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Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

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Nov 10, 2003, 8:41:32 AM11/10/03
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I'm cursed. F***ing kids vandalized my Focus last night and broke off
the passenger side power mirror. I've ordered a replacement, but I
can't see how to get the old one off.

There is one torx screw visible when you open the door, which seems to
go direct to the mirror mounting plate.

There is a triangular plastic trim panel on the interior of the door
which seems to cover the remaining window screws, but I can't see how
to get it off. Tugging gently, it seems to be held on by self-adhesive
foam only, but I don't want to force it and break something more. How
do I get at the remaining screws? Do I have to remove the *entire*
door trim?

Melvin...@mailcity.com

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Nov 10, 2003, 9:43:01 AM11/10/03
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Why not take the car to a dealer an let the techs do the job
for you before you brake something? Your comprehensive insurance
will pay the cost and comprehensive claims do not effect you
insurance rate.


mike hunt

Jon Sturgeon

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Nov 10, 2003, 10:31:58 AM11/10/03
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On 10 Nov 2003 05:41:32 -0800, la...@larwe.com (Lewin A.R.W. Edwards)
wrote:

>There is a triangular plastic trim panel on the interior of the door
>which seems to cover the remaining window screws, but I can't see how
>to get it off. Tugging gently, it seems to be held on by self-adhesive
>foam only, but I don't want to force it and break something more. How
>do I get at the remaining screws? Do I have to remove the *entire*
>door trim?

No, you just need to remove the triangular piece behind the mirror. It
is held on with metal clips. Pull firmly from the side towards the
*front* of the car and it should pop off. Then you can see the 10mm
bolt you need to remove to get the mirror assembly off.

This might help:

http://www.myfordfocus.com/forum/showthread.php3?threadid=1603

...although I notice it omits the Torx screw that must be removed (as
you noted in your post).

Jon

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

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Nov 10, 2003, 12:41:26 PM11/10/03
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> Why not take the car to a dealer an let the techs do the job
> for you before you brake something? Your comprehensive insurance
> will pay the cost and comprehensive claims do not effect you
> insurance rate.

Yeah, fuckin' right. I suppose you go to the doctor every time you
need your toenails clipped also. FYI I have a $500 deductible. That's
five hundred fucking dollars, which is *TEN TIMES* the cost of a
replacement mirror. If I took it to a dealer, it would be AT LEAST
$200 for parts and labor (I guarantee Ford charges well over $100 for
this part), and that would be entirely out of my own pocket.

Incidentally, my insurance company explicitly told me that their
renewal rates are based in part on dollar amount of claims paid. So
even that part of your response was useless bullshit. How about you
take your ideas, ram them right up your ass, and step aside so people
can make sensible replies? Dumb prick. I'm in no mood for idiots
today.

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

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Nov 10, 2003, 12:42:48 PM11/10/03
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Hi Jon,

> >There is a triangular plastic trim panel on the interior of the door
>

> No, you just need to remove the triangular piece behind the mirror. It
> is held on with metal clips. Pull firmly from the side towards the
> *front* of the car and it should pop off. Then you can see the 10mm

Excellent post, thanks. I googled around a bit, but didn't find
anything helpful. I'm expecting the mirror to arrive on Wednesday or
so, and I should have it swapped over in a half-hour with the info you
gave me.

Thanks, again.

Synth

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Nov 10, 2003, 1:21:53 PM11/10/03
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YOU DO NOT DESERVE ANYONE'S HELP
Just go back to ur bottle...

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AV

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Nov 10, 2003, 1:38:46 PM11/10/03
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It was a perfectly fine response to MelvinGibson aka Mike Hunt's message
which provided no help.

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Mike...@mailcity.com

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Nov 10, 2003, 2:44:07 PM11/10/03
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No help, just sound advice. ;)


mike hunt

steve

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Nov 10, 2003, 2:35:39 PM11/10/03
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but he's right..............cant you see....pricks like you don't deserve
one ounce of help and if you came to my garage aksing for it, i would show
you exactly what to do with your broken mirror...hoping the glass cut your
ass on the way in.....
arrogant twat..........


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Mike...@mailcity.com

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Nov 10, 2003, 2:57:18 PM11/10/03
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I'm not a doctor I don't give medical advice even if asked, but I
do know insurance. Here's some more good advice. If in fact you
have $500 deductible comprehensive, not collision, when you renew
you policy obtain zero deductible comprehensive coverage, it only
costs a relative few dollar more a year. Read you policy, I
believe you will find only "at fault" claims, over a set amount
I.E. $800, effect rates in all states. Comprehensive claims are
not "at fault" claims.


mike hunt

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

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Nov 10, 2003, 5:16:23 PM11/10/03
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> do know insurance. Here's some more good advice. If in fact you
> have $500 deductible comprehensive, not collision, when you renew
> you policy obtain zero deductible comprehensive coverage, it only
> costs a relative few dollar more a year. Read you policy, I

It is a non-trivial amount of money for me. You aren't aware of my
circumstances. Also, the issue of what future insurance coverage I
should or should not carry is totally irrelevant to how I should
handle THIS incident, now.

Look - If I wanted to be told "take it to a dealer", I would not have
asked the question. This is replacing a mirror. It is NOT rocket
science. I simply wanted to know the location of any hidden fastening
devices. If everyone would stop trying to second-guess me and just
answer the question asked, or not answer at all, that would be just
dandy. Thanks to one (count'em) person in this NG, I have exactly the
answer I needed.

