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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 15, 2012, 9:00:44 PM4/15/12
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Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
weak. Is everybody willing participant?
Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
opinion.
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ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
weak. Is everybody willing participant?
Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
opinion.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_NightoftheLivingDead.jpg
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http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
little turtle
Apr 16, 2012, 1:02:43 AM4/16/12
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brain falls out.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 16, 2012, 1:45:22 AM4/16/12
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On Apr 16, 1:02 am, little turtle <@stream.il> wrote:
> On 4/15/2012 9:00 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
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> > Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> > ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> > sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> > that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> > with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> > hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> > worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> > blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> > wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> > hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> > in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> > weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> > Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> > walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> > opinion.
>
> >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_Nightofthe...
> On 4/15/2012 9:00 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
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> > Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> > ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> > sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> > that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> > with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> > hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> > worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> > blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> > wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> > hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> > in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> > weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> > Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> > walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> > opinion.
>
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> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Man, I don't know what you are smoking but I'd give it up before your
> brain falls out.
Well, philosophers are supposed to do the thinking for all the rest.
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Man, I don't know what you are smoking but I'd give it up before your
> brain falls out.
Just stay home when the zombies are out.
On Apr 16, 12:23 am, Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 15, 7:03 pm, Sir Ridesalot <i_am_cycle_pat...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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> > On Apr 15, 8:53 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
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> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> > > ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> > > sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> > > that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> > > with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing.
>
> That's alarming. Unless by "near misses" you mean "passed in close
> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> > > ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> > > sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> > > that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> > > with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing.
>
> proximity" (which is not necessarily a problem if everybody involved
> is situationally aware, in control, and exercising due care),
> something really wrong there.
Narrow sidewalks make them mean the same. I don't want to ring the
bell every time I pass a pedestrian and any involuntary movement is a
near miss.
>
> > > Today I almost
> > > hit a child that must have been daydreaming.
>
That's why they should be taught this world is a dangerous jungle. ;)
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> > > Elderly people really
> > > worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone.
>
> You really shouldn't even be thinking of the relative fragility on
> > > Elderly people really
> > > worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone.
>
> impact of your potential victims. However, ederly people can warrant
> some extra care since there are considerations such as alertness,
> response time, agility, etc. - not to mention general respect for your
> elders.
But they never say, "Hey, these cyclists deserve their own space so I
can have my own," and make noise with the local government. The other
day I reported to Target that they needed a pedestrian crossing for
people getting off the bus, and they told me that the seniors had to
make noise about it --and they haven't.
>
> > > Couples
> > > blocking my way patiently step aside.
>
> blows me away how many people are loath to go single file for
> anything.
We cyclists are forced to go single file on the road. It's not fair.
>
> > > Some give me a dirty look. I
> > > wished they understood I don't want to be there.
>
> going to scowl at you no matter what.
True, there's no sense of empathy.
>
> > > Cars, on the other
> > > hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> > > in a bubble.
>
> prevails (or, as I say, the laws of physics trump), and ultimately you
> have to watch out for yourself.
If you think about it, drivers get the ball rolling and it falls on
the weakest members, mainly the senior citizens who walk on sidewalks.
They don't want us on the road, so we take refuge on the sidewalk.
>
> > > We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> > > weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
Oh well, make noise so they create space for us. I bet you the mother
of our elected officials doesn't walk out there.
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> > > Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> > > walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> > > opinion.
>
> It's all out there.
>
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> > > Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> > > walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> > > opinion.
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> > >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_Nightofthe...
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> > Most pedestrains do *NOT* expect to encounter a bicycle that is moving
> > at any rate of speed on a sidewalk. Therefore those pedestrains are
> > not on the lookout for such a vehicle. As far as i am concerned a
> > bicycle being ridden at speed on a sidewalk with pedestrians also
> > using that sidewalk is even worse than the discrepency between law
> > abiding bicyclists sharing the same road with motor vehicles.
>
> I agree. Sidewalks belong to pedestrians, but here in the legal
> jurisdiction where I live and ride, bikes are allowed on sidewalks,
> except where specifically prohibited, which is usually downtown areas
> where pedestrian traffic is greatest. In most other areas there is
> almost never any pedestrian traffic, and sidewalks can be a good
> option for the bicyclist.
Except at every driveway and intersection. Cars are still a problem.
>
> > That is
> > because at leaast on the road there are rules and laws governing the
> > behaviour of the vehicles sharing it...
>
> There are rules and laws governing bikes and their interaction with
> pedestrians on sidewalks here.
Rule #1: "TRY NOT HIT THEM!"
>
> > ... such as which traffic shall
> > travel in which direction and when whereas on the sidewalk there is no
> > rule such as having one side of the walkway for westbound traffic and
> > the curbside for eastbound traffic or however the sidewalk is oriented
> > direction wise.
>
> Thank you. I was quite flabbergasted to find myself trying to
> convince people of this fact here before.
>
> > On the sidewalk you have such a mix of people of
> > varying degrees of mobility and awareness.
>
> Situational awareness, perceptive consideration, due care, deference
> and courtesy.
Drivers are beasts compared to pedestrians, who are very nice
people. ;)
>
> > If a bicyclist does elect
> > to ride on the sidewalk I think that bicyclist should ride as close
> > to the curb as is practcable so that they do not strike a pedestrian
> > who steps out of a doorway.
>
> Oh, absolutely. Actually, bicyclists should probably be walking their
> bike anywhere there are doorways opening onto the sidewalk. That
> nearer the curb thing is good courtesy, too - unless the other person
> obviously wants that line. Nearer the street means you can bail off
> the sidewalk, and it's where the gentleman is supposed to be to catch
> any flak from the street.
>
> > There have been deaths of pedestrians who
> > were killed when struck by a bicyclist moving at speed on a sidewalk.
> > The very young and the elderly and the handicapped are most at risk.
>
> That is so sad - and so unnecessary.
It's mystery why it keeps happening.
>
> (I understand from Frank's "data" that there have been deaths of
> people falling out of bed, too.)
