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Jeff Strickland

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:58:07 PM11/23/09
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I put new brakes on my daughter's car, and a new sensor, but the light did
not go off. Does this one need to be reset?


Dave Plowman (News)

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:23:37 AM11/24/09
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In article <hefi45$bp3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I put new brakes on my daughter's car, and a new sensor, but the light
> did not go off. Does this one need to be reset?

Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine. Wait a couple of minutes.
It'll go out if you've done things correctly.

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Jeff Strickland

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:20:05 AM11/24/09
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ON but not START. Okay, I'll tell her to give that a try.

She has driven upwards of 200 miles already and the light is still on.


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D.

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:41:55 AM11/25/09
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Hi ,
It could be a bad sensor .
D

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Jeff Strickland

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:31:41 AM11/25/09
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <hefi45$bp3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I put new brakes on my daughter's car, and a new sensor, but the light
>> did not go off. Does this one need to be reset?
>
> Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine. Wait a couple of minutes.
> It'll go out if you've done things correctly.
>

That did the trick. She set the key to ON but not START for about 30
seconds, she said.

Thanks.

Dave Plowman (News)

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:35:27 AM11/25/09
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In article <hejil4$1pl$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine. Wait a couple of
> > minutes. It'll go out if you've done things correctly.
> >

> That did the trick. She set the key to ON but not START for about 30
> seconds, she said.

It adds up the time between switching on and starting - so will sort
itself out in a few days without doing anything. ;-)

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Jeff Strickland

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:50:32 AM11/25/09
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <hejil4$1pl$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine. Wait a couple of
>> > minutes. It'll go out if you've done things correctly.
>> >
>
>> That did the trick. She set the key to ON but not START for about 30
>> seconds, she said.
>
> It adds up the time between switching on and starting - so will sort
> itself out in a few days without doing anything. ;-)
>

So, in a few more days the display would have cleared anyhow? Okay.

Dave Plowman (News)

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:34:24 PM11/25/09
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In article <hejn8q$egc$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:50bfd1a...@davenoise.co.uk...
> > In article <hejil4$1pl$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine. Wait a couple of
> >> > minutes. It'll go out if you've done things correctly.
> >> >
> >
> >> That did the trick. She set the key to ON but not START for about 30
> >> seconds, she said.
> >
> > It adds up the time between switching on and starting - so will sort
> > itself out in a few days without doing anything. ;-)
> >

> So, in a few more days the display would have cleared anyhow? Okay.

Yes - assuming the sensor is good and correctly plugged in. So it makes
sense to check it all before putting the wheel back on.

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Jeff Strickland

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:02:56 PM11/25/09
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <hejn8q$egc$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:50bfd1a...@davenoise.co.uk...
>> > In article <hejil4$1pl$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > Jeff Strickland <crwl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine. Wait a couple of
>> >> > minutes. It'll go out if you've done things correctly.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >> That did the trick. She set the key to ON but not START for about 30
>> >> seconds, she said.
>> >
>> > It adds up the time between switching on and starting - so will sort
>> > itself out in a few days without doing anything. ;-)
>> >
>
>> So, in a few more days the display would have cleared anyhow? Okay.
>
> Yes - assuming the sensor is good and correctly plugged in. So it makes
> sense to check it all before putting the wheel back on.
>

Brand new sensor from the stealership, and only connects one way, so that
was all good. I just expected the light to go off while driving, or
something. It did not occur to me that ON was the key to getting the light
to go out, I expected START to get the job done.

Assuming the ON cycle of the key is a half-second, or so, AND she says it
went out in 30 seconds of ON, the light should have gone out in another
60-ish drive cycles. ;-)

Alan B. Mac Farlane

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:01:35 AM11/27/09
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I am guessing the battery powered key fob that opens the doors and
security system of the BMW .. has only about 12 more months of service life.

When you get a new key from the dealership (bout $200) there is a set in
proceedure involving the key sensor system and the car computer.

After using the new key to unlock the door, sit inside and fob lock your
self in ... and then to start the car ... turn the key in the ignition
and it will not start ... but keep a hold of the key in the on position
for about 10 seconds or so ...

and then it will start.

After that it is just a quick touch of the key to the starter to get it
going as in normal operation.

