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can't do abs codes on Nissan Quest

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In2hoppn

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Jun 12, 2010, 3:00:34 PM6/12/10
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1999 Nissan Quest.

Had funny brake noise, brake light on, and abs sometimes coming on.
So trying to make this a quick job for a good customer... but it IS NISSAN,
which is the WORSE brand vehicle for parts and BS of all the vehicles I work
on...

Red brake light on because fluid not high enough... closer to MAX than MIN,
but not good enough for NISSAN. Add fluid, light out, OK.

Funny brake noise turned out to be abs tone ring on driver side axle
flopping about... cracked and no longer tight on the axle. ABS light had
come on driving it here. Change axle shaft. OK. All is done, except
stupid ABS light still on. SNAP-ON scanner says short pin L in the Nissan
connector at fuse panel to ground. NO CONNECTOR in that hole (4th one
across the top). OR, it says for clearing codes use that pin OR pin 9 in
the obdII connector. NO CONNECTOR for that pin number. Mitchell says same
thing except to use pin 4 on obdII. Tried that, DOES NOT WORK. HOW MANY
HOURS DO I WANT TO MESS WITH THIS PIECE OF CRAP?????? I'm coming up on ALL
DAY to change an axle shaft unless I'm going to bill him my time to search
out STUPID NISSAN PITA GARBAGE. So, it goes back to him with light still on
and I'll tell him "it may stay on, it may go out".

If I can find a solution from here, I'll fix that another time when I have
it here again. If not, I'll tell him it's NISSAN and he should buy
something else anyway. THIS has been a total piece of JUNK since he bought
it.

E. Meyer

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Jun 12, 2010, 8:45:53 PM6/12/10
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On 6/12/10 2:00 PM, in article
goednTD_nozURI7R...@metrocastcablevision.com, "In2hoppn"
<nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:

OK, you hate Nissan. I get that. You used two aftermarket diagnostic tools
that were both wrong. I get that. For the amount of time & vitriol you've
invested already, you could've gone to Nissan-techinfo.com & downloaded the
actualy factory service manual pages you need to diagnose it.

Btw - you do know that the '90s Nissan Quest was a joint venture with Ford?
That car was built on a Ford line with the Ford version of the same thing
(Mercury Villager). Maybe it would be more palatable to you if you think of
it as a Ford in disguise.

I think, though, given your apparent attitude, the best thing you can do for
your customer is to tell him "sorry, don't work on Nissans".


In2hoppn

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Jun 14, 2010, 7:43:36 AM6/14/10
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THANKS E.Meyer!
more below...

> OK, you hate Nissan.
Confession... when I'm that frustrated, I hate any brand : )

>You used two aftermarket diagnostic tools
> that were both wrong.

Not CHEAP aftermarket tools either... more frustration.

> For the amount of time & vitriol

Had to look that word up... guess I was a bit caustic... too much
frustration. Nissan just seems to be the brand that is difficult to get
parts easily. They're not really the worst though... only second to
Infinity. Not counting SAAB. I don't work on those anymore as everyone I
know got out the habit of owning those.

>you've invested already, you could've gone to Nissan-techinfo.com &
>downloaded the
> actualy factory service manual pages you need to diagnose it.

THANKS again! I did not know that. I was doing pretty good at keeping my
temper in check, until I wasted a bunch more time online trying to search
out this problem and yielding nothing but the usual garbage. Every website
on the planet now has everything you could possibly search for worded on
their site to get you there. I'm going there next and download everything I
can!

> Btw - you do know that the '90s Nissan Quest was a joint venture with
> Ford?
> That car was built on a Ford line with the Ford version of the same thing
> (Mercury Villager). Maybe it would be more palatable to you if you think
> of
> it as a Ford in disguise.

My experience so far is quite the opposite. The Mercury Villager isn't
Ford. It's rebadged Nissan. It's Nissan in disguise.

> I think, though, given your apparent attitude, the best thing you can do
> for
> your customer is to tell him "sorry, don't work on Nissans".

Attitude better today! Now for the rest of the story. Second trip down the
driveway and the abs light went out. GREAT. Next, heading down my road to
the highway, I stomp the brake for a couple of abs activations and all seems
fine. Well then heading down the highway about 5 miles and the front left
brake overheats. Bring it back, remove wheel,... brake barely dragging now,
but still a definite drag. Had to release pressure at bleeder. Then all is
fine again. Start it up, stand on the pedal, release,... problem gone.
Bleed and top up fluid... no air and fluid looked clean. Seems the abs pump
left pressure on it for some reason. Hopefully it will never do it again,
but I warned him it may have an abs problem. No more trouble so far, 20+
miles with numerous stops including a few deliberately heavy ones. I DIDN"T
try another abs stop but warned him if he does he may have a problem after.
But maybe not. It's really a good abs system in that you normally never
know it's there. I can't say that for Fords of that era.

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