Well, I have my mattress on the floor, just in case.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 16, 2012, 2:17:20 AM4/16/12
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On Apr 16, 1:49 am, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4c3671a6-6eee-450b-a3b1-
> 56a7c7d99...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com says...
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> In some cities in California, such as Berkeley, there are notices posted on
> some busy downtown sidewalks that bikes must be walked. This is merely
> common sense. Regardless of local or state law, pedestrians in my mind
> have the right-of-way and should be given courtesy when riding a bike on a
> sidewalk. That's the way I approach it when I ride on a sidewalk, yeild to
> all.
I don't like to yield to dogs, who are usually on a long leash. Around
here there's a wealthy community that banned bicycles even though
nobody is on sidewalk. But they walk dogs and that's not very nice, I
think. Dogs shouldn't be on sidewalks.
> In article <4c3671a6-6eee-450b-a3b1-
> 56a7c7d99...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com says...
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> >Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> >ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> >sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> >that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> >with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> >hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> >worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> >blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> >wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> >hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> >in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> >weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> >Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> >walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> >opinion.
>
> >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_Nightofth
> eLivingDead.jpg
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> >Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> >ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> >sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> >that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> >with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> >hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> >worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> >blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> >wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> >hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> >in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> >weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> >Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> >walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> >opinion.
>
> >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_Nightofth
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> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
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> In some cities in California, such as Berkeley, there are notices posted on
> some busy downtown sidewalks that bikes must be walked. This is merely
> common sense. Regardless of local or state law, pedestrians in my mind
> have the right-of-way and should be given courtesy when riding a bike on a
> sidewalk. That's the way I approach it when I ride on a sidewalk, yeild to
> all.
I don't like to yield to dogs, who are usually on a long leash. Around
here there's a wealthy community that banned bicycles even though
nobody is on sidewalk. But they walk dogs and that's not very nice, I
think. Dogs shouldn't be on sidewalks.
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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 16, 2012, 1:06:44 PM4/16/12
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On Apr 16, 11:25 am, Conscience <obama...@fraud.gov> wrote:
You are wrong. The worms eventually win over the best predators.
But can we learn our lessons or can we blame it all on Darwinism?
On Apr 16, 11:06 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Miamuh, remeber the TV program MIAMUH CODE ? boasts a variety of building specs prob distorting ur vision here.
>
> EG Miamuh is a special case among urban/suburban areas. Miamuh isnot Ohio or old LA or San Diego which is impossible.
>
> Disregarding for the moment necessity for carrying an automatic weapon, Miamuh codes are based on profit not utility giving some really wierd building areas once inhab by retirees now slums.
But good PR is part of the game:
http://www.decobike.com/
Girls in bikini, hot weather and bicycles make good PR, but reality is
different. Maybe the tourists don't try to make sense out of it, or
maybe they'll never come back. It can be heaven, it can be hell. Maybe
"safari on bike" could be a tourist attraction. Animals abound and
they are loose.
Next door is Ft Lauderdale which is has the dubious record of most
pedestrians killed in the nation. Florida itself is a land of great
danger for pedestrians, but they are not as notoriously popular as
Zimmerman and Martin. This kid never had a chance:
"Christopher Cepeda was only fourteen years old when he and four of
his friends were walking home after playing basketball. He was killed
while crossing U.S. 27, a major four-lane highway with a wide grassy
median and a posted speed limit of 65 miles per hour. As Mr. Cepeda
and his friends waited in the median to cross the road, Denise
Sottilaro suddenly changed lanes and, although she claimed to have hit
her brakes, slammed into the boy. He later died from the injuries."
The boy is said to have been texting, but I don't see that weakens the
case against the driver. Why is she changing lane while pedestrians
are around?
Moral of the story:
"Lastly, this case wrongful death case, again, also highlights the
dangers of texting while driving or crossing the road, and we urge
everyone to simply put their smart phones away until they are safely
able to focus on what they are doing."
http://www.floridainjurylawyer-blog.com/2012/02/police-are-usually-called-to.html
> On 2012-04-15 22:02:43 -0700, little turtle <@stream.il> said:
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> > On 4/15/2012 9:00 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
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> > On 4/15/2012 9:00 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> >> Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> >> ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> >> sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> >> that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> >> with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> >> hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> >> worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> >> blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> >> wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> >> hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> >> in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> >> weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> >> Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> >> walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> >> opinion.
>
> >> ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> >> sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> >> that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> >> with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> >> hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> >> worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> >> blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> >> wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> >> hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> >> in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> >> weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> >> Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> >> walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> >> opinion.
>
> >>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_Nightofthe...
>
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> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
> Man,
>
>
>
> > I don't know what you are smoking but I'd give it up before your brain
> > falls out.
>
> We certainly know who has the issue here. Darwinism will eventually win-out.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
> Man,
>
>
>
> > I don't know what you are smoking but I'd give it up before your brain
> > falls out.
>
You are wrong. The worms eventually win over the best predators.
But can we learn our lessons or can we blame it all on Darwinism?
On Apr 16, 11:06 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Miamuh, remeber the TV program MIAMUH CODE ? boasts a variety of building specs prob distorting ur vision here.
>
> EG Miamuh is a special case among urban/suburban areas. Miamuh isnot Ohio or old LA or San Diego which is impossible.
>
> Disregarding for the moment necessity for carrying an automatic weapon, Miamuh codes are based on profit not utility giving some really wierd building areas once inhab by retirees now slums.
But good PR is part of the game:
http://www.decobike.com/
Girls in bikini, hot weather and bicycles make good PR, but reality is
different. Maybe the tourists don't try to make sense out of it, or
maybe they'll never come back. It can be heaven, it can be hell. Maybe
"safari on bike" could be a tourist attraction. Animals abound and
they are loose.
Next door is Ft Lauderdale which is has the dubious record of most
pedestrians killed in the nation. Florida itself is a land of great
danger for pedestrians, but they are not as notoriously popular as
Zimmerman and Martin. This kid never had a chance:
"Christopher Cepeda was only fourteen years old when he and four of
his friends were walking home after playing basketball. He was killed
while crossing U.S. 27, a major four-lane highway with a wide grassy
median and a posted speed limit of 65 miles per hour. As Mr. Cepeda
and his friends waited in the median to cross the road, Denise
Sottilaro suddenly changed lanes and, although she claimed to have hit
her brakes, slammed into the boy. He later died from the injuries."
