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Yet another Black Eye for the Evolutionists... Harvest Moon

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old man joe

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Oct 12, 2011, 5:31:29 AM10/12/11
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while the Evolutionist holds dear his belief that it life came into being from elements that are not
alive... yet another black eye comes from his over-worthy opponent.. the Creationist.

such it is with the ' Harvest Moon.'

in the Northern Hemisphere between the end of September to the beginning of October the moon expel's
an extra ordinary amount of light which is in harmony with harvest time... the farmer has almost all
night to bring in his crops and this extra ordinary amount of light that lasts every night for
nearly a week.

the perfect harmony of the moon, at this time of year, to coincide with harvest time is to the
Evolutionist just another chance happening. the Catholic Big Bang idea produced a lot of perfect
harmonic chance happenings in what they call Nature *... Nature is the word they use which really
means " God is the First Cause " behind every happening.

the real fact in the case is not what the Evolutionist believes but what really is taking place...
God caused the night sky to be lit by an extra bright moon so that farmers could have more time to
bring in crops to feed the people of the earth.

similarly, the brighter moon occurs again at Spring... so farmers can have extra light and time to
plant crops that feed the people of the earth.

Evolutionism is just another form of Gnosticism... the knowing of all things without God just as Eve
wanted when she saw that the Tree of Knowledge was desirable to make one wise... so she took and
ate. Gen.3:6

the Evolutionist hates anything that gives God the glory for forming this perfectly harmonic cosmos
we live in as he eats from the table of the Lords providence. it's not that the Evolutionist will
not acknowledge God, it's that he can not acknowledge God since we are told in the plainest of terms
in Holy Scripture that the Evolutionist types are passed by, Ro.1:18-32.

* the personification of Nature, calling it ' Mother Nature ' is nothing more than Asherah
worship... the worship of a female deity... which is Gnosticism... worldly wisdom minus the wisdom
of the Living God.

Ken

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Oct 12, 2011, 6:44:51 AM10/12/11
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Old Man Jose is a Senile Old Troll
And a Senile Old Troll is He!

jesshc

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Oct 12, 2011, 10:11:40 AM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 2:31 am, old man joe <o...@themarketplace.com> wrote:
> while the Evolutionist holds dear his belief that it life came into being from elements that are not
> alive...  yet another black eye comes from his over-worthy opponent..  the Creationist.
>
> such it is with the ' Harvest Moon.'
>
> in the Northern Hemisphere between the end of September to the beginning of October the moon expel's
> an extra ordinary amount of light

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expel
: to force out : eject <expelled the smoke from her lungs>

The moon *reflects* light.

Oops.

Drafterman

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Oct 12, 2011, 10:52:52 AM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 5:31 am, old man joe <o...@themarketplace.com> wrote:
> while the Evolutionist holds dear his belief that it life came into being from elements that are not
> alive...  yet another black eye comes from his over-worthy opponent..  the Creationist.

I don't know what "Evolutionists" are but what you describe is
abiogensis, and has nothing to do with evolution.

>
> such it is with the ' Harvest Moon.'
>
> in the Northern Hemisphere between the end of September to the beginning of October the moon expel's
> an extra ordinary amount of light which is in harmony with harvest time... the farmer has almost all
> night to bring in his crops and this extra ordinary amount of light that lasts every night for
> nearly a week.
>
> the perfect harmony of the moon, at this time of year, to coincide with harvest time is to the
> Evolutionist just another chance happening.

Not at all. Yes, the phenomenon of the Harvest moon is coincidental,
having to do with how the orbit of the Earth, relative to the sun,
settled. But the fact that farmers exploit this fact is hardly worthy
of mention. They have extra light, they make use of it. Simple as
that.

> the Catholic Big Bang idea produced a lot of perfect
> harmonic chance happenings in what they call  Nature *...  Nature is the word they use which really
> means " God is the First Cause " behind every happening.

"Perfect" is a word that is thrown around a lot, but without some
system of measure it's meaningless. I don't see any perfection. Then
again, I'm not wearing God-tinted glasses, either.

>
> the real fact in the case is not what the Evolutionist believes but what really is taking place...
> God caused the night sky to be lit by an extra bright moon so that farmers could have more time to
> bring in crops to feed the people of the earth.

Really? WOW! That's amazing. If God was concerned about feeding the
people of the Earth, then why would he allow droughts and
desertification to occur? Hell, why design human beings to be
dependent on other organisms for food to begin with? Sorry, when you
point out loose threads like that, they're going to get pulled and
unwravel the whole frabic of this nonsensical system.

>
> similarly, the brighter moon occurs again at Spring... so farmers can have extra light and time to
> plant crops that feed the people of the earth.

You do realize that your word choice reveals a clear bias: you are
speaking terms of the seasonal patterns of the Northern Hemisphere.
So, what, The Southern Hemisphere is just fucked?

