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Denny Strauser

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:51:21 PM11/25/09
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I found this facebook link - "PA of the Day" - on prosoundweb. Very
cool. Check it out.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/PA-of-the-Day/173813726282?ref=nf

-Denny

McSteve

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Nov 26, 2009, 8:01:52 AM11/26/09
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I saw that in your notifications on FB. Great stuff.
Some really funny comments and stories, too.
I wish I had shots from some of my earliest gigs.
Funny how we thought that stuff was so high end back then.

--
Steve <snip> McQ


George's Pro Sound Co.

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Nov 26, 2009, 8:17:45 AM11/26/09
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"McSteve" <mcstev...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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it is amazing just how much one thinks they know because they have a couple
of years mixing behind them. then they start trying to tell guys with
several decades behind them which end is up
George


McSteve

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Nov 26, 2009, 8:53:10 AM11/26/09
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"George's Pro Sound Co." wrote:
> it is amazing just how much one thinks they know because they have a
> couple of years mixing behind them. then they start trying to tell guys
> with several decades behind them which end is up
>

I know. I was subjected to one of these types recently.
I was doing monitors on a regluar basis at a club. Now
and then, a certain FOH guy would think he should tell
me how to do my job. After letting it slide a few times I
reminded him that a) I didn't tell him how to do *his*
job (though he needed some guidance) and b) I was
doing gigs when he was a toddler. I told him that whenever
he felt compelled to offer me 'advice' he should just keep it
to himself.
This particular know-it-all had a habit of falling asleep at
FOH during the show. WTF?

--
Steve <snip> McQ


George's Pro Sound Co.

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:16:25 AM11/26/09
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"McSteve" <mcstev...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I had to deal with this in my band
www.myspace.com/barleywinecny
one fellow keep offering me his opinion and help with setting up the
practice PA
eventually I just told him, I can not mix it like shit for your sake
but I bequeth the job to you, be my guest, make it sound anyway you want, I
will not offer you my opinion, after all if I am not mixing it is not my
place to act like as if I am.
I never offer opinion to a sound guy unless asked to by the guy himself
I am often reconized when out with my woman and asked to"help that guy out"
either it is my job or my night out, can't be both

george
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> --
> Steve <snip> McQ
>


McSteve

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:32:39 AM11/26/09
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"George's Pro Sound Co." wrote:
> I never offer opinion to a sound guy unless asked to by the guy himself
>

Same here. We all know how annoying it is when people
are moved to offer an opinion. Even if they are in the biz,
I don't want to hear it. The only person who I will listen to
is my brother. I trust his judgement and know he would
not speak unless it was valid. Besides, I'm older and bigger
than him and he knows not to piss me off. ;-)


--
Steve <snip> McQ


Sean Conolly

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Nov 26, 2009, 12:57:53 PM11/26/09
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"George's Pro Sound Co." <bm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I had to deal with this in my band
> www.myspace.com/barleywinecny
> one fellow keep offering me his opinion and help with setting up the
> practice PA
> eventually I just told him, I can not mix it like shit for your sake
> but I bequeth the job to you, be my guest, make it sound anyway you want,
> I will not offer you my opinion, after all if I am not mixing it is not my
> place to act like as if I am.
> I never offer opinion to a sound guy unless asked to by the guy himself
> I am often reconized when out with my woman and asked to"help that guy
> out"
> either it is my job or my night out, can't be both

Yeah, I slipped up the other day at a gig I was playing. The heavy guitar
seemed to have a lot of overpowering sub-bass 'chunking' - my guitar player
just isn't aware of what that sounds like through the PA with real subs,
etc. Normally I put a low cut on his channel and maybe bring up the bass a
bit to pull off the lowest octave. I just think it leaves more space for the
kick and the bass guitar. Note this is a direct out from the amp, not a mic.

But during load out, on a impulse, I made a comment to the house sound guy
that maybe he could try putting a low cut on the guitar channel to clean up
that stuff. He rather tersely replied that he DID have the low cut on -
ouch! All I could do is try to laugh it off and said "I guess I'll shut the
f** up then!".

I think he knew that I meant well, but I really do need to keep my opinions
to myself. After all, if the band sounds bad the sound man *always* gets the
blame, and that's still true no matter which side of the board I'm on.

Sean


Michael Dobony

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Nov 26, 2009, 8:10:06 PM11/26/09
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Looks like a shorter version of some speakers I had to deal with. Only 5 or
6 out of 8 worked. in each array.

Mr. Slow

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:23:44 AM11/27/09
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"Michael Dobony" <sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message
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The top pic. is a standard Shure Vocalmaster PA, isn't it? Despite the size
of the amp. it was a very early transistor design with spring reverb and a
mono output of about 100w RMS into 8 ohms. The tall columns from memory
contained 2 x 10" drivers located at the top and bottom of each cab and 4 x
8" drivers in between, but no crossover and all wired in series/parallel to
give an impedance of about 16 ohms. It was known as the million mile PA
system because it was virtually indestructible. We used ours until about the
mid 80's, having replaced the spring reverb twice as well as all the XLR
sockets which just wore out.

McSteve

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:26:12 AM11/27/09
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Lots of amusing stuff in the photos section. Some of the comments add
to the enjoyment.

I like this rig:
http://tinyurl.com/yjz3tk2

File under: "WTF!!!??"

--
Steve <snip> McQ


Michael Dobony

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:07:36 AM11/27/09
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I forgot about the spring reverb! I think we disconnected that. We had them
hanging from the arches.

Mr. Slow

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:14:19 PM11/27/09
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"Michael Dobony" <sur...@stopassaultnow.net> wrote in message

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How could you forget the spring reverb? Damned thing used to rattle on
bouncy stages and the only remedy was to switch it off or keep still. And we
say "those were the days"?

DanielleOM

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Nov 28, 2009, 7:55:53 AM11/28/09
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"Mr. Slow" <millenn...@btinternet.invalid> wrote in message
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A friend of mine was doing sound for a progressive jazz group with miked
drum kit, rhodes piano and acoustic bass. The piano player was extremely
loud and the bass player was feeding back. After biting my tongue for a
while I went over to her and said she should hear things from where I am
sitting. The volume was horribly loud and the bass was feeding back. She
looked at me and said. "I have the PA system off at the moment. Everything
you hear is coming from the backline amplification." The 3/4 bass player
was standing right in front of a loud stack. I will never go back to hear
that group. They were great players but the sound was horrible.

Danielle


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