Dr. Proctor--Proxyphen-n
D. Andrew
Dear Dr. Proctor
I was wondering, in addition to my other treatments, could I mix some
proxyphen-n with some 2% minox-retin a, and get results? I currently use
both proxyphen and nano.
Thanks,
Dean
Bryan Shelton
D. Andrew <jpi...@wavenet.com> wrote:
: Dear Dr. Proctor
: I was wondering, in addition to my other treatments, could I mix some
: proxyphen-n with some 2% minox-retin a, and get results? I currently use
: both proxyphen and nano.
Why exactly do you feel a need to physically mix them up? It's not at all
necessary. For instance, my current regime is: NANO shampoo followed by
Proxiphen in the morning; when I get home from work in the late afternoon
or early evening I apply Dr. P.'s 7.5% minoxidil to my baldspot along with
ordinary 2% to the rest of my scalp; and then near bed-time I'l apply
Proxiphen-N. Spreading things out like this is more effective, I believe,
although it's also a bit more bother.
Bryan
Toronto Resident
How is the Proxiphen working? How is the Nano working?
Peter H. Proctor
In article <jpinst-2311...@max5-53.wavenet.com> jpi...@wavenet.com (D. Andrew) writes:
>From: jpi...@wavenet.com (D. Andrew)
>Subject: Dr. Proctor--Proxyphen-n
>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:48:14 -0800
>Dear Dr. Proctor
> I was wondering, in addition to my other treatments, could I mix some
>proxyphen-n with some 2% minox-retin a, and get results? I currently use
>both proxyphen and nano.
This is probably OK. In the past, I have been a little reluctant
to recommend mixing the two because Prox-N contains penetration enhancers that
might make you absorb too much minoxidil.
OTOH, I have not heard of any problems with this and lots of people do
it. Also, higher concentrations of minoxidil ( 5-7% ) don't seem to cause
problems and neither does application to water-soaked skin ( which really
enhances penetration ). Just stop if you start getting a racing heart beat (
which I haven't seen ).
Peter H. Proctor, PhD, MD
http://www.neosoft.com/~pproctor
Lots of stuff on the science behind hair loss treatment
>Thanks,
>Dean
Bryan Shelton
Toronto Resident <yu13...@yorku.ca> wrote:: > : Dear Dr. Proctor
: > : I was wondering, in addition to my other treatments, could I mix some
: > : proxyphen-n with some 2% minox-retin a, and get results? I currently use
: > : both proxyphen and nano.
: > Why exactly do you feel a need to physically mix them up? It's not at all
: > necessary. For instance, my current regime is: NANO shampoo followed by
: > Proxiphen in the morning; when I get home from work in the late afternoon
: > or early evening I apply Dr. P.'s 7.5% minoxidil to my baldspot along with
: > ordinary 2% to the rest of my scalp; and then near bed-time I'l apply
: > Proxiphen-N. Spreading things out like this is more effective, I believe,
: > although it's also a bit more bother.
: >
: > Bryan
: How is the Proxiphen working? How is the Nano working?
For a period of almost exactly two years I used nothing but Proxiphen-N
and occasionally NANO shampoo. In that time I experienced noticeable
regrowth in my baldspot and thicker hair all over. I hasten to add
that this is NOT just my subjective opinion, but something you can see
in the before-and-after photos that Dr. P. insisted on taking so that
I would know FOR SURE whether or not the treatment was working.
A few months ago I added prescription Proxiphen and cheap OTC minoxidil
(in addition to the samples of 7.5% minoxidil Dr. P. gave me) to my
regimen after I saw how I was responding to the Prox-N. It's still
a little early to see if I'm getting further benefits from the
Proxiphen and minoxidil. I'll let you know how that goes!
I highly recommend to all you guys out there that you NOT put all
your eggs in the minoxidil/finasteride basket. With these two agents
you're covering only two out of the three possible approaches
to hair-loss treatment and ignoring the third; namely, topical SODases.
