WARNING - 19" Wheels on Highlander, etc.
Joe AutoDrill
about done on the 2008 Highlander Limited...
No unusual wear and the alignment is fine...
But we are finding it VERY hard to come across acceptable replacement tires.
All the local discount places don't carry the unique 19" size and online is
possible, but with no guarantees of quality other than the ratings.
We know for sure we will not go with the stock brand... We want to try and
get a bit better mileage this next time.
So... The warning is that if you have a Highlander or "other" with 19"
rims, start looking for tires early and make sure that you know what it is
that you are getting into.
We tried very hard to convince the dealer to give us the smaller tires off
the sport and give our fancy rims to the next sport customer as a free
upgrade but failed to convince them that it would be a good deal for them...
Maybe they were hoping I would return to them for tires I guess.
Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
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Joe AutoDrill
> selection and then put the 'fancy' up for sale on ebunko or craig's list
> ...
There are reports on the internet saying teh brake calipers are different
from the Sport to the Limited (17/18" to the 19") and thus the smaller rims
are not simply transferable.
I don't necessarily believe it, but have no way of confirming it either.
C. E. White
"Joe AutoDrill" <auto...@yunx.com> wrote in message
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>> Ummmm, you could always REPLACE the rims to get good available tire
>> selection and then put the 'fancy' up for sale on ebunko or craig's
>> list ...
>
> There are reports on the internet saying teh brake calipers are
> different from the Sport to the Limited (17/18" to the 19") and thus
> the smaller rims are not simply transferable.
>
> I don't necessarily believe it, but have no way of confirming it
> either.
The Toyota parts catalog does not indicate any difference in the
brakes based on the sport model (compared to standard model).
See http://tinyurl.com/ygrk8ft
Patrts information from Rock Auto supports the conclsuion that the
SPort and Standard models use the same brakes.
I hate the mania for big shiny wheels. They ruin the ride, they are
easily damaged, they provide an excuse for tire manufacturers to jack
up the price of replacement tires.....
Ed
Joe AutoDrill
>> rims are not simply transferable.
>>
>> I don't necessarily believe it, but have no way of confirming it either.
>
> The Toyota parts catalog does not indicate any difference in the brakes
> based on the sport model (compared to standard model).
>
> See http://tinyurl.com/ygrk8ft
>
> Patrts information from Rock Auto supports the conclsuion that the SPort
> and Standard models use the same brakes.
>
> I hate the mania for big shiny wheels. They ruin the ride, they are easily
> damaged, they provide an excuse for tire manufacturers to jack up the
> price of replacement tires.....
>
> Ed
I'm going to have to look into that... The tires and wheels are decently
sized, but this whole issue of finding replacements is a nightmare.
--
studio
> I hate the mania for big shiny wheels. They ruin the ride, they are
> easily damaged, they provide an excuse for tire manufacturers to jack
> up the price of replacement tires.....
I have to laugh (or cringe) every time I see these expensive big
wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
They're absolute crap in snow or mud.
Joe AutoDrill
>wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
>They're absolute crap in snow or mud.
Here in the civilized world (NJ), we have very little need for tires that
are excellent in snow and mud... Maybe two or three times a year does it
matter that the tread is agressive enough. Ride quality on the highways and
back roads is more important.
Now... This big rim thing is crazy and I think we can agree on that.
Stupidity at the "look what I've got!" level.
--
Desertphile
<auto...@yunx.com> wrote:
> >I have to laugh (or cringe) every time I see these expensive big
> >wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
> >They're absolute crap in snow or mud.
Thursday in Santa Fe I saw some clown driving down the road in a
vehicle with wheels too large and too wide to fit between the
painted lines on the road. The vehicle had to swerve to avoid
traffic to the left and right of it.
I am utterly baffled over why someone would do that. Perhaps the
owner is unhappy with his penis and he wants everyone to know it.
> Here in the civilized world (NJ), we have very little need for tires that
> are excellent in snow and mud... Maybe two or three times a year does it
> matter that the tread is agressive enough. Ride quality on the highways and
> back roads is more important.
>
> Now... This big rim thing is crazy and I think we can agree on that.
> Stupidity at the "look what I've got!" level.
Where I live and drive (the Jicarilla Apache Reservation and the
Navajo Reservation), everyone who can afford mud tires will buy
them. Many thousands of people live at the ends of red dirt roads
(the best ones are called "light duty roads" and the worse are
called "primitive") which are impassible many times of the year,
winter and summer. City Slickers don't believe us when we tell
them they cannot go home until the roads dry out: several of our
guests tried to leave anyhow, and came walking back on foot.
Mud tires = GOOD THINGS TO HAVE when needed. These clowns driving
around in shiny new pickups in the cities that never touch a dirt
road that have large wide mud tires on their vehicles.... what the
hell could they be thinking?
--
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Anyolmouse
"Desertphile" <deser...@invalid-address.net> wrote in message
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Hey Desertphile! I think we talked about the oil bearing shale that
turns into axle grease when it gets wet. A lot of that around Dulce. The
Jicarillas back in the '70s for the most part didn't have 4X4s. They
just had 3/4 ton PUs with two extra wheels with old mud tires on them.
The tires had chains that had extra crosslinks made from logging chains
that were put on loose. When they were caught out in the rain they just
put those extra wheels on the rear and went about their business. You
could see them coming for quite aways because of the big divots of mud
that was thrown up in the air.
