In article <1992Jan24.204552.18...@nddsun1.sps.mot.com> carl...@animal.Inria.Fr
(Brett Carlson) writes: >A couple of awful beers that I don't think have been mentioned yet:
> ... > --Rainier, from Washington. I do kinda miss the commercials > that they used to have with the frogs croaking out > the word "rainier", tho....
I *still* strongly disagree !!! (except about the commercials.) The reason Rainier hasn't been mention in this discussion thread is because it's a Very Good Mass-Produced Beer. (I'd go on and on about this, but as you all know, we had the Rainier discussion in this group a couple of months ago...)
>I *still* strongly disagree !!! (except about the commercials.) The reason >Rainier hasn't been mention in this discussion thread is because it's a Very >Good Mass-Produced Beer. (I'd go on and on about this, but as you all >know, we had the Rainier discussion in this group a couple of >months ago...) >Nice try , Brett! :-)
I must confess that I was not aware that it is still being brewed, since I no longer live in the great Northwest but have moved to Arizona...
But I stand by my original posting. As of the last time I had Rainer, it still tasted like pond water. But the commercials, featuring the frogs, motorcycles, etc. will live in infamy.
In article <1992Jan31.204037.5...@techbook.com> gummi...@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes: >Tim Dudley writes: >>In article <1992Jan24.204552.18...@nddsun1.sps.mot.com> carl...@animal.Inria.Fr >>(Brett Carlson) writes: >>>A couple of awful beers that I don't think have been mentioned yet:
>>> ... >>> --Rainier, from Washington. I do kinda miss the commercials >>> that they used to have with the frogs croaking out >>> the word "rainier", tho....
>>I *still* strongly disagree !!! (except about the commercials.) The reason >>Rainier hasn't been mention in this discussion thread is because it's a Very >>Good Mass-Produced Beer. (I'd go on and on about this, but as you all >> know, we had the Rainier discussion in this group a couple of >>months ago...) >Gosh, I'm sorry I missed that discussion. Rainier is so bad it almost >makes Olympia look drinkable. Almost. No, I take that back. Neither one >of them is drinkable, but still... The Rainier commercials were the >*only* good thing about the stuff. Of course, there's Green Death: >Rainier Ale. Several years ago, I was in Produce Row (in Portland, maybe >300 beers in bottles and a dozen on draught) and overheard two guys >complaining that RA wasn't on draught. "We used to get it in here, we >loved it!" Response from bartender: "Oh, you're the guys!" >--Jeff Frane >>Nice try , Brett! :-) >>Tim
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Out here in the midwest, Green Death refers to Special Export. As for Rainier, I recall a witty little description that went something like, "Rainier Beer comes from here," and the person speaking it points to his crotch.
Tim Dudley writes: >In article <1992Jan24.204552.18...@nddsun1.sps.mot.com> carl...@animal.Inria.Fr >(Brett Carlson) writes: >>A couple of awful beers that I don't think have been mentioned yet:
>> ... >> --Rainier, from Washington. I do kinda miss the commercials >> that they used to have with the frogs croaking out >> the word "rainier", tho....
>I *still* strongly disagree !!! (except about the commercials.) The reason >Rainier hasn't been mention in this discussion thread is because it's a Very >Good Mass-Produced Beer. (I'd go on and on about this, but as you all > know, we had the Rainier discussion in this group a couple of >months ago...)
Gosh, I'm sorry I missed that discussion. Rainier is so bad it almost makes Olympia look drinkable. Almost. No, I take that back. Neither one of them is drinkable, but still... The Rainier commercials were the *only* good thing about the stuff. Of course, there's Green Death: Rainier Ale. Several years ago, I was in Produce Row (in Portland, maybe 300 beers in bottles and a dozen on draught) and overheard two guys complaining that RA wasn't on draught. "We used to get it in here, we loved it!" Response from bartender: "Oh, you're the guys!"
--Jeff Frane
>Nice try , Brett! :-) >Tim
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In article <1992Jan31.204037.5...@techbook.com> gummi...@techbook.com (Jeff
Frane) writes: >... Of course, there's Green Death: >Rainier Ale. Several years ago, I was in Produce Row (in Portland, maybe >300 beers in bottles and a dozen on draught) and overheard two guys >complaining that RA wasn't on draught. "We used to get it in here, we >loved it!" Response from bartender: "Oh, you're the guys!"