The boy is said to have been texting, but I don't see that weakens the
case against the driver. Why is she changing lane while pedestrians
are around?
Moral of the story:
"Lastly, this case wrongful death case, again, also highlights the
dangers of texting while driving or crossing the road, and we urge
everyone to simply put their smart phones away until they are safely
able to focus on what they are doing."
http://www.floridainjurylawyer-blog.com/2012/02/police-are-usually-called-to.html
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badgolferman
Apr 16, 2012, 9:14:28 PM4/16/12
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dbu'' wrote:
>Are you trying to bait the master crank jsb back? I hope you're
>successful, I miss the old turd, I really do. It's like not having a
>can to kick down the road anymore when it's not here to kick. :)
Remember Learning Richard? He's on my joke list and we email each
other sometimes. The guy has fallen upon hard times emotionally and
physically. I almost met up with him the last time I went to
Washington D.C. but it didn't work out. Now that was a guy that would
foam at the mouth and keep us entertained! And of course Scott in
Florida has moved on to more important things but he was the master
baiter.
>Are you trying to bait the master crank jsb back? I hope you're
>successful, I miss the old turd, I really do. It's like not having a
>can to kick down the road anymore when it's not here to kick. :)
Remember Learning Richard? He's on my joke list and we email each
other sometimes. The guy has fallen upon hard times emotionally and
physically. I almost met up with him the last time I went to
Washington D.C. but it didn't work out. Now that was a guy that would
foam at the mouth and keep us entertained! And of course Scott in
Florida has moved on to more important things but he was the master
baiter.
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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 17, 2012, 9:27:28 AM4/17/12
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On Apr 16, 1:06 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> http://www.floridainjurylawyer-blog.com/2012/02/police-are-usually-ca...
I don't expect people to make these connections, but Zimmerman had a
weapon but not a license to kill, and drivers, well cars are a weapon
and they got a license to kill.
Remember, everything is connected in the jungle, but it takes a Wise
Man to find those connections. Drive responsibly.
I don't expect people to make these connections, but Zimmerman had a
weapon but not a license to kill, and drivers, well cars are a weapon
and they got a license to kill.
Remember, everything is connected in the jungle, but it takes a Wise
Man to find those connections. Drive responsibly.
Jeff Strickland
Apr 17, 2012, 11:14:37 AM4/17/12
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"little turtle" <@stream.il> wrote in message
news:TJNir.2150$kb7....@newsfe20.iad...
> On 4/15/2012 9:00 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>> Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
>> ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
>> sharing program.
YOU RIDE YOUR BIKE ON THE SIDEWALK?
>> Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
>> ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
>> sharing program.
You f---ing scoflaw... A bicycle's operation is controlled through the same
laws that direct where motor vehicles can be operated. You are not supposed
to drive on the sidewalk. You drive on the right hand shoulder of the
roadway, observe traffic control signals and signs, must yield to
pedestrians in the same way as cars, and so on. The operation of a bicycle
on a sidewalk, such as the boardwalk at the beach, is an exeption, and as an
exception, the bikes are permitted to be present, but they still are
required to give way to the pedestrians.
(Sorry, I killfiled tibetanmonkeyman a long time ago, but every so often I
need to slap the shit out of him but never know when unless somebody else
responds to his crap first.)
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 17, 2012, 4:05:03 PM4/17/12
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roads. Survival is the supreme law of the land when bike facilities
are missing and the roads are chaotic.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 17, 2012, 4:19:09 PM4/17/12
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On Apr 17, 11:14 am, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
death. But people know better. This old lady, 84 years old, rides a
trike on sidewalk because people riding on the road get killed all the
time. That's San Diego, not Miami:
"Well, it is Southern California and nice weather for bike riding.
There are bike paths along the ocean. If you leave the Pacific
Beach area, however, you run into the freeways which surround
the neighborhood on 3 sides with the ocean on the 4th side.
I do not ride in traffic. Bikers who do are hit by cars -- not an
uncommon occurence."
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Conscience wrote:
>>Are you trying to bait the master crank jsb back?
>
>Who?
>>Are you trying to bait the master crank jsb back?
>
JoeSpareBedroom
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TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Apr 19, 2012, 9:47:41 AM4/19/12
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Incidents from the wild side while riding bike on sidewalk:
My girlfriend almost hit two cyclists while driving out of this blind
driveway, but they were riding fast, against traffic. Stupidity of the
system that forces people to ride in this area is to blame. We must
ride there all the time.
I was riding on sidewalk, but car was blocking sidewalk and I rode
momentarily on the road. Driver of little Toyota blasts the horn
unconcerned about my predicament. I don't know why idiots choose
Toyotas.
My favorite: Lady coming out of Christian school with kid blocks
sidewalk unconcerned about me waiting for her to move. It must have
being like 3 minutes and she didn't make an effort to apologize. Am I
a monkey? Where's her Christian faith?
When will cars be ticketed or towed away for blocking sidewalk? Some
of us are selfish predators that deserve punishment, but the system
puts us in direct conflict. WE SHOULD NOT RIDE ON SIDEWALK.
My girlfriend almost hit two cyclists while driving out of this blind
driveway, but they were riding fast, against traffic. Stupidity of the
system that forces people to ride in this area is to blame. We must
ride there all the time.
I was riding on sidewalk, but car was blocking sidewalk and I rode
momentarily on the road. Driver of little Toyota blasts the horn
unconcerned about my predicament. I don't know why idiots choose
Toyotas.
My favorite: Lady coming out of Christian school with kid blocks
sidewalk unconcerned about me waiting for her to move. It must have
being like 3 minutes and she didn't make an effort to apologize. Am I
a monkey? Where's her Christian faith?
