e36: no spare tire: safety (crash) issue?
bongo
>If I choose to remove the rim+tire (and maybe install audio amplifiers there),
>am I at risk for rear impact (crumplezone, etc)?
you'll screw up the weight distribution unless all that piggy audio crap weighs
40 lbs.
C.R. Krieger
it so the weight distribution isn't screwed up?
Whatta crock. Ever been to a driver school or autocross? Ever taken your
spare out as we RECOMMEND? Actually, it helps the rear end to come around
for power oversteer.
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Frank Massaro
C.R. Krieger wrote in message <6rqifv$g40$1...@news.inc.net>...
>bongo wrote in message <35e0abb...@news.erols.com>...
>>BL <fn...@sgi.c0m> stands accused of saying:
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>it so the weight distribution isn't screwed up?
>
>Whatta crock. Ever been to a driver school or autocross? Ever taken your
>spare out as we RECOMMEND? Actually, it helps the rear end to come around
>for power oversteer.
Exactly!
If I remember correctly from "how to drive fast 101", a *lighter* car is a
*faster* car.
Rear drivers like our bimmers can use that reduced weight in the rear for
throttle steering just like you described.
If you're *so* concerned about the extra 40 lbs. of weight in the rear
(which isn't of consequence for the reason you're talkin' about above) put
an extra 5.5 gallons of gas in the tank.
Frank M.
BMW CCA Tarheel/ NCC
George Kalemanis
>BL <fn...@sgi.c0m> stands accused of saying:
>
>>If I choose to remove the rim+tire (and maybe install audio amplifiers there),
>>am I at risk for rear impact (crumplezone, etc)?
>
>you'll screw up the weight distribution unless all that piggy audio crap weighs
>40 lbs.
What does "piggy" mean, people who can afford BMW's are also fluent in
their native language. Judging by your previous posts, I must assume
English isn't yours, therefor can you help us out in understanding
you.
bongo
>Whatta crock. Ever been to a driver school or autocross? Ever taken your
>spare out as we RECOMMEND? Actually, it helps the rear end to come around
>for power oversteer.
yeah, just the thing i'm waiting for, some asswipe in a 318 doing some goddamn
power oversteer rounding a corner and clipping me waiting for the light to
change.
earth to lamer: "we're talking street driving here....believe it or not, but
power oversteering is NOT on ANY driver's test of ANY state in the country..."
keep it in your pants and on the track. leave the streets to me.
Brett Anderson
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>
>: Ever taken your
>: spare out as we RECOMMEND?
>
>actually, I've not been to a driver's school yet, so that's news to me. If
>you recommend taking the spare out, and there's any danger of rear impact
(is
>there?) then I guess that means its ok to drive on the street with no
spare?
The spare is most certainly designed as an integral part of the rear crush
zones. Removal will change the characteristics of these crush zones.
Whether this lessens your chance for survival in an accident is anyones
guess. This would depend on a lot of other things, such as severity of
impact, etc.
FWIW, Corvette's were available without a spare, if you choose this option,
the spare is replaced by a component that is slightly lighter, cheaper, but
maintains the cars crush zones. You are not left with an empty tub in the
rear of the car.
Brett Anderson
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bongo
> You are not left with an empty tub in the
>rear of the car.
no empty tub there, it will be filled with all sorts of bass amps and such.
so not only is he a threat to himself, he can also be a noise polluter to the
rest of us.
we all REALLY need to hear his BOOM, BOOM BOOM in double-4 time, so don't scare
him out of doing it, ok?
Jason Davis
you do when you eventually get a flat tire?
Brett Anderson
>btw, doesn't the z3 have no spare, either? or am I thinking of another
>production car that has no spare (at all).
M roadster does not have a spare, but comes with a repair kit in most of the
world, except the US, where it comes with lifetime roadside service.
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>
>Jason Davis <jas...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>: Are you all talking about removing the spare for everyday driving?..if
bongo
> It
>is pretty clean sounding, but definitely not much bass below 70hz or so. if
>this is BOOM to you, then you have a strange sense of hearing, my learning
>and hearing challenged friend...
you spent all that money, and are going thru all this grief, and you have no
bass at below 70Hz?!?!?!
my advice is to stop buying your car audio gear from Radio Shack.
and keep me out of your killfile, you might just learn a thing or two. even a
stopped clock is right twice a day.
aceyx
>stopped clock is right twice a day.
yeah, but you dont know when it's right, defeating its purpose. so its still a
useless piece of junk. ;-)
kabir
>
> "C.R. Krieger" <wa...@lakefield.net> stands accused of saying:
>
> >Whatta crock. Ever been to a driver school or autocross? Ever taken your
> >spare out as we RECOMMEND? Actually, it helps the rear end to come around
> >for power oversteer.
>
> yeah, just the thing i'm waiting for, some asswipe in a 318 doing some goddamn
> power oversteer rounding a corner and clipping me waiting for the light to
> change.
Sorry dude, but I'm quite sure you'd be doing an understeer in a 3
series
>
> earth to lamer: "we're talking street driving here....believe it or not, but
> power oversteering is NOT on ANY driver's test of ANY state in the country..."
>
> keep it in your pants and on the track. leave the streets to me.
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