WIKILEAKS: "The Truth will set you free"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
This comment almost coincides with my own wisdom. After all my wisdom
is all about COMMON SENSE, and the only people that don't have it are
the Christians.
Notice our diplomats are plotting and throwing shit like monkeys...
'It is very disappointing to see the leading line,"U.S. diplomats
insulting world leaders", if that is the most important issue you take
from this perhaps you need a new line of work, reporting world news is
not going well for you!! It bothers me to know this but hey, let's be
frank some of it is based in truth. Do we not think that those foreign
leader do not have derogatory statements about U.S. diplomats,
especially considering our policies and faux pas, get real. As far as
putting people at risk by publishing this leak, the corresponding
agencies/governments did that prior to the release of any story about
it. And isn't it as usual the case, the exact reason for the release
is to shame the government into improvment and what do they do, cover
up some more, go figure uh?? There is plenty of high profile action
being recorded at any given moment to cover any leader in dung, is
that a surprise, are these people not human? Why would we not allow
them slack, we already allow them to commit murder and wreck mayhem.
Words are now going to bruise someone as well?? This is the 21st
century , please get up to speed!!'
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The Messenger
<c2ba8885-0895-4d77...@a17g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
philosopher" <comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
and;
Wikileaks: Two articles
1. Wikileaks: Antidote to Government Lies and
Misinformation
2. Secret US Embassy Cables
===
1.
Wikileaks: Antidote to Government Lies and
Misinformation
by Bill Koehnlein
According to Julian Assange, the founder and director
of Wikileaks, he was told by Australian intelligence
services, prior to the release by Wikileaks several
months ago of secret US government documents relating
to the war against Iraq, that all manner of smears and
personal attacks will be made against him, as
punishment for the work he is doing. The charge of
rape, for which Sweden has issued an arrest warrant for
Assange, appears to be bogus, an attempt to discredit
him and take attention away from the damning and
incriminating content of the hundreds of thousands of
documents made public by him and Wikileaks.
As expected, virtually every member of the upper
echelons of the US government is screaming for blood,
along with yahoos both liberal and conservative. Two
notable pimps, Peter King, the congressman from Nassau
County, and Joseph Lieberman, the senator from Tel
Aviv, have tried to outdo each other when it comes to
rhetorical venom. King accused Assange and Wikileaks of
"engag[ing] in terrorist activity" and said that
Wikileaks is "enabling terrorists to kill Americans.โค?
Lieberman, concluding a hysterical rant said, "Let
there be no doubt: the individuals responsible [for
disseminating the leaks] are going to have blood on
their hands."
Most government hacks, elected and appointed, who have
commented so far droned on in a similar vein, and the
thrust of much media coverage as well is a variation on
the same theme. Nonetheless, the US press *is*
reporting on some juicy details contained in a few of
the leaked documents, but compared to coverage by the
European press (The Guardian's Simon Jenkins said
"[t]he job of the media is not to protect the powerful
from embarrassment") US media is giving the actual
contents short shrift while focusing instead on
national security lapses, potential "endangerment" of
unspecified persons, and damage control in the realm of
foreign diplomacy.
Ironically, the documents leaked to the media do not
contain much that is particularly revealing to anyone
with an ounce of brains, common sense and an ability to
think critically. This is quite reminiscent of the
Pentagon Papers, made public by Daniel Ellsberg in 1971
and published in The New York Times, which, for the
most part, confirmed what everyone in the peace and
antiwar movement already knew. Additionally, none of
the documents released yesterday, or those which will
be made public in the coming weeks, have been
classified as "top secret"; indeed, though
"classified", they were freely available to more than
three million people who have access to something
called Siprnet, a "miniature" internet--or, more
accurately, an intranet--maintained by the United
States government as a repository for classified
documents, diplomatic correspondence, and internal
governmental memoranda.
Nonetheless, the US government has gone into deep
frantic mode after getting caught with its pants down.
The greatest damage, perhaps, has to do with political
and diplomatic embarrassment, yet the official refrain
accuses Assange and Wikileaks of nothing short of
imperiling civilization itself. Demagogues like King,
Lieberman, and all the other dutiful political hacks
scream loudly, but with no proof or substantiation at
all, that innocent people will be killed as a result of
the leaks; Assange the terrorist has blood on his
hands, they say. But Assange is not responsible for the
murders of millions of innocent people in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Pakistan and just about everywhere else in
the world. The United States is. Assange didn't launch
invasions, wars and occupations in the Middle East and
Asia. The United States did. Assange has gained
possession of documents, but he has never gained
possession of depleted uranium, cluster bombs, deadly
drones and all manner of weapons of mass destruction.
It is the United States which possesses those, and it
is the United States which has used them. Public
embarrassment is small penance to pay for committing
the worst crimes against humanity since the Nazis tore
Europe asunder seven decades ago.
What will become of Julian Assange? The only thing the
United States government can do is to kill him, and I'm
convinced this is what will happen. The US has no other
recourse. The release of these documents is of
historical importance, and that importance should not
be underestimated; nor, can any remedial action by the
US undo the shame that was made even more shameful by
making it public (to quote the famous Situationist
manifesto from the 1960s). His assassination will be
retribution for daring to take on and challenge the
most awesome, belligerent and aggressive superpower in
recent history; beyond that, it will be a clear signal
to other people who are inclined to defend
truthfulness, openness and free societies to be
considerably less adamant in their demands for freedom
and justice. I think that on some level Assange must
know that he is doomed. I wish him a long life but I
fear this is not something he will have.
Bill Koehnlein November 29, 2010
**
What is Wikileaks, actually? The media refers to it,
often labeling it a "whistle-blower website".
For the curious, this is what Wikileaks says about
itself: http://www.wikileaks.org/media/about.html
===
2.
Secret US Embassy Cables
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/
Wikileaks began on Sunday November 28th publishing
251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the
largest set of confidential documents ever to be
released into the public domain. The documents will
give people around the world an unprecedented insight
into US Government foreign activities.
The cables, which date from 1966 up until the end of
February this year, contain confidential communications
between 274 embassies in countries throughout the world
and the State Department in Washington DC. 15,652 of
the cables are classified Secret.
The embassy cables will be released in stages over the
next few months. The subject matter of these cables is
of such importance, and the geographical spread so
broad, that to do otherwise would not do this material
justice.
