wet sanding question
Nathan W. Collier
to lowes to find the recommended 1000, 1500, and 2000 grit but couldnt find
anything above the 100 course, 150 medium, and like 320 fine. also, is
there any type that stands up to water better than others?
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as well. What are ya doing??
Roy
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Budd Cochran
"wet or dry" type paper.
Use plenty of water and don't use too much pressure.
Btw, do you still have your Bowflex gym and how do you like it? My youngest
son wants to get one.
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Jerry
>
> is there any particular type of sandpaper to use when wet sanding? i went
> to lowes to find the recommended 1000, 1500, and 2000 grit but couldnt find
> anything above the 100 course, 150 medium, and like 320 fine. also, is
> there any type that stands up to water better than others?
> thanks,
>
Any parts store that sells automotive paint supplies, Napa or Auto Zone
may have it. May be hard to find anything finer than 800 or 1000 grit
though.
Jerry
Nathan W. Collier
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> Go to an auto parts store or a Wal Mart in the automotive section. You
need
> "wet or dry" type paper.
thanks, ill give it a shot
> Use plenty of water and don't use too much pressure.
i plan on leaving the spigot cracked with a steady stream of water going the
entire time. any last minute tips you can give me would be greatly
appreciated. what grit should i sand the existing paint that im going to
paint over with?
> Btw, do you still have your Bowflex gym and how do you like it? My
youngest
> son wants to get one.
i sold my bowflex. its a great machine for getting someone into shape, and
an even better machine for someone wanting to tone up or lose weight. its
not a great machine however, for anyone wishing to be a serious bodybuilder
or powerlifter. since i was already an advanced lifter when i got my
bowflex, it was a step backwards for me. for an average person, i think its
the greatest machine ever built and i highly recommend it.
Nathan W. Collier
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> You will find it at a auto body supply or parts store. don't forget a
block
> as well. What are ya doing??
thanks. im getting ready to rustoleum my 85 4runner
http://streetpony.com/854runner.jpg
Nathan W. Collier
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> May be hard to find anything finer than 800 or 1000 grit
> though.
really? earlier it was recommended that i wet sand first with 1000, then
1500, then 2000. what do you recommend?
Tom Lawrence
> 1500, then 2000. what do you recommend?
Yep - if you're taking it to an auto show and looking to win the "best
paint" trophy :)
2000 is WAY too fine for what you're looking to do. I'd stop at the 1000
grit, myself. Do it with 1000, and see how it looks.
Tom Lawrence
> paint over with?
320 grit should be fine - just enough to scuff it up. Doing it by hand, or
with a DA sander?
Nathan W. Collier
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> 320 grit should be fine - just enough to scuff it up. Doing it by hand,
or
> with a DA sander?
i was thinking by hand unless you think one of those 4.5" sanding wheels
mounted on a 10k rpm grinder would do the trick? :-)
Jerry
>
> "Jerry" <jerr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > May be hard to find anything finer than 800 or 1000 grit
> > though.
>
> really? earlier it was recommended that i wet sand first with 1000, then
> 1500, then 2000. what do you recommend?
>
Nate it's been 30 years since I last sanded a complete car for
repainting but back then in my Dad's shop we used 360 or 400 grit for
the initial sanding and 600 grit if sanding primer. On occasions when a
customer had a new car but wanted a color change we would do a light
sanding with 800 grit. With clear coats these days I don't know if you
can get away with that or not. What ever you use just get a 5 gallon
bucket and fill full of water and use a large sponge to keep you paper
wet. Dip the sponge in water and hold it against the car above you hand
with the sand paper and just a gentle squeeze will keep a trickle of
water running down on the sandpaper in your other hand. I've never seen
1500 or 2000 grit sand paper, didn't even know they made it that fine so
I don't know what it could possible be used for.
Jerry
Nathan W. Collier
> Nate it's been 30 years since I last sanded a complete car for
> repainting but back then in my Dad's shop we used 360 or 400 grit for
> the initial sanding and 600 grit if sanding primer.
what did you wet sand the paint with after you painted it?
