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Dinny82

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Apr 1, 2001, 2:27:49 PM4/1/01
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When the auto tranny goes out I'd like to switch to manual. How much would you
guess it would be to switch?

Fitch R. Williams

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Apr 1, 2001, 6:40:05 PM4/1/01
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din...@aol.com (Dinny82) wrote:

>When the auto tranny goes out I'd like to switch to manual. How much would you
>guess it would be to switch?

There was an article on doing that by Scott Danglish (spelling?) last
year in TDR.

Fitch

Geoff

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Apr 1, 2001, 10:58:37 PM4/1/01
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That is another thing I've been looking at doing for my 95 dak v6. What is
TDR? I don't do any towing, i just want speed. My truck is already faster
than most cars, but the tranny is going. Is the factory 5 speed good for
acceleration, or should I go for an aftermarket?

thanks
Geoff Fahl
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Fitch R. Williams

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Apr 1, 2001, 10:29:21 PM4/1/01
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"Geoff" <geoff_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>What is
>TDR?

The Turbo Diesel Register - its a 4 times/yr periodical devoted to the
Dodge Cummins truck. They have a web site at
www.turbodieselregister.com If you don't have a subscription, I'd
suggest you get one. Its worth every penny.

Fitch

Dinny82

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Apr 1, 2001, 11:27:46 PM4/1/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: Fitch R. Williams frwi...@ptw.com
>Date: 4/1/01 6:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <kgbfctcirrdsvr54h...@4ax.com>

Fitch,

How do I get a hold of that article?

Thanks,

Kevin

Jacob Suter

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Apr 1, 2001, 11:40:11 PM4/1/01
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Hmm, IIRC the Dak uses the NV3500 also... I tried to accelerate (not even
hard) the other day and the damned thing blew up. :p

If you wanna race, I'd suggest finding a unit designed to handle some abuse.

JS

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Greg

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"Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> When the auto tranny goes out I'd like to switch to manual. How much
would you
> guess it would be to switch?

Simply more than it is worth!
Trade your vehicle on one optioned the way you want!
Greg

Team Goon

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Apr 3, 2001, 1:30:53 AM4/3/01
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>Simply more than it is worth!
>Trade your vehicle on one optioned the way
>you want!
Please don't make blanket statements that don't apply to everyone.
A friend & I put a 4 speed manual from a Camaro in a '79 Caprice sedan
when we were in high school. we did it in a saturday afternoon.
In a pickup truck, the procedure is NOT a big deal, I have done the
procedure auto to manual and the other way around, rwd & fwd vehicles,
and didn't run into any serious problems.
Just be sure to get EVERYTHING transmission-related from the donor
vehicle.
Did you think about the fact that he may have a paid-for vehicle (as I
do), and have no desire to go into debt? Or maybe he can't afford it.

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RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 3, 2001, 12:26:54 PM4/3/01
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>>you want!
>Please don't make blanket statements that don't apply to everyone.
>A friend & I put a 4 speed manual from a Camaro in a '79 Caprice sedan
>when we were in high school. we did it in a saturday afternoon.

Got news for you Bucko, cars and trucks have changed since then. And it hasn't
necessarily all been for the better.
It is cheaper to buy a different truck with a manual than try to "convert" one
and keep it smog legal.


God, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!


Dinny82

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Apr 3, 2001, 8:15:59 PM4/3/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/3/01 12:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010403122654...@ng-cb1.aol.com>

>Got news for you Bucko, cars and trucks have changed since then. And it
>hasn't
>necessarily all been for the better.
>It is cheaper to buy a different truck with a manual than try to "convert"
>one
>and keep it smog legal.
>
>
>God, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!
>
>

Mopar Man,

What's the diff between auto and manual tranny's got to do with smog?
I don't doubt your answer, just curious. I really would like to change to
manual when this auto tranny quits.

Thanks,

Kevin

Gary Glaenzer

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Apr 3, 2001, 8:56:40 PM4/3/01
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Dinny82 <din...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> What's the diff between auto and manual tranny's got to do with smog?
> I don't doubt your answer, just curious. I really would like to change to
> manual when this auto tranny quits.
>

Calibration of the ECM

EGR system

among others


Greg

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"Team Goon" <team...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> >Simply more than it is worth!
> >Trade your vehicle on one optioned the way
> >you want!
> Please don't make blanket statements that don't apply to everyone.
> A friend & I put a 4 speed manual from a Camaro in a '79 Caprice sedan
> when we were in high school. we did it in a saturday afternoon.

You removed a automatic tranny, installed a manual tranny, clutch, bell
housing, shift linkage, speedo cable, altered the drive shaft, and installed
clutch pedal & linkage, (into a car that never came with a manual tranny) in
a afternoon???
All I can say is you rock man!! You are more mechanic than I will ever be!
(Either that or you are full of BS!)