When will cars be ticketed or towed away for blocking sidewalk? Some
of us are selfish predators that deserve punishment, but the system
puts us in direct conflict. WE SHOULD NOT RIDE ON SIDEWALK.
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On Apr 19, 10:13 am, Rita <rtkng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 05:55:29 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
>
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 1:26 pm, Rita <rtkng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Apr 17, 12:04 am, Rita <rtkng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Apr 16, 3:27 pm, Rita <rtkng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:16:43 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
> >> >> >> give way to a pedestrian or a dog. I stop and allow them to get by
> >> >> >> me. I am not interested in speed -- I ride slowly. I am no danger to
> >> >> >> anyone. Sometimes a pedestrian steps out of the way before I can
> >> >> >> stop -- I say thank you. I am very old -- age 82 and people can see
> >> >> >> that. Many are interested in my adult trike and ask me questions
> >> >> >> about it. It has an electric motor. There are sloping curbs on the
> >> >> >> sidewalks at intersections -- bikers ride on the sidewalks in my
> >> >> >> area and I have never seen one speeding. Lots of people walk their
> >> >> >> dogs on the sidewalks and I have no problem with that. Live and let
> >> >> >> live and get along with others by courtesy and not making judgments.
> >> >> >> Works out well for me.
>
> >> >> >On a trike you can be much slower without falling off and you don't
> >> >> >mind waiting for pedestrians and dogs. You become a true "pedestrian
> >> >> >on wheels." Time for me to go back to it and let the world fall apart.
>
> >> >> It has been so many years since I rode a two wheeler I had forgotten
> >> >> that you had to keep moving while on a three wheel trike you can slow
> >> >> to a crawl. And if you stop you need not get off.
>
> >> >> Last time I owned a two wheel bike I lived in New York City and lived
> >> >> close to Central Park, and then later in Brooklyn lived close to a
> >> >> large park there. So I could ride on bike paths.
>
> >> >> Now that I am age 82 a three wheel trike is much safer for me. I do
> >> >> have spinal stenosis that makes walking much painful. On the trike
> >> >> one bends forward and no pain. Without the trike I would not be able
> >> >> to get much exercise. I love my trike. I am not in a hurry to get
> >> >> anyplace. Luckily there are places to chain it at groceries stores,
> >> >> the library, etc. Sometimes when there are no bike racks a palm
> >> >> tree trunk works well. Palm trees are a dime a dozen in my area
> >> >> of San Diego which is called Pacific Beach.
>
> >> >Maybe I should check out that area. ;)
>
> >> The bike itself is not an electric trike -- it is a Tristar
> >> and only one speed but that doesn't matter since I
> >> had an electric motor put on it. There is a guy who
> >> specializes in converting bikes to electric. He does a fine
> >> job and if there are any problems comes and gets the trike
> >> and fixes them.
>
> >> The big basket over the two rear wheels hold a lot of
> >> groceries -- three big paper bags filled to the brim.
>
> >Thank you, Rita. It sounds like Paradise to me, but do you have a long
> >path by the beach?
>
> Yes, there is a paved path for a couple of miles along the ocean in
> my area. There is a map you can get of how bike paths connect
> throughout the city. You may have to ride on streets for a
> distance to get from one bike path to another. And sometimes
> it is quite roundabout to avoid the freeways. I ride only in my
> own area where I don't have to get out on any streets. Younger
> riders than me don't mind getting into some traffic. I avoid it.
>
> Here is a photo of a bike path along the ocean close to my home:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/PacificBeach...
It sounds like you can have space for a slow bike or trike, but you
would run into trouble elsewhere.
Just coming here now. I'm walking my slow bike across the street and
the lady driver is blocking my path and looking the other way. If I
take take a step in front of her, I'm taking a gamble. So I knock on
her hood to make sure she sees me and proceed. Then she calls me back,
"Sir, why you do that?" I go, "Well see, I only got this one life and
I want to make sure you see me. You want to call the police?" The
argument goes back and forth and she says as partying shot, "Well, I
hope you have a nice day, sir." The irony is that I need it with
drivers like hers.
We have many problems presented in the above paragraph:
1- Drivers are routinely blocking pedestrian crossings,
2- They are incapable of being polite and saying "sorry,"
3- They are looking for trouble.
But I'm not looking for trouble. I'm trying to have to a nice day with
my new chihuahua. His name is Tequila.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EfL9MSwPQaA/TB80vV7gFaI/AAAAAAAAAY0/bN2b7Lqv568/s1600/chihuahua.JPG
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 05:55:29 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
>
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 1:26 pm, Rita <rtkng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:29:42 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Apr 17, 12:04 am, Rita <rtkng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Apr 16, 3:27 pm, Rita <rtkng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:16:43 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> >> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Apr 16, 1:49 am, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> In article <4c3671a6-6eee-450b-a3b1-
> >> >> >> >> 56a7c7d99...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> >> >> nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com says...
>
> >> >> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Apr 16, 1:49 am, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> In article <4c3671a6-6eee-450b-a3b1-
> >> >> >> >> 56a7c7d99...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> >> >> nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com says...
>
> >> >> >> >> >Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> >> >> >> >> >ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> >> >> >> >> >ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> >> >> >> >> >sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> >> >> >> >> >that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> >> >> >> >> >with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> >> >> >> >> >hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> >> >> >> >> >worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> >> >> >> >> >blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> >> >> >> >> >wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> >> >> >> >> >hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> >> >> >> >> >in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> >> >> >> >> >weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> >> >> >> >> >Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> >> >> >> >> >walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> >> >> >> >> >opinion.
>
> >> >> >> >> >that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> >> >> >> >> >with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> >> >> >> >> >hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> >> >> >> >> >worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> >> >> >> >> >blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> >> >> >> >> >wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> >> >> >> >> >hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> >> >> >> >> >in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> >> >> >> >> >weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> >> >> >> >> >Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> >> >> >> >> >walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> >> >> >> >> >opinion.
