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Larry Swain

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Aug 21, 2008, 11:47:28 AM8/21/08
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Anyone tried this yet?

SINNER

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Aug 21, 2008, 12:48:40 PM8/21/08
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* Larry Swain wrote in alt.beer:

> Anyone tried this yet?
>

I thought this group was about beer? Isn't bud off topic?

;)

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David

jim.ro...@comcast.net

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Aug 24, 2008, 2:42:27 AM8/24/08
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Never heard of it....
www.swigbrand.com
Roby

Jeff Louella

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Aug 24, 2008, 8:57:37 AM8/24/08
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On Aug 21, 11:47 am, Larry Swain <gi...@poetic.com> wrote:
> Anyone tried this yet?

I don't think it is out yet. It seems to be a Sierra Nevada style Pale
Ale that dry hops with Cascade. The commercial try's to educate their
consumers on craft beer by using terms like "Top Fermented" and "Dry
Hopped with American Cascade".

They also released a You Tube video about the new American Ale. I give
them credit, they are trying to educate their consumers, which in
return may convert them over to other craft style beers. In return,
maybe more places will offer a better selection of beer.

Here is that You Tube Video: http://twurl.nl/qylmx5

Jeff Louella
Internet Specialist, Home Brewer

Find me here:
http://www.jefflouella.com
http://basementbrewing.blogspot.com
http://www.ALEiens.com

Dick Adams

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Aug 24, 2008, 4:20:12 PM8/24/08
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Jeff Louella <jeffl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Larry Swain <gi...@poetic.com> wrote:

>> Anyone tried this yet?

> I don't think it is out yet. It seems to be a Sierra Nevada
> style Pale Ale that dry hops with Cascade. The commercial
> try's to educate their consumers on craft beer by using
> terms like "Top Fermented" and "Dry Hopped with American
> Cascade".

Napolean taught us not to invade Russia. "New Coke" taught
us not upgrade flavoring of a successful product. Since we
know the German invasion of Russia led to the fall of the
Third Reich, this is a big-time market risk for the new
owners of Bud.

What self-respecting ale drinker would want to be seen
drinking a Bud product. Maybe it will be a price market
where Bud Ale sells for $1.50 a pint on tap. I might
have one - but not in the presence of people I know.

As an investment, buy a six pack of bottles and save it.
It could be the next "Billy Beer".

Dick

Peter Lawrence

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Sep 4, 2008, 7:00:57 PM9/4/08
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Dick Adams wrote:

> Jeff Louella <jeffl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What self-respecting ale drinker would want to be seen
> drinking a Bud product. Maybe it will be a price market
> where Bud Ale sells for $1.50 a pint on tap. I might
> have one - but not in the presence of people I know.

What self-respecting ale drinker would care what's on the label if the
ale tasted good?

Of course wannabe "status seeking" beer snobs would care, but who cares
about them?

> As an investment, buy a six pack of bottles and save it.
> It could be the next "Billy Beer".

You might then want to save a six-pack of Budweiser Select for
posterity. Anheuser-Busch seems to be phasing it out.

- Peter

Bill Becker

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Sep 4, 2008, 7:12:20 PM9/4/08
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"Larry Swain" <gi...@poetic.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone tried this yet?

I had one the other day. It's not in my market yet but my retailer friend
gave me a bottle to sample. ;^)

It's pretty good. It has some caramel malt sweetness, a touch of roasted
malt, and light hop bitterness that grows as the session went on. Think of
it as a New Belgium Fat Tire without the biscuit and with some hop
bitterness. ;^)


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Dick Adams

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Sep 5, 2008, 9:27:47 AM9/5/08
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Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:

> Of course wannabe "status seeking" beer snobs would care,
> but who cares about them?

It's condescending afficiandos to you, Bubba.

There are several quite good American Pale Ales
on the market. e.g., Stone, Sierra Nevada, Full Sail,
Beer Republic, Great Lakes, Three Floyds, etc.
Given the new owners of Saint Louis Swill have a
history of breeing quality beers.

On the morning of 5 September 2008, BeerAdvocate.com
has 23 reviews with an average of B- - A real high
for a Bud product.

Dick

John S.

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Sep 5, 2008, 10:16:17 AM9/5/08
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On Sep 4, 7:00 pm, Peter Lawrence <hummb...@aol.com> wrote:
> Dick Adams wrote:

What I find interesting about "Dick Adams" is that he usually has a
strong opinion about a beer that he has never tasted. It's best to
ignore most of his stuff. Bill Becker on the other hand has
apparently tasted the Bud Ale and gives it a fairly positive review.
I keep looking for it to appear locally.

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Frog King

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Sep 5, 2008, 11:11:07 AM9/5/08
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Larry Swain

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Sep 5, 2008, 11:47:28 AM9/5/08
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Bill Becker wrote:
> "Larry Swain" <gi...@poetic.com> wrote in message
> news:2_adneqw-dqTEzDV...@comcast.com...
>
>>Anyone tried this yet?
>
>
> I had one the other day. It's not in my market yet but my retailer friend
> gave me a bottle to sample. ;^)
>
> It's pretty good. It has some caramel malt sweetness, a touch of roasted
> malt, and light hop bitterness that grows as the session went on. Think of
> it as a New Belgium Fat Tire without the biscuit and with some hop
> bitterness. ;^)
>

Thanks Bill.

John S.

