When TYRANTS and BIGOTS Abuse Religious Philosophies to CON Societies...
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When TYRANTS and BIGOTS Abuse Religious Philosophies
to CON Societies...
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:57:54 GMT,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 70,000,000 were killed under atheist terror, torture and
> mass murder...
Atheism is totally harmless. The fact that 20th-century
tyrants used it as an excuse for their despicable acts and
pogroms cannot be regarded as an indictment of atheism.
A good example of this can be seen TODAY in the hateful
and antisocial agendas of the RRR and LDS Cults. They *claim*
to be Christian, in the course of their pursuing their UN-Christian
and loathsome agendas against the personal liberties of tens of
millions of girls, women, and gays.
But their LYING about Christianity doen't chanmge the fact
that ACTUAL Christianity is good. All it can do is CON lower-
intellect people into thinking that Christianity is bad. just as
the 20th-century tyrants unfairly and unscrupulously painted
atheism with that brush.
Most INTELLIGENT people see right through that, and place
the blame squarely where it BELONGS: on the shoulders of the
tyrants and the bigots, and NOT on the religious perspectives
that the tyrants and bigots erect as their straw men.
What society needs is for those who are being CONNED by
the lies of tyrants and bigots to become better EDUCATED, so
that they, too, can see through those deceptions.
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> (�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>> ["Sound of Stupidity" <soundof...@dcemail.com>] wrote:
>>> The fact that EVERY atheist regime was a bloody tyranny
>>> and EVERY member of the Ruling Central Committee was an
>>> atheist IS an indictment of atheism...
>> No. That is an indictment of the tyrants who ABUSED atheism,
>> and thus got it painted with a brush that it never deserved. As I
>> pointed out above. Most of today's atheists are some of the most
>> intelligent AND **fair** people on the planet.
> Yes, there are no atheist regimes which are exceptions,
> ALL were tyrannies. your analogy with *some*, ATYPICAL
> Christian sects fails.
Bullcrap. But IF that were true, it only means that tyrants had
CHOSEN to abuse atheism and let the downtrodden people blame
IT instead of THEM -- and they figured it would be easier to paint
atheism in a bad light. Since many people are *already* DUMB
enough not to realize that atheism is FULLY as respectable as
any of the other religions.
>> That is an indictment of the tyrants who ABUSED atheism, ...
See above.
> All atheist leaders have abused their POPULATIONS, not atheism.
And made it APPEAR that it was the atheism that was the
culprit if any blame were to be ascribed, rather then them. They
used atheism as a BUFFER.
> List the moral precepts of atheism which you claim
> Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot 'abused'...
No precepts necessary. They claimed their regimes were
atheism-based, and by doing that, if the people got riled up,
a healthy percentage of them would be stupid enough to think
atheism was to blame, rather than the leaders.
[ ... ]
> As usual the atheist cannot refute any of the facts about atheist
> regimes!
Since I'm a Christian, and my father was a minister, I wouldn't
know about any conversations you've had with atheists. (As LITTLE
as you seem to know about atheism, I doubt if you've talked with
ANY atheists. If you had, you might have LEARNED some things
from them. (My best friend over the last 30 years is an atheist, and
HE would be laughing his ass off at you.)
[ ... ]
>>>> A good example of this can be seen TODAY in the hateful
>>>> and antisocial agendas of the RRR and LDS Cults. They *claim*
>>>> to be Christian, in the course of their pursuing their UN-Christian
>>>> and loathsome agendas against the personal liberties of tens of
>>>> millions of girls, women, and gays.
>>>>
>>>> But their LYING about Christianity doesn't change the fact
>>>> that ACTUAL Christianity is good. All it can do is CON lower-
>>>> intellect people into thinking that Christianity is bad. just as
>>>> the 20th-century tyrants unfairly and unscrupulously painted
>>>> atheism with that brush.
>>>>
>>>> Most INTELLIGENT people see right through that, and place
>>>> the blame squarely where it BELONGS: on the shoulders of the
>>>> tyrants and the bigots, and NOT on the religious perspectives
>>>> that the tyrants and bigots erect as their straw men.
>>>>
>>>> What society needs is for those who are being CONNED by
>>>> the lies of tyrants and bigots to become better EDUCATED, so
>>>> that they, too, can see through those deceptions.
>>> A pathetic argument by false analogy.
>> Wrong. That was a statement of FACT, and the analogy
>> is very REAL.
> I already demolished that irrational argument .
You never came close, and you never will, because it is
an EXCELLENT analogy. And as such, is NOT irrational.
YOUR trying to blame atheism INSTEAD of the TYRANTS,
themselves, is what's irrational.
>>> There are many religious societies which are progressive,
>>> democratic, free ... in fact atheist hypocrites CHOOSE
>>> to live in them.
>>>
>>> Thus, religion is NOT the CAUSE of terror, torture and violence.
Including the religion of atheism. Those horrors are perpetrated
by the TYRANNIES, *not* the religion. NOTHING in atheism advocates
imposing terror, torture, and violence upon people. (If you knew
ANYTHING about atheists, you'd know THAT much!! GET OFF of bad-
mouthing atheism for NO good reason, and LYING about it, do you?)
You might have come close if you'd blame Satanism. But since
atheists see no reason to believe in supernatural entities, they don't
believe in Satan, either.
>> For any atheist to live in free countries is not hypocrisy.
>> It's common sense.
>
> Living in a majority religious society rather than an atheist
> shithole...
There you go, PROVING your ignorance again! There is NO
reason that an atheistic society headed by a BENEVOLENT gov-
ernment couldn't comprise a DELIGHTFUL country in which to
live.
> ...is common sense, but advocating atheism while you do it
> is hypocrisy!
I'm not "advocating* ANY religion. I'm DEFENDING people's
right to believe in ANY of them (including atheism), and for ALL
religions (NOT including any hate cults that may be found within
them) to command EQUAL respect from the peoples of the world.
>>> However .. EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian tyranny.
>>>
>>> The proof is conclusive.
>> And atheism can be regarded as a religion. One that believes
>> that there probably is NO God.
>>> If you can find a SINGLE atheist state, anytime in history,
>>> which was NOT a totalitarian tyranny.. record it here:
As I said in a previous post, the Czech Republic -- which is a
really NEAT and FREE country -- comes very close to that.
> You claim all atheists are religious...
ONLY to the extent that ALL people holding spiritual beliefs
are "religious." Muslims revere Mohammad. Christians revere
Jesus/God. Jews revere God. Atheists revere their right to
believe that which to them is the probability that there is NO
higher power than humanity, and that the spirit world does
not exist. And ALL of those people have a perfect right to
believe as they choose without being criticized and bad-
mouthed by ignorant and bigoted LOSERS.
> You are wasting our time...
ROTFL!!! With your ludicrous, hateful, narrow-minded,
and bigoted notions, YOU have been a total waste of time
right from the START.
So keep right on rolling around in your idiotic SWILL, and
I'll leave you to it. Your IGNORANCE isn't worth wasting any
more time on.
NOTHING you have said is an INDICTMENT of atheism.
You've merely pointed out that many people have chosen
to regard other religions to be attractive.
You have said NOTHING to indicate that there is **anything**
WRONG with atheism, per say, in ANY of your long diatribe.
And there ISN'T anything wrong with atheism. It isn't
atheism's fault that many tyrants have managed to paint it
with a brush it never deserved.
As for the USA -- HERE is the well-documented TRUTH
about what's been happening here in the USA, with regard to
religious beliefs:
http://www.Egalitarian.biz/USA-Chr-Non-Relig--1990-2008-2026Proj.html