If the original poster had giving more info I may have giving a different
response. If the vehicle has a computer controlled engine, and wishes to
keep it that way, I believe my statement holds. If the car is a non-computer
controlled vehicle it still may cost more than the car is worth, and is
still a difficult job to do unless you hack it together or have a cheap or
free donor vehicle for all the miscellaneous parts.
Most I have seen that as this question have no clue what it takes, and are
unable or unwilling to do the swap when it comes down to it. Also this
question has been petty well beat to death, it comes up at about once a
month!
Greg

Roy

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Apr 5, 2001, 1:57:38 PM4/5/01
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It is good that you are aware of your limitations. It would probably take
longer to get the drive shaft to the machine shop and back than it would to
r&r the swap. Heck you have two people and the parts........done deal in a
afternoon.
Later,
Roy
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Dinny82

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Apr 5, 2001, 11:31:10 PM4/5/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "Greg" goo...@email.msn.com
>Date: 4/3/01 7:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <#PaLZmJvAHA.299@cpmsnbbsa09>

>If the original poster had giving more info I may have giving a different
>response. If the vehicle has a computer controlled engine, and wishes to
>keep it that way, I believe my statement holds.

Hello there Greg goo,

I made the original post in regards to changing an auto tranny to manual when
it finally gives way. My question was how hard and how much. So far, NOBODY
has said how much it would cost as if to even be feasable. That's all I
wanted to know. I was curious.

My truck is a 99 Ram 2500 QC, 5.9 cummins Auto, 4.10, long box. Need any more
info? Ask...


If the car is a non-computer
>controlled vehicle it still may cost more than the car is worth, and is
>still a difficult job to do unless you hack it together or have a cheap or
>free donor vehicle for all the miscellaneous parts.
>Most I have seen that as this question have no clue what it takes, and are
>unable or unwilling to do the swap when it comes down to it. Also this
>question has been petty well beat to death, it comes up at about once a
>month!

If the post really bothers you, why post a response? I'm really interested in
finding out the answer... Still!

If I was a gear head and knew the answer, why would I post a question in which
I knew the answer? I'm not bored, just curious.

Kevin

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 6, 2001, 3:37:56 PM4/6/01
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>changing an auto tranny to manual when
>it finally gives way.

Another words, you want someone to forecast what it "may cost" 10 years down
the road to convert transmissions.
You have to be really ignorant to ask a question like that or can you predict
the fututure????
I can't

Dinny82

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Apr 6, 2001, 5:47:14 PM4/6/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/6/01 3:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010406153756...@ng-cr1.aol.com>

>Another words, you want someone to forecast what it "may cost" 10 years down
>the road to convert transmissions.
>You have to be really ignorant to ask a question like that or can you predict
>the fututure????
>I can't
>
>
>God, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!

Well Redneck, first I want to say you can't read, or understand what your
reading. Being stuck on that nice big farm is fucking with your head. Instead
of "seeing" things, your FUCKING reading things that aren't there.

I simply stated that I would like to know how much it would cost to change from
auto tranny to manual. YOU all of a sudden became the forecaster. Take that
fuckin toothpick outa your mouth and stick it in your ear and I bet you hit
NOTHING!

I'm just tired of your stupid ass replies and you directed one to me so fuck
you.

That's all for today, so go mow your weeds Redneck, I know it can't be grass.

So, can anybody answer the question yet?

Kevin

CBHVAC

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Apr 6, 2001, 8:25:19 PM4/6/01
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And the truth hurts another one...

What will it cost? Whatever it takes.

--
www.carolinabreezehvac.com


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Jacob Suter

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Apr 6, 2001, 9:29:28 PM4/6/01
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Ok, just a suggestion - why not slap in a "manual shift" valve body? I'm
sure someone already makes or will be willing to make (For a price -
transmission parts are always pricey) a manual shift setup. While you're at
it get someone to "tune up" the transmission for heavy duty use. Slap an
overbuilt torque converter in it with a heavy duty lockup and it'll be
stronger and easier to use than *any* manual for a fraction of the
"conversion to manual" cost.

Just a suggestion, worth what you paid for it...

JS

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RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 6, 2001, 11:51:05 PM4/6/01
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>
>I simply stated that I would like to know how much it would cost to change
>from
>auto tranny to manual.

WHEN THE TRANSMISSION FINALLY GIVES WAY were your words.
I am not sure what else you would call your "question" other than IGNORANT AND
STUPID, it is beginning to look like the same "standards" can be applied to you
personally.
You pissed off because I didn't "predict" or "forecast" when your transmission
is going to "FINALLY GIVE WAY" so I can "forecast" or "predict" what it will
cost???
Seems like your "brain" isn't capbable of "comprehending" that the tranmission
may NOT "give way" for 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 YEARS.
The truth DOES hurt, doesn't it, idiot.

Roy

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Apr 7, 2001, 12:52:23 AM4/7/01
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UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE! You have another "best friend". Just to help ya out
with your calculations, the 94 has over 160K on the transmission, guess you
should take into consideration that it is a 12V as opposed to the 24V. While
your doing your Carnac act, care to take a guess at Sat Busch winner? New
track, concrete as well.
Later,
Roy

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Dale Yonz

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Apr 7, 2001, 3:46:50 AM4/7/01
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Dinny, go price it out at a transmission shop. And while your there, get that
thorn out of your ass and lite in up on poor redneck
just kiddin, dale

Dinny82

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Apr 7, 2001, 10:36:32 PM4/7/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "CBHVAC" in...@carolinabreezehvac.com
>Date: 4/6/01 8:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Qctz6.861$NM5....@eagle.america.net>

>
>And the truth hurts another one...
>
>What will it cost? Whatever it takes.
>

Now you become the next smartass. Guess you guys don't know, so, when I need
REAL advice, I know where to go. Just passing time... LoL

I'm not looking for an actual price, dollars and cents guys! Just a ball park
figure, JUST CURIOUS!!