The cables show the extent of US spying on its allies
and the UN; turning a blind eye to corruption and human
rights abuse in "client states"; backroom deals with
supposedly neutral countries; lobbying for US
corporations; and the measures US diplomats take to
advance those who have access to them.
This document release reveals the contradictions
between the US's public persona and what it says behind
closed doors -- and shows that if citizens in a
democracy want their governments to reflect their
wishes, they should ask to see what's going on behind
the scenes.
Every American schoolchild is taught that George
Washington, the country's first President, "could not
tell a lie." If the administrations of his successors
lived up to the same principle, today's document flood
would be a mere embarrassment. Instead, the US
Government has been warning governments -- even the
most corrupt -- around the world about the coming leaks
and is bracing itself for the exposures.
The full set consists of 251,287 documents, comprising
261,276,536 words (seven times the size of "The Iraq
War Logs", the world's previously largest classified
information release).
The cables cover from 28th December 1966 to 28th
February 2010 and originate from 274 embassies,
consulates and diplomatic missions.
Groups to contact for comment
How to explore the data
Search for events that you remember that happened for
example in your country. You can browse by date or
search for an origin near you.
Pick out interesting events and tell others about them.
Use twitter, reddit, mail whatever suits your audience
best.
For twitter or other social networking services please
use the #cablegate or unique reference ID (e.g.
#66BUENOSAIRES2481) as hash tags.
Key figures:
* 15, 652 secret
* 101,748 confidential
* 133,887 unclassified
* Iraq most discussed country -- 15,365 (Cables coming
from Iraq -- 6,677)
* Ankara, Turkey had most cables coming from it -- 7,918
* From Secretary of State office -- 8,017
According to the US State Departments labeling system,
the most frequent subjects discussed are:
* External political relations -- 145,451
* Internal government affairs -- 122,896
* Human rights -- 55,211
* Economic Conditions -- 49,044
* Terrorists and terrorism -- 28,801
* UN security council -- 6,532
More: http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/
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Karma, What a concept!
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
Be ready to take the shit back as you throw the shit at the jungle and
expose it...
"Given that Sweden is a civilized country, I am reluctantly forced to
conclude that this is a persecution and not a prosecution," said his
lawyer.
The Messenger
<4ef91352-81a4-41b8...@z17g2000prz.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
and;
In article <id5v4t$k75$3...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Tesla <nic...@nicotesla.net> wrote:
> The stuck pigs are squealing. To shift the onus from the US State
> Department, Hillary Clinton paints Wikileaks' release of the "diplomatic
> cables" as an "attack on the international community". To reveal truth
> is equivalent in the eyes of the US government to an attack on the world.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11868838
>
> It is Wikileaks' fault that all those US diplomats wrote a quarter of a
> million undiplomatic messages about America's allies, a.k.a., puppet
> states. It is also Wikileaks' fault that a member of the US government
> could no longer stomach the cynical ways in which the US government
> manipulates foreign governments to serve, not their own people, but
> American interests, and delivered the incriminating evidence to Wikileaks.
>
> The US government actually thinks that it was Wikileaks patriotic duty
> to return the evidence and to identify the leaker. After all, we mustn't
> let the rest of the world find out what we are up to. They might stop
> believing our lies.
>
> The influential German magazine, Der Spiegel, writes: "It is nothing
> short of a political meltdown for US foreign policy."
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,731580,00.html
>
> This might be more a hope than a reality. The "Soviet threat" during the
> second half of the 20th century enabled US governments to create
> institutions that subordinated the interests of other countries to those
> of the US government. After decades of following US leadership, European
> "leaders" know no other way to act. Finding out that the boss badmouths
> and deceives them is unlikely to light a spirit of independence. At
> least not until America's economic collapse becomes more noticeable.
>
> The question is: how much will the press tell us about the documents?
> Spiegel itself has said that the magazine is permitting the US
> government to censure, at least in part, what it prints about the leaked
> material. Most likely, this means the public will not learn the content
> of the 4,330 documents that "are so explosive that they are labelled
> 君OFORN,'" meaning that foreigners, including presidents, prime
> ministers, and security services that share information with the CIA,
> are not permitted to read the documents. Possibly, also, the content of
> the 16,652 cables classified as "secret" will not be revealed to the public.
>
> Most likely the press, considering their readers' interests, will focus
> on gossip and the unflattering remarks Americans made about their
> foreign counterparts. It will be good for laughs. Also, the US
> government will attempt to focus the media in ways that advance US policies.
>
> Indeed, it has already begun. On November 29, National Public Radio
> emphasized that the cables showed that Iran was isolated even in the
> Muslim world, making it easier for the Israelis and Americans to attack.
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131675390
>
> The leaked cables reveal that the president of Egypt, an American
> puppet, hates Iran, and the Saudi Arabian government has been long
> urging the US government to attack Iran. In other words, Iran is so
> dangerous to the world that even its co-religionists want Iran wiped off
> the face of the earth.
>
> NPR presented several nonobjective "Iranian experts" who denigrated Iran
> and its leadership and declared that the US government, by resisting its
> Middle Eastern allies' calls for bombing Iran, was the moderate in the
> picture. The fact that President George W. Bush declared Iran to be a
> member of "the axis of evil" and threatened repeatedly to attack Iran,
> and that President Obama has continued the threats帰dm. Michael Mullen,
> Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, has just reiterated that the
> US hasn't taken the attack option off the table蟻re not regarded by
> American "Iran experts" as indications of anything other than American
> moderation.
>
> Somehow it did not come across the NPR newscast that it is not Iran but
> Israel that routinely slaughters civilians in Lebanon, Gaza, and the
> West Bank, and that it is not Iran but the US and its NATO mercenaries
> who slaughter civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yeman, and Pakistan.
>
> Iran has not invaded any of its neighbors, but the Americans are
> invading countries half way around the globe.
>
> The "Iranian experts" treated the Saudi and Egyptian rulers' hatred of
> Iran as a vindication of the US and Israeli governments' demonization of
> Iran. Not a single "Iranian expert" was capable of pointing out that the
> tyrants who rule Egypt and Saudi Arabia fear Iran because the Iranian
> government represents the interests of Muslims, and the Saudi and
> Egyptian governments represent the interests of the Americans.