>
> Evolutionism is just another form of Gnosticism... the knowing of all things without God just as Eve
> wanted when she saw that the Tree of Knowledge was desirable to make one wise... so she took and
> ate. Gen.3:6

I don't know what "Evolutionism" is, so I guess I'll have to take your
word for it. I suspect that you're trying to draw some ties to
evolution, but what evolution has to do with the phases of the moon, I
couldn't say.

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Oct 12, 2011, 12:00:00 PM10/12/11
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"I don't know what "Evolutionists" are but what you describe is
abiogensis, and has nothing to do with evolution" . Abiogenesis
is 1 in 10^40,000 th probability according to 3 atheist world reknown
Biologists....have you got this much faith as 'an atheist' ???
No one does .

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Oct 12, 2011, 1:03:39 PM10/12/11
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But.... I wanna be an Evolutionist so i can live as i
like ,unencumbered by a personal theistic Creator who has objective
standards for living ! I dont want anyone to OWN me ... and I
dont appreciate anyone telling me how i should live my life . Not
even the Creator of the Cosmos / my own Creator.

Devils Advocaat

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Oct 12, 2011, 1:08:16 PM10/12/11
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Dave, why do you continue to lie about

1) the number of scientists?

2) their world view?

3) the event itself?

The only element you've changed is the probability value.

Why is this Dave?

jesshc

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Oct 12, 2011, 1:17:33 PM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 10:03 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
So when "your own Creator" tells you you should stone someone to death
for working on the wrong day, for example, you do that
unquestioningly, right?

jesshc

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Oct 12, 2011, 1:18:20 PM10/12/11
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I have faith that you're lying again.

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 12, 2011, 1:18:42 PM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 9:00 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why are you lying? Don't you know there's a commandment against
bearing false witness? I thought those commandments were supposed to
be important.

JD

Drafterman

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Oct 12, 2011, 2:17:54 PM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 12:00 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> ___________________________________________________________________________­______________________
> "I don't know what "Evolutionists" are but what you describe is
> abiogensis, and has nothing to do with evolution"      .  Abiogenesis
> is 1 in 10^40,000 th probability according to 3 atheist world reknown
> Biologists....have you got this much faith as 'an atheist'    ???
> No one does .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Firstly, name these "3 atheist world reknown Biologists"
Secondly, no one has narrowed down exactly how abiogenesis occurred.
There are a number of competing hypotheses. It is highly doubtful that
all of these possibilities have exactly the same probability of
happening. I'd appreciate a reference. Then again, the probability of
*some* form of abiognesis occurred is 100% - it did occur, we are just
trying to figure out how.
Thirdly, in line with the above, since the existence of abiogenesis is
indisputable, it requires no faith to accept. At some point there was
no life. At some point aftwards there was. Abiogenesis. QED. Even
theists believe that, they just believe that God did it.
Fourthly, you aren't in a position to determine the level of faith
possessed by other individuals. Your lack of imagination does not
limit my potential.

Drafterman

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Oct 12, 2011, 2:19:54 PM10/12/11
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Everyone lives as they like, theist or not. We all make decisions,
choices, weighing the consequences.
Furthermore, if there are objective standards for living, then they
exist independently of a Creator, meaning I don't need a Creator.

> I dont want anyone to OWN me ...  and I
> dont appreciate anyone telling me how i should live my life .   Not
> even the Creator of the Cosmos /  my own Creator.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In the event a Creator reveals himself to me and tells me how to live,
I'll address this.

Conan the bacterium

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Oct 12, 2011, 3:20:32 PM10/12/11
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So, God hates Australians, Kiwis, Africans, and
Pacific Islanders, does He?


conan

Conan the bacterium

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Oct 12, 2011, 3:22:15 PM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 9:00 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
Name one:


(geez, his lies are starting to drift. odd, that, since
he's got around five stock lies)


conan

Syd M.

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Oct 12, 2011, 3:55:38 PM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 5:31 am, old man joe <o...@themarketplace.com> wrote:
> while the Evolutionist holds dear his belief that it life came into being from elements that are not
> alive...  yet another black eye comes from his over-worthy opponent..  the Creationist.
>

Nope. Still wrong, Old Man Joke.

PDW

Syd M.

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Oct 12, 2011, 4:01:35 PM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 1:03 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
Atheist still don't live any different from you, jackass.

PDW

thomas p.

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Oct 13, 2011, 1:56:48 AM10/13/11
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"Devils Advocaat" <manky...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:29260143-c8fe-410d...@m15g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...

Insanity? Dishonesty? The general desire to be an asshole? Studies
continue.


thomas p.

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Oct 13, 2011, 2:05:45 AM10/13/11
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"Conan the bacterium" <deinococcus...@gmail.com> skrev i
meddelelsen
news:bee717de-6110-4701...@r8g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

And, when it rains so much the crop is ruined or the harvest is impossible,
god is upset over all of those homosexuals. See, it all makes perfect sense
in a perfectly designed universe.


