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DemoDisk

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Apr 5, 2010, 7:27:50 PM4/5/10
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I need something strong to retrieve a wrench socket from a deep spark
plug port. There's a rubber ring inside to keep out dust, and it pulls
the socket right off the extension bar when you try to withdraw it.

I just barely managed to fish it out with one of those 3-prong grabbers,
and I'd like to know what you would use. Even better if it's some
ordinary thing around the house instead of a specialty item from a
hardware store.

Thanks,
Jm


willshak

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Apr 5, 2010, 7:30:06 PM4/5/10
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DemoDisk wrote the following:


http://www.autobarn.net/grnus136.html?site=google_base

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

DemoDisk

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Apr 6, 2010, 2:17:16 AM4/6/10
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"willshak" <will...@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> DemoDisk wrote the following:
> > I need something strong to retrieve a wrench socket from a deep
spark
> > plug port. There's a rubber ring inside to keep out dust, and it
pulls
> > the socket right off the extension bar when you try to withdraw it.
> >
> > I just barely managed to fish it out with one of those 3-prong
grabbers,
> > and I'd like to know what you would use. Even better if it's some
> > ordinary thing around the house instead of a specialty item from a
> > hardware store.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jm
>
>
> http://www.autobarn.net/grnus136.html?site=google_base

Thanks, Bill. That looks like it was made for the plug port I described.
Might be a tight fit, tho.

Jm


Trevor Smith

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Apr 6, 2010, 4:07:24 AM4/6/10
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"DemoDisk" <pac...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I had the same problem so I got another short extension bar and tack welded
the plug socket to it.

Trevor Smith

Peter Hill

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Apr 6, 2010, 5:19:15 AM4/6/10
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:27:50 -0500, "DemoDisk" <pac...@nospam.com>
wrote:

Long nose pliers?

If socket has a detent hole then a hook made from a bent wire coat
hanger.
--
Peter Hill
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Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!

DemoDisk

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Apr 6, 2010, 2:33:31 PM4/6/10
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"Trevor Smith" <tr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, TS.


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Winston

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Aug 26, 2010, 6:45:29 PM8/26/10
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I second that motion because it works a treat.

In addition, I had a *heck* of a time keeping my oil filter
cup wrench attached to the end of my ratchet extension.

I plugged the assembly together, inverted it and clamped it
in a vise. Heated the end of the extension dull orange
with a oxy-acet torch and peened it flat against the inside
of the (metal) cup wrench.

It remains solidly attached to this day. :)

--Winston

Jim Yanik

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Aug 26, 2010, 8:14:57 PM8/26/10
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Winston <Win...@bigbrother.net> wrote in
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a DOT of super glue? you'd have to clean the oil or grease off the tool
mating areas first.
you should be able to break it loose after you're done,just don't use TOO
MUCH superglue.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

willshak

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Aug 26, 2010, 8:17:27 PM8/26/10
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Winston wrote the following:

Finally, an oil filter company has added a black rubberized covering to
their oil filters so you don't even need a wrench to get it off.
http://www.google.com/images?q=fram%20oil%20filters&biw=1009&bih=863
Maybe the other oil filter companies will follow suit.

Winston

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Aug 27, 2010, 1:40:01 AM8/27/10
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On 8/26/2010 5:17 PM, willshak wrote:
(...)

> Finally, an oil filter company has added a black rubberized covering to their oil filters so you don't even need a wrench to get it off.
> http://www.google.com/images?q=fram%20oil%20filters&biw=1009&bih=863
> Maybe the other oil filter companies will follow suit.

I hope not.

My new-to-me pickup had one of those filters secreted under
the alternator, behind some hard brake lines and 'way into
the engine compartment. No way to apply any leverage at
all. I could just get my hand on the end of the filter and
I was instantly up against a frame member.

I used my gripping cup wrench, carefully threaded through
various obstacles to remove it. My new filters are sans
rubber coating, so they will spin off easily with my
peened cup wrench.

--Winston

Striker

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Aug 30, 2010, 5:00:57 PM8/30/10
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There is a socket that uses a magnet instead of a rubber retainer.

Striker


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Jim Yanik

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Aug 30, 2010, 7:26:55 PM8/30/10
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"Striker" <oll...@copper.net> wrote in
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Mr Top-poster,his problem is that the entire SOCKET comes off the
extension,inside the valve cover.

Striker

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Aug 31, 2010, 2:44:59 PM8/31/10
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Mr. Top-poster

Give me a break, Mr. Net-etiquette

A tight rubber retainer will also cause the socket to hold on to the plug
and come off the extension especially if the ball on the extension is warn.I
never had that problem with a plug socket with a magnet.

