{OT) Google previews Chrome open source operating system
Fatter Than Ever Moe
time now. I don't trust moving parts, the hard drive in our computers
is like using a Victrola to listen to music, it works but there has got
to be a better way. Why why chy didn't I buy google when it went
public? I think it was around 80 bucks a share.
Anyway here's an update on the Google OS,
"Mr Pichai said the system was based around speed, simplicity and security.
He showed it booting up in seven seconds.
"We're working very, very, very hard to make that time shorter," he
said. "We want Google Chrome OS to be blazingly fast."
He said they wanted it to be like a television, where a computer could
be switched on and instantly running and connected to the web.
Google has been able to boost the speed of the system by designing it
for specific hardware. The firm said that it would only run on computers
using "solid state drives" instead of traditional hard drives.
In addition, the firm has been talking to hardware manufacturers to
specify which components to include on finished machines."
This means that the company could "optimise" the code to run as quickly
as possible, said Mr Pichai.
Read it all at,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8369611.stm
or google it for more information
badgolferman
Solid state drives are not necessarily better than the normal ones. In
many cases their seek and access times are slower. Reliability is not
a given either.
I understand the Google Chrome OS will be all web-based applications.
I'm not entirely on-board with that.
jor
Reminds me of the mid 90s when standalone applications were the norm
and the www was just starting to take off. Netscape was gaining in
popularity and people were getting on line by the droves. Bill Gates
saw the writing on the wall and turned MS in that direction almost
overnight, late but not too late. This could be another time like that.
Maybe the days of the dedicated OS and the dedicated Office suite are
numbered. If there's anyone that can change it up, it's the Google
guys. Look at what they've done already! Whatever happens, it's great
to see real innovation occurring.
jor
Hachiroku
>> This means that the company could "optimise" the code to run as quickly
>> as possible, said Mr Pichai.
>> Read it all at,
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8369611.stm
>> or google it for more information
>
> I wish them well, but......I think it's a dead horse already. --
The Google page describing Chrome says it is a "new windowing system
riding on a Linux kernel..."
Linux, when it boots, loads a host of drivers, and, more importantly, the
security measures Linux us noted for. If they're getting it to load in 7
seconds...
Now, I can see where they would be getting together with manufacturers to
sort out hardware to reduce any driver searches Linux does when it boots.
In effect, this is what Apple has done with OS X. "If you vant to make
hardvare for OS X, you VILL do it zhis vay!" It eleiminates a lot of the
headaches associated with Linux, and makes a level playing field.
Since Apple came out with OS X there are a lot more people writing
viruses for it. If Chrome is anything like traditional Linux or OS X and
only loads in 7 seconds, there can't e a lot of security involved.
I would like to try it, but they are making it (er, 'tuning' it) for
specific hardware, ie, "netbooks" in order to speed up boot times. Like
the release says, they want to make it like turning on your TV and be up
and running surfing the web and checking e mail in no time flat.
I can wait 45-60 seconds, thanks...
Hachiroku
>> This means that the company could "optimise" the code to run as quickly
>> as possible, said Mr Pichai.
>> Read it all at,
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8369611.stm
>> or google it for more information
>
> Reminds me of the mid 90s when standalone applications were the norm and
> the www was just starting to take off. Netscape was gaining in
> popularity and people were getting on line by the droves. Bill Gates saw
> the writing on the wall and turned MS in that direction almost
> overnight, late but not too late. This could be another time like that.
> Maybe the days of the dedicated OS and the dedicated Office suite are
> numbered. If there's anyone that can change it up, it's the Google guys.
> Look at what they've done already! Whatever happens, it's great to see
> real innovation occurring.
> jor
There has been a lot of talk about 'distributed applications' in the past
few years, and some places are using them, but when it comes to an app
like MS Office, the nasty little licensing detail pops up. They want to
make sure they collect the licensing fees, and a distributed application
makes that harder.
However, being Open Source, Chrome would do well to make use of a GNU
Public licensed app like Open Office, although these guys don't have the
staff of MS and it takes time, effort and $$$ to put together a
distributed app. I use one whenever I have to re-up my certs for Dell,
it's a web-based app that costs Dell a pretty good sum to license!