> With clear coats these days
i dunno if they used a clear coat back in '85 or not.
> What ever you use just get a 5 gallon
> bucket and fill full of water and use a large sponge to keep you paper
> wet.
what about just following myself around with a trickling hose?
thanks,
Budd Cochran
the color out.
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similar over the hose fitting or cut it off so it won't scratch your work.
I'll let my son know about the bowflex....of course, they use really well
built people in the ads and he thinks he'll look the same. Right now, he's
so skinny if he turns sideways, he doesn't even cast a shadow ( 5'7" /
123#).
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just for tone and to keep a bad back from getting worse. The wife uses it
daily and has built a bit of muscle. She has breathing problems and feels
that they are lessened since she has been using it.
Also, the foot print when not in use is about 2'x2'. You will need about 8'
for the rods to move when you use it. Four feet to either side. The bench
will stick out about 6'. Picture a T with 8' across the top and the upright
6' and that's it.
Roy
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out the orange peel out of a paint job. Not for the faint hearted by any
means.
Roy
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Nosey
fine as 12,000 grit. I use their micro mesh kits to polish scratches out of
stretched acrylic aircraft canopies. This stuff will make Rustoleum glow!
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transforms a paint job.
Roy
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Nathan W. Collier
> I'll let my son know about the bowflex....of course, they use really well
> built people in the ads and he thinks he'll look the same. Right now, he's
> so skinny if he turns sideways, he doesn't even cast a shadow ( 5'7" /
> 123#).
you can achieve the build or the cut of the same people in the ads, but its
no replacement for free weights if his goal is serious bodybuilding or
powerlifting. if hes 123# chances are he stands to gain a lot from a
bowflex.
here i am while training for competition on free weights:
http://streetpony.com/nathan/more/family/nathan.jpg
here i am roughly 6-8 months after purchasing the blowflex:
http://streetpony.com/nathan/more/family/nate.jpg and while you cant tell
_much_ from that picture, there is an obvious difference in size.
and here i am now that im back on free weights:
http://streetpony.com/nathan/n1.jpg
again, not to give the wrong impression, the only reason i lost size when i
went to the bowflex is because i was already in competition form when i made
the switch. since its not a machine for competition
bodybuilding/powerlifting it was an expected loss in size. the average
person would benefit greatly from the bowflex. one thing about it, its
_fun_ to use and since its fun to use, chances are he'll be more willing to
stick with it once he starts into it.
tell him if he wants to grow, he needs 3 things. work, food, and sleep. if
he doesnt get as much as he needs of all 3, his muscles will not grow.
muscle consists of 2 things....protein and water. see to it that he gets
both. tell him he needs to eat 1 gram of protein per day for ever pound of
lean bodyweight that he wishes to obtain. for example, if he wants to weigh
175 pounds @ 10% body fat (the point where the ab muscles show), thats 157.5
grams of protein that he needs to eat a day. beef/pig/chicken/tuna all
roughly have 7 grams of protein per ounce so you can see it requires a LOT
of eating.
if he sticks with it though, it can be the most rewarding thing hes ever
done for himself. people will treat him differently, the fairer sex will
take a new interest in him, and as his self esteem grows he will evolve into
a new and improved version of himself.
of course, im always available to give any advice or answer any questions he
may have. if youve lost my phone number, ill gladly mail it to you.
Jerry
>
> what did you wet sand the paint with after you painted it?
>
Well as I said it was a long time ago and long before 85. Back in those
days there were only two paints being used, lacquer and enamel. With
lacquer a high speed buffer and polishing compound was used to bring out
the shine and with enamel nothing was used. We never sanded anything
after painting was completed. Hell we use to fill in dents with molted
lead until bondo came along.
Jerry
Budd Cochran
barely remember leading.
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detailing bay. We commonly used 1K and finer grades to touch up small
abrasions before compounding the cars.
We had one bodyman that had one of those shaving devices sold by J.C.
Whitney to remove runs with....his boss told him to get rid of it even
though it worked good.
