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J
Nov 12, 2012, 5:03:29 PM11/12/12
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Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-vows-to-continue-fighting-for-traditional-marriage-despite-setbacks
ROME, November 12, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In an unusually strongly
worded statement on Vatican Radio’s website, Fr. Federico Lombardi, the
head of the Vatican’s press office, has vowed that the Church “will not
give up its defence of marriage” despite recent setbacks.
Lombardi’s comments followed a front-page editorial in the Vatican’s
newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano, which appeared the same day and decried
the growth of “politically correct ideologies invading every culture of
the world,” backed by organizations like the UN. The paper called for
“courage” from Catholics in fighting those ideologies.
The Church, said the editorial, “is the only institution to point out
that while it is certainly unfair to persecute homosexuals, to oppose
the marriage between persons of the same sex is not an offensive act,
but a point of view that must be respected.”
“And so is opposition to abortion,” it added. “This is not an attack on
human rights, but the defense of a social structure - the heterosexual
family - which formed the basis, so far, of all human societies.”
In a statement published in 30 different languages, Lombardi agreed,
writing that the Church’s opposition to same-sex “marriage” is not a
matter of unjust discrimination, which the Church does not allow. Rather
it is “a question of admitting that a husband and a wife are publicly
recognised as such; and that children who come into the world can know,
and say they have, a father and a mother.”
--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
http://www.americandecency.org/
Mitchell Holman
Nov 12, 2012, 5:42:11 PM11/12/12
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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:63oh8l....@news.alt.net:
>
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
> ally.
>
If the RCC wants further alienate people and
make itself even less relevant than it already is,
well, bring it on.
Reeling from sex-abuse scandals, the Roman Catholic
Church is losing members in droves.
How severe is the crisis? It’s "the largest institutional
crisis in centuries, possibly in church history," says
the National Catholic Reporter. Worldwide, the Roman
Catholic Church now has 1.1 billion members, compared
with 1.5 billion Muslims and 593 million Protestants.
In the U.S., all the major denominations have seen their
numbers decline in recent years, but the Catholic Church
has taken the biggest hit. Since the 1960s, four American-
born Catholics have left the church for every one who has
converted, according to a 2009 Pew study. In 2008 alone,
Catholic membership declined by 400,000. More than 1,000
parishes have closed since 1995, and the number of priests
has fallen from about 49,000 to 40,000 during that same
period. Some 3,400 Catholic parishes in the U.S. now lack
a resident priest. "Catholicism is in decline across
America," says sociologist David Carlin.
http://theweek.com/article/index/202388/catholics-in-crisis
>
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
> ally.
>
make itself even less relevant than it already is,
well, bring it on.
Reeling from sex-abuse scandals, the Roman Catholic
Church is losing members in droves.
How severe is the crisis? It’s "the largest institutional
crisis in centuries, possibly in church history," says
the National Catholic Reporter. Worldwide, the Roman
Catholic Church now has 1.1 billion members, compared
with 1.5 billion Muslims and 593 million Protestants.
In the U.S., all the major denominations have seen their
numbers decline in recent years, but the Catholic Church
has taken the biggest hit. Since the 1960s, four American-
born Catholics have left the church for every one who has
converted, according to a 2009 Pew study. In 2008 alone,
Catholic membership declined by 400,000. More than 1,000
parishes have closed since 1995, and the number of priests
has fallen from about 49,000 to 40,000 during that same
period. Some 3,400 Catholic parishes in the U.S. now lack
a resident priest. "Catholicism is in decline across
America," says sociologist David Carlin.
http://theweek.com/article/index/202388/catholics-in-crisis
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 12, 2012, 5:55:32 PM11/12/12
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In article <63oh8l....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
wrote:
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
Good.
The sooner the RCC makes itself COMPLETELY irrelevant, the better it
will be for the country. Indeed, for the world.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
wrote:
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
The sooner the RCC makes itself COMPLETELY irrelevant, the better it
will be for the country. Indeed, for the world.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 12, 2012, 6:03:43 PM11/12/12
to
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:42:11 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:63oh8l....@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
>> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
>> ally.