Gary Glaenzer

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somewhere between 'free' and 'more than you can imagine'

is that ballpark enough for you?


CBHVAC

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Apr 8, 2001, 12:26:05 AM4/8/01
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No dick, we can find out what it may cost today, but if you REALLY have to
ask, you probably dont want to know.
Bet you this...bet it costs less to fix your automatic than it does to swap
over...


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Greg

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>
> I made the original post in regards to changing an auto tranny to manual
when
> it finally gives way. My question was how hard and how much. So far,
NOBODY
> has said how much it would cost as if to even be feasable. That's all I
> wanted to know. I was curious.
>
> My truck is a 99 Ram 2500 QC, 5.9 cummins Auto, 4.10, long box. Need any
more
> info? Ask...


Replace when the auto goes away....maintain it and treat it properly and it
may run the life of the truck.

Is it feasible?
That just goes back to how much money you have! Some people have so much
money that feasible is not in their vocabulary!

I am not that familiar with the computer on your truck. Does it control the
tranny? I believe it does. Say the tranny lasts 150,000 miles, and the truck
is ten years old, are you going to stick $2000+ into a tranny swap for a
$10,000 truck?
It is more complicated than most realize. If you are able to do the swap
yourself, maybe. If you have to pay someone else, trade the truck!

As far as the real cost, well, nobody knows for sure, depends on what tranny
you pick. I have seen people rip a tranny out of a twenty year old truck and
stick it into a fairly new truck, chop a hole in the floor and patch it with
what ever is laying around, some old body metal, plywood, what ever.
Carpeting? Who needs it! Tear out the computer and stick in a old carb and
distributor out of the same twenty year old truck. Just buy more mechanics
wire. Others swap out to a new Allison with all the proper accessories to
make it run right. Which one are you? The initial cost goes up accordingly!
;-)

No mater what the out come I still stick with my first post that recommended
to trade! If you have the $$$$$ to buy a Dodge diesel, why didn't you buy
the truck spec'd out the why you want? It will most likely be less cost to
trade than to try to install all the parts needed to change to a manual
tranny.
Greg

wddodge

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Apr 8, 2001, 5:47:35 AM4/8/01
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>
> Now you become the next smartass

Just one of many in here!!

Guess you guys don't know, so, when I need
> REAL advice, I know where to go. Just passing time... LoL

If you really just want to know, since prices I'm sure vary greatly thru-out
this country, why don't you check out a couple of local mechanics. Try a
trans shop. Try a local garage. See it they will do it for you. Are you to
fuckin lazy to get off your ass to check it out?? Or do you like to sit in
front of a keyboard and just bitch?


>
> I'm not looking for an actual price, dollars and cents guys! Just a ball
park
> figure, JUST CURIOUS!!

You have had several ballpark answers, figure it out!!

Denny

Dinny82

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Apr 8, 2001, 8:25:23 AM4/8/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "Greg" goo...@email.msn.com
>Date: 4/7/01 10:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <#vb5Dz9vAHA.199@cpmsnbbsa09>

>Is it feasible?
>That just goes back to how much money you have! Some people have so much
>money that feasible is not in their vocabulary!

Greg, now this statement makes sense to me...

>Say the tranny lasts 150,000 miles, and the truck
>is ten years old, are you going to stick $2000+ into a tranny swap for a
>$10,000 truck?

I would sink 2K in the truck at this point, still would have no truck payment.
So, yes, I would do it even at this point.

>It is more complicated than most realize. If you are able to do the swap
>yourself, maybe. If you have to pay someone else, trade the truck!

That's why I asked you guys this question. It really sounds like it's hard.
For 2K I would do it, over 3K, no way.

>As far as the real cost, well, nobody knows for sure, depends on what tranny
>you pick.

Yup, very broad question when it's broken down...

> I have seen people rip a tranny out of a twenty year old truck and
>stick it into a fairly new truck, chop a hole in the floor and patch it with
>what ever is laying around, some old body metal, plywood, what ever.
>Carpeting? Who needs it! Tear out the computer and stick in a old carb and
>distributor out of the same twenty year old truck. Just buy more mechanics
>wire. Others swap out to a new Allison with all the proper accessories to
>make it run right. Which one are you? The initial cost goes up accordingly!
>;-)

Yea, I'm not a Country Bumpkin to go thru all that! LoL

>No mater what the out come I still stick with my first post that recommended
>to trade! If you have the $$$$$ to buy a Dodge diesel, why didn't you buy
>the truck spec'd out the why you want? It will most likely be less cost to
>trade than to try to install all the parts needed to change to a manual
>tranny.
>Greg

I did buy an automatic because I was tired of shifting! I'm happy with my auto
tranny because I don't have to shift. Took off so much stress during my day,
it's well worth it. The only time I wish I had a manual is when it snows, or
when I pull the RV. Welp, between the two I only need it 10 times a year.

So, as you see, I was curious. That's all. Didn't know I was about to cause
all this shit! I figured I ask, someone reply and I would be done. But not in
this NG! That's what happens when there are more assholes than people with
knowledge. LoL

If this offends somebody, that somebody is the asshole. The folks with
knowledge, keep on replying with good advice.