>
> >> >> >> >> >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_Nightofth
> >> >> >> >> eLivingDead.jpg
>
> >> >> >> >> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> >> >> >> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >> >> >> >> In some cities in California, such as Berkeley, there are notices posted on
> >> >> >> >> some busy downtown sidewalks that bikes must be walked. This is merely
> >> >> >> >> common sense. Regardless of local or state law, pedestrians in my mind
> >> >> >> >> have the right-of-way and should be given courtesy when riding a bike on a
> >> >> >> >> sidewalk. That's the way I approach it when I ride on a sidewalk, yeild to
> >> >> >> >> all.
>
> >> >> >> >I don't like to yield to dogs, who are usually on a long leash. Around
> >> >> >> >here there's a wealthy community that banned bicycles even though
> >> >> >> >nobody is on sidewalk. But they walk dogs and that's not very nice, I
> >> >> >> >think. Dogs shouldn't be on sidewalks.
>
> >> >> >> I ride my adult trike on the sidewalks in my neighborhood and I always
> >> >> >> >> eLivingDead.jpg
>
> >> >> >> >> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> >> >> >> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >> >> >> >> In some cities in California, such as Berkeley, there are notices posted on
> >> >> >> >> some busy downtown sidewalks that bikes must be walked. This is merely
> >> >> >> >> common sense. Regardless of local or state law, pedestrians in my mind
> >> >> >> >> have the right-of-way and should be given courtesy when riding a bike on a
> >> >> >> >> sidewalk. That's the way I approach it when I ride on a sidewalk, yeild to
> >> >> >> >> all.
>
> >> >> >> >I don't like to yield to dogs, who are usually on a long leash. Around
> >> >> >> >here there's a wealthy community that banned bicycles even though
> >> >> >> >nobody is on sidewalk. But they walk dogs and that's not very nice, I
> >> >> >> >think. Dogs shouldn't be on sidewalks.
>
> >> >> >> give way to a pedestrian or a dog. I stop and allow them to get by
> >> >> >> me. I am not interested in speed -- I ride slowly. I am no danger to
> >> >> >> anyone. Sometimes a pedestrian steps out of the way before I can
> >> >> >> stop -- I say thank you. I am very old -- age 82 and people can see
> >> >> >> that. Many are interested in my adult trike and ask me questions
> >> >> >> about it. It has an electric motor. There are sloping curbs on the
> >> >> >> sidewalks at intersections -- bikers ride on the sidewalks in my
> >> >> >> area and I have never seen one speeding. Lots of people walk their
> >> >> >> dogs on the sidewalks and I have no problem with that. Live and let
> >> >> >> live and get along with others by courtesy and not making judgments.
> >> >> >> Works out well for me.
>
> >> >> >On a trike you can be much slower without falling off and you don't
> >> >> >mind waiting for pedestrians and dogs. You become a true "pedestrian
> >> >> >on wheels." Time for me to go back to it and let the world fall apart.
>
> >> >> It has been so many years since I rode a two wheeler I had forgotten
> >> >> that you had to keep moving while on a three wheel trike you can slow
> >> >> to a crawl. And if you stop you need not get off.
>
> >> >> Last time I owned a two wheel bike I lived in New York City and lived
> >> >> close to Central Park, and then later in Brooklyn lived close to a
> >> >> large park there. So I could ride on bike paths.
>
> >> >> Now that I am age 82 a three wheel trike is much safer for me. I do
> >> >> have spinal stenosis that makes walking much painful. On the trike
> >> >> one bends forward and no pain. Without the trike I would not be able
> >> >> to get much exercise. I love my trike. I am not in a hurry to get
> >> >> anyplace. Luckily there are places to chain it at groceries stores,
> >> >> the library, etc. Sometimes when there are no bike racks a palm
> >> >> tree trunk works well. Palm trees are a dime a dozen in my area
> >> >> of San Diego which is called Pacific Beach.
>
> >> >Maybe I should check out that area. ;)
>
> >> Well, it is Southern California and nice weather for bike riding.
> >> There are bike paths along the ocean. If you leave the Pacific
> >> Beach area, however, you run into the freeways which surround
> >> the neighborhood on 3 sides with the ocean on the 4th side.
> >> I do not ride in traffic. Bikers who do are hit by cars -- not an
> >> uncommon occurence.
>
> >> >What kind of trike you got? How many speeds?
> >> Well, it is Southern California and nice weather for bike riding.
> >> There are bike paths along the ocean. If you leave the Pacific
> >> Beach area, however, you run into the freeways which surround
> >> the neighborhood on 3 sides with the ocean on the 4th side.
> >> I do not ride in traffic. Bikers who do are hit by cars -- not an
> >> uncommon occurence.
>
>
> >> The bike itself is not an electric trike -- it is a Tristar
> >> and only one speed but that doesn't matter since I
> >> had an electric motor put on it. There is a guy who
> >> specializes in converting bikes to electric. He does a fine
> >> job and if there are any problems comes and gets the trike
> >> and fixes them.
>
> >> The big basket over the two rear wheels hold a lot of
> >> groceries -- three big paper bags filled to the brim.
>
> >Thank you, Rita. It sounds like Paradise to me, but do you have a long
> >path by the beach?
>
> Yes, there is a paved path for a couple of miles along the ocean in
> my area. There is a map you can get of how bike paths connect
> throughout the city. You may have to ride on streets for a
> distance to get from one bike path to another. And sometimes
> it is quite roundabout to avoid the freeways. I ride only in my
> own area where I don't have to get out on any streets. Younger
> riders than me don't mind getting into some traffic. I avoid it.
>
> Here is a photo of a bike path along the ocean close to my home:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/PacificBeach...
It sounds like you can have space for a slow bike or trike, but you
would run into trouble elsewhere.
Just coming here now. I'm walking my slow bike across the street and
the lady driver is blocking my path and looking the other way. If I
take take a step in front of her, I'm taking a gamble. So I knock on
her hood to make sure she sees me and proceed. Then she calls me back,
"Sir, why you do that?" I go, "Well see, I only got this one life and
I want to make sure you see me. You want to call the police?" The
argument goes back and forth and she says as partying shot, "Well, I
hope you have a nice day, sir." The irony is that I need it with
drivers like hers.