>
> If the RCC wants further alienate people and
>make itself even less relevant than it already is,
>well, bring it on.
All the churches that try to "reach out" to those outside their faith
<nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:63oh8l....@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
>> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
>> ally.
>
> If the RCC wants further alienate people and
>make itself even less relevant than it already is,
>well, bring it on.
but presume doctrines their target audience don't already believe, are
wasting their time, stupid and disrespectfully rude.
They're on to a loser because it turns off the audience who aren't
particularly interested in the first place.
Whether it's their doctrines about their god and their Jesus, or about
their hangups over contraception, abortion, rights for minorities they
hate, or anything else.
Or their rewriting history to spin their past and present evils
including their handling of the pedophile priest scandal, their
complicity in the spread of AIDS in third world countries, their
blackmail of elected representatives by threatening to excommunicate
them if they don't vote the Vatican line over things which are matters
of individual conscience for the voters who elected them.
>Reeling from sex-abuse scandals, the Roman Catholic
>Church is losing members in droves.
>
>How severe is the crisis? It’s "the largest institutional
>crisis in centuries, possibly in church history," says
>the National Catholic Reporter. Worldwide, the Roman
>Catholic Church now has 1.1 billion members, compared
>with 1.5 billion Muslims and 593 million Protestants.
>In the U.S., all the major denominations have seen their
>numbers decline in recent years, but the Catholic Church
>has taken the biggest hit. Since the 1960s, four American-
>born Catholics have left the church for every one who has
>converted, according to a 2009 Pew study. In 2008 alone,
>Catholic membership declined by 400,000. More than 1,000
>parishes have closed since 1995, and the number of priests
>has fallen from about 49,000 to 40,000 during that same
>period. Some 3,400 Catholic parishes in the U.S. now lack
>a resident priest. "Catholicism is in decline across
>America," says sociologist David Carlin.
>
>http://theweek.com/article/index/202388/catholics-in-crisis
with their appalling behaviour.
Syd M.
Nov 12, 2012, 6:26:35 PM11/12/12
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On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable.
Too bad you are still NOT normal, IBen.
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable.
You are an indecent, abnormal, bigoted person of the highest order.
PDW
Paul Duca
Nov 12, 2012, 6:47:01 PM11/12/12
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On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always do anything to pretend it has any relevance.
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> --
> J Young
> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
William Smith
Nov 12, 2012, 10:46:34 PM11/12/12
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Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
W.T.S.
Nov 13, 2012, 1:26:27 AM11/13/12
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In article <63oh8l....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
degeneracy. The Vatican shuns marriage, perhaps we all should too. The
long history of what the Vatican stands for is a matter of public
record, and decency isn't anywhere in the Vatican's history. As for
"J" being a pro-decency anything, that idea should be listed among the
most truly tasteless jokes of all time!
>
> http://www.LieSiteLies.com/Propaganda/Disinformation/Lies/Bigotry/Hate
>
<snip> Usual shit spew from the mouth of the Vatican, why bother to
repost such stinking filth? </snip>
>
Summary: The Vatican shuns marriage, but presumes to tell the rest of
us about how we should lead our lives. So, what else is new? End of
story.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
>
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
The only thing the Vatican has ever stood up for is sickness and
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
degeneracy. The Vatican shuns marriage, perhaps we all should too. The
long history of what the Vatican stands for is a matter of public
record, and decency isn't anywhere in the Vatican's history. As for
"J" being a pro-decency anything, that idea should be listed among the
most truly tasteless jokes of all time!
>
> http://www.LieSiteLies.com/Propaganda/Disinformation/Lies/Bigotry/Hate
>
<snip> Usual shit spew from the mouth of the Vatican, why bother to
repost such stinking filth? </snip>
>
Summary: The Vatican shuns marriage, but presumes to tell the rest of
us about how we should lead our lives. So, what else is new? End of
story.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
duke
Nov 13, 2012, 7:33:34 AM11/13/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:46:34 -0500, William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
Oh, bullshit.
>Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
If an unmarried man needs sex, he turns to a woman. The JJ report well states
that pedophilia amongst priests is less than the general population. That's
says you are more likely to be a pedo than a priest. So go home, boy.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
You can't fix stupid.
********************************************
duke
Nov 13, 2012, 7:40:58 AM11/13/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
Oh, it's much more than that. According to scripture, a marriage is a union
>
>Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
blessed by God until death between one man and one woman.
I'm not really concerned if 2 queers want a civil contract to butt ram each
other. But a marriage it isn't.
Marriage is a sacred union.
duke
Nov 13, 2012, 7:41:32 AM11/13/12
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>J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:63oh8l....@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
>> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
>> ally.
>>
>
>
> If the RCC wants further alienate people and
>make itself even less relevant than it already is,
>well, bring it on.
Hey, if you want to butt ram your buddy, go ahead.
>
>>
>> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
>> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
>> ally.
>>
>
>
> If the RCC wants further alienate people and
>make itself even less relevant than it already is,
>well, bring it on.
W.T.S.
Nov 13, 2012, 9:40:55 AM11/13/12
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In article <9df4a85emo8qphkkl...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> You can't fix stupid. The Vatican is living proof!
> ********************************************
Good point.
@cox.net says...
> ********************************************
Good point.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 13, 2012, 8:38:29 PM11/13/12
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In article <4vf4a8t1miu3cghvs...@4ax.com>,
no real answer?
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:42:11 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:63oh8l....@news.alt.net:
> >
> >>
> >> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> >> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> >> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> >> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
> >> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
> >> ally.
> >>
> >
> >
> > If the RCC wants further alienate people and
> >make itself even less relevant than it already is,
> >well, bring it on.
>
> Hey, if you want to butt ram your buddy, go ahead.
Why is your only answer to spew what you think is an insult? Do you have
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:42:11 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:63oh8l....@news.alt.net:
> >
> >>
> >> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> >> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> >> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> >> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why
> >> pro-decency atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an
> >> ally.
> >>
> >
> >
> > If the RCC wants further alienate people and
> >make itself even less relevant than it already is,
> >well, bring it on.
>
> Hey, if you want to butt ram your buddy, go ahead.
no real answer?
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 13, 2012, 8:39:15 PM11/13/12
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In article <opf4a8tceuhvpt647...@4ax.com>,
Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
rules?
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> >unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> >concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> >always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> >atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>
> Oh, it's much more than that. According to scripture, a marriage is a union
> blessed by God until death between one man and one woman.
>
> I'm not really concerned if 2 queers want a civil contract to butt ram each
> other. But a marriage it isn't.
>
> Marriage is a sacred union.
Sacred is forbidden by the Constitution.
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> >unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> >concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> >always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> >atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>
> Oh, it's much more than that. According to scripture, a marriage is a union
> blessed by God until death between one man and one woman.
>
> I'm not really concerned if 2 queers want a civil contract to butt ram each
> other. But a marriage it isn't.
>
> Marriage is a sacred union.
Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
rules?
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 13, 2012, 8:58:13 PM11/13/12
to
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 13, 2012, 8:58:38 PM11/13/12
to
Dakota
Nov 13, 2012, 9:26:23 PM11/13/12
to
find faults in other peoples houses.
Don Martin
Nov 14, 2012, 4:59:13 AM11/14/12
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William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
bent, no matter what their marital status.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
linuxgal
Nov 14, 2012, 7:21:42 AM11/14/12
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Don Martin wrote:
> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>
There will be exceptions, but by and large, if the priesthood accepted
> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>
married men, then the Church would not have to settle for the small
portion of the male population that is willing to accept a life without
women. Good money will drive out bad.
--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0
Mike Painter
Nov 14, 2012, 6:13:02 PM11/14/12
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>Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>
If they were that certain about it, then the pope should speak
>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>
ex-cathedra on the subject and hope that the history of sanctioned gay
marriages in the past does not come back to haunt them.
Birth control, priests marrying, gay marriage, all are things that the
church will never speak ex-cathedra on.