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52 Cushman RoadKing
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<VBG> But instead of freeweights, I went to work in muffler factories,
farms, muffler warehouses, doing construction work, etc. I would consume
almost anything with high proteins...meats, lentils, you name it.
At my peak I would have given you a run for the money, I think. I may not
have had the definition that's popular today, but I could carry two railroad
crossties ( 10' long) for about half a mile. Take a look at my bios pic and
subtract 20 years of couch potato-ing.
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Jerry
>
> OK, folks, we have a winner! Jerry, ya gotta be over 60. I'm 55 and can
> barely remember leading.
>
No not yet but getting pretty close, 59. Dad used lead up until around
1957-58.
Jerry
Tom Lawrence
> mounted on a 10k rpm grinder would do the trick? :-)
We're sanding the paint here, Nate - not melting it :)
Budd Cochran
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>
> You could see that one coming a mile away<G>
>
Oh, now I get it....that was Budd being funny huh?
Jerry
Roy
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Jerry
>
> That's how I read it.
>
> Roy
I expect you would.
Jerry
Roy
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Jacob Suter
I used to listen to my grandpa talk about doing leadwork... Dad used to do
it too (53, started at 16) for high-end work, but there was some other
filler out by that point, too.
The new fillers are nice - lots less dust than the old shit I grew up around
(I started in the body shop around age 4-5 helping dad, 24 now). From what
dad said, the fillers around in the 80s were better than the crap he had
used before that when it came to dust.
JS
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Jerry
>
> Well, how did you read it?
>
> Roy
Oh I read it the same way Roy and it was cute, not original but cute.
Thought I was exchanging a little conversation there with Budd but he
couldn't resist a shot. My mistake, should have remembered who (what) I
was talking to.
Jerry
Jerry
>
> Woah... are you a "fo real" body man?! :)
>
Not me. I hated that line of work.
Jerry
Roy
would think that the conversation between you two would continue as it was.
But that's me, not you.
I figure that at times people for whatever reason get on each others nerves,
stuff gets said, ya get over it and move on. I can't be bothered with the
long term personal bs.
Case in point, Budd and I are civil towards each other and we have had our
moments. As have you and I.
Gotta wear kevlar and nomex here anyway! <G>
Roy
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Budd Cochran
I write the way I would speak in person to you. I've been told many times
that I tend toward eccentricity ( PC for weird, I guess) but that's who I am
and the way I am.
I'm not perfect, I don't claim to be.
You can't handle it? Your loss, not mine. However, remember you're no
shining example of correctness yourself. You should sweep your own doorstep
before you try to clean another's.
Maybe it'll take a couple heart attacks to teach you not to take life so
serious . . .like it did me.
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Jerry
>
> Jerry,
>
> I write the way I would speak in person to you. I've been told many times
> that I tend toward eccentricity ( PC for weird, I guess) but that's who I am
> and the way I am.
>
> I'm not perfect, I don't claim to be.
>
> You can't handle it? Your loss, not mine. However, remember you're no
> shining example of correctness yourself. You should sweep your own doorstep
> before you try to clean another's.
>
> Maybe it'll take a couple heart attacks to teach you not to take life so
> serious . . .like it did me.
>
You left out one other thing you also don't do well.....you don't think
before you write. I just dropped it and said nothing further to you,
was that a mistake in your eyes in that I should have shot back? So in
that respect I think I handled it just fine. You on the other hand are
here again blabbering again about your heart attacks. Sorry Budd but
that doesn't make me feel pity for you....no that's wrong I do feel pity
for you, I just don't feel sorry for you.
Jerry
Budd Cochran
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>
> You left out one other thing you also don't do well.....you don't think
> before you write. I just dropped it and said nothing further to you,
> was that a mistake in your eyes in that I should have shot back? So in
> that respect I think I handled it just fine. You on the other hand are
> here again blabbering again about your heart attacks. Sorry Budd but
> that doesn't make me feel pity for you....no that's wrong I do feel pity
> for you, I just don't feel sorry for you.
>
> Jerry
No, you're wrong, Jerry, I did think and I thought hard about what to say
and not generate a response from you such as this one, but I see you're as
close minded and set in your ways as I've ever been accused of.