We have many problems presented in the above paragraph:
1- Drivers are routinely blocking pedestrian crossings,
2- They are incapable of being polite and saying "sorry,"
3- They are looking for trouble.
But I'm not looking for trouble. I'm trying to have to a nice day with
my new chihuahua. His name is Tequila.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EfL9MSwPQaA/TB80vV7gFaI/AAAAAAAAAY0/bN2b7Lqv568/s1600/chihuahua.JPG
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No wonder, LR was clearly a few cards short...
On Apr 16, 9:14 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:14 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
May 1, 2012, 3:05:33 PM5/1/12
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On Apr 15, 9:00 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
It is said "happiness is a beach cruiser," but not when you can bump
into pedestrians. I hit my first pedestrian today as I rode down the
sidewalk, and the pedestrian came out of nowhere. Nothing really
serious but she was visibly shaken, and I offered no appologies since
that's the only place for me to ride a bike.
I remember saying something about us "being on top of each other,"
which I hope our masters someday will remember. When you mix different
species together sooner or later something happens. It's not a happy
cohabitation. It actually leads to conflicts and accidents.
Perhaps our engineers are stupid and don't notice these things, but
I'm here to remind them. I'm the first philosopher not to be "up in
clouds" and rather offer practical solutions.
I vaguely mentioned my campaign "Welcome to the Jungle" to the
affected lady but I don't think she registered. Perhaps she's not
lucky as you are. And what about if it had been an old lady? I just
want to dismiss that thought.
TO BE CONTINUED --OR NOT.
<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> opinion.
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Zombies_Nightofthe...
> Don't ask me about the morality of it. It's all about survival. I must
> ride on sidewalk like everybody else in the middle of this bike
> sharing program. I don't know if it's that way in Paris or London, but
> that's reality here. I figure that on average I have five near misses
> with pedestrians and two with cars every single outing. Today I almost
> hit a child that must have been daydreaming. Elderly people really
> worry me since they can hardly afford to have a broken bone. Couples
> blocking my way patiently step aside. Some give me a dirty look. I
> wished they understood I don't want to be there. Cars, on the other
> hand, just ignore me when they go in/out of driveways as if they lived
> in a bubble. We are all taking gambles, and the odds are against the
> weak. Is everybody willing participant?
>
> Is there a solution or are people zombies? Do we have the living dead
> walking among us? That's a scary thought. But that's only my humble
> opinion.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
It is said "happiness is a beach cruiser," but not when you can bump
into pedestrians. I hit my first pedestrian today as I rode down the
sidewalk, and the pedestrian came out of nowhere. Nothing really
serious but she was visibly shaken, and I offered no appologies since
that's the only place for me to ride a bike.
I remember saying something about us "being on top of each other,"
which I hope our masters someday will remember. When you mix different
species together sooner or later something happens. It's not a happy
cohabitation. It actually leads to conflicts and accidents.
Perhaps our engineers are stupid and don't notice these things, but
I'm here to remind them. I'm the first philosopher not to be "up in
clouds" and rather offer practical solutions.
I vaguely mentioned my campaign "Welcome to the Jungle" to the
affected lady but I don't think she registered. Perhaps she's not
lucky as you are. And what about if it had been an old lady? I just
want to dismiss that thought.
TO BE CONTINUED --OR NOT.
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May 9, 2012, 10:58:58 AM5/9/12
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On May 8, 11:36 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:38:09 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 7, 8:51 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 7 May 2012 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > On May 1, 8:53 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On 05-01-2012 15:18, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Philosopher wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > I don't know the specifics of this street, but it sounds like the bike
> >> >> >> >> >> > lanes we have around here and don't connect anywhere. They are perhaps
>
> >> >> >> >> >> I had to see a dermatologist, and all of them are on the opposite side
> >> >> >> >> >> of the city. GoogleMaps' bicycling route had FORTY turn/merge/etc. points.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Auto instructions, nine.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Heck with it, I'll take the auto route.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> I got rid of my car two years ago, and I've been all over the county,
> >> >> >> >> >> Seems I make the same decision every time I go anywhere. The only time
> >> >> >> >> >> I didn't, I was fifteen minutes late to an important meeting.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> On the bright side, there seems to be far fewer "evil idiot" motorists
> >> >> >> >> >> than some folks would have us believe. Yes, there are a noticeable
> >> >> >> >> >> number of idiots, but today is the only time in these two years
> >> >> >> >> >> that I encountered one who was evil. (And "evil" is an exaggeration--
> >> >> >> >> >> he just laid on his horn for about ten seconds because I was blocking
> >> >> >> >> >> almost five percent of HIS road.)
>
> >> >> >> >> >> I also spent two years without a car in San Diego--with a thirteen-mile
> >> >> >> >> >> commute to work--and never encountered an attitude problem either.
>
> >> >> >> >> > This dilemma of evil/idiot is always nagging me. If we let them get
> >> >> >> >> > away with "idiot," who's evil then? I don't think anyone can be more
> >> >> >> >> > evil than a driver harassing a cyclist that occupies 5% of "his" road,
> >> >> >> >> > but I find them with too much frequency. I think they tend to spoil
> >> >> >> >> > every trip that I do on the road even though they represent a small
> >> >> >> >> > minority. They try to intimidate or terrorize cyclists, so they may
> >> >> >> >> > qualify for that title. Just that they are terrorists without a cause.
>
> >> >> >> >> IMHO even words is the monkey on a bicycle who runs into a pedestrian,
> >> >> >> >> on a *sidewalk*, and refuses even to apologize on the hypocritical
> >> >> >> >> grounds that he is himself terrorized by motor vehicle drivers.
> >> >> >> >> A waste of skin, some might say. Lower than the fleas that infest his
> >> >> >> >> hide.
>
> >> >> >> > They should apologize to me. I'm smarter than them in using a bike
> >> >> >> > while I go around looking for support for a solution, even if it means
> >> >> >> > NO BIKES ON SIDEWALK. They are so pitiful that they don't even notice
> >> >> >> > the sidewalks in disrepair while a monkey on a bike must do their job.