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig
Don Martin
Nov 14, 2012, 6:23:17 PM11/14/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:21:42 -0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote:
>Don Martin wrote:
>> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>>
>> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>>
>
>There will be exceptions, but by and large, if the priesthood accepted
>married men, then the Church would not have to settle for the small
>portion of the male population that is willing to accept a life without
>women. Good money will drive out bad.
Gresham's Law states the contrary. When was the last time you saw a
_silver_ quarter?
wrote:
>Don Martin wrote:
>> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>>
>> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>>
>
>There will be exceptions, but by and large, if the priesthood accepted
>married men, then the Church would not have to settle for the small
>portion of the male population that is willing to accept a life without
>women. Good money will drive out bad.
_silver_ quarter?
duke
Nov 14, 2012, 6:38:33 PM11/14/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:38:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
wrote:
duke
Nov 14, 2012, 6:39:30 PM11/14/12
to
change.
duke
Nov 14, 2012, 6:40:12 PM11/14/12
to
duke
Nov 14, 2012, 6:42:52 PM11/14/12
to
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:39:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>In article <opf4a8tceuhvpt647...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>> >unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>> >concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>> >always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>> >atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>>
>> Oh, it's much more than that. According to scripture, a marriage is a union
>> blessed by God until death between one man and one woman.
>>
>> I'm not really concerned if 2 queers want a civil contract to butt ram each
>> other. But a marriage it isn't.
>>
>> Marriage is a sacred union.
>Sacred is forbidden by the Constitution.
No, it's not.
>Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
>rules?
A majestic improvement to the US.
wrote:
>In article <opf4a8tceuhvpt647...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>> >unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>> >concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>> >always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>> >atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>>
>> Oh, it's much more than that. According to scripture, a marriage is a union
>> blessed by God until death between one man and one woman.
>>
>> I'm not really concerned if 2 queers want a civil contract to butt ram each
>> other. But a marriage it isn't.
>>
>> Marriage is a sacred union.
>Sacred is forbidden by the Constitution.
>Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
>rules?
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 14, 2012, 7:32:23 PM11/14/12
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In article <5va8a8p5ekdoh1i0p...@4ax.com>,
Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
rules?
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:39:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <opf4a8tceuhvpt647...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> >> >unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> >> >concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> >> >always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> >> >atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
> >>
> >> Oh, it's much more than that. According to scripture, a marriage is a
> >> union
> >> blessed by God until death between one man and one woman.
> >>
> >> I'm not really concerned if 2 queers want a civil contract to butt ram
> >> each
> >> other. But a marriage it isn't.
> >>
> >> Marriage is a sacred union.
> >Sacred is forbidden by the Constitution.
>
> No, it's not.
>
> >Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
> >rules?
>
> A majestic improvement to the US.
Deflection noted. Deflection rejected. Answer the question.
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:39:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <opf4a8tceuhvpt647...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> >> >unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> >> >concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> >> >always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> >> >atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
> >>
> >> Oh, it's much more than that. According to scripture, a marriage is a
> >> union
> >> blessed by God until death between one man and one woman.
> >>
> >> I'm not really concerned if 2 queers want a civil contract to butt ram
> >> each
> >> other. But a marriage it isn't.
> >>
> >> Marriage is a sacred union.
> >Sacred is forbidden by the Constitution.
>
> No, it's not.
>
> >Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
> >rules?
>
> A majestic improvement to the US.
Why do you think the United States should be ruled by your religious
rules?
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 14, 2012, 7:33:58 PM11/14/12
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In article <vra8a8lilnm77tod4...@4ax.com>,
And there's the tell.
We know dukie knows he's lost the argument because he breaks out the
insult that's not an insult.
We know dukie knows he's lost the argument because he breaks out the
insult that's not an insult.
duke
Nov 15, 2012, 7:42:29 AM11/15/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:33:58 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
We all already know you're a dyke.
duke
Nov 15, 2012, 7:44:42 AM11/15/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:13:02 -0800, Mike Painter <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>If they were that certain about it, then the pope should speak
>ex-cathedra on the subject and hope that the history of sanctioned gay
>marriages in the past does not come back to haunt them.