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Sep 5, 2008, 4:53:20 PM9/5/08
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On Sep 5, 10:37 am, plutc...@see.headers (Joel) wrote:

> John S. <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
> >What I find interesting about "Dick Adams" is that he usually has a
> >strong opinion about a beer that he has never tasted.  It's best to
> >ignore most of his stuff.
>
>    What I find about "John S." is that he usually has strong opinions
> about people he has never met, and is a self-apointed Defender of The
> Common Man (ignoring for a moment that the Common Man neither needs
> nor wants defending, and that it's condescending to assume The Common
> Man needs defending in the first place).
>
>    I've had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Adams. He's an interesting
> guy with a lifetime of experience to back up his opinions, and he's
> never shy about expressing himself.  I don't agree with all his
> opinions, but would never be so impolite as to try to trivialize
> those opinions. Only the terminally insecure would do so.
> --
>
> Joel Plutchak                "Beer doesn't stain, if it's a light pilsner."
> $LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com      - Sheldon Miller

Needless to say he shows the depth of his knowlege about beer in
general and Bud Ale in particular with statements like this: "What


self-respecting ale drinker would want to be seen drinking a Bud

product". It is a fine example of the narrowminded mentality of the
beer snobs on this forum.

Bill Becker

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Sep 7, 2008, 11:10:48 AM9/7/08
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"Larry Swain" <gi...@poetic.com> wrote in message
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No problem. ;^)

I also got a sample bottle of Michelob DunklelWeisse and it's another solid
addition to their line. Here are my notes about it:

Pours a hazy to cloudy rust brown colour with a solid 1 finger head of
billowy foam.

The smell is nice with notes of clove, banana, some fruit, and some vanilla.

The taste has the clove & banana up front followed by light vanilla, and a
slightly tart fruitiness that cuts through some of the spice nicely. A
pretty good drinker that isn't overly complex but there are enough different
flavours here to keep me interested.

It has a good medium mouthfeel and the carbonation just crawls into medium
territory but not by much. A nice drop here and head retention is very good
with some decent lacing.

Bottom line: I think this is a pretty good example of a Dunkelweizen and I
could easily drink this again. Well done A-B.

Dick Adams

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Sep 7, 2008, 10:47:56 PM9/7/08
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John S. <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:

> Needless to say he shows the depth of his knowlege
> about beer in general and Bud Ale in particular
> with statements like this: "What self-respecting
> ale drinker would want to be seen drinking a Bud
> product". It is a fine example of the narrowminded
> mentality of the beer snobs on this forum.

Some people have no appreciation for hyperbole! <g>

BTW: I am NOT a beer snob - but rather a
condescending afficiando. ;)

Dick

Steve Jackson

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Sep 8, 2008, 12:20:04 AM9/8/08
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On Sep 5, 8:11 am, laf...@webtv.net (Frog King) wrote:

> The real question is..why would anyone try a Bud ale when there are so
> many better ones.

Why try any new beer? There are already beers I like out there.

Also, if you're not going to bother to try it, how can you know that
there are better beers out there?

I'll try it at some point out of curiosity, and I'll judge it based on
the contents of the package, not the label. I couldn't care less who a
beer comes from; if it's good and enjoyable, I'm going to enjoy it. If
it's weak and uninteresting, I won't. Pretty simple.

> ....Bud is not interested in good beer just the bottom
> line....

Whereas craft brewers are in business out of charity.

Find me any brewer who isn't concerned with the bottom line and I'll
show you one who's either got an unlimited trust fund to bankroll
things with or who's going out of business very soon.

I don't fault anyone for making money. If they make a product I don't
like, they won't get my money. Their choice, and mine. If they can
sell it to enough other people who don't agree with me, good for them.
As long as I've got other people who are giving me what I want, what
some other company does is irrelevant.

Joel

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Sep 8, 2008, 10:02:14 AM9/8/08
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Steve Jackson <stvja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'll try it at some point out of curiosity, and I'll judge it based on
>the contents of the package, not the label.

Me, too.

>I couldn't care less who a beer comes from...

I'm not quite with you there. What a company stands for,
and the things they may do to stay in business and/or squelch
competition certainly will impact how I feel about that company
and whether I want to support them by buying their product,
regardless of how good it is.

Steve Jackson

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Sep 8, 2008, 10:51:04 PM9/8/08
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On Sep 8, 7:02 am, plutc...@see.headers (Joel) wrote:

>    I'm not quite with you there. What a company stands for,
> and the things they may do to stay in business and/or squelch
> competition certainly will impact how I feel about that company
> and whether I want to support them by buying their product,
> regardless of how good it is.

I get that, and I certainly have my lines. I refuse to shop at
Walmart, for example, for multiple reasons, one of which is how I feel
about how they conduct business.

But I guess I don't get worked up enough by A-B to decide not to
patronize them were they to come out with a product I felt worth
buying. Yeah, they do some things I don't like. I can't think of many
companies I buy from who don't do some things I don't like.

yod-yog+ais

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Sep 9, 2008, 12:35:57 AM9/9/08
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On 9/8/2008 7:51 PM Steve Jackson ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

> But I guess I don't get worked up enough by A-B to decide not to
> patronize them were they to come out with a product I felt worth
> buying. Yeah, they do some things I don't like. I can't think of many
> companies I buy from who don't do some things I don't like.

Whatever A-B has done of late hasn't amounted to enough to keep them
from getting swallowed up by an even more aggressive (and bigger)
entity. It turned out they couldn't be top dog forever.

The whole "100% Share of Mind" thing has pretty much gone by the
wayside, too. The notion that the distributor network should
concentrate only on A-B's line has pretty much been turned on its
head in the wake of decreasing profitability and slow growth, and
even A-B itself admitted that when it got in bed with InBev in the
first place.

I'm not going to make much of an effort to search out the new line
of A-B specialty beers, simply because I'm surrounded by far too
many excellent alternatives to make the effort worthwhile. I'm
more prone to support local brewers who I know and like, than give
money to a global American-Belgian-Brazilian beer-making combine,
and that holds true even for beers I like from other places.

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