>
> Think what it must feel like to be a tyrant suppressing the aspirations
> of your own people in order to serve the hegemony of a foreign country,
> while a nearby Muslim government strives to protect its people's
> independence from foreign hegemony.
>
> Undoubtedly, the tyrants become very anxious. What if their oppressed
> subjects get ideas? Little wonder the Saudis and Egyptian rulers want
> the Americans to eliminate the independent-minded country that is a bad
> example for Egyptian and Saudi subjects.
>
> As long as the dollar has enough value that it can be used to purchase
> foreign governments, information damaging to the US government is
> unlikely to have much affect. As Alain of Lille said a long time ago,
> "money is all."
>
> http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/alain-deplanctu.html
> Source:
>
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/who-precisely-is-attacking-the-world.html
-
> "The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we
> are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies,
> to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings."
>
> John F. Kennedy
Sharx35
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4ef91352-81a4-41b8...@z17g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
> "Given that Sweden is a civilized country, I am reluctantly forced to
> conclude that this is a persecution and not a prosecution," said his
> lawyer.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101201/ap_on_re_eu/wikileaks
The BIG test is: will the enemies of the West be better off or worse off,
with the revealed information. If OUR enemies gain from WIKILEAKS, I say
throw EVERYONE involved in the leaks into Guat Bay for a few decades. How
can ANYONE be in favour of information leaks which could harm the West?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4ef91352-81a4-41b8...@z17g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > "Given that Sweden is a civilized country, I am reluctantly forced to
> > conclude that this is a persecution and not a prosecution," said his
> > lawyer.
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101201/ap_on_re_eu/wikileaks
>
> with the revealed information. If OUR enemies gain from WIKILEAKS, I say
> throw EVERYONE involved in the leaks into Guat Bay for a few decades. How
> can ANYONE be in favour of information leaks which could harm the West?
His friends are afraid the West has issued a "fatwa" calling on all
good patriots to get rid of him.
The Messenger
<f912de2e-d305-4f0e...@r16g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
and ;
Wikileaks and Imperial Mobilization
In order to comprehend the ostensibly bizarre Wikileaks phenomena that
is continually in the news these days, it is essential to first
comprehend the concept of the 'Mighty Wurlitzer'.
It used to be the honorific of Frank Wisner, the first chief of
political warfare for the Central Intelligence Agency, used to
describe the C.I.A.零 plethora of front organizations and news-media
stooges that he was capable of playing (like a great organ with many
keyboards) for synthesizing any propaganda tune that was needed for
the day.
More details may be gleaned in the disclosures of Operation
Mockingbird.
http://print-humanbeingsfirst.blogspot.com/2010/11/wikileaks-and-imperial
-mobilization.html
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
> In article
> <f912de2e-d305-4f0e-857e-ef659551d...@r16g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
>
>
>
> philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 7:38 am, "Sharx35" <sharx...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
> > > philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:4ef91352-81a4-41b8...@z17g2000prz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > "Given that Sweden is a civilized country, I am reluctantly forced to
> > > > conclude that this is a persecution and not a prosecution," said his
> > > > lawyer.
>
> > > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101201/ap_on_re_eu/wikileaks
>
> > > The BIG test is: will the enemies of the West be better off or worse off,
> > > with the revealed information. If OUR enemies gain from WIKILEAKS, I say
> > > throw EVERYONE involved in the leaks into Guat Bay for a few decades. How
> > > can ANYONE be in favour of information leaks which could harm the West?
>
> > His friends are afraid the West has issued a "fatwa" calling on all
> > good patriots to get rid of him.
>
> and ;
>
> Wikileaks and Imperial Mobilization
>
> In order to comprehend the ostensibly bizarre Wikileaks phenomena that
> is continually in the news these days, it is essential to first
> comprehend the concept of the 'Mighty Wurlitzer'.
>
> It used to be the honorific of Frank Wisner, the first chief of
> political warfare for the Central Intelligence Agency, used to
> stooges that he was capable of playing (like a great organ with many
> keyboards) for synthesizing any propaganda tune that was needed for
> the day.
>
> More details may be gleaned in the disclosures of Operation
> Mockingbird.
>
> -mobilization.html
> --
> Karma, What a concept!
Hey, no working link there. Did they hit it already?
Anyway what's the evidence of rape and why now?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
(the li-on exposed)
QUESTION:
tburgi
Western governments lay claim to moral authority in part from having
legal guarantees for a free press.
Threats of legal sanction against Wikileaks and yourself seem to
weaken this claim.
(What press needs to be protected except that which is unpopular to
the State? If being state-sanctioned is the test for being a media
organization, and therefore able to claim rights to press freedom, the
situation appears to be the same in authoritarian regimes and the
west.)
Do you agree that western governments risk losing moral authority
byattacking Wikileaks?
Do you believe western goverments have any moral authority to begin
with?
Thanks,
Tim Burgi
Vancouver, Canada
ANSWER:
Julian Assange
The west has fiscalised its basic power relationships through a web of
contracts, loans, shareholdings, bank holdings and so on. In such an
environment it is easy for speech to be "free" because a change in
political will rarely leads to any change in these basic instruments.
Western speech, as something that rarely has any effect on power, is,
like badgers and birds, free. In states like China, there is pervasive
censorship, because speech still has power and power is scared of it.
We should always look at censorship as an economic signal that reveals
the potential power of speech in that jurisdiction. The attacks
against us by the US point to a great hope, speech powerful enough to
break the fiscal blockade.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/12/03/wikileaks.assange.qanda/index.html
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
> The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, says the publication of
> private diplomatic communications represents an attack on the fabric
> of responsible government. A White House spokesman says the Obama
> administration is considering legal action against WikiLeaks.......
> Now, the world waits for the State Department mullahs to issue a
> fatwa!
Yep, that's the exact word I used before. The Christians are asking
for blood...
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
On Dec 5, 4:32 am, philosophy <catswhisker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi There Your Highness,
> I'm just back for a short time.
> You may like to go to the discussion board on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=1004&post=8163&uid=1087346024...
> Cheers
Funny, I just closed a Facebook account over privacy. They ask you
your birthdate, real name and who you want to have a friendship with,
so my girlfriend appeared to be looking for guys. It's either or.