Well, I hate to beat a dead horse (which is where I understand they get Olympia from - that's why there's a horseshoe on the label. It's a picture of the factory. But I digress...), but Rainier Ale is also one of the best Mass Produced Dark Ales you can get in the US. But you gotta get it before it goes skunky (and just to divert a bunch of hate mail, yes, you CAN tell the difference!! :-) )
Tim
(And for you who don't believe the horse story, why do you think Olympia has "Tummywater" on the labels?)
In article <1992Feb3.155124.2...@bigsur.uucp> Tim Dudley writes:
>Well, I hate to beat a dead horse (which is where I understand they get >Olympia from - that's why there's a horseshoe on the label. It's a >picture of the factory. But I digress...), but Rainier Ale is also one of the >best Mass Produced Dark Ales you can get in the US. But you gotta get it >before it goes skunky (and just to divert a bunch of hate mail, yes, you CAN >tell the difference!! :-) )
>Tim
Well, at risk of incurring the wrath of some people I know who read this group... I always was partial to Rainier Ale as a "Supermarket Beer". That is, something you pick up when you only got a few bucks on you (just made your car or computer payment) and want something with a hint of flavor. It's gotten a bad rap for two quasi-well-deserved reasons - 1) It comes is a green bottle 2) It's not an ale and a third one, *usually* irrelevant us to natives- 3) Heileman, who once owned Rainier, also brewed it at the National brewery in (forget the city), Arizona, and that product tasted rather like Henry Weinhard's "Ale". I know because in the early 80's, our local Rainier distributor (Cammarano Brothers) "accidentally" brought up a trainload of "Arizona Ale" in lieu of Mickey's, and it took 6-8 months for it to work its way out of the distribution system. ---Less than 40 miles from the Rainier brewery! I got this info from the brewmaster at Rainier, whom I called to complain to about the situation. The people at Rainier are still very accessible and quite decent folk, like most northwest brewers.
But to tie all this together... You can do a lot worse than Rainier Ale when you only have ~$4.00 for your sixpack (lets see... Budweiser, Miller, Coors, anything Mexican, anything sold in the US as Canadian, anything with more than one city on the label, anything that advertises on television, anything marketed to an Inner-City Target Group, Schiltz, Blitz and/or Weinhard's, Killian's, any beer that your parents drank when they were your age...) Who DARES dispute this?!? :-)
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d...@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman) writes: >But to tie all this together... You can do a lot worse than Rainier >Ale when you only have ~$4.00 for your sixpack (lets see... Budweiser, >Miller, Coors, anything Mexican, anything sold in the US as Canadian,
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
>anything with more than one city on the label, anything that advertises >on television, anything marketed to an Inner-City Target Group, Schiltz, >Blitz and/or Weinhard's, Killian's, any beer that your parents drank
^^^^^^^^^^
>when they were your age...) Who DARES dispute this?!? :-)
Well, personally.... If I only had $4 for a six-pack, I'd buy three bottles of Full Sail Amber, Sam Adams, or Bridgeport Blue Heron. And anyone who thinks Rainier horsewinkey is better than Negro Modelo, Dos Equis or Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve needs to take his tastebuds in for retread!!!!!!!
Better yet, make your own!