The heart attacks are fact, they changed my attitudes (Another fact. You
don't like me now, you would have hated me then. I wasn't nearly as mellow),
but you remain as self-centered as I've ever seen anyone. I stated them only
as a warning of sorts that you shouldn't wait till a traumatic experience
happens before you realize that other people are important also....that no
man is an island.
Pity. I don't want the likes of you to have pity or feel sorry for me
because you don't have the foggiest idea of what it is to care for someone
more than you care for yourself. Maybe, if you ever get over your "I"
problems, you'll be worth knowing, someday.
Btw, the whole reason I tried to act friendly toward you was to see if there
was any possibility I might have been wrong about you and we had just gotten
off on the wrong foot. Of course, you had to say,"Oh, now I get it....that
was Budd being funny huh?" and prove I was wrong about the possibility and
right about your egotism.
Remember, you lost the "Hypocrisy" flamewar.
Budd
Jerry
> No, you're wrong, Jerry, I did think and I thought hard about what to say
> and not generate a response from you such as this one, but I see you're as
> close minded and set in your ways as I've ever been accused of.
>
> The heart attacks are fact, they changed my attitudes (Another fact. You
> don't like me now, you would have hated me then. I wasn't nearly as mellow),
> but you remain as self-centered as I've ever seen anyone. I stated them only
> as a warning of sorts that you shouldn't wait till a traumatic experience
> happens before you realize that other people are important also....that no
> man is an island.
>
> Pity. I don't want the likes of you to have pity or feel sorry for me
> because you don't have the foggiest idea of what it is to care for someone
> more than you care for yourself. Maybe, if you ever get over your "I"
> problems, you'll be worth knowing, someday.
>
> Btw, the whole reason I tried to act friendly toward you was to see if there
> was any possibility I might have been wrong about you and we had just gotten
> off on the wrong foot. Of course, you had to say,"Oh, now I get it....that
> was Budd being funny huh?" and prove I was wrong about the possibility and
> right about your egotism.
>
> Remember, you lost the "Hypocrisy" flamewar.
>
> Budd
Budd your so full of shit it is unbelievable. Act friendly my ass, all
you were doing was trying to stay in the good ole boys club you seem to
want so bad. For the last several days you have tried every possible
way you could in several posts to bait Beekeep into a argument and when
that failed you turned your attention elsewhere. You been posting that
crap about your heart attack for a couple years now and pity is your
goal. You think your the only person that has had problems? BTW I
don't even know you to dislike you but I do know your a fake and as
transparent as they come but don't feel to bad as you fit in with a
couple others around here.
Jerry
Budd Cochran
>
> Budd your so full of shit it is unbelievable. Act friendly my ass, all
> you were doing was trying to stay in the good ole boys club you seem to
> want so bad. For the last several days you have tried every possible
> way you could in several posts to bait Beekeep into a argument and when
> that failed you turned your attention elsewhere. You been posting that
> crap about your heart attack for a couple years now and pity is your
> goal. You think your the only person that has had problems? BTW I
> don't even know you to dislike you but I do know your a fake and as
> transparent as they come but don't feel to bad as you fit in with a
> couple others around here.
Beekeeper and I have had our arguments, but I wasn't baiting him. You can't
even tell the difference from baiting and a friendly kind of teasing jab.
So you don't like hearing about my heart probs? If you had been here back
when I was offline due to my surgery and read what many in here posted,
you'd know there a many that have shown that they do care about my
condition. You keep coming back to this issue even when it's obvious that
I'm not using it to gain pity. . . only you lack any ability to see it.
No, I'm not the only one with probs, as you demonstrate extremely well. My
probs are physical, your's are completely mental and emotional, from what
I've observed.
For one, you have shown a tendency to need to dispute with everybody and a
need to feel like your superior by degrading others. You have never really
contributed to this group, so you have to bad mouth anyone that does. You're
the sorry shit, Jerry...a very sorry shit.
Good bye.
Jerry
>
> Good bye.
Finally
Jerry