Hachiroku ハチロク
> In article <he71v8$b9i$3...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Mine boots, (that is when I do a warm ((or cold)) boot, rare) in about 60
> seconds, so it's not a problem.
>
> The only virus I've had in the past 25 years using Apple computers was
> brought in on a 3.5 inch floppy a number of years ago, maybe 15 or so. It
> was easy to get rid of and did no harm. I have not had any virus since.
> I do have ClamXav and another, but never use it, too much of a bother. I
> am always in stealth mode here too. With my XP machine I just do not
> upload anything unless I positively know where it's coming from. I've not
> had a problem with it yet either and I don't use any virus checker with
> XP. They seem to just drag down the system and cause other problems. So
> I don't use virus tools. Just me I guess.
>
> Cheers
I do have a virus checker, and it is active when I'm on the web, but I
have the application checker turned off. If I'm not getting a virus from
the web, I'm not getting it from anywhere.
Tegger
>
> Reminds me of the mid 90s when standalone applications were the norm
> and the www was just starting to take off. Netscape was gaining in
> popularity and people were getting on line by the droves. Bill Gates
> saw the writing on the wall and turned MS in that direction almost
> overnight, late but not too late.
Microsoft's opportunity came when Netscape started trying to get people to
pay $45 (or something like that) for what they'd previously been giving
away for free. MS simply copied the "free" idea and were off to the races.
Netscape eventually realized their error and quashed the $45 charge, but by
then it was too late.
Had Netscape not made that mistake, I think MS might have had a lot harder
time of it. In my case, I got pissed off at Netscape and downloaded IE in
order to get away from the idea of having to pay money for previously free
stuff. It's come full-circle since then though. I've been back to
Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox for ten years now...
--
Tegger
Tegger
news:cfKdnaqcKsaZqZrW...@giganews.com:
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>
> I currently use Firefox as my main browser. Safari is no 2 at least
> for the moment. Sometimes I use both for different reasons and at the
> same time. Opra, Explorer, Camino, NS, firebird are all down the
> list.
Interesting Wiki page on exactly what browsers use what "engines":
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers>
Your choices, by engine:
Gecko-based:
Netscape
Firefox (Firebird)
Camino
Webkit-based:
Safari
Presto-based:
Opera
Trident-based (Trident is a Microsoft product):
Internet Explorer
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Tegger
in2dadark
> dbu` <nos...@nobama.com.invalid> wrote innews:cfKdnaqcKsaZqZrW...@giganews.com:
I have NO idea what you guys are taling about.
dr_jeff
Then ignore the thread.
Franking, I am not sure that those guys know what they are talking about
either.
in2dadark
> In article <4LadnZRxWM4x7pXWnZ2dnUVZ_gBi4...@giganews.com>,
> frank, LOL.
>
> Jeffy, you a little tipsy? Kids shouldn't be drinking adult beverages.
> Tell the folks you'll be late for din-din tonight, but have some sort of
> story why you're late again. I'm sure they'll be pleased you didn't
> have a girl-friend up there in your room with ya, LOL...You didn't have
> one up there did ya??
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Franking? He's a doctor so I think he should know the proper dosage.
Myself, I type even better when I'm a little tipsy. But I can drink
all day and still not know WTF they're talking about. :0)
Tegger
news:c42c14f0-89b9-43fb...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
>
> Franking? He's a doctor so I think he should know the proper dosage.
You may be thinking of Al Franken, a left-wing comedian. The name may be
similar, but I assure you he is no doctor.
>
> Myself, I type even better when I'm a little tipsy. But I can drink
> all day and still not know WTF they're talking about. :0)
>
When I'm drinking, I become such a deeply profound, intelligent and fine
writer that I amaze myself. Jean Paul Sartre had nothing on me, and nobody
could understand him either.
--
Tegger
Hachiroku ハチロク
>> Myself, I type even better when I'm a little tipsy. But I can drink all
>> day and still not know WTF they're talking about. :0)
>>
>>
>
> When I'm drinking, I become such a deeply profound, intelligent and fine
> writer that I amaze myself. Jean Paul Sartre had nothing on me, and nobody
> could understand him either.
LOL!
Same with me, when I used to smoke dope...