Like it or not, Dr. P. pretty much has cornered the market in this
realm and you're going to have to use his products to have a COMPLETE
program. Doesn't this make sense? Do you REALLY want to use only
one or two substances that encourage hair growth? Wouldn't you want
to have a synergistic mixture, a "kitchen sink" approach that throws
virtually everything at the problem at once? I know I do. And I've
gotten results with Prox-N, which doesn't contain a single molecule
of either minoxidil or finasteride. Think about it.
Bryan
Toronto Resident
Do I have to buy the Proxiphen N or will Nano be enough
Rich
What is curious is that apparently you can get proxn and nano cheaper from life
extension systems than by ordering from dr. p. directly. They are at
http://www.lef.org/. I don't get it, but that is where I will get them from now on.
Rich
pja
I thought Dr. Proctor had a patent on this stuff.
Toronto Resident
Is the Nano shampoo and the proxiphen-N identical. Have you bought from
both sources? Do they have the same ingredients. That site seems to be
missing the conditioner.
br...@phoenix.net
In article <3480FE...@yorku.ca>,> > Toronto Resident <yu13...@yorku.ca> wrote:
<<snip>>
> > : How is the Proxiphen working? How is the Nano working?
> > I highly recommend to all you guys out there that you NOT put all
> > your eggs in the minoxidil/finasteride basket. With these two agents
> > you're covering only two out of the three possible approaches
> > to hair-loss treatment and ignoring the third; namely, topical SODases.
> > Like it or not, Dr. P. pretty much has cornered the market in this
> > realm and you're going to have to use his products to have a COMPLETE
> > program. Doesn't this make sense? Do you REALLY want to use only
> > one or two substances that encourage hair growth? Wouldn't you want
> > to have a synergistic mixture, a "kitchen sink" approach that throws
> > virtually everything at the problem at once? I know I do. And I've
> > gotten results with Prox-N, which doesn't contain a single molecule
> > of either minoxidil or finasteride. Think about it.
> >
> > Bryan
>
> Do I have to buy the Proxiphen N or will Nano be enough
Ummm... I wouldn't rely just on NANO shampoo for any serious SODase
activity. True, it does contain one SODase but from what Dr. P. has
posted in the past it seems like this ingredient was added as sort
of an afterthought, something to give a little extra punch to the
NANO without a lot of extra expense.
I really do recommend Proxiphen-N as a serious synergist for the
minoxidil and Proscar that you're probably already using. In fact,
from what I understand the Prox-N that Dr. P. is making now is more
potent than the version that I used during that two-year period when
I experienced slow but steady re-growth. He posted the latest list
of ingredients for Prox-N two or three months ago and I was struck
by one of the new ones: one of those copper-binding peptides we've
heard so much about! This was definitely NOT in the older version
I had used for two years!
Prox-N is not all that expensive, especially when you buy the large
size. It's certainly cheaper than regular prescription Proxiphen.
And (IMHO) it may not be all THAT far from Proxiphen in performance!
Once again, I think Prox-N and NANO shampoo are both excellent
supplements to minoxidil and Proscar. No, scratch that. It should
be the other way around! Minoxidil and Proscar are both good
supplements to Proxiphen-N and NANO shampoo!
Bryan
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Peter H. Proctor
In article <34832F...@yorku.ca> Toronto Resident <yu13...@yorku.ca> writes:
>From: Toronto Resident <yu13...@yorku.ca>
>Subject: Re: Dr. Proctor--Proxyphen-n
>Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 12:42:54 -0900
>Is the Nano shampoo and the proxiphen-N identical. Have you bought from
>both sources? Do they have the same ingredients. That site seems to be
>missing the conditioner.
They are pretty close, with a few compromises to bring the cost down and
are a good option if you wish to use something a little less expensive than
what we offer.
Dr. Proctor.