--Jeff Frane
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In article <1992Feb10.191703.17...@techbook.com> gummi...@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes: >d...@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman) writes: >>But to tie all this together... You can do a lot worse than Rainier >>Ale when you only have ~$4.00 for your sixpack (lets see... Budweiser, >>Miller, Coors, anything Mexican, anything sold in the US as Canadian, > ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ >>anything with more than one city on the label, anything that advertises >>on television, anything marketed to an Inner-City Target Group, Schiltz, >>Blitz and/or Weinhard's, Killian's, any beer that your parents drank > ^^^^^^^^^^ >>when they were your age...) Who DARES dispute this?!? :-) >Well, personally.... If I only had $4 for a six-pack, I'd buy three >bottles of Full Sail Amber, Sam Adams, or Bridgeport Blue Heron. And >anyone who thinks Rainier horsewinkey is better than Negro Modelo, Dos >Equis or Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve needs to take his tastebuds >in for retread!!!!!!! >Better yet, make your own! >--Jeff Frane >-- >gummi...@techbook.COM ...!{tektronix!nosun,uunet}techbook!gummitch >Public Access UNIX at (503) 644-8135 (1200/2400) Voice: +1 503 646-8257 >"Any fool can tell the truth, but it requires a man of some sense to >know how to lie well." --Samuel Butler
I, too, wondered how the original post-er could LIKE Rainer and bash Henry's. I'm not exactly a fan of HW's, but it's certainly respectable cheap swill, especially compared to Rainer. And I have had the chance to try Full Sail and Blue Heron (and many others from WA and BC) during my trips to the P-NW and found them quite satisfying brews. RPAOLINO.polisci.pol.umn.edu Bob Paolino "Help, I've fallen and I University of Minnesota can't reach my beer!" Department of Political Science
"The laws of gravity Are very, very strict And you're just bending them For your own benefit"
In article <rpaolino...@polisci.pol.umn.edu> rpaol...@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino) writes:
>I, too, wondered how the original post-er could LIKE Rainer and bash >Henry's. I'm not exactly a fan of HW's, but it's certainly respectable >cheap swill, especially compared to Rainer. And I have had the chance to >try Full Sail and Blue Heron (and many others from WA and BC) during my >trips to the P-NW and found them quite satisfying brews.
Well, now that you mention it... From my high school days up until the time that Henry's gained a national cachet from advertising, the name Weinhard meant only one thing - Ocean Jag. The cheapest beer available in the greater Aberdeen/Hoquiam/Ocean Shores/Grays Harbor area was Blitz Weinhard approx $5.00 a case, as I recall. Anyone who grew up in the Ruralpolitan Puget Sound area has in their distant memory the adolescent ritual of driving to The Ocean and party'ing with many cases of Blitz, and regretting same the morning after. The whole notion of Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve (when it first was announced) was greeted with the same warm feelings you would get from the announcement of: 1) Rheinlander Private Reserve 2) Buckhorn Private Reserve 3) Columbia Private Reserve 4) Regal Select Private Reserve 5) Brown Derby Private Reserve (the list goes on...) Of course, as we all know, one of the stellar feats of marketing obtained - Blitz is almost universally forgotten, and Weinhard is a respected name across most of the country. It's not at all a bad beer, to be sure. I must confess that my provincialism was getting the better of me in that post. Nonetheless, as I sit here typing this article, trusty bottle of Rainier Ale to hand, I
Uh, what was I saying? :-)
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>>I, too, wondered how the original post-er could LIKE Rainer and bash >>Henry's...
Ha! I'm the original post-er, and it's easy: Rainier tastes Good, Henry's tastes mediocre (if you can taste it at all...)! And Rainier Ale "...goes glunk! glunk! down your throat."
>Of course, as we all know, one of the stellar feats of marketing >obtained - Blitz is almost universally forgotten, and Weinhard >is a respected name across most of the country. It's not at all a >bad beer, to be sure. I must confess that my provincialism was >getting the better of me in that post. Nonetheless, as I sit here >typing this article, trusty bottle of Rainier Ale to hand, I
>Uh, what was I saying? :-)
Now, there's some light on the subject.
I suspect that my fondness for Rainier has something to do with nostalgia and loyalty - Rainier kept me relatively sane during my college days in Montana (when you had to drive to Idaho to get Coors, which people actually did - never understood that. But I digress...). There's something really good about getting home, going to Albertson's and buying a couple of sixes of Rainier Pounders (named for the 16 oz. bottles, not the headache...), then heading up into the mountains and sitting on a stump, and enjoying some of them. And remember that, in Montana, drinking beer doesn't count as drinking.
Back to my college days - the alternatives to Rainier were Lucky Lager, Olympia, Hamms (the beer refreshing), and the old traditionals - Schmidt, Buckhorn, and something else from Butte (that I mercifully can't remember the name of), etc... Given those choices, I'd have drunk Rainier even if I *hadn't* liked it.
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