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homepc
May 12, 2012, 10:08:39 AM5/12/12
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I think this is the last time my dealer will rotate my winter summer
tires -- they charged my $30 -- an increase of $10 over last year!
I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that came
with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear out
or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where is
the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of the
car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after lifting
the car.
Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the nuts
are re-tightened correctly?
I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
(cheaply) as possible.
tires -- they charged my $30 -- an increase of $10 over last year!
I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that came
with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear out
or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where is
the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of the
car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after lifting
the car.
Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the nuts
are re-tightened correctly?
I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
(cheaply) as possible.
Jeff Strickland
May 12, 2012, 12:51:37 PM5/12/12
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"homepc" <wieb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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safe, but wear and tear on the jack isn't the issue. The issue is that the
car can move, and fall off of the jack.
Loosen the lugnuts on the tire of your desire. Just make them so they are
not at full torque, do not make them so loose that you can spin them off by
hand.
Raise the car.
Remove the lugnuts that you pre-loosened.
Change the tire. spin the lugnuts tight by hand. Set them as tight as you
can BY HAND. (the goal is to make the wheel fit the hub flatly and fully,
and not knock the car off of the jack.)
Lower the car.
Use your torque wrench to set the lugnuts to the correct torque. You gotta
look this up, but 75 ~ 80 pounds is the general ballpark of this sort of
thing.
Move to the next wheel and repeat.
When you are changing a tire on the side of the road, you should follow the
same process -- loosen the nuts, raise the car, remove the nuts, change the
tire, install the nuts by hand, lower the car, tighten the nuts to spec.
You can, and some will say you should, leave the weight of the car on the
jack, but lower the car until the tire touches the ground, when you torque
the nuts. If the tire is not fully against the hub, but the car is still on
the jack, then the torque process will pull the tire in. If the weight of
the car is on the tire AND the tire is not against the hub, you can reach
the torque setting of the wrench but the nut can still not be tight.
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homepc
May 12, 2012, 1:47:37 PM5/12/12
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wrench to use for my purposes? I have read the correct torque is 76 lbs.
http://www.babcotools.ca/s.nl/it.A/id.39827/.f
KDT2957 1/2" Drive Torque Beam Wrench
homepc
May 12, 2012, 1:57:23 PM5/12/12
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On 12/05/2012 12:31 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> he's trying to rotate the tires, not change a tire on the side of the
> road.
>
> I see no good way to use the scissor jack that came with the tire as a
> tool to rotate the tires, unless he has five wheel/tire sets that he's
> rotating around and can raise one corner at a time.
>
> Scissor jacks are not meant to do anything *but* raise one corner at a
> time.
I am asking about doing a winter/summer tire change over. One wheel at
a time will be fine. I have two sets of tires on rims.
> he's trying to rotate the tires, not change a tire on the side of the
> road.
>
> I see no good way to use the scissor jack that came with the tire as a
> tool to rotate the tires, unless he has five wheel/tire sets that he's
> rotating around and can raise one corner at a time.
>
> Scissor jacks are not meant to do anything *but* raise one corner at a
> time.
I am asking about doing a winter/summer tire change over. One wheel at
a time will be fine. I have two sets of tires on rims.
Michael
May 12, 2012, 4:39:52 PM5/12/12
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Mart. Oh, and I place some jack stands underneath the car, just in
case the jack fails.
While you're rotating the tires, that's a great time to also inspect
brake pad wear, the CV boots and the brake lines. You also want to
look for weird wear patterns on the tire; unusual/uneven wear will
mean you need an alignment.
Michael
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May 12, 2012, 9:52:35 PM5/12/12
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homepc
May 13, 2012, 1:06:47 AM5/13/12
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On 12/05/2012 9:21 PM, Conscience wrote:
> A quick google search shows this little mouth-breather posts just this
> kind of response on several groups.
>
> Ignore the troll, as I should have.
>
>
I guess the subject of rotation set the poor beggar off on a tangent.