Thanks always,

Kevin

Dinny82

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Apr 8, 2001, 8:32:15 AM4/8/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "Gary Glaenzer" nobul...@irtc.net
>Date: 4/7/01 11:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <tcvlhnj...@corp.supernews.com>
>
>

>somewhere between 'free' and 'more than you can imagine'
>
>is that ballpark enough for you?

From you? Yup.

Dinny82

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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "CBHVAC" in...@carolinabreezehvac.com
>Date: 4/8/01 12:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <GPRz6.1190$NM5....@eagle.america.net>

>
>No dick, we can find out what it may cost today, but if you REALLY have to
>ask, you probably dont want to know


Dick? Wow, I guess being a HVAC contractor makes you smart and gives you this
broad vocabulary? I bet a 2 zone system confuses you, eh?


>Bet you this...bet it costs less to fix your automatic than it does to swap
>over...


Wow, if you weren't such a smartass, I'd believe you just answered a question?

The easiest thing to say might be...

1) I don't work for free

2) I don't really know


Something like the above. I don't come in this NG to cause trouble or fight
with people. I come here to learn. That's it. But I don't take shit from
people hiding behind screens. I just want my questions answered with no bull.
I don't think I've asked 1 stupid question. If I ask, I sure don't know the
answer, therefore, my question.

Kevin

Dinny82

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Apr 8, 2001, 8:56:34 AM4/8/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "wddodge" wdd...@wcoil.com
>Date: 4/8/01 5:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9apc3n$roo$0...@63.68.70.224>
>

>Just one of many in here!!

It's about to happen again...>If you really just want to know, since prices I'm


sure vary greatly thru-out
>this country, why don't you check out a couple of local mechanics. Try a
>trans shop. Try a local garage. >See it they will do it for you.

I always hear people in here worship manual transmissions. By the time my auto
gives way it will be so old that I wouldn't mind swithing over from auto to
manual. I was just curious about YEARS down the road. My Ram is a 99 so it
won't be soon.

>Are you to
>fuckin lazy to get off your ass to check it out??


I guess asking this NG a question makes me lazy? Wow.


>Or do you like to sit in>front of a keyboard and just bitch?

I'm responding to a post, same as you Denny.

>You have had several ballpark answers, figure it out!!
>

I recieved two good answers out of 10 assholes. I'm hip Denny. I just don't
take shit. I'm done asking this question, really.

Kevin

Dinny82

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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/6/01 11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010406235105...@ng-ms1.aol.com>


Redneck = forecaster

It's over smartass, get over it! Now your back peddling!


>WHEN THE TRANSMISSION FINALLY GIVES WAY>were your words.


Yup, how much when it gives way, you phucking forecaster. What reading level
did you make it to, Redneck?


>You pissed off because I didn't "predict" or "forecast" when your
>transmission
>is going to "FINALLY GIVE WAY" so I can "forecast" or "predict" what it will
>cost???

Redneck, you actually believe what you write? You twist things around like a
bow tie. Sit down and shut up, will ya? If you weren't a smartass this
wouldn't be going on...


Dinny82

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Apr 8, 2001, 9:12:48 AM4/8/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: Dale Yonz yon...@aadt.every1.net
>Date: 4/7/01 3:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3ACEC5E8...@aadt.every1.net>

>
>Dinny, go price it out at a transmission shop. And while your there, get that
>thorn out of your ass and lite in up on poor redneck
>just kiddin, dale

Dale,

I tell ya. Just sitting at a shop and this woulda been over in a matter of
minutes! LoL

Kevin

Dinny82

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Apr 8, 2001, 9:23:27 AM4/8/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/6/01 11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010406235105...@ng-ms1.aol.com>

>Seems like your "brain" isn't capbable of "comprehending" that the


>tranmission
>may NOT "give way" for 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 YEARS.
>The truth DOES hurt, doesn't it, idiot.

Redneck,

I did forget to reply to one of your forecasted returns. You remind me of the
time when you were fighting beekeep. You claimed he was back peddler and not
knowing what he was talking about. Now when I think of you, "mopar 440", I
think of beekeep.

Not anything against you at all beekeep. Mopar 440 just twists and turns your
posts around so he can argue and be a smartass. He knows he's the phuck.

Your not funny mopar 440, your a forecaster. You start trouble and then try to
bow out.

I would be very ignorant if I had asked when will my tranny go out. In my
book, no question is a stupid question. If somebody doesn't know the answer
feel good that you helped them out. You are below this, 4 sure.

Prove your stupidity REDNECK! Do you know how to cut and paste?

LoL,

Kevin

N. Nelson

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In article <20010407223632...@ng-ct1.aol.com>, din...@aol.com
(Dinny82) wrote:


Oh, since you're looking for a "ball park" figure, how about $400 million?

That's what the new ball park in Milwaukee cost.

--
Neil Nelson
***********************************
***********************************

Gary Glaenzer

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"Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message
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good

now don't let the door hit you in the kiester on the way raus


wddodge

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>
> I always hear people in here worship manual transmissions. By the time my
auto
> gives way it will be so old that I wouldn't mind swithing over from auto
to
> manual. I was just curious about YEARS down the road. My Ram is a 99 so
it
> won't be soon.

Realisticly, this could be 10-15 years down the road. Are you planning to
use new parts? Will these new parts(clutch pedal, clutch support, misc
pieces) still be available new or will they have to be scavanged off of a
doner veh. Are you going to pay to have it done or do it yourself? It is
impossible to even ballpark this..probabley thousands.


