No real power from engine before 50K miles?
cimetiere
i just bought a Camry 2007 and found that it is much slower to accelerate
than my 2002 version. I have been told you never get the real power of the
engine before 50K miles. Is this true?
many thanks!!!
Ray O
"cimetiere" <cime...@moncanoe.com> wrote in message
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No.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
Coyoteboy
Take whoever told you that and put them in a box labelled "People never
to listen to again".
J
badgolferman
<Sp6zg.17798$e33....@weber.videotron.net> wrote:
Do they have the same size engines? Is the older one a V6 and the
newer one an inline 4? According to these sites the 4 cylinder models
have comparable ratings but the 6 cylinder 2007 should be much more
peppier. Of course the overall weight of the vehicles will affect
performance also.
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?year=2002&make=Toyota
&model=Camry&trimid=-1
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?year=2007&make=Toyota
&model=Camry&trimid=-1
Reasoned Insanity
I can't tell you what to check on your car, but I can tell you to put
whoever told you that load of crap on the same shelf with the people who
aren't really mechanics, but play them on TV.
cimetiere
slight hesitation from the car when i try to accelerate, like if it was
taking a delay of half a second before it reacts. The other one was not
doing this!
Daniel
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C. E. White
> It is a 4 cyl. the 2002 one was 4 cyl. too. It looks like there is a
> slight hesitation from the car when i try to accelerate, like if it was
> taking a delay of half a second before it reacts. The other one was not
> doing this!
Maybe you are experincing the "fly by wire" delay that some Toyota Customers
complain about. Apparently this is normal.
http://www.acuraworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51268
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/rav4/64622-throttle-delay/
http://www.epinions.com/content_106104983172
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ee9950e/3222
http://www.doeuv.com/Lexus-ES-330-343614.html
http://tinyurl.com/zd4ll
You might also look in the NHTSA Database
(http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/complaintsearch.cfm).
There are a few (7 or so already for a 2007 Camry) complaints related to the
behavior of the automatic transmission and throttle. Here are the summaries
from two typical complaints:
Make: TOYOTA
Model: CAMRY
Type: PASSENGER CAR
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10163003
Summary:
DT*: THE CONTACT STATED AT VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE VEHICLE HESITATED WHILE THE
ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED. THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN INSPECTED BY THE
DEALERSHIP. THE DEALERSHIP DETERMINED THIS WAS NORMAL OPERATING CONDITION
FOR THE VEHICLE.
....
Make: TOYOTA
Model: CAMRY
Type: PASSENGER CAR
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10158309
Summary:
CAR HUNTS FOR GEAR AROUND 2,000 RPMS AND HESITATES A LOT. OTHERS HAVE TOLD
ME THAT THE 2007 4 CYL. AUTOMATIC "ALL DO IT. *JB
Ed
Scott in Florida
<cime...@moncanoe.com> wrote:
>It is a 4 cyl. the 2002 one was 4 cyl. too. It looks like there is a
>slight hesitation from the car when i try to accelerate, like if it was
>taking a delay of half a second before it reacts. The other one was not
>doing this!
>
>Daniel
Welcome to 'fly by wire' throttles.
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Scott in Florida
C. E. White
"Scott in Florida" <askify...@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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Is Toyota doing anything differently than Nissan, Ford, or GM? I've driven a
number of vehicles with fly by wire throttles (Nissan Frontier, Ford
Thunderbird, Ford Freestyle, Saturn Vue) and haven't noticed anything
disturbing. Sometimes I think there is an almost, but not quite undetectable
delay when I floor the T-bird's throttle, but I can't claim that it is a
hesitation. Certainly nothing objectionable. I can't really say there is
anything different between it and other cars I drive with traditional cable
operated throttles, just sometimes I want to think there is. It is probably
the transmission that is the source of the perceived delay, but since both
are controlled by the same PCM, it is hard to say what is going on. During
normal take off and acceleration, I don't see any difference. Only at WOT do
I think something different is going on. The Frontier has a similar behavior
if you absolutely floor it. Nothing objectionable. And under normal
acceleration I'd be hard pressed to tell you any difference between the fly
by wire throttle and conventional throttles. The other two fly-by-wire
throttles cars I have driven both had CVT transmissions, and they act so
weird there is no way I can say the fly-by-wire throttle is a problem. You
floor them, the engine speed jumps up and eventually the vehicle speeds goes
up as the transmissions adjust.
Ed
Coyoteboy
C. E. White wrote:
> Is Toyota doing anything differently than Nissan, Ford, or GM? I've driven a
> number of vehicles with fly by wire throttles (Nissan Frontier, Ford
> Thunderbird, Ford Freestyle, Saturn Vue) and haven't noticed anything
> disturbing. Sometimes I think there is an almost, but not quite undetectable
> delay when I floor the T-bird's throttle, but I can't claim that it is a
> hesitation. Certainly nothing objectionable.
Maybe its with smaller engines. Certainly every throttle-by-wire car
ive driven has ermm driven me nuts, delay literally of half a second if
not more. Even on throttle lift-off theyve held the revs high and
dropped them slowly (to do with emissions i am told, as transient
fuelling is hit and miss and usually poorly controlled). Ive only
driven small engined cars though, like 1-2 litre. The lag in the 1.2
Fiat i drove was far in excess of the turbo lag im used to and made
worse by the fact that it was *dead* before the engine responded
whereas my current car still has some poke until the turbo spools.
Coyoteboy
Coyoteboy wrote:
> Maybe its with smaller engines. Certainly every throttle-by-wire car
> ive driven has ermm driven me nuts, delay literally of half a second if
> not more. Even on throttle lift-off theyve held the revs high and
> dropped them slowly (to do with emissions i am told, as transient
> fuelling is hit and miss and usually poorly controlled). Ive only
> driven small engined cars though, like 1-2 litre. The lag in the 1.2
> Fiat i drove was far in excess of the turbo lag im used to and made
> worse by the fact that it was *dead* before the engine responded
> whereas my current car still has some poke until the turbo spools.
I will add these were all manuals.