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SOME gUY

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Aug 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/18/99
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I just think I wasted my money. I ask this guy for an answer on a
product HE endorses from the LIfe Extension and look at what he
answers...
Dr. I have wasted this money (hopefully not...) on your products. I will
post my results. Better pray they are favorable because every one will
hear them. I will take pictures, keep a diary etc.
Judging from your answers I think you are a fraud. "Depends" does not
cut it when you spend $500.00 on a "lite" version.
Asshole.


KaneeshiWa

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Aug 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/18/99
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You need to calm down little man. Dr. Proctor has extensive knowledge about
hair loss and is respected highly by most people in this NG. Take your vitriol
elsewhere.

>Subject: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud
>From: SOME gUY N...@AOLL.COM
>Date: Wed, 18 August 1999 04:19 PM EDT
>Message-id: <37BB154A...@AOLL.COM>

Jojosh

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Aug 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/18/99
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Asshole.

Keep it cool man


len

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Aug 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/18/99
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Seriously, how much of this did you actually order?

I have been ordering from LEF for 7 years.  They carry two (2) of Dr. Ps products.
One, the Shampoo is 24.95 (non-member cost), the other is the hair re-growth
formula costing 39.95 (non-member cost).  This adds up to around 75.00.

Len

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Gfnetman

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Again...Dr. Proctor....Post your resume.

We would love to read about your credentials as the "authority" on this NG.

What happened in Texas?

KaneeshiWa

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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GfNetMan,

I want to know where you get off with this inquisition. Are you bitter or
what?

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud
>From: gfne...@aol.com (Gfnetman)
>Date: Wed, 18 August 1999 08:36 PM EDT
>Message-id: <19990818203630...@ng-fl1.aol.com>

Honkee00

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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>>Again...Dr. Proctor....Post your resume.
>>
>>We would love to read about your credentials as the "authority" on this NG.

again, do your homework. it doesn't take a whole helluva lot of effort to hit
his web site and look at his credentials yourself. -mitch

Al B. Core

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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YAAAAWWWN Another troll.


SA
***Knock softly but firmly***
***I like soft but firm knockers***

Slickwell

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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it would be nice if he had PROOF his products worked. dont you think?

KaneeshiWa

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Look Slickwall, if you don't want to use his products, don't use them. Quit
your complaining.

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud

>From: slic...@aol.com (Slickwell)
>Date: Thu, 19 August 1999 05:31 AM EDT
>Message-id: <19990819053134...@ng-ff1.aol.com>

Lee

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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That's right, Mitch. And Dr P, or anyone else, shouldn't post his
resume on a ng anyway, because if he does, his text may end up being
copied and modified to suit some Prankster's tricks!

Lee


jtd

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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I hardly think asking for proof is the same as complaining.
What differentiates Proctor's products from Lewenberg's? Give me a valid
answer other than marketing ;)

KaneeshiWa <kanee...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Peter H. Proctor

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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In article <19990818203630...@ng-fl1.aol.com> gfne...@aol.com (Gfnetman) writes:
>From: gfne...@aol.com (Gfnetman)

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud
>Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:36:30 GMT

>Again...Dr. Proctor....Post your resume.

>We would love to read about your credentials as the "authority" on this NG.

Do your own search. You obviously don't know how or you would not be
asking, So, I will tell you.

1) Go to Pubmed ( http://www4.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ ) and do a
search against my name for some of my publications.

2) Go to the US Patent Office Boolean Search site at:

http://patents.uspto.gov/access/search-bool.html

Do a search on all years using my name and "hair loss" "alopecia",
etc. as keywords.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD, MD
http://www.drproctor.com


KaneeshiWa

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Again, if you don't like his products or him personally don't buy or use his
products. Simple solution to the mountain you are making out of a molehill.
Dr. Proctor does not have to prove anything to a worm such as yourself. Grow
up little one.

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud

>From: "jtd" jt...@deleteme-bellsouth.net
>Date: Thu, 19 August 1999 03:32 PM EDT
>Message-id: <2_Yu3.2847$rd6....@news4.mia>


>
>I hardly think asking for proof is the same as complaining.
>What differentiates Proctor's products from Lewenberg's? Give me a valid
>answer other than marketing ;)
>
>KaneeshiWa <kanee...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:19990819081539...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
>> Look Slickwall, if you don't want to use his products, don't use them.
>Quit
>> your complaining.
>>

>> >Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud

John Ertel

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Geez it's a little bit of an overreaction to call someone who politely asks
for proof that a product works a worm. Looks like you might need to do a
little bit of growing up yourself if you have to put someone else down who
only asks for scientific evidence that a product works.