>
> >Are you to
> >fuckin lazy to get off your ass to check it out??
>
>
> I guess asking this NG a question makes me lazy? Wow.

I guess it depends on the question and the probability of you wanting
somebody else to do your legwork.


>
>
> >Or do you like to sit in>front of a keyboard and just bitch?
>
> I'm responding to a post, same as you Denny.
>
> >You have had several ballpark answers, figure it out!!
> >
>
> I recieved two good answers out of 10 assholes. I'm hip Denny. I just
don't
> take shit. I'm done asking this question, really.
>
> Kevin

With a realistic question, you get realistic answers. Nobody is asking you
to take any more than you are putting out.

Denny


CBHVAC

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Apr 8, 2001, 8:35:15 PM4/8/01
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No...man....you are so far off base...its pathetic.

Its like when someone calls and asks me what it will cost for a new heat
pump....wellFUUUUUUUUUUCK....it COULD be as little as 2500$ or as high as
15,000....when, where, I mean..there are all kinds of variables to consider
in that, just as in your case.

No one got mad at you...we all enjoyed seeing how pissy you could get...:)

Still are...LOL


--
www.carolinabreezehvac.com


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FU2

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He is just another of the jerkoffs that lurk in this newsgroup...another
redneck with a family tree that looks like a telephone pole!

"Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message

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CBHVAC

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--
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"Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20010408084425...@ng-ct1.aol.com...


> >Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
> >From: "CBHVAC" in...@carolinabreezehvac.com
> >Date: 4/8/01 12:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <GPRz6.1190$NM5....@eagle.america.net>
> >
> >No dick, we can find out what it may cost today, but if you REALLY have
to
> >ask, you probably dont want to know
>
>
> Dick? Wow, I guess being a HVAC contractor makes you smart and gives you
this
> broad vocabulary? I bet a 2 zone system confuses you, eh?


No..but I have a hell of a problem with the new Honeywell Infrared
automatic paging controls..as most anyone how did not design them does.
But then...you have a problem with money...obviously...something I dont.
Each his own..

>
>
> >Bet you this...bet it costs less to fix your automatic than it does to
swap
> >over...
>
>
> Wow, if you weren't such a smartass, I'd believe you just answered a
question?


Ahh...yea...I did the first time, you just wanted to be a prick and get a
dollar amount....even though there is NOT ONE.


>
> The easiest thing to say might be...
>
> 1) I don't work for free
>
> 2) I don't really know


No jerkoff...I can go right now and get a list of prices for you, and all
MOPAR parts, can even get you the part numbers and list and wholesale prices
IF you qualify for such.

the thing to say should have been:

Take it to the dealer.
Ask them.
Start saving.

>
>
> Something like the above. I don't come in this NG to cause trouble or
fight
> with people. I come here to learn. That's it. But I don't take shit
from
> people hiding behind screens. I just want my questions answered with no
bull.
> I don't think I've asked 1 stupid question. If I ask, I sure don't know
the
> answer, therefore, my question.

Thats fine...if you would have read the replies that you called
smartassed...and tried to realize WHERE we were coming from...BEFORE you
spewed...then you..yes...you, would have understand that we DID answer them.


>
> Kevin


CBHVAC

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LURK??

Yea...right. another newbie spurts, and misses.


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RedNeck TookOver Hell

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>>
>> If this offends somebody, that somebody is the asshole. The folks with
>> knowledge, keep on replying with good advice.

The anal constriction around your neck cut off your oxygen supply,pissboy????

Jacob Suter

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"Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
> >From: "wddodge" wdd...@wcoil.com
> >Date: 4/8/01 5:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <9apc3n$roo$0...@63.68.70.224>
> >
>
> >Just one of many in here!!
>
> It's about to happen again...>If you really just want to know, since
prices I'm
> sure vary greatly thru-out
> >this country, why don't you check out a couple of local mechanics. Try a
> >trans shop. Try a local garage. >See it they will do it for you.
>
> I always hear people in here worship manual transmissions. By the time my
auto
> gives way it will be so old that I wouldn't mind swithing over from auto
to
> manual. I was just curious about YEARS down the road. My Ram is a 99 so
it
> won't be soon.

I dunno, I've got a '99 1500 and the manual is pretty well hosed (stuck in
1st gear, lever is actually jammed in the corner where 2nd should be... yay
for the NV3500) behind the rather screwed 318. My truck is just
mechanically retarded though - has been since I got it (I got the worst of
the bunch I think)

If you're willing to shift - properly, all the time, keep the truck you have
until you suspect its time to get rid of it, and trade it in for a MT truck
if you so desire.

An automatic transmission will last very nicely if its not abused and
maintained properly and they're really not that expensive to overhaul.

Like a friend of mine said as he was swapping his freshly rebuilt AOD back
in his tweaked '88 Mustang after causing his "racing ready" tremec MT to
explode (case busted and all). "My automatic took 50k miles of abuse and
needed a cheap overhaul - this manual took about 5 bad shifts and exploded."
He came to the grim conclusion that the MT might have shaved a few tenths
off, but it was not worth the extra hassle of losing a full second with a
crappy launch.