I guess that's a chatting, dating and commercial thing. Most Internet
services bow to the lion. Even Google, right? ;)
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
The cat & mouse game:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101205/ap_on_hi_te/wikileaks
The game will never be the same.
Sharx35
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in >
> Funny, I just closed a Facebook account over privacy. They ask you
> your birthdate, real name and who you want to have a friendship with,
> so my girlfriend appeared to be looking for guys. It's either or.
If *I* was your "girlfriend", I would surely be looking for a guy...who
could get it up and KEEP IT UP. Obviously, YOU weren't filling your GF's
needs, so to speak.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in >
>
> > your birthdate, real name and who you want to have a friendship with,
> > so my girlfriend appeared to be looking for guys. It's either or.
>
> could get it up and KEEP IT UP. Obviously, YOU weren't filling your GF's
> needs, so to speak.
Hey, Facebook is an evil organization that breaks down the monogamous
relationship and makes the monkeys go wild looking for several
partners.
I will post it right away...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101205/ts_afp/usitcompanyinternetfacebook#mwpphu-container
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
"MAKING NOISE" IS THE BEST WEAPON OF THE MONKEY.
Bad press tames the lion.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
Now FART FOR PEACE!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101206/ap_on_re_eu/wikileaks#mwpphu-container
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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
"The cables reveal Russia is a mafia state...
Now it turns out few governments are outside the Cosa Nostra."
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
"He better start looking for a cave in the Swiss Alps!"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
I'm trying to post this at Wikileaks comments after Assange's arrest,
but it doesn't take it:
"Dec 7 1941- Dec 7 2010"
A day that will live in infamy twice!
.VFW.
The Messenger <geor...@toast.net> wrote:
> > ŚNOFORN,'" meaning that foreigners, including presidents, prime
> > ministers, and security services that share information with the CIA,
> > are not permitted to read the documents. Possibly, also, the content of
> > the 16,652 cables classified as "secret" will not be revealed to the public.
> >
> > Most likely the press, considering their readers' interests, will focus
> > on gossip and the unflattering remarks Americans made about their
> > foreign counterparts. It will be good for laughs. Also, the US
> > government will attempt to focus the media in ways that advance US policies.
> >
> > Indeed, it has already begun. On November 29, National Public Radio
> > emphasized that the cables showed that Iran was isolated even in the
> > Muslim world, making it easier for the Israelis and Americans to attack.
> >
> > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131675390
> >
> > The leaked cables reveal that the president of Egypt, an American
> > puppet, hates Iran, and the Saudi Arabian government has been long
> > urging the US government to attack Iran. In other words, Iran is so
> > dangerous to the world that even its co-religionists want Iran wiped off
> > the face of the earth.
> >
> > NPR presented several nonobjective "Iranian experts" who denigrated Iran
> > and its leadership and declared that the US government, by resisting its
> > Middle Eastern allies' calls for bombing Iran, was the moderate in the
> > picture. The fact that President George W. Bush declared Iran to be a
> > member of "the axis of evil" and threatened repeatedly to attack Iran,
> > and that President Obama has continued the threats‹Adm. Michael Mullen,
> > Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, has just reiterated that the
> > US hasn't taken the attack option off the table‹are not regarded by
and;
don't support companies that practice censorship;
MasterCard is the latest in a string of U.S.-based Internet companies ‹
including Visa, Amazon.com, PayPal Inc. and EveryDNS ‹ to cut ties to
WikiLeaks in recent days amid intense U.S. government pressure.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101208/ap_on_hi_te/wikileaks
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> In article <georgeswk-216437.14524801122...@news.toast.net>,> > <4ef91352-81a4-41b8-b8ef-4ddae7e8a...@z17g2000prz.googlegroups.com>,
> > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
>
> > > Be ready to take the shit back as you throw the shit at the jungle and
> > > expose it...
>
> > > "Given that Sweden is a civilized country, I am reluctantly forced to
> > > conclude that this is a persecution and not a prosecution," said his
> > > lawyer.
>
> > >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101201/ap_on_re_eu/wikileaks
>
> > and;
> > > ministers, and security services that share information with the CIA,
> > > are not permitted to read the documents. Possibly, also, the content of
> > > the 16,652 cables classified as "secret" will not be revealed to the public.
>
> > > Most likely the press, considering their readers' interests, will focus
> > > on gossip and the unflattering remarks Americans made about their
> > > foreign counterparts. It will be good for laughs. Also, the US
> > > government will attempt to focus the media in ways that advance US policies.
>
> > > Indeed, it has already begun. On November 29, National Public Radio
> > > emphasized that the cables showed that Iran was isolated even in the
> > > Muslim world, making it easier for the Israelis and Americans to attack.
>
> > >http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131675390
>
> > > The leaked cables reveal that the president of Egypt, an American
> > > puppet, hates Iran, and the Saudi Arabian government has been long
> > > urging the US government to attack Iran. In other words, Iran is so
> > > dangerous to the world that even its co-religionists want Iran wiped off
> > > the face of the earth.
>
> > > NPR presented several nonobjective "Iranian experts" who denigrated Iran
> > > and its leadership and declared that the US government, by resisting its
> > > Middle Eastern allies' calls for bombing Iran, was the moderate in the
> > > picture. The fact that President George W. Bush declared Iran to be a
> > > member of "the axis of evil" and threatened repeatedly to attack Iran,
> > > Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, has just reiterated that the
> including Visa, Amazon.com, PayPal Inc. and EveryDNS � to cut ties to
> WikiLeaks in recent days amid intense U.S. government pressure.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101208/ap_on_hi_te/wikileaks
> --
> Karma, What a concept!
Exactly, DO NOT FEED THE LION!
Give him a banana...
http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Giving%20The%20Finger.jpg
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
The UK releases a convicted terrorist fearing a fit by Gaddafi, and
then apprehends someone for blowing the whistle.
What kind of Political Jungle we got? Assange has confirmed our worst
fears.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
On Dec 8, 5:49 pm, "Ma-who?" <theh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 8, 7:29 am, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Max <ass...@pcfin.net> wrote:
> > > The rape charges really look like a fit up to me, most of Australia
> > > and plenty of human rights activists, lawyers and even the Swedish
> > > public.