>
>
>conan
>
>
>


harry k

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Oct 13, 2011, 11:18:10 AM10/13/11
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On Oct 12, 2:31 am, old man joe <o...@themarketplace.com> wrote:
> while the Evolutionist holds dear his belief that it life came into being from elements that are not
> alive...  yet another black eye comes from his over-worthy opponent..  the Creationist.
>
> such it is with the ' Harvest Moon.'
>
> in the Northern Hemisphere between the end of September to the beginning of October the moon expel's
> an extra ordinary amount of light which is in harmony with harvest time... the farmer has almost all
> night to bring in his crops and this extra ordinary amount of light that lasts every night for
> nearly a week.

1. So which is it? That miniscule period of time between the "end
of ...and the beginning of..." or a 1 week period?

2. The full moon does not fall at any specific time of the month, it
changes year by year. Just a minor point that most school kids
know...well, except probably the "home skuled".

> the perfect harmony of the moon, at this time of year, to coincide with harvest time is to the

Odd that "harvest time" depends on the type of crop. Or does your God
make the harvest moon shine depending on who is harvesting what?
Example, I live in a rich farmland the produces wheat. The harvest of
Winter wheat begins usuallymid/late July, spring wheat follos that by
about 2 weeks.

Must be an amazing sight to see a full moon over my neighbor's field
of wheat but none over my other neighbor's orchard of apples that are
still grass green.

Harry K


<snip usual idiocy seasoned with asininity>

Harry K

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 13, 2011, 12:41:18 PM10/13/11
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:18:10 -0700 (PDT), harry k
<turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 12, 2:31�am, old man joe <o...@themarketplace.com> wrote:
>> while the Evolutionist holds dear his belief that it life came into being from elements that are not
>> alive... �yet another black eye comes from his over-worthy opponent.. �the Creationist.
>>
>> such it is with the ' Harvest Moon.'
>>
>> in the Northern Hemisphere between the end of September to the beginning of October the moon expel's
>> an extra ordinary amount of light which is in harmony with harvest time... the farmer has almost all
>> night to bring in his crops and this extra ordinary amount of light that lasts every night for
>> nearly a week.
>
>1. So which is it? That miniscule period of time between the "end
>of ...and the beginning of..." or a 1 week period?
>
>2. The full moon does not fall at any specific time of the month, it
>changes year by year. Just a minor point that most school kids
>know...well, except probably the "home skuled".
>
>> the perfect harmony of the moon, at this time of year, to coincide with harvest time is to the
>
>Odd that "harvest time" depends on the type of crop. Or does your God
>make the harvest moon shine depending on who is harvesting what?
>Example, I live in a rich farmland the produces wheat. The harvest of
>Winter wheat begins usuallymid/late July, spring wheat follos that by
>about 2 weeks.

The man's mad - all it is, is that the full moon still reflects the
same amount of sunlight but as sunset gets earlier it adds enough
light to work in the fields on the sort of crops they grew a few
hundred years ago, a bit later for a few days.

And they took advantage of this.

I wouldn't be surprised if they planted their crops to take advantage
of it, because they knew how long they expected it to take to grow and
ripen.

This is in the more Northerly and Southerly latitudes where Summer
days are longer the further North you get.

Where I grew up, we still had daylight at 10 pm in mid-summer,

Something I missed when I moved to California where summer sunset was
much earlier.

San Francisco is 37% latitude

Now York City is 40.5%

England is 50-55%

Scotland 55-59%

Of course it is the opposite in Winter when the days were shorter and
the nights longer than where I now live.

Before modern mechanised farming, farmers used practically every
minute of daylight they could get during the growing season.
.


unset
Growing up in England we still had daylight
Nothing special.

No "perfect harmony".

What makes theists not just mind-bogglingly stupid but so in-your-face
with it?

Father Haskell

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Oct 13, 2011, 12:45:29 PM10/13/11
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On Oct 12, 1:03 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But.... I wanna be an Evolutionist so i can live as i
> like

Do whatever the fuck you want, nobody on Earth gives
half of a T5 phage's ass.

JohnN

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Oct 13, 2011, 10:03:14 PM10/13/11
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The Moon is full, the Moon is not full. You can't explain that!

JohnN

JohnN

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On Oct 13, 2:05 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Conan the bacterium" <deinococcus0radiodur...@gmail.com> skrev i
> meddelelsennews:bee717de-6110-4701...@r8g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

And Feminist cause killer frosts or locusts, I can never keep that
straight.

JohnN

Father Haskell

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Oct 13, 2011, 11:41:15 PM10/13/11
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Ah, let's see... it's Pazuzu who protects against miscarriage
and brings plagues of locusts...

harry k

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Oct 13, 2011, 11:55:06 PM10/13/11
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> JohnN- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

At least not so _he_ will get it. Love that big O for laughs.

Harry K

ken

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Dave (ilbebauck) said: "Post whatever questions you like. Just start a
new thread and make them clear and consise" [sic]

Dave is a LYING PIECE OF SHIT
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