JS

Greg

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Apr 8, 2001, 10:40:43 PM4/8/01
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"Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I did buy an automatic because I was tired of shifting! I'm happy with my
auto
> tranny because I don't have to shift. Took off so much stress during my
day,
> it's well worth it. The only time I wish I had a manual is when it snows,
or
> when I pull the RV. Welp, between the two I only need it 10 times a year.
>
> So, as you see, I was curious. That's all. Didn't know I was about to
cause
> all this shit! I figured I ask, someone reply and I would be done. But
not in
> this NG! That's what happens when there are more assholes than people
with
> knowledge. LoL
>
> If this offends somebody, that somebody is the asshole. The folks with
> knowledge, keep on replying with good advice.
>
> Thanks always,
>
> Kevin


You have an auto for the same reason as me! Ten years ago I did not mind
shifting, now I will not own anything with out auto, air, and cruise! Stick
with the auto, it is really the easy way around the question. Switching
includes a multiple of parts swapping to do a proper job and the cost can be
through the roof unless you get a donor truck. I picked the $2000 price out
of my ass, if you scrounge for parts you may be able to do it for less. If
you pay someone and but new parts you may double the price of your truck!
If you are looking for assholes this group has them, ;-) just learn to laugh
at/with them and you will get along fine! I normally don't post much here,
mostly lurk, but throw in my 2 cents from time to time!
Now if you want to see everyone get excited just say "Dodge trucks are crap,
Chevy's rule!), Then duck!
Greg


Greg

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Apr 8, 2001, 10:45:21 PM4/8/01
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"Gary Glaenzer" <nobul...@irtc.net> wrote in message
news:td0q4pj...@corp.supernews.com...

>
> "Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20010408083215...@ng-ct1.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
> > >From: "Gary Glaenzer" nobul...@irtc.net
> > >Date: 4/7/01 11:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> > >Message-id: <tcvlhnj...@corp.supernews.com>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >somewhere between 'free' and 'more than you can imagine'
> > >
> > >is that ballpark enough for you?
> >
> > From you? Yup.
>
> good
>

Ok Dinny, now you've pissed of Gary! Hope you don't need any real tranny
questions amswered!
Greg

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 9, 2001, 12:24:03 PM4/9/01
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>"FU2"whine...@dickheaddetector.net>
with both hands on his dick and a pineapple up his ass exclaimed


>
>He is just another of the jerkoffs that lurk in this newsgroup...another
>redneck with a family tree that looks like a telephone pole!
>

Yawn, guess you are an "expert" or is that an "X-spurt"
Your "aim" is off, now go back to high school and learn something

Roy

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Apr 9, 2001, 2:01:54 PM4/9/01
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Another "best friend"!!! That's, let's see, 3, in two days? Nope I'm wrong
again. It is a all time record, 4!!! Correct me if I'm wrong, or, if I've
missed one. Dinny, FU2, Lloyd (wherever he came from), and for a return
appearance, from "I can't wire this horn fame", my old best friend FAZIE!!
Looks like the old Gong Show waiting room. Be gentle with them. Although one
of these clowns took a shot at GG, the foolishness of youth.
Later,
Roy
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Dinny82

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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "FU2" whine...@dickheaddetector.net
>Date: 4/8/01 11:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9arcgo$atl$2...@newstest.laserlink.net>

>
>He is just another of the jerkoffs that lurk in this newsgroup...another
>redneck with a family tree that looks like a telephone pole!

Amen brother.

Kevin

Dinny82

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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "CBHVAC" in...@carolinabreezehvac.com
>Date: 4/9/01 12:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <T2bA6.1343$NM5....@eagle.america.net>

Don't be a dick ok? It's over.

Dinny82

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Apr 9, 2001, 5:28:04 PM4/9/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "Greg" goo...@email.msn.com
>Date: 4/8/01 10:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <eEVt85JwAHA.298@cpmsnbbsa09>

>You have an auto for the same reason as me! Ten years ago I did not mind
>shifting, now I will not own anything with out auto, air, and cruise! Stick
>with the auto, it is really the easy way around the question. Switching
>includes a multiple of parts swapping to do a proper job and the cost can be
>through the roof unless you get a donor truck. I picked the $2000 price out
>of my ass, if you scrounge for parts you may be able to do it for less. If
>you pay someone and but new parts you may double the price of your truck!
>If you are looking for assholes this group has them, ;-) just learn to laugh
>at/with them and you will get along fine! I normally don't post much here,
>mostly lurk, but throw in my 2 cents from time to time!
>Now if you want to see everyone get excited just say "Dodge trucks are crap,
>Chevy's rule!), Then duck!
>Greg
>
>
>


Greg,


Your right. I hate shifting.

Your right again. I realize I was wasting time replying to the assholes. I
started laughing over the weekend about it. Thanks again Greg!

Kevin

Dinny82

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Apr 9, 2001, 5:31:36 PM4/9/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "wddodge" wdd...@wcoil.com
>Date: 4/8/01 9:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9appqg$8q3$0...@208.10.3.82>
>

Denny,

No biggie. I had some people e-mail me and tell me ball park was best I could
get. That's good enough for me. That's all I asked for, not smart ass-ed
answers.

Over and out.