>
> > > It may well be a case of two women attempting to have someone
> > > criminalised for the political ends of another, more powerful enemy of
> > > Assange. Look, it seems that Assange did have consensual sex with two
> > > politically active women, but because of a lack of a condom &/or split
> > > condom, then allegations of rape have surfaced.
>
> > > This may be true and Assange may have a case to answer.....but isn't
> > > the timing of all of this somewhat extraordinary in all of this, don't
> > > you think?
>
> > > The yanks are pissed big time. There have been people in America
> > > talking up Assange as being a terrorist and a traitor (he's an
> > > Australian, so how some yank figures that) and unbelievably, some talk
> > > of assassination.
>
> > > Well, the tide is turning I think. The blogs and forums in Australia
> > > have been going ballistic with support for Assange and Wikileaks.
>
> > Blogs all over the world are supporting him and on FB as well including
> > mine.
>
> > I'm ignoring the "rape" charges and will not comment on them at all.
>
> > Doing so just advertises them
>
> I'll comment on them only to ridicule them. Both cases involve what
> the women themselves say was consensual sex, and both women continued
> their friendly relationship with Assange- the alleged molester and
> rapist here - after their encounters. The charges , of 'sex by
> surprise' (no one has yet stated what exactly this means afaik) were
> initially dropped by one Swedish prosecutor due to lack of evidence -
> and brought recently by a prosecutor in another city - just after the
> newest document dump.
Yep, it's so fake that only the ones ready to believe it do so. It's
like Jesus. ;)
>
> Both accusers are friends, and the primary accuser has ties to anti-
> Castro/communism groups that have been historically linked to the
> CIA.
They are everywhere: Watergate was the most famous case.
>
> It's a blatant political persecution - the US and all Western nations
> are showing their true colors on this issue. ***Assange's WikiLeaks
> has committed no criminal act, been charged with no crime, yet his
> life is threatened, his website shut down, his business partners
> bullied away, and imprisoned under false charges.*** It is only when
> a government is challenged - and challenged with the possibility of
> actual damage (deserved or otherwise) - that we can truly evaluate
> whether we live in a law-abiding democracy, or a thinly veiled
> tyranny. the behavior of our governments shows beyond doubt their
> disregard for the rule of law, and their willingness to break any law
> - and violate any freedom - to persecute their political opponents. As
> Noam Chomsky, famed intellectual, stated: [the response to the
> Wikileaks cables] " reveal a profound hatred of the democracy on the
> part of our political leadership."
They are afraid. The lion is still a lion no matter what the disguise
is. Communism is a CONTROL LION, this is a HUNGRY LION.
>
> The behavior of the mainstream corporate media should confirm to any
> careful observer that they are parroting the govt line with very
> little dissent or real truth breaking through - a clear sign of
> control and dishonesty.
>
> I am ashamed, and worse - I am afraid of my own government.
Yep, this is meant to intimidate as well.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
"Once the lion loses its camouflage you find a naked beast"
and
"From now on... we live under the Law of the Jungle.
Don't forget to take a banana to feed to the lion in an emergency! And
if whores come to you asking to be raped... use the banana too!"
Somehow they don't appear though. I still rely on my Google groups for
a sure shot. ;)
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
On Dec 10, 6:19 am, TLC <tlc.tere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is the "The damage done to America's image is worse after the arrest
> than before."?
>
> Yes, I'd say it's damaged America's reputation more. It's one thing
> having some of America's more looney politico's making ridicuolous
> statements about Julian should be hunted down and arrested like a
> terrorist, But, the arrest, even though seemingly for another
> incident, brings it into to real life what America's politico's will
> do to keep things quiet, but more because they are embarrassed by what
> people now know and think.
Thanks, the most damage to America's PR is self-inflicted and now the
beast is naked. They may crucify the guy to teach a lesson, but the
harsher they are the more doom the bring upon themselves.
John F. Kennedy had this much to say:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable." -John F. Kennedy
But violent revolutions rarely lead to something good, so we are truly
now living under the Law of the Jungle and things will go downhill
from here. International Law was dismissed in Iraq, and now Decency
Law is brushed aside.
The beast is seldom smart and we'll all go down with it. We don't
deserve any better if we don't speak up.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> Responding to His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the
> last days before the end of times:
>
>
>
> > SMART COMMENT:
>
> > (not mine)
>
> > It's a poor analogy likening governments to individuals. Someone who's
> > keeping a secret about cheating on their wife in their second year of
> > marriage has a right to privacy, as long as their conscience can bear
> > it. A government that has sent espionage task forces into underdeveloped
> > countries to upset their political system and install their own
> > "democratic" regime deserves no privacy. You've forgotten, governments
> > are made to serve individuals, and not the other way around. Things are
> > so backward nowadays that the US populace is complacently dependent upon
> > their government and the multinational corporations that it serves:
> > they're trading their freedom for material comfort and soothing lies.
>
> > ***
>
> > "Comforting and soothing lies" sound like Jesus, right?
>
> They don't sound like Americans to me.
Yep, it sounds depressing, but don't you worry. The party is coming
soon. ;)
Hey, let's keep partying because we are living in "the last days
before the end of times."
The hope is a sexy revolution out of the jungle, say banana.
Little Red is coming for sure...
http://www.halloweenplayground.com/images/legavenue/miss-little-red-riding-hood-costume.jpg
But we ain't inviting Jesus. He's too depressing.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
On Dec 10, 2:31 pm, Mystic Merman <mysticmer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 10, 11:29 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane
> prophet of the last days before the end of times"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 2:01 pm, Mystic Merman <mysticmer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 10, 10:47 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane
> > > prophet of the last days before the end of times"
>
> > > <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Hey, let's keep partying because we are living in "the last days
> > > > before the end of times."
>
> > > > The hope is a sexy revolution out of the jungle, say banana.
>
> > > > Little Red is coming for sure...
>
> > > >http://www.halloweenplayground.com/images/legavenue/miss-little-red-r...
>
> > > > But we ain't inviting Jesus. He's too depressing.
>
> > > To be fair, let's invite him too:
>
> > >http://www.sofurry.com/page/124080/search
>
> > Is that Jesus or the Wolf?
>
> > I said let's not invite Jesus. The Wolf is fun.
>
> All I'm saying is that if we are going to have a sexy Red Riding Hood,
> we need a sexy wolf too.