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KaneeshiWa

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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That is your opinion John. We all know everyone has one. Duly noted. I will
not justify my vehement defense of Dr. Proctor to you. It is not worth my
time.

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud

>From: "John Ertel" regr...@regrowth.com
>Date: Thu, 19 August 1999 04:32 PM EDT
>Message-id: <sMMteIo6#GA....@hawkeye.i3s.net>

KaneeshiWa

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Amen.

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud

>From: "Jojosh" joj...@cybercable.fr
>Date: Thu, 19 August 1999 06:29 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7pi0nq$5re$1...@oceanite.cybercable.fr>
>
>
>John Ertel a ecrit dans le message ...


>Geez it's a little bit of an overreaction to call someone who politely asks
>for proof that a product works a worm. Looks like you might need to do a
>little bit of growing up yourself if you have to put someone else down who
>only asks for scientific evidence that a product works.
>

>Sorry John. But Xandrox 12.5% as far as I know doesn't have "scientific
>evidence" too. However we can see banner for X12.5% on your site. It is just
>a question of TRUST( you trust Dr Lee and you put a banner. Beside money
>aspect of course) and knowledge we have in the hairloss treatments.
>Obviously MSG like " post resume" "post scientific results" is a fuckin
>trolling and I hate it. Finasteride DO HAVE scientific results: so fuckin
>what?? It destroyed my hairline so quick you know...So this not an
>"overreaction", this is a reaction to a troll. Wich I approve.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Will Brink

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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In article <37BB154A...@AOLL.COM>, SOME gUY <N...@AOLL.COM> wrote:

> I just think I wasted my money.


You think? Does not seem like you think. Seems more like another coward
troll hiding posting with no name.

> I ask this guy for an answer on a
> product HE endorses from the LIfe Extension and look at what he
> answers...

Oh, poor baby, didnt get the naswer he wanted so now he must be a turd.

> Dr. I have wasted this money (hopefully not...) on your products. I will
> post my results. Better pray they are favorable because every one will
> hear them.

Who gives a fuck what your results are? You dont even have the balls to
sign your name and be counted.

>I will take pictures, keep a diary etc.
> Judging from your answers I think you are a fraud. "Depends" does not
> cut it when you spend $500.00 on a "lite" version.
> Asshole.

Yo mama loser.

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Will Brink
http://www.brinkzone.com/

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." - George Carlin


Will Brink

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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In article <19990819053134...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
slic...@aol.com (Slickwell) wrote:

> it would be nice if he had PROOF his products worked. dont you think?

Ok Steve.

Will Brink

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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In article <19990818203630...@ng-fl1.aol.com>,
gfne...@aol.com (Gfnetman) wrote:

> Again...Dr. Proctor....Post your resume.

Post yours you fuck.

>
> We would love to read about your credentials as the "authority" on this NG.

Love to see you stand up like a man and put your real name and address to
your posts as he does. If you dont have the balls to put your name to
something when you make such statements, then your opinion is moot and you
are a simple troll.

>
> What happened in Texas?

Jojosh

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Slickwell

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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>Ok Steve.

sorry you got the wrong guy. 20 years old norwood 2 ,,....do a search on deja
news and you'll see my statistics are consistant since I;ve been posting here

mike

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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D...@god.md (Peter H. Proctor) wrote:
>In article <19990818203630...@ng-fl1.aol.com> gfne...@aol.com (Gfnetman) writes:
>>From: gfne...@aol.com (Gfnetman)
>>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud
>>Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:36:30 GMT
>
>>Again...Dr. Proctor....Post your resume.
>
>>We would love to read about your credentials as the "authority" on this NG.
>
> Do your own search. You obviously don't know how or you would not be
>asking, So, I will tell you.
>
>1) Go to Pubmed ( http://www4.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ ) and do a
>search against my name for some of my publications.
>
>2) Go to the US Patent Office Boolean Search site at:
>
>http://patents.uspto.gov/access/search-bool.html
>
> Do a search on all years using my name and "hair loss" "alopecia",
>etc. as keywords.
>
>Peter H. Proctor, PhD, MD
>http://www.drproctor.com
>
"""""""""""""""""""""""""
As usual Doc.P tolerates all the bs.

"A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the
bricks that others throw at him"


Anon Mail

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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heh heh....I like this thread...lol


Jacko

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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<wbrink*NOSPAM*-19089909...@1cust180.tnt6.bos2.da.uu.net>,
wbrink*NOSPAM*@earthlink.net (Will Brink) wrote:

> You think? Does not seem like you think. Seems more like another
coward
> troll hiding posting with no name.