> >> >> >> > Actually I think we should have a few cyclists looking for broken and
> >> >> >> > dangerous sidewalks. Some of them can be deadly to the handicapped
> >> >> >> > and nobody ever care. Smart elderly people on a trike are particularly
> >> >> >> > at risk of taking advantage of the wheel.
>
> >> >> >> The sidewalk is provided for pedestrians; on it they have the absolute
> >> >> >> right of way. If you run into a pedestrian on the sidewalk you are, by
> >> >> >> definition, at fault, and should at the *very* least humbly and
> >> >> >> sincerely beg for pardon. Were it up to me I wouldn't think a few days
> >> >> >> in jail would be out of line.
>
> >> >> >> Obey the golden rule: do unto pedestrians as you would have drivers do
> >> >> >> unto you.
>
> >> >> > I apologize to drivers when I make a stupid mistake. She came from
> >> >> > behind a wall without looking, and if I apologized I would share some
> >> >> > of the blame. I was riding nice and slow, so I share no blame.
>
> >> >> > We are two idiots that bumped into each other in the great scheme of
> >> >> > things.
>
> >> >> If you would not have bumped into her had you been a pedestrian, you are
> >> >> at fault. If you did more damage than you would have had you been a
> >> >> pedestrian, you are at fault. If you were anything like a decent human
> >> >> being you would have apologized in any case.
>
> >> >But we are not human beings around here. We are all animals fighting
> >> >for space and survival.
>
> >> Of course you are an animal - a mammal, to be specific. But that is no
> >> excuse for riding a bicycle on the foot path.
> >> --
> >> John B.
>
> >But that's no excuse to let the big animals run the place. Pedestrians
> >and cyclists are pretty much on equal terms. It's "dog eat dog."
>
> What gives your "right" to ride your bicycle on the foot path
> constructed for pedestrians? Or are you just like the big black SUV
> driver forcing your way through traffic (but of course in a much
> smaller manner).
>
> You are just as arrogant in your manner as the SUV people, forcing
> those old ladies to run for cover when you whiz by on your bike.
>
> Nope, no difference. One arrogant arse bitching about the bikes and
> another bitching about the pedestrians.
>
> --
> John B.
No, there's a big difference: I acknowledge we don't belong there. SUV
drivers must acknowledge they belong in the African savannah, and then
we can proceed to civilization.
> On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:38:09 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
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> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 7, 8:51 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 7 May 2012 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 7, 10:57 am, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> >> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> >> > On May 6, 5:57 pm, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> >> >> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> >> >> > On May 3, 3:49 pm, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> >> >> >> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> >> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> >> >> >> > On May 1, 8:53 pm, Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On 05-01-2012 15:18, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Philosopher wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > I don't know the specifics of this street, but it sounds like the bike
> >> >> >> >> >> > lanes we have around here and don't connect anywhere. They are perhaps
>
> >> >> >> >> >> I had to see a dermatologist, and all of them are on the opposite side
> >> >> >> >> >> of the city. GoogleMaps' bicycling route had FORTY turn/merge/etc. points.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Auto instructions, nine.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> Heck with it, I'll take the auto route.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> I got rid of my car two years ago, and I've been all over the county,
> >> >> >> >> >> Seems I make the same decision every time I go anywhere. The only time
> >> >> >> >> >> I didn't, I was fifteen minutes late to an important meeting.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> On the bright side, there seems to be far fewer "evil idiot" motorists
> >> >> >> >> >> than some folks would have us believe. Yes, there are a noticeable
> >> >> >> >> >> number of idiots, but today is the only time in these two years
> >> >> >> >> >> that I encountered one who was evil. (And "evil" is an exaggeration--
> >> >> >> >> >> he just laid on his horn for about ten seconds because I was blocking
> >> >> >> >> >> almost five percent of HIS road.)
>
> >> >> >> >> >> I also spent two years without a car in San Diego--with a thirteen-mile
> >> >> >> >> >> commute to work--and never encountered an attitude problem either.
>
> >> >> >> >> > This dilemma of evil/idiot is always nagging me. If we let them get
> >> >> >> >> > away with "idiot," who's evil then? I don't think anyone can be more
> >> >> >> >> > evil than a driver harassing a cyclist that occupies 5% of "his" road,
> >> >> >> >> > but I find them with too much frequency. I think they tend to spoil
> >> >> >> >> > every trip that I do on the road even though they represent a small
> >> >> >> >> > minority. They try to intimidate or terrorize cyclists, so they may
> >> >> >> >> > qualify for that title. Just that they are terrorists without a cause.
>
> >> >> >> >> IMHO even words is the monkey on a bicycle who runs into a pedestrian,
> >> >> >> >> on a *sidewalk*, and refuses even to apologize on the hypocritical
> >> >> >> >> grounds that he is himself terrorized by motor vehicle drivers.
> >> >> >> >> A waste of skin, some might say. Lower than the fleas that infest his
> >> >> >> >> hide.
>
> >> >> >> > They should apologize to me. I'm smarter than them in using a bike
> >> >> >> > while I go around looking for support for a solution, even if it means
> >> >> >> > NO BIKES ON SIDEWALK. They are so pitiful that they don't even notice
> >> >> >> > the sidewalks in disrepair while a monkey on a bike must do their job.
> >> >> >> > Actually I think we should have a few cyclists looking for broken and
> >> >> >> > dangerous sidewalks. Some of them can be deadly to the handicapped
> >> >> >> > and nobody ever care. Smart elderly people on a trike are particularly
> >> >> >> > at risk of taking advantage of the wheel.
>
> >> >> >> The sidewalk is provided for pedestrians; on it they have the absolute
> >> >> >> right of way. If you run into a pedestrian on the sidewalk you are, by
> >> >> >> definition, at fault, and should at the *very* least humbly and
> >> >> >> sincerely beg for pardon. Were it up to me I wouldn't think a few days
> >> >> >> in jail would be out of line.
>
> >> >> >> Obey the golden rule: do unto pedestrians as you would have drivers do
> >> >> >> unto you.