It sounds like fun. Hey, you saw this sexy lamb?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6eGo33cIAQ
I guess the massage here is "what a girl gotta do a girl gotta do."
You must be careful with girls too as Assange found out.
We gotta finish this jungle or else everybody will be afraid of
everybody.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
On Dec 15, 7:13 am, TLC <tlc.tere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why I'm Posting Bail Money for Julian Assange
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/why-im-posting-bail-money...
>
> In the Westminster Magistrates Court in London, the lawyers for
> WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange presented to the judge a document
> from me stating that I have put up $20,000 of my own money to help
> bail Mr. Assange out of jail.
>
> Furthermore, I am publicly offering the assistance of my website, my
> servers, my domain names and anything else I can do to keep WikiLeaks
> alive and thriving as it continues its work to expose the crimes that
> were concocted in secret and carried out in our name and with our tax
> dollars.
>
> We were taken to war in Iraq on a lie. Hundreds of thousands are now
> dead. Just imagine if the men who planned this war crime back in 2002
> had had a WikiLeaks to deal with. They might not have been able to
> pull it off. The only reason they thought they could get away with it
> was because they had a guaranteed cloak of secrecy. That guarantee has
> now been ripped from them, and I hope they are never able to operate
> in secret again.
>
> So why is WikiLeaks, after performing such an important public
> service, under such vicious attack? Because they have outed and
> embarrassed those who have covered up the truth. The assault on them
> has been over the top:
>
> - Sen. Joe Lieberman says WikiLeaks "has violated the Espionage Act."
>
> - The New Yorker's George Packer calls Assange "super-secretive, thin-
> skinned, [and] megalomaniacal."
>
> - Sarah Palin claims he's "an anti-American operative with blood on
> his hands" whom we should pursue "with the same urgency we pursue al
> Qaeda and Taliban leaders."
>
> - Democrat Bob Beckel (Walter Mondale's 1984 campaign manager) said
> about Assange on Fox: "A dead man can't leak stuff ... there's only
> one way to do it: illegally shoot the son of a bitch."
>
> - Republican Mary Matalin says "he's a psychopath, a sociopath ...
> He's a terrorist."
>
> - Rep. Peter A. King calls WikiLeaks a "terrorist organization."
>
> And indeed they are! They exist to terrorize the liars and warmongers
> who have brought ruin to our nation and to others. Perhaps the next
> war won't be so easy because the tables have been turned -- and now
> it's Big Brother who's being watched ... by us!
>
> WikiLeaks deserves our thanks for shining a huge spotlight on all
> this. But some in the corporate-owned press have dismissed the
> importance of WikiLeaks ("they've released little that's new!") or
> have painted them as simple anarchists ("WikiLeaks just releases
> everything without any editorial control!"). WikiLeaks exists, in
> part, because the mainstream media has failed to live up to its
> responsibility. The corporate owners have decimated newsrooms, making
> it impossible for good journalists to do their job. There's no time or
> money anymore for investigative journalism. Simply put, investors
> don't want those stories exposed. They like their secrets kept ... as
> secrets.
>
> I ask you to imagine how much different our world would be if
> WikiLeaks had existed 10 years ago. Take a look at this photo. That's
> Mr. Bush about to be handed a "secret" document on August 6th, 2001.
> Its heading read: "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US." And on those
> pages it said the FBI had discovered "patterns of suspicious activity
> in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings." Mr. Bush
> decided to ignore it and went fishing for the next four weeks.
>
> But if that document had been leaked, how would you or I have reacted?
> What would Congress or the FAA have done? Was there not a greater
> chance that someone, somewhere would have done something if all of us
> knew about bin Laden's impending attack using hijacked planes?
>
> But back then only a few people had access to that document. Because
> the secret was kept, a flight school instructor in San Diego who
> noticed that two Saudi students took no interest in takeoffs or
> landings, did nothing. Had he read about the bin Laden threat in the
> paper, might he have called the FBI? (Please read this essay by former
> FBI Agent Coleen Rowley, Time's 2002 co-Person of the Year, about her
> belief that had WikiLeaks been around in 2001, 9/11 might have been
> prevented.)
>
> Or what if the public in 2003 had been able to read "secret" memos
> from Dick Cheney as he pressured the CIA to give him the "facts" he
> wanted in order to build his false case for war? If a WikiLeaks had
> revealed at that time that there were, in fact, no weapons of mass
> destruction, do you think that the war would have been launched -- or
> rather, wouldn't there have been calls for Cheney's arrest?
>
> Openness, transparency -- these are among the few weapons the
> citizenry has to protect itself from the powerful and the corrupt.
> What if within days of August 4th, 1964 -- after the Pentagon had made
> up the lie that our ship was attacked by the North Vietnamese in the
> Gulf of Tonkin -- there had been a WikiLeaks to tell the American
> people that the whole thing was made up? I guess 58,000 of our
> soldiers (and 2 million Vietnamese) might be alive today.
>
> Instead, secrets killed them.
>
> For those of you who think it's wrong to support Julian Assange
> because of the sexual assault allegations he's being held for, all I
> ask is that you not be naive about how the government works when it
> decides to go after its prey. Please -- never, ever believe the
> "official story." And regardless of Assange's guilt or innocence (see
> the strange nature of the allegations here), this man has the right to
> have bail posted and to defend himself. I have joined with filmmakers
> Ken Loach and John Pilger and writer Jemima Khan in putting up the
> bail money -- and we hope the judge will accept this and grant his
> release today.
>
> Might WikiLeaks cause some unintended harm to diplomatic negotiations
> and U.S. interests around the world? Perhaps. But that's the price you
> pay when you and your government take us into a war based on a lie.
> Your punishment for misbehaving is that someone has to turn on all the
> lights in the room so that we can see what you're up to. You simply
> can't be trusted. So every cable, every email you write is now fair
> game. Sorry, but you brought this upon yourself. No one can hide from
> the truth now. No one can plot the next Big Lie if they know that they
> might be exposed.
>
> And that is the best thing that WikiLeaks has done. WikiLeaks, God
> bless them, will save lives as a result of their actions. And any of
> you who join me in supporting them are committing a true act of
> patriotism. Period.