When ever you deal with sensors and the car computer .. there is a
booting procedure.

This time you were lucky and you got the dash light to go out.

Some times the lights are on .. the engine is fine, passing smog, but
the dash lights are on and there is no real fixing it other then getting
a new car as this one is on the way to being spent or a lemon.

IMO and all that rot !!!

sumbuddie wear blind sea

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Jeff Strickland

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:19:31 AM11/27/09
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"Alan B. Mac Farlane" <al...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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>I am guessing the battery powered key fob that opens the doors and security
>system of the BMW .. has only about 12 more months of service life.
>
> When you get a new key from the dealership (bout $200) there is a set in
> proceedure involving the key sensor system and the car computer.
>
> After using the new key to unlock the door, sit inside and fob lock your
> self in ... and then to start the car ... turn the key in the ignition and
> it will not start ... but keep a hold of the key in the on position for
> about 10 seconds or so ...
>
> and then it will start.
>
> After that it is just a quick touch of the key to the starter to get it
> going as in normal operation.
>
> When ever you deal with sensors and the car computer .. there is a booting
> procedure.
>
> This time you were lucky and you got the dash light to go out.
>
> Some times the lights are on .. the engine is fine, passing smog, but the
> dash lights are on and there is no real fixing it other then getting a new
> car as this one is on the way to being spent or a lemon.
>


Say what?

The light was supposed to be on. The brakes were worn out and the sensor did
it's job. All is well with the universe -- except the whole Obama thing.
Anyway, the new sensor did not do what I thought it would do, reset the
light instantly. I did not know that the key had to be set to ON for some
period of time. And, the key is new -- under one year old -- so starting the
car was never an issue.


Dave Plowman (News)

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Nov 27, 2009, 11:21:54 AM11/27/09
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In article <4b0fbf9f$0$1988$742e...@news.sonic.net>,

Alan B. Mac Farlane <al...@sonic.net> wrote:
> This time you were lucky and you got the dash light to go out.

No luck. Just sound advice. ;-)

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Alan B. Mac Farlane

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:40:55 PM11/28/09
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Jeff ... your daughter has 2002 BMW ... it has a battery powered
ignition key fob to make the car operate with the locks go up and down.

That battery in that key fob wears out in 9 years ... so I am suggesting
to you .. that key fob battery will wear out and you will have to
replace it soon.

If you do decided with your daughter to get another BMW key fob ($200)
which is my recommendation ... there will be a ... start up boot in
process ... to get the new key fob sensors into the BMW computer and
make everything work.

One of the several things you must do to get the car started with the
new key fob is hold the ignition key in the on start position for 15
seconds or so .. and then it will start.

After that ... normal start operation is just a touch of the key to the
ignition start position and release.

This is future stuff in my opinion you will have to do along with all
the other owners of the 2002 model of BMW.

In 12 more months .. it will be the 2003 owners who will have to do this
as their ignition key fob battery is wearing out and only lasts 9 years.

sumbuddie hopes this helps

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Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "Alan B. Mac Farlane" <al...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:4b0fbf9f$0$1988$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> I am guessing the battery powered key fob that opens the doors and security
>> system of the BMW .. has only about 12 more months of service life.

>

Jeff Strickland

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:53:43 PM11/28/09
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"Alan B. Mac Farlane" <al...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff ... your daughter has 2002 BMW ... it has a battery powered ignition
> key fob to make the car operate with the locks go up and down.
>

Technically, she has a 2000.

I'm not having any problem with the key at all. The car opens and closes, it
starts and stops, the radio works, the roof is okay, her universe is fine,
except that the brakes wore out last week and I put new pads and rotors on
it. The brake warning did not go away as I expected.

She had to replace the key about a year ago. The RFID (or whatever it uses)
would not talk to the car anymore, so the car decided that it was in the
midst of an attempt to steal it, and would not start. It started fine with
another key, but that key would not operate the locks remotely because it's
not equipped to do that.

I think you have me confused with somebody else. I'm not having any problems
with the key on my kid's car.


Alan B. Mac Farlane

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Nov 30, 2009, 1:49:00 PM11/30/09
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oh silly me ... u been there and done that already ...

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