Is DTS dying?
Les Weyant
out of nearlty 4,000 total titles after all this time. I'm beginning to
think the train's left the station.
<Les>
trotsky
This is what's known as the McDonald's argument.
Pete Calderwood
:)
On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:06:22 -0500, "Les Weyant" <l...@null.nospam.net>
mlma...@my-deja.com
"Les Weyant" <l...@null.nospam.net> wrote:
> Some publications are criticizing DTS for only have 3 or 4 dozen DVD
titles
> out of nearlty 4,000 total titles after all this time.
The criticism is deserved. DTS has brought more problems on themselves
than an external conspiracy could have.
> I'm beginning to
> think the train's left the station.
They still have a chance. The 768Kbps encoding will permit single
inventory titles and provide an income stream to DTS that will probably
be more significant than that they will get from dual inventory sales.
Matthew
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> Some publications are criticizing DTS for only have 3 or 4 dozen DVD
titles
> think the train's left the station.
Give me a break. See where the DTS version of "Saving Private Ryan" stands
on DVDexpress' top sellers this week. Number 3 on the list. The regular
version is number 1. There are more DTS DVDs being announced and released.
There is lots of hardware available to support it.
Just because DTS may not have as many DVD titles as Dolby Digital by no
means at all indicates they are in trouble. If no one was buying the discs,
then things would be serious. As long as people like myself are willing to
buy DTS DVDs and insist on having home theater hardware compatible with DTS,
they are going to be around in spite of the naysayers.
Bobby Henderson
Pete Calderwood
>They still have a chance. The 768Kbps encoding will permit single
>inventory titles and provide an income stream to DTS that will probably
>be more significant than that they will get from dual inventory sales.
By the way, in case you haven't realized, making any DTS DVD a "single
inventory title" would require adding a whopping 192kbps of bitrate.
1536kbps DTS soundtracks can easily be used together with DD5.1.
mlma...@my-deja.com
Pete Calderwood
>In article <NekmOJ1a2+ZpXe...@4ax.com>,
> Pete Calderwood <pe...@voicenet.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:08:48 GMT, mlma...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> >They still have a chance. The 768Kbps encoding will permit single
>> >inventory titles and provide an income stream to DTS that will
>probably
>> >be more significant than that they will get from dual inventory
>sales.
>>
>> By the way, in case you haven't realized, making any DTS DVD a "single
>> inventory title" would require adding a whopping 192kbps of bitrate.
>> 1536kbps DTS soundtracks can easily be used together with DD5.1.
>
>I guess you deliberately ducked my point.
?
mlma...@my-deja.com
Pete Calderwood <pe...@voicenet.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:35:10 GMT, mlma...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >In article <NekmOJ1a2+ZpXe...@4ax.com>,
> > Pete Calderwood <pe...@voicenet.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:08:48 GMT, mlma...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >They still have a chance. The 768Kbps encoding will permit single
> >> >inventory titles and provide an income stream to DTS that will
> >probably
> >> >be more significant than that they will get from dual inventory
> >sales.
> >>
> >> By the way, in case you haven't realized, making any DTS DVD a
"single
> >> inventory title" would require adding a whopping 192kbps of
bitrate.
> >> 1536kbps DTS soundtracks can easily be used together with DD5.1.
> >
> >I guess you deliberately ducked my point.
>
> ?
It's hardly a single inventory item without a DD 5.1 track. I doubt very
much that any movie studio will provide a DTS 5.1 track on a title
without offering a DD 5.1 alternative. If they do, they will be leaving
a lot of money on the table.
Pete Calderwood
>It's hardly a single inventory item without a DD 5.1 track. I doubt very
>much that any movie studio will provide a DTS 5.1 track on a title
>without offering a DD 5.1 alternative. If they do, they will be leaving
>a lot of money on the table.
My point was that adding a measly 192kbps to the standard DD2.0
soundtrack on all 1536kbps DTS DVDs would add up to 384kbps, enough
for a DD5.1 soundtrack. Hence, single-inventory.
mlma...@my-deja.com
Brian Wescombe
Pete Calderwood <pe...@voicenet.com> wrote in message
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>
> >It's hardly a single inventory item without a DD 5.1 track. I doubt very
> >much that any movie studio will provide a DTS 5.1 track on a title
> >without offering a DD 5.1 alternative. If they do, they will be leaving
> >a lot of money on the table.
>
> My point was that adding a measly 192kbps to the standard DD2.0
> soundtrack on all 1536kbps DTS DVDs would add up to 384kbps, enough
> for a DD5.1 soundtrack. Hence, single-inventory.
Even if DTS was used at 1536kbps and DD5.1 was used at 448kbps, it would
still use less bandwidth than the Region 2 release of 'Bad Boys' which has
FIVE DD5.1 soundtracks plus a 2-channel mix. The film is 114 minutes, plus
some extras, all on one RSDL disc. The disc also has TWENTY sub-title
languages. Lack of space/bandwidth is certainly not an issue on 'average'
length movies (say under 2hrs 5minutes).
Bobby Henderson
> Even if DTS was used at 1536kbps and DD5.1 was used at 448kbps, it would
> still use less bandwidth than the Region 2 release of 'Bad Boys' which has
> FIVE DD5.1 soundtracks plus a 2-channel mix. The film is 114 minutes, plus
> some extras, all on one RSDL disc. The disc also has TWENTY sub-title
> languages. Lack of space/bandwidth is certainly not an issue on 'average'
> length movies (say under 2hrs 5minutes).
Of course, I've been issuing comments like this for months about how DTS (at
1536kb/s) can be used on a normal length movie along side DD 5.1 @ 448kb/s.
With good MPEG-2 video authoring (the kind you normally see for mainstream
DVD releases), there will be plently of bandwidth available for high quality
imagery and space left over for a number of extras.
Bobby Henderson
Richard
objective demonstration that DTS significantly and more accurately
reproduces the master sound source than DD AND that the presence of DTS on a
DVD will drive sales. My informal contacts with non-DTS investors in the
business suggests to me that most are not convinced that DTS offers a
significant difference to the sound of the DVD or to their bottom line. 2000
should yield significant information on the sound quality and market
penetration issues.
<mlma...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:807est$jl2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <7CQnONs+VULNuVF0hvW9ZnG=40...@4ax.com>,
> Pete Calderwood <pe...@voicenet.com> wrote:
> >
> > >It's hardly a single inventory item without a DD 5.1 track. I doubt
> very
> > >much that any movie studio will provide a DTS 5.1 track on a title
> > >without offering a DD 5.1 alternative. If they do, they will be
> leaving
> > >a lot of money on the table.
> >
> > My point was that adding a measly 192kbps to the standard DD2.0
> > soundtrack on all 1536kbps DTS DVDs would add up to 384kbps, enough
> > for a DD5.1 soundtrack. Hence, single-inventory.
>