Will I'm not trying to flame you here but what's the matter with posting
not using your real name. I don't want my friends to know that I'm
posting to this group nor do I want them to know that I'm balding (I
don't have extensive loss) it's none of their business. My last name is
very "ethnic" and unique and it would be very easy to find if someone
did a search on my name. I could have posted under the name of James
Collins (or whatever) but does that make my posts any more believable?
This forum is totally uncontrolled in that fashion and you have to get
the big picture not just the single rant of one guy.

Again no flame intented.

Grow some hair.

Jacko


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John Ertel

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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I trust both Dr. Proctor and Dr. Lee - and BOTH have banners on my site.
And I do not have a problem with anyone asking them or any other person for
scientific support for their claims in a non-negative manner, whether they
are
advertisers on my site or not. Whether they respond or not, calling someone
names just because they DARE to put a LEGITIMATE question to someone
selling a product is a VERY BAD precedent. Also, I didn't criticize Dr. P,
Dr. Lee,
or anybody but the person calling someone else names just for asking for
proof.
And no I was not defending the anonymous poster asking for a resume. The
person
who asked for scientific support was JTD, who is neither an anonymous poster
or someone out of the blue that no one in this forum knows. He asked
politely and
all he got was called names. If some of the other doctors who are less
popular in
this forum come on, are you going to call the people who ask them for
scientific
evidence names as well? No, you will probably support them. So are you
saying
that we should just take everything on blind faith and ask no questions of
people
selling products??? And that anybody who asks should be slammed just for
asking??
Sorry I will never be on your side of the argument there, no matter which
doctor.


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KaneeshiWa

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Does that mean you will keep that piehole shut now then? At least you can
admit you were wrong. That guy was wearing Proctor out in several posts and it
was not just an "innocent" request for proof and you and everyone else knows
it.

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud

>From: "John Ertel" regr...@regrowth.com
>Date: Fri, 20 August 1999 01:16 PM EDT
>Message-id: <h$nOV$y6#GA....@hawkeye.i3s.net>

John Ertel

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Aug 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/21/99
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I never said I was wrong -- please reread the message. Nobody is above
being asked for proof that their product works. I never said I agreed with
the original poster. I only supported JTD's right to ask for proof. I
don't care if you don't like JTD or not. It doesn't matter whether it's him,
Spencer, me, or you -- any of us have the right to ask someone who is
producing a hair loss product to provide supporting evidence that their
product works. Whether that person does or doesn't produce it is beyond our
control, but at least it will be public knowledge that when asked to provide
it they did not. If you just want to have a personal argument with JTD you
should take it to email instead of trying to say that nobody can ask Dr.
Proctor to provide proof his product works. Or do you just plan to try to
intimidate people into not asking questions by attacking them? Dr. Proctor
is more than capable of answering questions about his product (he does when
asked) without someone slinging insults at the inquirers and trying to
defend him. And maybe you should take a lesson from him and try conducting
yourself in as professional a manner as he does.

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The Complete Guide and Reference for Hair Loss
http://www.regrowth.com/
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KaneeshiWa

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Aug 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/21/99
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Don't be supercilious with me. You might the people on this NG fooled but you
are nothing to me. Crawl back in your hole.

You and I and everyone else knows that the guy that was asking Proctor those
questions was not doing so in an innocent way. I have no problem with asking
for proof but he was badgering Proctor. I guess you condone that in the name
of complete knowledge though.

>Subject: Re: what A waste :Proctor is a fraud
>From: "John Ertel" regr...@regrowth.com

>Date: Sat, 21 August 1999 04:52 AM EDT
>Message-id: <SE4KZK76#GA...@hawkeye.i3s.net>

Will Brink

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In article <7pjvm6$fh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Jacko <jt_m...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> <wbrink*NOSPAM*-19089909...@1cust180.tnt6.bos2.da.uu.net>,
> wbrink*NOSPAM*@earthlink.net (Will Brink) wrote:
>
> > You think? Does not seem like you think. Seems more like another
> coward
> > troll hiding posting with no name.
>
> Will I'm not trying to flame you here but what's the matter with posting
> not using your real name. I don't want my friends to know that I'm
> posting to this group nor do I want them to know that I'm balding (I
> don't have extensive loss) it's none of their business. My last name is
> very "ethnic" and unique and it would be very easy to find if someone
> did a search on my name. I could have posted under the name of James
> Collins (or whatever) but does that make my posts any more believable?
> This forum is totally uncontrolled in that fashion and you have to get
> the big picture not just the single rant of one guy.
>
> Again no flame intented.

Understood but I am suprised you have not thought this through a little
better. There is nothing wrong with posting without a name if you wish but
to accuse a person of something and not have the balls to put your name to
it are two very different things and you should see that easy.

>
> Grow some hair.
>
> Jacko
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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