Kevin

Dinny82

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Apr 9, 2001, 5:34:20 PM4/9/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "Jacob Suter" jsu...@intrastar.net
>Date: 4/9/01 3:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <CNdA6.1441$%L5.23967@insync>

> dunno, I've got a '99 1500 and the manual is pretty well hosed (stuck in
>1st gear, lever is actually jammed in the corner where 2nd should be... yay
>for the NV3500) behind the rather screwed 318. My truck is just
>mechanically retarded though - has been since I got it (I got the worst of
>the bunch I think)
>
>If you're willing to shift - properly, all the time, keep the truck you have
>until you suspect its time to get rid of it, and trade it in for a MT truck
>if you so desire.
>
>An automatic transmission will last very nicely if its not abused and
>maintained properly and they're really not that expensive to overhaul.
>
>Like a friend of mine said as he was swapping his freshly rebuilt AOD back
>in his tweaked '88 Mustang after causing his "racing ready" tremec MT to
>explode (case busted and all). "My automatic took 50k miles of abuse and
>needed a cheap overhaul - this manual took about 5 bad shifts and exploded."
>He came to the grim conclusion that the MT might have shaved a few tenths
>off, but it was not worth the extra hassle of losing a full second with a
>crappy launch.
>
>JS
>


JS,

THANK YOU! This is the post I expected to see from people! A story,
some advice, and just chattin. Cool.

Thanks again JS.

Kevin

Dinny82

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Apr 9, 2001, 5:37:07 PM4/9/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "Greg" goo...@email.msn.com
>Date: 4/8/01 10:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <#uFKi8JwAHA.287@cpmsnbbsa09

>> > >somewhere between 'free' and 'more than you can imagine'
>> > >
>> > >is that ballpark enough for you?
>> >
>> > From you? Yup.
>>
>> good
>>
>
>Ok Dinny, now you've pissed of Gary! Hope you don't need any real tranny
>questions amswered!
>Greg
>

What comes around goes around Greg. You want to be a dick, right back at cha.

BTW, where did you learn how to spell? Kintergarten? heheheh

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 9, 2001, 7:07:16 PM4/9/01
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> din...@aol.com (Dinny82) pulled his head from his anal cavity and spit forth

>THANK YOU! This is the post I expected to see from people! A story,
>some advice, and just chattin. Cool.
>
>Thanks again JS.
>
>Kevin

If you don't post ignorant stupid questions, you would get those kind of
responses

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 9, 2001, 7:09:34 PM4/9/01
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> din...@aol.com (Dinny82) as he pulled his head out of his anal cavity
discovered
>Your right again. I realize I was wasting time replying to the assholes.

Translation I was talking to myself

Tom Lawrence

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Apr 9, 2001, 7:59:13 PM4/9/01
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> I tell ya. Just sitting at a shop and this woulda been over in a matter
of
> minutes! LoL


What a complete cluster fuck....

Here - is this what you're looking for??

Rebuilt NV4500 (with proper bellhousing) - approx $1400
Lengthened driveshaft - approx $300
New PCM - approx. $300
Reman flywheel - approx $100 (junkyard picked and resurfaced)
Clutch pedal, master, and slave cylinders - approx $150 (junkyard picked
and rebuilt)
New clutch - $250 - $500, depending on brand
Shop time - approx. 10 hours, $750

Between $3250 and $3500 - say under $4,000 to add in some cushion.


Dinny82

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Apr 10, 2001, 12:00:45 AM4/10/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "Tom Lawrence" tlawr...@eNaOrtShPlAiMnMk.InNeGt
>Date: 4/9/01 7:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <l1sA6.3106$GB2.2...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

Actually Tom,

I was not looking for this much detail. I sincerely appreciate it tho! I was
merely spitting out a thought which turned into a cluster fuck because of
assholes! But now that you have specifically covered everything, it's ALL
OVER! Tom Lawrence, take a bow! Thanks.

I really do appreciate the detail because now I kinda know whats involved.
It's very involved. Thanks again. (I'm saving your reply)

Kevin

Dinny82

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>ubject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/9/01 7:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010409190716...@ng-cl1.aol.com>


Who are you asshole? Oh, that's right REDNECK = FORECASTER!

Notice I say asshole and forecaster all the time REDNECK? Get it dick? You
always reply as a smartass. Your a fuck. Look in the mirror and you can smell
yourself, like faggots fuck. Get it? Asshole? Butt stink! Oh I've had
enough of U, phuckin forecaster, asshole.

God, Forecaster, Dick, Asshole, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!


Dinny82

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Apr 10, 2001, 12:23:41 AM4/10/01
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>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual

>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/9/01 7:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010409190934...@ng-cl1.aol.com>

See Forecaster? Asshole? Dick? Your a smartass no good fuck!

I'm starting to smell you, your nasty. Your such a dick.

God, Forecaster, Asshole, Dick, Sex & Rock & Roll!!! = REDNECK
Whadda trade mark

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 10, 2001, 1:05:59 AM4/10/01
to
> din...@aol.com (Dinny82) lining his ass with broken glass circumsising his
buddy uttered the following babble

>
>See Forecaster? Asshole? Dick? Your a smartass no good fuck!
>
>I'm starting to smell you, your nasty. Your such a dick.