Ex-cathedra is not necessary. God already spoke personally on these issues.
>Birth control, priests marrying, gay marriage, all are things that the
>church will never speak ex-cathedra on.
Not necessary. Don't you know ANYTHING???
wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:29 -0800, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>If they were that certain about it, then the pope should speak
>ex-cathedra on the subject and hope that the history of sanctioned gay
>marriages in the past does not come back to haunt them.
>Birth control, priests marrying, gay marriage, all are things that the
>church will never speak ex-cathedra on.
The Chief Castrator Of The Jews
Nov 15, 2012, 9:22:59 AM11/15/12
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They should have seen this coming. The only way to win this culture
is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>
> http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-vows-to-continue-fighting-fo...
>
> ROME, November 12, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) In an unusually strongly
> worded statement on Vatican Radio s website, Fr. Federico Lombardi, the
> head of the Vatican s press office, has vowed that the Church will not
> give up its defence of marriage despite recent setbacks.
>
> Lombardi s comments followed a front-page editorial in the Vatican s
> newspaper, L Osservatore Romano, which appeared the same day and decried
> the growth of politically correct ideologies invading every culture of
> the world, backed by organizations like the UN. The paper called for
> courage from Catholics in fighting those ideologies.
>
> The Church, said the editorial, is the only institution to point out
> that while it is certainly unfair to persecute homosexuals, to oppose
> the marriage between persons of the same sex is not an offensive act,
> but a point of view that must be respected.
>
> And so is opposition to abortion, it added. This is not an attack on
> human rights, but the defense of a social structure - the heterosexual
> family - which formed the basis, so far, of all human societies.
>
> In a statement published in 30 different languages, Lombardi agreed,
> writing that the Church s opposition to same-sex marriage is not a
> matter of unjust discrimination, which the Church does not allow. Rather
> it is a question of admitting that a husband and a wife are publicly
> recognised as such; and that children who come into the world can know,
> and say they have, a father and a mother.
>
> --
> J Young
> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> http://www.americandecency.org/
is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
> Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
> unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
> concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
> always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
> atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
>
>
> ROME, November 12, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) In an unusually strongly
> worded statement on Vatican Radio s website, Fr. Federico Lombardi, the
> head of the Vatican s press office, has vowed that the Church will not
> give up its defence of marriage despite recent setbacks.
>
> Lombardi s comments followed a front-page editorial in the Vatican s
> newspaper, L Osservatore Romano, which appeared the same day and decried
> the growth of politically correct ideologies invading every culture of
> the world, backed by organizations like the UN. The paper called for
> courage from Catholics in fighting those ideologies.
>
> The Church, said the editorial, is the only institution to point out
> that while it is certainly unfair to persecute homosexuals, to oppose
> the marriage between persons of the same sex is not an offensive act,
> but a point of view that must be respected.
>
> And so is opposition to abortion, it added. This is not an attack on
> human rights, but the defense of a social structure - the heterosexual
> family - which formed the basis, so far, of all human societies.
>
> In a statement published in 30 different languages, Lombardi agreed,
> writing that the Church s opposition to same-sex marriage is not a
> matter of unjust discrimination, which the Church does not allow. Rather
> it is a question of admitting that a husband and a wife are publicly
> recognised as such; and that children who come into the world can know,
> and say they have, a father and a mother.
>
> --
> J Young
> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> http://www.americandecency.org/
sbalneav
Nov 15, 2012, 10:15:46 AM11/15/12
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Guess who I'd choose in a heartbeat?
--
__ _ | I go about looking at horses and cattle. They eat grass, make
(_ |_) | love, work when they have to, bear their young. I am sick
__)|_) | with envy of them. -- Sherwood Anderson
Malcolm McMahon
Nov 15, 2012, 10:17:18 AM11/15/12
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On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 09:59:14 UTC, Don Martin wrote:
> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>
> > Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>
> > scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
>
>
> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>
> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>
> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>
>
>
Think is, if celibacy is demanded of Priests, the group will self-select for those without a strong sex drive, or who believe themselves to have no pressing need for sex.
> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>
> > Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>
> > scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
>
>
> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>
> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>
> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>
>
>
Most of these will probably be people who are naturally asexual, but some will be those ignorant of, or in denial about, their own sexuality.
Then, of course, you put them in a position of authority over children.
Of course some will be attracted to the profession by that "fringe benefit".
Malcolm McMahon
Nov 15, 2012, 10:35:46 AM11/15/12
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On Monday, 12 November 2012 22:03:32 UTC, J wrote:
Happily, we haven't had truly traditional marriage in Europe or the US for nearly a century.
Traditional marriage involved what was called "civil death" where the woman, essentially, ceased to be an independent entity in law, and became an appendage to the husband.
No doubt the Vatican supports that tradition. Fortunately, as a society, we've moved on, leaving them bumping along a century or so behind.
Happily, we haven't had truly traditional marriage in Europe or the US for nearly a century.
Traditional marriage involved what was called "civil death" where the woman, essentially, ceased to be an independent entity in law, and became an appendage to the husband.
No doubt the Vatican supports that tradition. Fortunately, as a society, we've moved on, leaving them bumping along a century or so behind.
Alan Ferris
Nov 15, 2012, 2:21:04 PM11/15/12
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>Although the voting tally is now 33-4, any setback to normalcy is
>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
Pro-decency.....you consider child molesters as your ally. That truly says it
>unacceptable. The atheist and religious communities seem willing to
>concede to the homos, with one exception; the RCC. The Vatican will
>always stand-up for what is best for society and that is why pro-decency
>atheists like myself will always accept the RCC as an ally.
all.
--
Ferrit
()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")
Alan Ferris
Nov 15, 2012, 2:21:41 PM11/15/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:41:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> If the RCC wants further alienate people and
>>make itself even less relevant than it already is,
>>well, bring it on.
>
>Hey, if you want to butt ram your buddy, go ahead.
----
>> If the RCC wants further alienate people and
>>make itself even less relevant than it already is,
>>well, bring it on.
>
>Hey, if you want to butt ram your buddy, go ahead.
"He lets you hang a noose around your gonads and jump if that's what you want."
duke (Earl Weber) explaining sex with Barker
Alan Ferris
Nov 15, 2012, 2:27:13 PM11/15/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:33:34 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>The JJ report well states
>that pedophilia amongst priests is less than the general population
Liar. It has since been updated.
>The JJ report well states
>that pedophilia amongst priests is less than the general population
duke
Nov 15, 2012, 3:43:01 PM11/15/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:59:13 GMT, Don Martin <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
>Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>bent, no matter what their marital status.
These clowns just don't understand that it's a sickness, not an unmarried's
>William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
>Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>bent, no matter what their marital status.
problem.
duke
Nov 15, 2012, 3:44:31 PM11/15/12
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>Don Martin wrote:
>> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>>
>> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>>
>
>There will be exceptions, but by and large, if the priesthood accepted
>married men, then the Church would not have to settle for the small
>portion of the male population that is willing to accept a life without
>women. Good money will drive out bad.
Priests were once married, then applied celibacy to themselves, and will once
>> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>>> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>>> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>>
>> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>>
>
>There will be exceptions, but by and large, if the priesthood accepted
>married men, then the Church would not have to settle for the small
>portion of the male population that is willing to accept a life without
>women. Good money will drive out bad.
again embrace marriage when the congregations accept it. As stated by my
priest.
duke
Nov 15, 2012, 3:48:27 PM11/15/12
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:17:18 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon
<malcol...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 09:59:14 UTC, Don Martin wrote:
>> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>>
>> > scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>>
>> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>>
>> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Think is, if celibacy is demanded of Priests, the group will self-select
> for those without a strong sex drive, or who believe themselves to have no
>pressing need for sex.
Priests don't select priests; men elect to pursue the priesthood.
<malcol...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 14 November 2012 09:59:14 UTC, Don Martin wrote:
>> William Smith <smi...@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
>>
>> > scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
>>
>> Pennsylvania football coach, did it? psychologically bent people remain
>>
>> bent, no matter what their marital status.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Think is, if celibacy is demanded of Priests, the group will self-select
> for those without a strong sex drive, or who believe themselves to have no
>pressing need for sex.