--
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Anyolmouse
studio
> "Joe AutoDrill" <autodr...@yunx.com> found these unused words:
>
> >>I have to laugh (or cringe) every time I see these expensive big
> >>wheels with low profile tires on 4wd vehicles.
> >>They're absolute crap in snow or mud.
>
> >Here in the civilized world (NJ), we have very little need for tires that
> >are excellent in snow and mud... Maybe two or three times a year does it
> >matter that the tread is agressive enough. Ride quality on the highways and
> >back roads is more important.
>
> >Now... This big rim thing is crazy and I think we can agree on that.
> >Stupidity at the "look what I've got!" level.
>
>
> Been up above my ar..e in snow there [central/northern]. Even military
> trucks had tough going.
That's where I live...good old corrupt New Jersey.
Where I park in the winter, when there's enough snow, no 2 wheel
drives can go. I've tried, I know.
Let's not forget the time they shut down the state because of snow and
wouldn't allow anyone on the road that didn't have 4wd. Albeit, that's
not the norm, the norm is usually bad enough though.
You generally don't buy a truck in the first place for "ride quality".
But if you do, you'd buy a 2wd, and then maybe one with a positraction
(or equivalent) rear drive.
You can buy good all terrain tires that are good in snow and mud that
also give a good highway ride. You have to look at the tire ratings
though to get a good determination. Forget any extremes unless that's
what you really need.
Every time I see one of those 4wd with the big wheels and low profile
tires, I immediately know they have no experience with trucks. It's
all about looks, and what's worse, that doesn't even look good.
Joe AutoDrill
>also give a good highway ride. You have to look at the tire ratings
>though to get a good determination. Forget any extremes unless that's
>what you really need.
Show me a tire for my truck's stock rim and I'll buy it...
245-55-19
Now, as discussed, I could go to smaller rims and TRIED but the dealer would
not comply. I'm trying to limit my costs at this point without pissing off
the wife with ugly steel rims.
>Every time I see one of those 4wd with the big wheels and low profile
>tires, I immediately know they have no experience with trucks. It's
>all about looks, and what's worse, that doesn't even look good.
That's BS. Some people simply like that style and it's quite possible they
own an International Scout or old positive ground Land Rover at home...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't personally like teh oversized, low profile tire look, but I
understand why some do...
Charly Coughran
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> 245-55-19
>
http://www.performanceplustire.com/products/tires/searchType/searchByBran
d/manufacturerID/27/productID/4819/tireSize/245_SLASH_55-19#prodAnchor
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Charly Coughran
ccou...@DELETE-TO-RESPOND-UCSD.EDU
studio
> >You can buy good all terrain tires that are good in snow and mud that
> >also give a good highway ride. You have to look at the tire ratings
> >though to get a good determination. Forget any extremes unless that's
> >what you really need.
>
> Show me a tire for my truck's stock rim and I'll buy it...
>
> 245-55-19
I can show you tires.
Toyo:
Open Country H/T
http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-ht
(scroll down, they're there)
Bridgestone:
Dueler H/L 400
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tireselector/SizeSpecs_BS_EN.aspx?Product_ID=1119
I have some concerns about a Brigdestone Blizzak DM-V1 and Blizzak DM-
VZ3.
The Bridgestone Web site says they don't exist in 245-55-19, but other
Web sites say they do.
These would probably be a somewhat better overall tire if they
actually exist.
See for yourself and decide.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Blizzak+DM-V1&partnum=455R9DMV1
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?tireIndex=0&autoMake=Toyota&autoYear=2008&autoModel=Highlander+Limited&autoModClar=&width=245/&ratio=55&diameter=19&sortCode=57410&skipOver=true&minSpeedRating=S&minLoadRating=S&tab=All
> Now, as discussed, I could go to smaller rims and TRIED but the dealer would
> not comply. I'm trying to limit my costs at this point without pissing off
> the wife with ugly steel rims.
No the dealer wouldn't comply because it's altering your vehicle.
I'm not sure what would actually fit myself not knowing the 2008
Toyota Highlander Limited well enough. But suffice it say, as you've
found out, they're some messed up rims to find tires for.
Rastamon
"Joe AutoDrill" <auto...@yunx.com> wrote in message
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> After putting on 20,000 miles of suburban and highway riding, our tires
> are about done on the 2008 Highlander Limited...
>
> No unusual wear and the alignment is fine...
>
> But we are finding it VERY hard to come across acceptable replacement
> tires. All the local discount places don't carry the unique 19" size and
> online is possible, but with no guarantees of quality other than the
> ratings.
>
> We know for sure we will not go with the stock brand... We want to try
> and get a bit better mileage this next time.
>
> So... The warning is that if you have a Highlander or "other" with 19"
> rims, start looking for tires early and make sure that you know what it is
> that you are getting into.
>
> We tried very hard to convince the dealer to give us the smaller tires off
> the sport and give our fancy rims to the next sport customer as a free
> upgrade but failed to convince them that it would be a good deal for
> them... Maybe they were hoping I would return to them for tires I guess.
>
>
That's the price you pay for trying to be different.
Joe AutoDrill
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I hadn't realized until just now that *I* was the one trying to be
different. However it seems obvious that this must be true since I am the
one that is going to pay the price. :)
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Rastamon
front suspension paid the price, it was still under factory warranty, so it
was covered. Now he's looking for a rim closer to the stock size. Go
Figure!