Striker

"Jim Yanik" <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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Jim Yanik

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Aug 31, 2010, 4:23:50 PM8/31/10
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"Striker" <oll...@copper.net> wrote in
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Hey,schmuck,nobody reads bottom to top.
you top posters screw up the continuity of the thread.
you don't deserve a break.

Striker

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Aug 31, 2010, 9:53:26 PM8/31/10
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Hey,schmuck,nobody reads bottom to top.
you top posters screw up the continuity of the thread.
you don't deserve a break.

I do it to annoy idiots that whine about stupid things..

"Jim Yanik" <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote in message

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E. Meyer

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Sep 3, 2010, 7:58:29 AM9/3/10
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On 8/31/10 8:53 PM, in article i5kbn2$qio$1...@news.eternal-september.org,
"Striker" <oll...@copper.net> wrote:

There are about 3 people left on earth that even use usenet anymore and I
have to think that these anal retentive top posting/bottom posting tirades
are a large part of the reason why.

There are about 3 people left on earth that even use usenet anymore and I
have to think that these anal retentive top posting/bottom posting tirades
are a large part of the reason why.

Jim Yanik

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Sep 3, 2010, 9:27:40 AM9/3/10
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"E. Meyer" <epme...@msn.com> wrote in
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the main reason many have "deserted" Usenet is because few ISPs provide the
service anymore.

second might be bacause of the difficulty in following a thread when coming
in after a few MFFY top posters have screwed up the continuity and
readability of the thread. "anal-retentive",I think not.

Here's an example for ya;go to Townhall.com,pick an article with 50 or more
posts and replies,and don't select the "oldest first" option. They
automatically post everything "newest first";why,I can't figure.
Now,try to read the posts and make sense of it in "newest first" order.

Third is probably the trolls who go looking for argument,or the cross-
posters who spam their crap across several NGs.

E. Meyer

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Sep 5, 2010, 11:03:42 AM9/5/10
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On 9/3/10 8:27 AM, in article
Xns9DE86055A560A...@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
<jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

Yeah, but that's a chicken and egg argument. Most of the ISPs are dropping
it because the usage isn't there anymore.

>
> second might be bacause of the difficulty in following a thread when coming
> in after a few MFFY top posters have screwed up the continuity and
> readability of the thread. "anal-retentive",I think not.
>

Just keep on thinking that. I, and I suspect many others, roll our eyes and
immediately ignore the thread as soon it degenerates into complaints about
how its posted.

> Here's an example for ya;go to Townhall.com,pick an article with 50 or more
> posts and replies,and don't select the "oldest first" option. They
> automatically post everything "newest first";why,I can't figure.
> Now,try to read the posts and make sense of it in "newest first" order.

If you are actually following the thread this argument is moot. If there is
a problem at all, it is only for someone trying to catch up with a thread
(s)he has not been following.

>
> Third is probably the trolls who go looking for argument,or the cross-
> posters who spam their crap across several NGs.

No argument with this one. Most of the garbage landing in rec.autos.tech
lately is being cross posted from various Toyota and Ford boards and I do
find that irritating.

Jim Yanik

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Sep 5, 2010, 5:36:16 PM9/5/10
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"E. Meyer" <epme...@msn.com> wrote in
news:C8A91B7E.1FEBA%epme...@msn.com:

> On 9/3/10 8:27 AM, in article
> Xns9DE86055A560A...@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
><jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
>> "E. Meyer" <epme...@msn.com> wrote in
>> news:C8A64D15.1FD2B%epme...@msn.com:

>>> There are about 3 people left on earth that even use usenet anymore


>>> and I have to think that these anal retentive top posting/bottom
>>> posting tirades are a large part of the reason why.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> the main reason many have "deserted" Usenet is because few ISPs
>> provide the service anymore.
>
> Yeah, but that's a chicken and egg argument. Most of the ISPs are
> dropping it because the usage isn't there anymore.
>
>>
>> second might be bacause of the difficulty in following a thread when
>> coming in after a few MFFY top posters have screwed up the continuity
>> and readability of the thread. "anal-retentive",I think not.
>>
>
> Just keep on thinking that. I, and I suspect many others, roll our
> eyes and immediately ignore the thread as soon it degenerates into
> complaints about how its posted.

I fail to see how it's "anal-retentive" to read from top to bottom,the
NATURAL manner of reading. It's MFFY to top-post.It's egotistical people
who selfishly want to read their comments first,too lazy to scroll down to
the end.