I was less restrained in my most recent response than I usually am,
but, for one reason and another, I'm in an exceedingly bad mood today.
I need to go home, have a glass of wine, and relax on the couch for a
few hours.

> believe you will find only "at fault" claims, over a set amount
> I.E. $800, effect rates in all states. Comprehensive claims are
> not "at fault" claims.

Perhaps you want my policy number and a power of attorney, so you can
talk to my insurance company and get them to accept your gospel?

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

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Nov 10, 2003, 5:22:33 PM11/10/03
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> ass on the way in.....
> arrogant twat..........

Arrogant? Hardly. Like I said, I'm in no mood for idiots today. If I
had a way to get a dealer to do it for free, you don't think I'd have
taken that route? The original reply was nothing short of stupid.

Swat Kat

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Nov 11, 2003, 1:30:15 PM11/11/03
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Unless you are new to this NG, you will know that the only advice the 12
faces of Mike Hunt ever gives is.. " Take it to the DEALER.." and argue for
CHEAP parts.(you get what you pay for.) Is he some agent for Ford Dealers???
Does he know anything other words? In the 9 years that I have been reading
this NG, I can recall just once when he did not advice..Take it to the
dealer, and he was merely repeating advice already given by someone else.
Correct me if I am wrong..but, I think the purpose of this NG is to offer
ideas and possible solutions to problems for people who want to .."Do it
Themselves.." If a guy/gal wanted to deal with a dealer, he/she would not
waste time posting a question in the NG. If all a person can contribute is "
Take it to the DEALER.." then this NG might as well be a "Damn Gossip
Column," and your shop might as well not exist. Because after all, your shop
is not at the Dealer.
I do not cheer for cursing, but, anyone with a drop of common sense could
tell they guy was in a bad mood after finding his car vandalized. He was not
in a mood for a stupid answer.

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steve

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Nov 11, 2003, 1:43:08 PM11/11/03
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"Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" <la...@larwe.com> wrote in message
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>


> Look - If I wanted to be told "take it to a dealer", I would not have
> asked the question. This is replacing a mirror. It is NOT rocket
> science. I simply wanted to know the location of any hidden fastening
> devices. If everyone would stop trying to second-guess me and just
> answer the question asked, or not answer at all, that would be just
> dandy. Thanks to one (count'em) person in this NG, I have exactly the
> answer I needed.
>

If its not rocket science why the hell are you bothering to ask someone else
how to do it....
btw heres a free lesson on politeness and respect........nobody has an
obligation to help you out here, they do because they are decent people who
genuinly like to assist people where they can and (possibly) save you a bit
of money by doing the job yourself...the "one" person that did help you out
here (dont know who, so i appologise in advance) in probably naive to the
fact that you are indeed an "arrogant" twat who didnt deserve it in the
first place........
top marks to the kids who vandalised your car in the first place, i'm sure
they had a damn good reason for doing so....................


Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

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Nov 11, 2003, 5:14:36 PM11/11/03
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> > Look - If I wanted to be told "take it to a dealer", I would not have
> > asked the question. This is replacing a mirror. It is NOT rocket
> > science. I simply wanted to know the location of any hidden fastening
> >
>
> If its not rocket science why the hell are you bothering to ask someone else
> how to do it....

Because someone else who has done it will know exactly where the
tabs/screws/bolts/etc are, rather than me having to guess exactly how
much pressure to apply to something before deciding it's the wrong way
to remove it.

If nobody had replied, I would have done it myself and *probably* not
broken anything - I have a lot of experience opening consumer
electronics, which is often held together with plastic claws and
ultrasonic welds - but it was very nice to get an "official" answer.

> btw heres a free lesson on politeness and respect........nobody has an
> obligation to help you out here, they do because they are decent people who

Absolutely true. I have no problem with the people who didn't reply
because they didn't know, or didn't care, or couldn't be bothered
replying - that's their prerogative. I also would have had no problem
with people saying "gee, I'm not sure, but maybe XYZ".

In any case: You have *no* idea how pissed off I am about the incident
(it's a direct result of us moving to a bad neighborhood, and I was
NOT in favor of that move, and I'm locked in to a 2-year lease now).
I'm sorry for the language (searching google groups will show you
pretty quickly that I *very* rarely use it in the 12+ years I have
been on Usenet) but in no way am I apologetic for the sentiment. The
original poster was and is a fool, and apparently a well-known fool
(he also hides behind sock puppets).

Oh, and kindly don't patronise me with lectures on netiquette. I
daresay I've been visible on Usenet a good deal longer than you have.

steve

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Nov 12, 2003, 2:04:13 PM11/12/03
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while i may sympathise with your reluctant move to a "bad neighbourhood" i
certainly do not accept that it gives you the right to abuse people who
(apparantly) tried to help you. actually the first post was
yours...requesting assistance, the second post was offering their advise
which was to take it to a technician etc and claim on your
insurance....since changing a door mirror isnt rocket science and you still
asked for help i thought this was a reasonable answer, so how does that make
he/she an idiot ?????? they still advised you claim the money back, or at
least try......... and of course lets not forget...YOU dont have a problem
with people who dont really know the answer but suggest xyz..............
on another point, being on usenet for 12+ years doesnt mean you know how to
conduct yourself.......experience counts for nothing, its common decency,
and if you have been using usenet that long then you should know, as i do,
that ppl who abuse are quickly pounced upon.....

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