some aspects of the mind can
get influenced by the brain. But what about sub conscious memories that can
only come to the surface from hypnosis? We can't find the area of the brain
they exist.
Phew at least I got what you meant in the end. At least I hope. if i didn't
maybe I am hopeless.
>> I need a crash
>> course in physics and all that stat!
>>
>
> You also need to get over it, and it takes time. It's like losing a
> family member. Or accepting your own death. Look at the bright side.
> There is no hell.
>
> --
Yep no hell bellow us. Above us only sky.
Lisbeth Andersson
news:4a5937c7$0$9757$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>
>
> "Lisbeth Andersson" <lis...@bredband.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C4617A095EDl...@69.16.185.252...
>> "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote in
>> news:4a55cbc9$0$2841$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>>
>>>
>>> If your into myths and fairy tales, but that's not MY choice.
>>> By the way no Christian has even bothered to answer this
>>> question. How can our SOULS feel any pain?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> For some reason most churches keep very quiet about the idea
>> that you will get your body back at some future point <...>
>>
>>
> Trouble is those so called witches get a nice afterlife while
> those who did the burning will have a crappy future life.
>
Well, not according to the myths .-( And not in reality either. No
afterlife, and there is no guarantee that good things do not happen to
bad people. (I'm not quite sure what your current opinion is on
afterlives and karma :-P )
Uncle Vic
<Christi...@operamail.com> wrote:
Notice how they dodge the part about supplying evidence for their
claims...
walksalone
216.196.97.131:
> One fine day in alt.atheism, ChristianKnight
> <Christi...@operamail.com> wrote:
snip
>> Sopme shall attract to the abyss and some to eternal life depending on
>> free choice for as all life the ability to change is appararent.
>> Christ's love
>
> Notice how they dodge the part about supplying evidence for their
> claims...
I like the free choice part, you know, Adam, Lilith, Eve, Abraham, Moses,
every Hebrew Prophet, the Pharoah in Exodus, all those that just told god
to suck an egg, & it did. Did anyone find such a passage?
BTW, am I the only one that reads the Hebrew Bible as a national epic?
Makes way more sense that way. & the bragging is typical of such tomes.
walkslaone who needs a break, now where is that beer that's been calling
my name since 4AM this morning? Ah, pop a top time has arrived.
We must not hold back in the battle for children's minds
[Church of England spokesman]
be...@eex.neet
pray tell then where in the bible it talks about atoms, nano sized
objects and and that the soul is a fart.
interested to see what passes for a reply.
Misanthropic Curmudgeon
> "Misanthropic Curmudgeon" <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com>
> wrote in messagenews:212297fb-3039-4400...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...> On Jul 9, 6:37 pm, "seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
> >> "misanthropic_curmudgeon" <misanthropiccurmudg...@breastcancermail.com>
> >> wrote in
> >> messagenews:9a75d01e-1a6a-44c5...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10583411
>
> >> > "A 55-year-old man who beat his daughter over the head with a lump of
> >> > concrete when she refused to go to his Mormon church "does not
> >> > understand what all the fuss is about", Hastings District Court has
> >> > heard."
>
> >> If that's Christian love I would rather go to hell.
>
> > You and me both, boyo.
>
> Well at least we'll be in good company.
>
> > Consider this, Seon, in light of your coming out and philisophical
> > musings:
>
> > 1) Two young people each give their lives, perhaps for another person
> > or ideal (perhaps they are soldiers?). Which one gives the bigger
> > gift or has the bigger sacrifice?
>
> Well the person is real. But the ideal the person giving his or her life for
> might be just as real to him and her. As I said we all have our own truths.
The beliver believes he gives only this life, and will have an
eternity with their gos and loved ones.
The atheist gives everything he holds true - every future moment with
his lover, and with his children. He'll never see them learn to ride
a bike, to play, to laugh. His hopes and dreams are sacrificed.
The atheist sacrrifice is therefore a greater one.