>
> I stand today in absentia with Julian Assange in London and I ask the
> judge to grant him his release. I am willing to guarantee his return
> to court with the bail money I have wired to said court. I will not
> allow this injustice to continue unchallenged.
>
> P.S. You can read the statement I filed today in the London court
> here.
Gee, I'm about the recover my faith in the human race when I realize
that not everyone runs for cover under intimidation. Yes, I believe
that intimidation was part of it so no one would ever leak anything or
even try to deviate from the sheep. One mundane KMart employee told me
--in his own wisdom, that of the Three Wise Monkeys-- that they could
make you disappear for speaking the truth. Funny that perception is
out there. When the lion roars all the little animals tremble in fear.
That's the reason he roars, right? I believe most Christians also
practice that "wisdom." And we are being the Black Sheep here...
MOTTO:
"May the sun shine upon you in the shady jungle"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:34:18 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of
>
>
>
>
> >Yes, I believe that intimidation was part of it so no one would ever leak anything or
> >even try to deviate from the sheep.
>
> that, then not much could be.
>
> > One mundane KMart employee told me
> >--in his own wisdom, that of the Three Wise Monkeys-- that they could
> >make you disappear for speaking the truth.
>
>
> >Funny that perception is out there. When the lion roars all the little animals tremble in fear.
> >That's the reason he roars, right? I believe most Christians also
> >practice that "wisdom." And we are being the Black Sheep here...
>
> >MOTTO:
>
> >"May the sun shine upon you in the shady jungle"
>
> who know the secrets being outed are true and/or embarassing.
Agree, many people have spoken, but not nearly as many as there are
voters. Many 10% of them, and maybe most don't even vote.
It's sounds more like the USSR: ;)
On Dec 15, 12:15 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> Why don't you make up a better story right now. I am listening! But make it
> short. I hate long windedness.
In the beginning we evolved from apes, followed a long line toward
civilization... and after 1980 we started going back to the caves.
Caves mean, in metaphorical terms, INDIVIDUALISM, GATED COMMUNITIES,
SUV'S AND UNILATERAL WARS. We live in denial, and unwilling to take
the next step in evolution...
Reagan would have said,
"Oh c'mon, Mr Gorbachev, bring down those walls!"
By the way, Reagan was the one that brought the Law of the Jungle
back.
Sharx35
"Gary L. Burnore" <gbur...@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:ieavev$8b5$3...@nntpd.databasix.com...
> >
> Face it, the only people crying for action against wikileaks are those
> who know the secrets being outed are true and/or embarassing.
> --
> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
No, YOU face it. To reveal information that aids and abets the goals of
ENEMY groups/nations etc. is tantamount to treason. Anyone who does this and
ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM should face "terminal prejudice". I'd be the
first to volunteer to turn the lethal injection valve. LIEbrawls like Gary
should think carefully before spouting off in defense of other traitors.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> "Gary L. Burnore" <gburn...@databasix.com> wrote in messagenews:ieavev$8b5$3...@nntpd.databasix.com...
>
>
>
> > Face it, the only people crying for action against wikileaks are those
> > who know the secrets being outed are true and/or embarassing.
> > gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
>
> No, YOU face it. To reveal information that aids and abets the goals of
> ENEMY groups/nations etc. is tantamount to treason. Anyone who does this and
> ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM should face "terminal prejudice". I'd be the
> first to volunteer to turn the lethal injection valve. LIEbrawls like Gary
> should think carefully before spouting off in defense of other traitors.
You sound so much like the hardcore communists of the old guard.
Whatever happened to F-R-E-E S-P-E-A-C-H? You have thrown around shit
to so many regimes out there, so now it's your turn.
In the end a Conservative is a Conservative. LONG LIVE PERESTROIKA!
CharlesGrozny
"Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ieb7fc$sur$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
Burnmore is at it again, I see.
I doubt if he's ever READ the Constitution. Check Article 3, Section 3.
Treason is the ONLY crime defined in the Constitution.
Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying
War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and
Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of
two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The
Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no
Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except
during the Life of the Person attainted.
Charles Grozny
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> "Sharx35" <sharx...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ieb7fc$sur$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Gary L. Burnore" <gburn...@databasix.com> wrote in message
> >news:ieavev$8b5$3...@nntpd.databasix.com...
>
> >> Face it, the only people crying for action against wikileaks are those
> >> who know the secrets being outed are true and/or embarassing.
> >> --
> >> gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
>
> > No, YOU face it. To reveal information that aids and abets the goals of
> > ENEMY groups/nations etc. is tantamount to treason. Anyone who does this
> > and ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM should face "terminal prejudice". I'd be
> > the first to volunteer to turn the lethal injection valve. LIEbrawls like
> > Gary should think carefully before spouting off in defense of other
> > traitors.
>
>
> I doubt if he's ever READ the Constitution. Check Article 3, Section 3.
> Treason is the ONLY crime defined in the Constitution.
>
> Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying
> War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and
> Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of
> two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The
> Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no
> Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except
> during the Life of the Person attainted.
And he's Australian... so I don't know what kind of jurisdiction we
can claim here. Maybe the International Court. Hey, wait a minute we
are refusing membership in it. Never mind.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> In article
> <3a217cc9-2ac3-47ee-a3b0-b59fae945...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days
> before the end of times" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > (not mine)
>
> > It's a poor analogy likening governments to individuals. Someone who's
> > keeping a secret about cheating on their wife in their second year of
> > marriage has a right to privacy, as long as their conscience can bear
> > it. A government that has sent espionage task forces into
> > underdeveloped countries to upset their political system and install
> > their own "democratic" regime deserves no privacy. You've forgotten,
> > governments are made to serve individuals, and not the other way
> > around. Things are so backward nowadays that the US populace is
> > complacently dependent upon their government and the multinational
> > corporations that it serves: they're trading their freedom for
> > material comfort and soothing lies.
>
> > ***
>
> > "Comforting and soothing lies" sound like Jesus, right?
>
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
>
>
> > U.S. Tries to Build Case Against WikiLeaks Founder
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/world/16wiki.html
>
> A discussion here:
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2643320/posts
I find it funny that they "try to shoot the messenger," and not, say,
some Afghan big shot who landed with $54 million in another country as
revealed in the leaks.