Maybe you should tell your buddy to wash his dick before you suck it

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 10, 2001, 1:08:05 AM4/10/01
to
> din...@aol.com (Dinny82) bent over pulling the rubber out of his ass mumbled
the following forgettable >Who are you asshole? Oh, that's right REDNECK =

FORECASTER!
>
>Notice I say asshole and forecaster all the time REDNECK? Get it dick? You
>always reply as a smartass. Your a fuck. Look in the mirror and you can
>smell
>yourself, like faggots fuck. Get it? Asshole? Butt stink! Oh I've had
>enough of U, phuckin forecaster, asshole.
>
>God, Forecaster, Dick, Asshole, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!
>
I guess you are the expert on that subject

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 10, 2001, 1:13:47 AM4/10/01
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>Rebuilt NV4500 (with proper bellhousing) - approx
>
>>$1400
>>Lengthened driveshaft - approx $300
>>New PCM - approx. $300
>>Reman flywheel - approx $100 (junkyard picked and resurfaced)
>>Clutch pedal, master, and slave cylinders - approx $150 (junkyard picked
>>and rebuilt)
>>New clutch - $250 - $500, depending on brand
>>Shop time - approx. 10 hours, $750
>>
>>Between $3250 and $3500 - say under $4,000 to add in some cushion.
>
>

Actually Tom, "numbnuts" was looking for what the prices will be when his trans
finally "gives up" according to his post.

CBHVAC

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Apr 10, 2001, 1:56:23 AM4/10/01
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Man...THATS why his attitude sucks....hes got that shit breath...

Hell..combine that with a set of lips that looks like the lower part of a
female...and you have the makings of a real cocksucker...

--
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"RedNeck TookOver Hell" <mopa...@aol.comedyhour> wrote in message

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CBHVAC

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Apr 10, 2001, 1:55:17 AM4/10/01
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Oh..Dinny...thats YOUR prices...we can actually do it for MUCH less..

Now...follow your own advice and shut the fuck up SF#10


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Dinny82

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Apr 10, 2001, 5:42:04 PM4/10/01
to
>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/10/01 1:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010410010559...@ng-me1.aol.com>

>Maybe you should tell your buddy to wash his dick before you suck it
>
>
>God, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!

Wow, guess you really know how it's done eh Forecaster? Maybe you should
include the steps or write a "how to" book. Like washing dicks for dummies?
heheheh

Redneck = Forecaster

Redneck = Author?

Nahhhhhhhhhhh.

Redneck = God, Forecaster, Asshole, Dick, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!

Dinny82

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Apr 10, 2001, 5:47:49 PM4/10/01
to
>ubject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "CBHVAC" in...@carolinabreezehvac.com
>Date: 4/10/01 1:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <NlxA6.1620$NM5....@eagle.america.net>

>
>Man...THATS why his attitude sucks....hes got that shit breath...
>
>Hell..combine that with a set of lips that looks like the lower part of a
>female...and you have the makings of a real cocksucker...

By the looks of it, HVAC, you must be Redneck's bitch. You ever do anything on
your own? You know, a follower instead of a leader?

Ahhhhhhhh. I'm so smart. Figured it out on my own. You "guys" are BUTT
buddies. Never heard of shit breath, you must know allllllllll about it.

Guess what? You too, can be an Author... Shit breath for dummies...
You 2 are pea's in a pod.

Just for the record... Will the real bitch please stand up?

God, Forecaster, Asshole, Dick, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!

Dinny82

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Apr 10, 2001, 6:01:59 PM4/10/01
to
>Subject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: mopa...@aol.comedyhour (RedNeck TookOver Hell)
>Date: 4/10/01 1:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20010410011347...@ng-me1.aol.com

>Actually Tom, "numbnuts" was looking for what the prices will be when his
>trans
>finally "gives up" according to his post.
>
>
>
>God, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!

There you go FORECASTING again forecaster.

Tom read and replied. He knew what I was asking. Thanks again Tom!

God, Forecaster, Asshole, Dick, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!

Dinny82

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Apr 10, 2001, 6:06:16 PM4/10/01
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>ubject: Re: Switching from auto tranny to manual
>From: "CBHVAC" in...@carolinabreezehvac.com
>Date: 4/10/01 1:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <LkxA6.1619$NM5....@eagle.america.net>

>
>Oh..Dinny...thats YOUR prices...we can actually do it for MUCH less..
>
>Now...follow your own advice and shut the fuck up SF#10
>

You think your special? heheheheh OK...

You must have taken the short bus to school, boy. I can get the parts same
price as you. Now go choke on your boyfriend...

RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 10, 2001, 9:10:06 PM4/10/01
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>Oh..Dinny...thats YOUR prices...we can actually do it for MUCH less..
>
>Now...follow your own advice and shut the fuck up SF#10

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
BANG, right between the eyes!!!!!!!!!


God, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!


RedNeck TookOver Hell

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Apr 10, 2001, 9:13:46 PM4/10/01
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>
>Man...THATS why his attitude sucks....hes got that shit breath...
>
>Hell..combine that with a set of lips that looks like the lower part of a
>female...and you have the makings of a real cocksucker...
>
<snicker> Aw hell
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
What an image!!!!!!!

CBHVAC

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Apr 11, 2001, 1:04:47 AM4/11/01
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Not hardly idiot...You cant get them with Mopar on them for less than me
unless you steal them off the truck...

Jobber...thats STILL too high..OK?

Stop your battle of who has the bigger dick will you? I bent mine in half
and you still lost.


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Greg

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Apr 10, 2001, 10:47:11 PM4/10/01
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"Dinny82" <din...@aol.com> wrote in message
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amswered!

> BTW, where did you learn how to spell? Kintergarten? heheheh

Naw! Just my fingers going faster than my brain! (which happens quite
often!)
Greg


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