Needless to say, the huge majority of the problem came form priests that entered
at 13 years old - the traditional path of old. There's no way they understood
their sexuality in this age of the pill and half naked women walking the
streets. Pedophilia is a totally different issue than men chasing skirts.
And today's candidates are, in many cases, college graduates and older including
widows.
>
>Most of these will probably be people who are naturally asexual, but some will be those ignorant of, or in denial about, their own sexuality.
>
>Then, of course, you put them in a position of authority over children.
>
>Of course some will be attracted to the profession by that "fringe benefit".
>
duke
Nov 15, 2012, 3:54:28 PM11/15/12
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duke
Nov 15, 2012, 3:55:14 PM11/15/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:32:23 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
It's not. Why do you think it is? Oh, never mind. You can't think anyway.
Budikka666
Nov 15, 2012, 5:15:10 PM11/15/12
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For everyone except its own priests! lol! Hypocrites, every single
last one of them.
Budikka
last one of them.
Budikka
Brian E. Clark
Nov 15, 2012, 5:19:21 PM11/15/12
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In article <1128388920374496378.966375drdonmartin-
comca...@news20.forteinc.com>, drdon...@comcast.net
says...
> > Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> > scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
> Pennsylvania football coach, did it?
I don't think anyone is claiming that marriage cures
pedophilia.
Rather, they're saying that in rejecting men who want or
need a normal sex life, the RCC reduces its pool of
applicants to the priesthood so much that the remainder
must include a disproportionate number of pedophiles and
other harmful types.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
comca...@news20.forteinc.com>, drdon...@comcast.net
says...
> > Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> > scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
>
> Stop paedophilia scandals? Being married did not slow down that
> Pennsylvania football coach, did it?
pedophilia.
Rather, they're saying that in rejecting men who want or
need a normal sex life, the RCC reduces its pool of
applicants to the priesthood so much that the remainder
must include a disproportionate number of pedophiles and
other harmful types.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 15, 2012, 5:24:01 PM11/15/12
to
married or even woman ministers - indeed they are better at the
ministering and community aspects of the job.
A while back on the BBC World Service an ex-priest was interviewed,
who pointed out that priests learned about human relationships from
the confessional not from experience, so that even the decent ones got
a skewed idea of life.
The RCC needs to bring itself up to date in so many areas.
Fred^44
Nov 15, 2012, 7:05:36 PM11/15/12
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If more Christianic Republicans were raped by their priests, maybe more
of them would be *opposed* to Christianic rape of children.
of them would be *opposed* to Christianic rape of children.
Dakota
Nov 15, 2012, 9:30:15 PM11/15/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Nov 15, 2012, 10:57:31 PM11/15/12
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In article <jklaa89jt0qqf66cq...@4ax.com>,
Of course it's not. But it takes complete and total dedication from
those working to make sure it never is.
You're the one DEMANDING that the United States be ruled by your
Catholic rules.
those working to make sure it never is.
You're the one DEMANDING that the United States be ruled by your
Catholic rules.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 15, 2012, 10:58:15 PM11/15/12
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In article <ioo9a85brecvk7jdp...@4ax.com>,
Of course you don't.
You think you're insulting me by calling me gay, but it's not an insult.
It's just another one of your lies.
You think you're insulting me by calling me gay, but it's not an insult.
It's just another one of your lies.
duke
Nov 16, 2012, 7:11:59 AM11/16/12
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:58:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
No, you clearly said you wouldn't mind being called a dyke, dyke. I think it's
clear you are one gleefully.
clear you are one gleefully.
duke
Nov 16, 2012, 7:16:07 AM11/16/12
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:57:31 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Where? JD, you're showing your foolishness again.
You accuse us, I say we're not, you concur, then you turn right around and
accuse us again. You really are mentally challenged, aren't you.