>
> >> >> > I apologize to drivers when I make a stupid mistake. She came from
> >> >> > behind a wall without looking, and if I apologized I would share some
> >> >> > of the blame. I was riding nice and slow, so I share no blame.
>
> >> >> > We are two idiots that bumped into each other in the great scheme of
> >> >> > things.
>
> >> >> If you would not have bumped into her had you been a pedestrian, you are
> >> >> at fault. If you did more damage than you would have had you been a
> >> >> pedestrian, you are at fault. If you were anything like a decent human
> >> >> being you would have apologized in any case.
>
> >> >But we are not human beings around here. We are all animals fighting
> >> >for space and survival.
>
> >> Of course you are an animal - a mammal, to be specific. But that is no
> >> excuse for riding a bicycle on the foot path.
> >> --
> >> John B.
>
> >But that's no excuse to let the big animals run the place. Pedestrians
> >and cyclists are pretty much on equal terms. It's "dog eat dog."
>
> What gives your "right" to ride your bicycle on the foot path
> constructed for pedestrians? Or are you just like the big black SUV
> driver forcing your way through traffic (but of course in a much
> smaller manner).
>
> You are just as arrogant in your manner as the SUV people, forcing
> those old ladies to run for cover when you whiz by on your bike.
>
> Nope, no difference. One arrogant arse bitching about the bikes and
> another bitching about the pedestrians.
>
> --
> John B.
No, there's a big difference: I acknowledge we don't belong there. SUV
drivers must acknowledge they belong in the African savannah, and then
we can proceed to civilization.
TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
May 9, 2012, 11:04:15 AM5/9/12
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On May 8, 11:36 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:42:22 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach
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> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 7, 11:24 pm, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> > On May 7, 10:57 am, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> > On May 7, 10:57 am, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
> >> >> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> >> > On May 6, 5:57 pm, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> > On May 6, 5:57 pm, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
> >> >> >> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> >> >> > On May 3, 3:49 pm, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> > On May 3, 3:49 pm, Radey Shouman <shou...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
> >> I guess.
>
> >Guess what would happen if you give a bunch a bananas to a bunch of
> >monkeys?
>
> >They would fight because resources are limited. In this case the
> >sidewalk is the limited resource. It's our "masters" fault. Look no
> >further.
>
> Our "Master's fault". With an attitude like that. I am assuming that
> your mother still spoon feeds you as obviously it would be an unfair
> burden on you to actually reach out a hand and do something for your
> self.
Sorry, we DO have masters. Whatever we do is their design. They use
ADVERTISING and INTIMIDATION to have us driving trucks not bicyles. We
are different species on top of each other, fighting for survival and
space.
A good master doesn't mix rats and mice.
hachiroku
May 14, 2012, 10:39:10 PM5/14/12
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No. Why do bicyclists threaten me in the road?
John David Galt
May 15, 2012, 4:22:19 PM5/15/12
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On 2012-05-14 19:39, hachiroku wrote:
> No. Why do bicyclists threaten me in the road?
Probably because most bikes are made with handlebars so low that they force the
> No. Why do bicyclists threaten me in the road?
rider to look down instead of forward. This needs to be banned as unsafe.
hachiroku
May 15, 2012, 8:39:20 PM5/15/12
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(I asked John Galt this...Google him (PS: NOT the author! ;) )
Tom $herman (-_-)
May 20, 2012, 12:36:48 PM5/20/12
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And most drop-bar road bike riders are on the hoods in urban areas,
not on the drops.
But don't let reality get in the way of your bias.
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W
Post Free or Die!
Learning Richard
Jan 19, 2014, 4:18:48 AM1/19/14
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On Monday, April 30, 2012 1:29:02 PM UTC-4, Mark wrote:
> No wonder, LR was clearly a few cards short...
>
Mark you're still the same immature brat that I always remembered. You and DBU should start dating.
> No wonder, LR was clearly a few cards short...
>
On Monday, April 16, 2012 9:14:28 PM UTC-4, badgolferman wrote:
> dbu'' wrote:
>
> >Are you trying to bait the master crank jsb back? I hope you're
> >successful, I miss the old turd, I really do. It's like not having a
> >can to kick down the road anymore when it's not here to kick. :)
I hate it when people set their posts to delete -- its so cowardly, its like poking someone in the ear, then hiding behind a bunch of nerds and girls in elementary school at lunch.
> dbu'' wrote:
>
> >Are you trying to bait the master crank jsb back? I hope you're
> >successful, I miss the old turd, I really do. It's like not having a
> >can to kick down the road anymore when it's not here to kick. :)
Hey let's merge DBU and Mark... the perfect combination of dunce, coward, and dittoheaded ignorance!
>
>
>
> Remember Learning Richard? He's on my joke list and we email each
> other sometimes. The guy has fallen upon hard times emotionally and
> physically.
I didn't fall on hard times physically, hard times fell on me. I had a rare and aggressive form of cancer in my right hip, and I had to get a hemipelvectomy, or amputation of my right leg plus part of my pelvis, to remove the cancer.
>
>
> Remember Learning Richard? He's on my joke list and we email each
> other sometimes. The guy has fallen upon hard times emotionally and
> physically.
Emotional hard times? Well, finding out that you have a 50% chance of surviving five years when you just got finished discussing a Barbie Dream House with your six year old daughter -- yeah that does kind of suck. Then there's the rest of it -- the surgery, and the six brutal rounds of chemotherapy which almost took my life in the end. I was so mad that I fought the cancer back for almost five years now so I'm just about out of the danger zone -- where the rest of us poor sods are now, except I do it with one leg now.
> I almost met up with him the last time I went to
> Washington D.C. but it didn't work out.
> Now that was a guy that would
> foam at the mouth and keep us entertained! And of course Scott in
> Florida has moved on to more important things but he was the master
> baiter.
I came here to discuss the merits of putting an auto. transmission into a 1991 Celica ST. Friend is letting me buy it for cheap... but with the whole one leg thing, I can only drive an automatic without mods. I can easily operate gas and brake, but throwing the clutch in just seems impossible to do with any reasonable grace.
-- Richard
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