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Hachiroku ハチロク

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Apr 9, 2011, 11:28:13 PM4/9/11
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1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! The
manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put the
spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.

Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the
retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas
there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so
on this car.

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nm...@wt.net

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Apr 9, 2011, 10:39:39 PM4/9/11
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Hummm.. Weird.. If you can't get to the adjuster, I'd
probably try whacking the drums with a hammer to see if
the shoes will pop loose from against the drums enough
to slide off. They are probably down in a wear groove
or something. The shoes need to clear the unworn drum
areas.


Hachiroku ハチロク

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Apr 9, 2011, 11:45:20 PM4/9/11
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Yeah, i tried that.

Actually, it was good that it didn't work, because when I checked the new
drums, they don't have studs in them!!


FatterDumber& Happier Moe

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Apr 10, 2011, 6:20:57 AM4/10/11
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Here's a video for a 99 Mazda Protege looks like the adjuster is at
the top. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RxOKFAuhg8 I'd be looking up
there for a rubber plug, I seen some cars with metal knock outs which
you "knock out" and replace with a rubber plug.
If you are lucky the drum will have threaded holes and you can use
bolts as a "puller" or in this case a "pusher"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po-WXqIKjHQ&feature=related
Lots more video of course. See if you can find one that comes close
to what you have... good luck, have fun.

jim beam

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Apr 10, 2011, 12:46:26 PM4/10/11
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"stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes
that will force the drum off the hub?

or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in
grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the
drums can't be re-used anyway.


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Hachiroku ハチロク

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Apr 10, 2011, 8:15:38 PM4/10/11
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I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.

Brent

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Apr 10, 2011, 10:09:41 PM4/10/11
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On 2011-04-11, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>
>> On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge!
>>> The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put
>>> the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
>>>
>>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the
>>> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas
>>> there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so
>>> on this car.
>>
>> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes that
>> will force the drum off the hub?
>>
>> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in
>> grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the drums
>> can't be re-used anyway.
>
>
> I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.

Are the factory flat head screws still attaching them to the hub?


Hachiroku ハチロク

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Apr 10, 2011, 11:58:37 PM4/10/11
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:09:41 +0000, Brent wrote:

> On 2011-04-11, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=
> <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>>

>>> On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ (B wrote:
>>>> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge!
>>>> The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to
>>>> put the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
>>>>
>>>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the
>>>> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On
>>>> Toyotas there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster,
>>>> but not so on this car.
>>>
>>> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes
>>> that will force the drum off the hub?
>>>
>>> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in
>>> grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the
>>> drums can't be re-used anyway.
>>
>>
>> I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.
>
> Are the factory flat head screws still attaching them to the hub?

Hmmm... not that I am aware of.

I had them off a few years ago to do an inspection, and all I remember is
moving a spring stop, then moving the lever for the parking brake out of
the way, and then sliding the drums off.


Ray O

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Apr 11, 2011, 12:35:46 AM4/11/11
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"Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:0B8op.2346$7N3....@newsfe10.iad...

I would think that there is a plug somewhere on the backing plate to access
the adjuster. It is high on some cars and low on others.

If the drum is frozen around the hub, an acetylene torch on the face of the
drum just outside the hub may expand the drum enough to pop free of the hub.
I anti-seize the hub where the drum fits over so it doesn't freeze again.


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Ray O
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m6onz5a

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Apr 11, 2011, 6:28:05 AM4/11/11
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On Apr 10, 11:58 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:09:41 +0000, Brent wrote:
> > On 2011-04-11, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?=
> > <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>
> >>> On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> >>>> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge!
> >>>> The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to
> >>>> put the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
>
> >>>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the
> >>>> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On
> >>>> Toyotas there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster,
> >>>> but not so on this car.
>
> >>> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes
> >>> that will force the drum off the hub?
>
> >>> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in
> >>> grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the
> >>> drums can't be re-used anyway.
>
> >> I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.
>
> > Are the factory flat head screws still attaching them to the hub?
>
> Hmmm... not that I am aware of.
>
> I had them off a few years ago to do an inspection, and all I remember is
> moving a spring stop, then moving the lever for the parking brake out of
> the way, and then sliding the drums off.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

hopefully your parking brake isn't on. ;)

Mr.E

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Apr 11, 2011, 8:22:55 AM4/11/11
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There are two JIS phillips screws in each drum face on my 1983 Mazda.
I use a hand held hammer impact tool to loosen and remove them. There
are two threaded holes that they will fit to pull the drum but I used
two metric hex head bolts for better control.
Bolts and axle hubs were sprayed with PB Blaster and drum was removed
without having to back off brake adjustments.
Axle end was also wire brushed prior to pulling drum.

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Mr.E

Hachiroku ハチロク

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Apr 11, 2011, 10:27:28 PM4/11/11
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ROTFL..no, I haven't done THAT one for a few years...!

ben91932

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Apr 14, 2011, 7:55:41 PM4/14/11
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On Apr 9, 8:28 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge!

Get a bigger hammer!
Hit it harder!

Hachiroku ハチロク

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