Nissan Van
davantes
license smog mechanic friend check the compression, first valve and he said
its zero. When you try to start, the engine it sound like "a motor is
turning", I open the oil cap where I can see the timing chain and it is
turning with the cam sprocket when I try to start. Another mechanic check
the ignition coil and spark plug, yes there is a spark. I replace the rotor
and the cap but still the same. It looks like nothing is turning or moving
inside the engine. Anybody familiar with this I appreciate it. Is this
means something in the piston or valve, sorry I am not familiar with the
engine.
Also yes, this Van is recalled sometimes in 1995, I bought this brand new
and it is very realiable until last week, I have 133,000 mileage. Does this
sound the whole engine problem or could be just the valve. Any thought is
appreciated, I know its hard to exactly know until you actually open the
inside. Any experience with this case is appreciated.
Thanks
Ramon
davantes
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Robert Baird
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> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:43:57 -0400, Truck <noe...@thisho.use> wrote:
>
> >The final being a recall to
> >destroy order.
>
> Are you serious ? You're not just pulling out legs on this ?
>
> Bob
>
It's true. The C22 van was a major contributor to Nissan's financial
problems before Renault stepped in. Nissan ended up buying back as many
C22's as they could and sending them to the crusher.
davantes
Thanks for the info, your must be the expert here, you know the story of
this Van. Yes, I thought about that safety system that the engine will slow
the power, but in the video that Nissan distributed back then, the engine
will still be working but will not pick up that much to give the driver to
get a change and pull over.
Today, I open the valve cover, the valve is all moving in sequence. Another
mechanic told me that because there is no compression, even the timing
chain, camshaft sprocket, and all the valve is moving more likely the
timing chain jumped and made the timing off and lost compression. So, in
order to check the timing marks (I have the service manual), I removed all
the fulleys, bracket, etc. As I remove the radiator hoses and the radiator
itself, I found that there is only about 1 cup of coolant comes out. Now, I
remember that morning in the freeway the engine was smoking with a coolant
and burn oil smell (overheat). About five hours later when the tow truck
pulled the Van to the top of the truck bed there is a lot of coolant leak
underneath (which I'm sure it dripped from somewhere to the plastic engine
cover underneath the engine). So, is this maybe a blown headgasket. The
mechanic is off tomorrow and he will help me out. Any opinion is
appreciated. We will check the timing mark tomorrow,
If it is off we will try to set it and try to get a compression.
If still no compression.
We will full the head.
Any other though is greatly appreciated.
Thanks again,
Ramon
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> Yes, there were many recalls on the Nissan Vans (the ones that looked
> slightly similar to the old VW buses). The final being a recall to
> destroy order.
>
> All the customers at the shop I worked at bought them back in, except
> one, accepted the cash and discounts toward another vehicle, then we
> drained the fluids, removed the cat, removed the VIN plates (as I
> remember one got sent to Nissan headquarters and one got sent to the
> National Highway Traffic Safety Administration so they could track how
> many had been successfully destroyed) and then sent the vehicles to
> the crusher at the salvage yard. They had to be completely destroyed.
> They were not allowed to even sit in a salvage yard to be used for
> parts once they were returned under the last safety recall.
>
> That aside, and to try and get you assistance. There was a
> significant amount of safety addons put on these vehicles during the
> early safety recalls (quite a few engine fires due to various reasons,
> most being customer caused). You really do need to take this van into
> the dealer to make sure that one of the MANY safety devices hasn't
> triggered/failed that will not allow the van to restart. If I
> remember correctly the safety devices were designed so that if a part
> of the safety system failed then the engine would no longer be able to
> start just as if something was wrong that would activate the safety
> system. I am no longer in the business and didn't keep the van recall
> book/information that I was issued.
>
> I figured you meant '88. :-)
>
> Good luck,
>
> Wil
Jeffrey Walton
Yes (as Robert said). The van was domesticated (going from a fine 2.0 or 2.2 liter
in Japan to a U.S 2.4 liter) and overheating problems occurred. Engine fires
followed. The problem was not with the 2.4L engine, or the van - but when this
particular combination was put together...
Jeff
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| On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 17:43:57 -0400, Truck <noe...@thisho.use> wrote:
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| >The final being a recall to
| >destroy order.
|
Jeffrey Walton
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| Ouch! Only a cup of antifreeze. That was one of the leading causes
| of the fires, and why one set of safety equipment was installed. Not
| jumping on you, just giving you the information. An antifreeze leak
| of one type or another would develop and the cooling system would go
| dry and as durable as the engine was, it would keep running, but at
| dangerous temperatures eventually causing a fire by something
| underneath becoming too hot.
|
| If you had not told me of the cup of antifreeze (coupled with the zero
| compression) I would have had you recheck the safety system anyway as
| although Nissan was correct in telling you that the vehicle would run
| in a sort of `limp to the side of the road' mode, once the vehicle was
| turned off it would not be able to be restarted until the safety
| system detected everything was ok. I wondered if that part of the
| system (the `reset' part) had failed.
|
| I hope you get lucky enough to get away with a bad head gasket and
| having to fix the original coolant leak and not have warped anything
| or done other engine damage. Please let us know how you make out in
| the end. By the way, since you've already got the radiator out, this
| would be a perfect time to check it for pinhole leaks or corrosion
| damage and also change the thermostat.
|
| I was unaware that Nissan had distributed a video for the owners at
| that time. Thanks for the information. Be sure to hang on to that
| video. I'd be willing to bet it is/will become a bit of a Nissan
| collectors item down the road. Sort of a memorabilia item, especially
| if you keep the case and any `official' correspondence with it.
|
| Wil
|
| On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:14:03 GMT, "davantes" <rdav...@cox.net>
Dithers
seems to last forever, and even went up to the Previa, which finally was
stopped in the U.S. IIRC, I think even Mitsubishi had a similar mid-engined
van, didn't hear to much about it, though.
Baz in SD
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Jeffrey Walton
performance, however). When it was brought to the states, a 2.4L engine was used.
In Japan, the engine was smaller (2.0 or 2.2 with different cooling
characteristics).
Jeff
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davantes
piston is burn (melted). Alfter we pulled the whole engine, it was the plug
that is corroded and has the hole. It looks like it totally lost all the
coolant during about 40 min drive but the sensors failed and the piston
burned and engine lost compression.
Thank you all
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