>
>> Here's an example for ya;go to Townhall.com,pick an article with 50
>> or more posts and replies,and don't select the "oldest first" option.
>> They automatically post everything "newest first";why,I can't figure.
>> Now,try to read the posts and make sense of it in "newest first"
>> order.
>
> If you are actually following the thread this argument is moot. If
> there is a problem at all, it is only for someone trying to catch up
> with a thread (s)he has not been following.

Oh,so that makes it all right?
It IS a "problem". the longer the thread,the more difficult it gets for
anyone to follow,and top posting makes it FAR worse,and sooner.

AND,I suspect you didn't try my suggestion about trying one of Townhall's
fora.
It's a perfect example of top-posting screw-up. I dare you to TRY it,then
you will understand. Or maybe not.....but then there's no hope for you.
For one thing,you might only be able to come across the article -after-
there's been 100 posts and replies,and trying to read "newest first" is
impossible.Some of the articles originate at midnight,and by 7AM,there's a
slew of posts. That's the same as on the newsgroups.


>
>>
>> Third is probably the trolls who go looking for argument,or the
>> cross- posters who spam their crap across several NGs.
>
> No argument with this one. Most of the garbage landing in
> rec.autos.tech lately is being cross posted from various Toyota and
> Ford boards and I do find that irritating.
>
>

--

Striker

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Sep 6, 2010, 3:20:03 PM9/6/10
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"Jim Yanik" <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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Can we give it a break guys, I use outlook express and like email replies it
wants to top post all news group replies. Lets just drop it and get on with
our lives !

Striker


E. Meyer

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Sep 6, 2010, 8:35:09 PM9/6/10
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On 9/5/10 4:36 PM, in article
Xns9DEAB32E24307...@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
<jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

I revert to my original assertion - this anal retentive BS is becoming the
death of usenet. I have no use for anybody, business or pleasure, who
focuses on the jots and commas to the exclusion of the message, which is
part and partial what this amounts to.



>>> Here's an example for ya;go to Townhall.com,pick an article with 50
>>> or more posts and replies,and don't select the "oldest first" option.
>>> They automatically post everything "newest first";why,I can't figure.
>>> Now,try to read the posts and make sense of it in "newest first"
>>> order.
>>
>> If you are actually following the thread this argument is moot. If
>> there is a problem at all, it is only for someone trying to catch up
>> with a thread (s)he has not been following.
>
> Oh,so that makes it all right?
> It IS a "problem". the longer the thread,the more difficult it gets for
> anyone to follow,and top posting makes it FAR worse,and sooner.
>
> AND,I suspect you didn't try my suggestion about trying one of Townhall's
> fora.
> It's a perfect example of top-posting screw-up. I dare you to TRY it,then
> you will understand. Or maybe not.....but then there's no hope for you.
> For one thing,you might only be able to come across the article -after-
> there's been 100 posts and replies,and trying to read "newest first" is
> impossible.Some of the articles originate at midnight,and by 7AM,there's a
> slew of posts. That's the same as on the newsgroups.

I have been following these groups for about 15 years, and I have yet to
find a discussion I couldn't follow if I wanted to. Its just lame to assert
that oldest fist is ideal but newest first is impossible to read. Get real.
Scroll down to where you left off and then back up. Geez!

E. Meyer

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Sep 6, 2010, 8:43:36 PM9/6/10
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On 9/6/10 2:20 PM, in article i63etc$4m5$1...@news.eternal-september.org,
"Striker" <oll...@copper.net> wrote:

Sorry. This anal retentive stuff just irritates the hell out of me.
Anything to avoid the point. It pops up every couple of months in the groups
and just serves to bury the on-topic discussion in favor of some old fart's
idea of how the world should work. We haven't been using non-scrolling TTY
terminals for what, 20 years now?

Jim Yanik

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Sep 7, 2010, 10:04:58 AM9/7/10
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"E. Meyer" <epme...@msn.com> wrote in
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Hardly comparable to commenting on "jots and commas" or typos,which I don't
do.


you STILL didn't try Townhall as I suggested.....so you have no idea what
you're talking about.

Evidently,there IS no hope for you.

E. Meyer

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Sep 8, 2010, 9:24:57 AM9/8/10
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On 9/7/10 9:04 AM, in article
Xns9DEC66AC7396E...@216.168.3.44, "Jim Yanik"
<jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

BS

>
> Evidently,there IS no hope for you.

PLONK!

Jim Yanik

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Sep 8, 2010, 10:57:46 AM9/8/10
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"E. Meyer" <epme...@msn.com> wrote in
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you STILL didn't try Townhall...; willful blindness.

Striker

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"Jim Yanik" <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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You STILL need to try to drop it !

Unless your some idiot troll looking for a flame war.

Striker


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