Tru Dat
<1b004628-4187-405a...@p7g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
and;
In article <h9jlg6l9oomnrnbd5...@4ax.com>,
Peter Principle <petes...@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote:
> The dean of all whistle blowers, Daniel Ellsberg, whose leaking of the
> Pentagon Papers began the unraveling of thieving lying crook Richard Nixon,
> today spoke out in defense of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.
>
>
> From the Associated Press:
> ------
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/16/daniel-ellsberg-wikileaks_n_797801.ht
> ml
>
> Daniel Ellsberg Defends Julian Assange, Bradley Manning
>
> WASHINGTON — The man who famously leaked the Pentagon Papers during the
> Vietnam War defended both WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and the Army
> private suspected of providing the site with thousands of sensitive
> government documents.
>
> Daniel Ellsberg said Thursday that Wikileaks' disclosure of government
> secrets on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and thousands of diplomatic cables
> was "exactly the right thing" to do.
>
> "I think they provided a very valuable service," Ellsberg said, also
> referring to man suspected of leaking the documents, Pvt. Bradley Manning.
> "To call them terrorists is not only mistaken, it's absurd."
> <full story at URL>
> ------
>
> Absurd? When it comes to rightard shit shouters Ellsberg is being too kind.
> Bat shit crazy and rock hard stupid is closer to the mark.
>
> ---
> Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit. Slow thinkers keep right.
> ------
> Why are so many not smart enough to know they're not smart enough?
>
> Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Vol 77(6), Dec 1999, 1121-1134
>
> Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own
> Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
>
> Justin Kruger and David Dunning
> Department of Psychology
> Cornell University
>
> http://briandeer.com/wakefield/crank-features.pdf
>
> ABSTRACT:
> ...the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile
> on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test
> performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the
> 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
and;
The chairman of the House judiciary committee defended Wikileaks on
Thursday, arguing that the controversial actions of the anti-secrecy
outlet are protected under free speech. Speaking at a hearing to explore
whether Wikileaks violated the Espionage Act -- which the Obama
administration claims its editor-in-chief violated -- Rep. John Conyers
(D-MI) said that "America was founded on the belief that speech is
sacrosanct" and dismissed calls for censorship of media outlets
publishing leaked documents.
fo mo;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of
> > One mundane KMart employee told me
> >--in his own wisdom, that of the Three Wise Monkeys-- that they could
> >make you disappear for speaking the truth.
>
> Store manager. Area manager. District Manager. SAD.
Managers and above seem to have no political opinions as if they were
happy with the status quo. I go and ask the Proles. ;)
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days before the end of times
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard
>
> > MY COMMENT ON WIKILEAKS:
>
> > "MAKING NOISE" IS THE BEST WEAPON OF THE MONKEY.
>
> > Bad press tames the lion.
>
> and;
>
> Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The dean of all whistle blowers, Daniel Ellsberg, whose leaking of the
> > Pentagon Papers began the unraveling of thieving lying crook Richard Nixon,
> > today spoke out in defense of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.
>
> > From the Associated Press:
> > ------
Good to hear some black sheep are still standing up to the sheep.
Tru Dat
<e7469c06-2d91-4b90...@39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the mundane prophet of the last days
and;
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 17:05:45 -0500, The Gnostic <lo...@gnosistic.com>
wrote:
>>http://www.standwithbrad.org/
>>
>>
>>We stand for truth, for government transparency, and for an end to our
>>tax-dollars funding endless occupation abroad...
>>
>>We stand with accused whistle-blower
>>US Army Pfc. Bradley Manning
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Stand with Bradley!
>>
>>
>> A 23-year-old Army intelligence analyst, Pfc. Manning faces decades
>>in prison for allegedly leaking a video of a US helicopter attack that
>>killed at least eleven Iraqi civilians to the website Wikileaks. Among
>>the dead were two working Reuters reporters. Two children were also
>>severely wounded in the attack.
>>
>>In addition to this "Collateral Murder" video, Pfc. Manning is
>>suspected of leaking the "Afghan War Diaries" – tens of thousands of
>>battlefield reports that explicitly describe civilian deaths and
>>cover-ups, corrupt officials, collusion with warlords, and a failing
>>US/NATO war effort.
>>
>>"We only know these crimes took place because insiders blew the
>>whistle at great personal risk ... Government whistleblowers are part
>>of a healthy democracy and must be protected from reprisal," noted
>>Barack Obama while on the campaign trail in 2008. While the President
>>was referring to the Bush Administration's use of phone companies to
>>illegally spy on Americans, Pfc. Manning's alleged actions are just as
>>noteworthy. If the military charges against him are accurate, they
>>show that he had a reasonable belief that war crimes were being
>>covered up, and that he took action based on a crisis of conscience.
>>
>>After nearly a decade of war and occupation waged in our name, it is
>>odd that it apparently fell on a young Army private to provide
>>critical answers to the questions, "What have we purchased with well
>>over a trillion tax dollars and the deaths of hundreds of thousands in
>>Iraq and Afghanistan?” However, history is replete with unlikely
>>heroes.
>>
>>If Bradley Manning is indeed the source of these materials, the nation
>>owes him our gratitude. We ask Secretary of the Army, the Honorable
>>John M. McHugh, and Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army, General George W.
>>Casey, Jr., to release Pfc. Manning from pre-trial confinement and
>>drop the charges against him.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>Bradley Manning Support Network Advisory Board members:
>>
>> * Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink: Women for Peace
>> * Dr. Marsha Coleman-Adebayo, board member for the National
>>Whistleblower Center
>> * Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers whistle blower
>> * Kathleen Gilberd, co-chair of the Military Law Task Force of the
>>National Lawyers Guild
>> * Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst and activist
>> * Michael Moore, documentary filmmaker
>> * Jose Vasquez, executive director of Iraq Veterans against the
>>War
>> * US Army Colonel Ann Wright (ret.), former US State Department
>>official
>> * Kevin Zeese, co-founder and executive director, Voters for Peace
>>
>>Bradley Manning Support Network Steering Committee members:
>>
>> * Gerry Condon, national co-chair of the Veterans for Peace GI
>>Resistance Working Group
>> * Mike Gogulski, founder of bradleymanning.org
>> * Bob Meola, member of War Resisters League National Committee
>> * Jeff Paterson, project director of Courage to Resist
>> * Loraine Reitman, privacy advocate