1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so on this car.
Hummm.. Weird.. If you can't get to the adjuster, I'd probably try whacking the drums with a hammer to see if the shoes will pop loose from against the drums enough to slide off. They are probably down in a wear groove or something. The shoes need to clear the unworn drum areas.
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 19:39:39 -0700, nm5k wrote: > Hummm.. Weird.. If you can't get to the adjuster, I'd probably try > whacking the drums with a hammer to see if the shoes will pop loose from > against the drums enough to slide off. They are probably down in a wear > groove or something. The shoes need to clear the unworn drum areas.
Yeah, i tried that.
Actually, it was good that it didn't work, because when I checked the new drums, they don't have studs in them!!
>> Hummm.. Weird.. If you can't get to the adjuster, I'd probably try >> whacking the drums with a hammer to see if the shoes will pop loose from >> against the drums enough to slide off. They are probably down in a wear >> groove or something. The shoes need to clear the unworn drum areas.
> Yeah, i tried that.
> Actually, it was good that it didn't work, because when I checked the new > drums, they don't have studs in them!!
Here's a video for a 99 Mazda Protege looks like the adjuster is at the top. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RxOKFAuhg8 I'd be looking up there for a rubber plug, I seen some cars with metal knock outs which you "knock out" and replace with a rubber plug. If you are lucky the drum will have threaded holes and you can use bolts as a "puller" or in this case a "pusher" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po-WXqIKjHQ&feature=related Lots more video of course. See if you can find one that comes close to what you have... good luck, have fun.
> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! The > manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put the > spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the > retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas > there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so > on this car.
"stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes that will force the drum off the hub?
or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the drums can't be re-used anyway.
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote: > On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! >> The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put >> the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the >> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas >> there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so >> on this car.
> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes that > will force the drum off the hub?
> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in > grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the drums > can't be re-used anyway.
I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>> On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >>> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! >>> The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put >>> the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
>>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the >>> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas >>> there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so >>> on this car.
>> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes that >> will force the drum off the hub?
>> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in >> grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the drums >> can't be re-used anyway.
> I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.
Are the factory flat head screws still attaching them to the hub?
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:09:41 +0000, Brent wrote: > On 2011-04-11, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= > <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>>> On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >>>> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! >>>> The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to >>>> put the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
>>>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the >>>> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On >>>> Toyotas there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, >>>> but not so on this car.
>>> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes >>> that will force the drum off the hub?
>>> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in >>> grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the >>> drums can't be re-used anyway.
>> I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.
> Are the factory flat head screws still attaching them to the hub?
Hmmm... not that I am aware of.
I had them off a few years ago to do an inspection, and all I remember is moving a spring stop, then moving the lever for the parking brake out of the way, and then sliding the drums off.
> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! The > manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put the > spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the > retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas > there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so > on this car.
I would think that there is a plug somewhere on the backing plate to access the adjuster. It is high on some cars and low on others.
If the drum is frozen around the hub, an acetylene torch on the face of the drum just outside the hub may expand the drum enough to pop free of the hub. I anti-seize the hub where the drum fits over so it doesn't freeze again.
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:09:41 +0000, Brent wrote: > > On 2011-04-11, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= > > <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
> >>> On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > >>>> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! > >>>> The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to > >>>> put the spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
> >>>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the > >>>> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On > >>>> Toyotas there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, > >>>> but not so on this car.
> >>> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes > >>> that will force the drum off the hub?
> >>> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded in > >>> grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - the > >>> drums can't be re-used anyway.
> >> I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new ones.
> > Are the factory flat head screws still attaching them to the hub?
> Hmmm... not that I am aware of.
> I had them off a few years ago to do an inspection, and all I remember is > moving a spring stop, then moving the lever for the parking brake out of > the way, and then sliding the drums off.- Hide quoted text -
>"Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote in message >news:0B8op.2346$7N3.2290@newsfe10.iad... >> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't budge! The >> manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a screwdriver to put the >> spring retainer out of the way...there wasn't one.
>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the >> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On Toyotas >> there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the adjuster, but not so >> on this car.
>I would think that there is a plug somewhere on the backing plate to access >the adjuster. It is high on some cars and low on others.
>If the drum is frozen around the hub, an acetylene torch on the face of the >drum just outside the hub may expand the drum enough to pop free of the hub. >I anti-seize the hub where the drum fits over so it doesn't freeze again.
There are two JIS phillips screws in each drum face on my 1983 Mazda. I use a hand held hammer impact tool to loosen and remove them. There are two threaded holes that they will fit to pull the drum but I used two metric hex head bolts for better control. Bolts and axle hubs were sprayed with PB Blaster and drum was removed without having to back off brake adjustments. Axle end was also wire brushed prior to pulling drum.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 03:28:05 -0700, m6onz5a wrote: > On Apr 10, 11:58 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:09:41 +0000, Brent wrote: >> > On 2011-04-11, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= >> > <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>> >>> On 04/09/2011 08:28 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> >>>> 1989 Mazda 626. Tried to get the rear drums off, they wouldn't >> >>>> budge! The manual said to pull the rubber plug and insert a >> >>>> screwdriver to put the spring retainer out of the way...there >> >>>> wasn't one.
>> >>>> Then I remembered when I did a brake inspection a few years ago the >> >>>> retainer is on the OUTSIDE, but no joy. The drums are stuck. On >> >>>> Toyotas there is a rubber plug you can remove to loosen the >> >>>> adjuster, but not so on this car.
>> >>> "stuck" as in frozen? does the mazda not have extractor screw holes >> >>> that will force the drum off the hub?
>> >>> or "stuck" as in free of the hub, but trapped by the shoes embedded >> >>> in grooved drums? in that case, you'll just have to break stuff - >> >>> the drums can't be re-used anyway.
>> >> I think they're original. Only 201,000 miles. I already have new >> >> ones.
>> > Are the factory flat head screws still attaching them to the hub?
>> Hmmm... not that I am aware of.
>> I had them off a few years ago to do an inspection, and all I remember >> is moving a spring stop, then moving the lever for the parking brake out >> of the way, and then sliding the drums off.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
> hopefully your parking brake isn't on. ;)
ROTFL..no, I haven't done THAT one for a few years...!