> A quick google search shows this little mouth-breather posts just this
> kind of response on several groups.
>
> Ignore the troll, as I should have.
>
>
I guess the subject of rotation set the poor beggar off on a tangent.
Jeff Strickland
May 13, 2012, 11:08:13 AM5/13/12
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <jom4bf$duj$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that
>> > came
>> > with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear
>> > out
>> > or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where
>> > is
>> > the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
>> > helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of
>> > the
>> > car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after
>> > lifting
>> > the car.
>> >
>> > Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the
>> > nuts
>> > are re-tightened correctly?
>> >
>> > I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
>> > equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
>> > (cheaply)
>> > as possible.
>> >
>>
>> It's safe to use the jack that came with the car. Well, it's not all that
>> safe, but wear and tear on the jack isn't the issue. The issue is that
>> the
>> car can move, and fall off of the jack.
>
>
>> > I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that
>> > came
>> > with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear
>> > out
>> > or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where
>> > is
>> > the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
>> > helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of
>> > the
>> > car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after
>> > lifting
>> > the car.
>> >
>> > Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the
>> > nuts
>> > are re-tightened correctly?
>> >
>> > I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
>> > equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
>> > (cheaply)
>> > as possible.
>> >
>>
>> It's safe to use the jack that came with the car. Well, it's not all that
>> safe, but wear and tear on the jack isn't the issue. The issue is that
>> the
>> car can move, and fall off of the jack.
>
> he's trying to rotate the tires, not change a tire on the side of the
> road.
>
> I see no good way to use the scissor jack that came with the tire as a
> tool to rotate the tires, unless he has five wheel/tire sets that he's
> rotating around and can raise one corner at a time.
>
> Scissor jacks are not meant to do anything *but* raise one corner at a
> time.
Yes, raise one corner at a time.
> road.
>
> I see no good way to use the scissor jack that came with the tire as a
> tool to rotate the tires, unless he has five wheel/tire sets that he's
> rotating around and can raise one corner at a time.
>
> Scissor jacks are not meant to do anything *but* raise one corner at a
> time.
He does not want to rotate the tires, he wants to change from winter to
summer tires, and it appears he has more than one set of wheels. One can
change from winter to summer tires ONE CORNER AT A TIME, it's not the most
efficient way, but it can be done, and the scissor jack can do the job. A
floor jack is far better to use for this, but he does not want to buy and
store a floor jack.
Personally, I think he should pay the ten bucks, or whatever, to have the
tire store do this job for him. but his question was on avoiding paying the
tire store.
Jeff Strickland
May 13, 2012, 11:20:28 AM5/13/12
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Sure. That will get the job done. It's not rocket science. Haviing said
that, if the correct torque spec is at the limit of the wrench, then the
wrench is not sufficient. You want the torque that you are looking for to
fall in the middle of the range of the tool. Instead of a tool that has a
max of 80 pounds, you want one with a max of 150 pounds so the 75 that you
need fall into the middle of the scale.
that, if the correct torque spec is at the limit of the wrench, then the
wrench is not sufficient. You want the torque that you are looking for to
fall in the middle of the range of the tool. Instead of a tool that has a
max of 80 pounds, you want one with a max of 150 pounds so the 75 that you
need fall into the middle of the scale.
hachiroku
May 13, 2012, 11:36:26 PM5/13/12
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hachiroku
May 13, 2012, 11:37:01 PM5/13/12
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hachiroku
May 13, 2012, 11:37:32 PM5/13/12
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hls
May 17, 2012, 11:22:44 AM5/17/12
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Personally, I think he should pay the ten bucks, or whatever, to have the
> tire store do this job for him. but his question was on avoiding paying
> the tire store.
>
He said he took the car to a dealer. Maybe it would be more economical
>
> Personally, I think he should pay the ten bucks, or whatever, to have the
> tire store do this job for him. but his question was on avoiding paying
> the tire store.
>
if he took it to a tire store or independent mechanic. I am sure that the
job would be done equally as well, if not better.
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