You accuse us, I say we're not, you concur, then you turn right around and
accuse us again. You really are mentally challenged, aren't you.
duke
Nov 16, 2012, 7:16:52 AM11/16/12
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:22:59 -0800 (PST), The Chief Castrator Of The Jews
<Codeb...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
>On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>They should have seen this coming. The only way to win this culture
>is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
>But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
Rule #1 - intelligent posters never top-post.
<Codeb...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
>On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>They should have seen this coming. The only way to win this culture
>is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
>But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
Tim
Nov 16, 2012, 7:30:15 AM11/16/12
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"duke" wrote in message news:eabca85djakm1gb78...@4ax.com...
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:58:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>Of course you don't.
>You think you're insulting me by calling me gay, but it's not an insult.
>It's just another one of your lies.
No, you clearly said you wouldn't mind being called a dyke, dyke. I think
it's
clear you are one gleefully.
----------------------
>You think you're insulting me by calling me gay, but it's not an insult.
>It's just another one of your lies.
No, you clearly said you wouldn't mind being called a dyke, dyke. I think
it's
clear you are one gleefully.
No, what is clear is that you are fat and a homophobe. I thought your
imaginary sky pixie was all for love of one's neighbours and against
gluttony and sloth, who are you to question that, lard butt?
http://tinyurl.com/b9vvz45
Tim
Nov 16, 2012, 7:32:25 AM11/16/12
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"duke" wrote in message news:qta8a8lum04sbbv5m...@4ax.com...
Our house has already been cleaned. The only thing left is some OLD dirt.
------------------
Yeah, time the papacy was ousted. Why do you need some old nazi to guide
you?
linuxgal
Nov 16, 2012, 9:19:24 AM11/16/12
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Tim wrote:
>
>
> "duke" wrote in message news:eabca85djakm1gb78...@4ax.com...
>
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:58:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Of course you don't.
>> You think you're insulting me by calling me gay, but it's not an insult.
>> It's just another one of your lies.
>
> No, you clearly said you wouldn't mind being called a dyke, dyke.
She doesn't mind being called a dyke, but it's still a lie to call her
>
>
> "duke" wrote in message news:eabca85djakm1gb78...@4ax.com...
>
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:58:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Of course you don't.
>> You think you're insulting me by calling me gay, but it's not an insult.
>> It's just another one of your lies.
>
> No, you clearly said you wouldn't mind being called a dyke, dyke.
one. And liars hath no share in the Second Life.
--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0
Fred^44
Nov 16, 2012, 3:16:32 PM11/16/12
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a top child rapist at the BBC. Fucking Christians.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 16, 2012, 4:56:30 PM11/16/12
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In article <mkbca81su8f413vta...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:22:59 -0800 (PST), The Chief Castrator Of The Jews
> <Codeb...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >
> >They should have seen this coming. The only way to win this culture
> >is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
> >But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
>
> Rule #1 - intelligent posters never top-post.
Ahhhh, something we agree on.
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:22:59 -0800 (PST), The Chief Castrator Of The Jews
> <Codeb...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >
> >They should have seen this coming. The only way to win this culture
> >is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
> >But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
>
> Rule #1 - intelligent posters never top-post.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 16, 2012, 4:57:59 PM11/16/12
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In article <nfbca8l0vu965c7o4...@4ax.com>,
So you're supporting abortion rights?
If you're supporting making abortion illegal, you are indeed trying to
force the United States to be ruled by your Catholic rules.
If you're supporting making abortion illegal, you are indeed trying to
force the United States to be ruled by your Catholic rules.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 16, 2012, 4:58:29 PM11/16/12
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duke
Nov 18, 2012, 4:53:50 PM11/18/12
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:58:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
That's the way I see it, jenie dyke. You said it. You receive it.
duke
Nov 18, 2012, 4:55:07 PM11/18/12
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:57:59 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Strawman.
>If you're supporting making abortion illegal, you are indeed trying to
>force the United States to be ruled by your Catholic rules.
It's not Catholic rules, it's God's rules, heathen dyke.
>If you're supporting making abortion illegal, you are indeed trying to
>force the United States to be ruled by your Catholic rules.
duke
Nov 18, 2012, 4:55:41 PM11/18/12
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:56:30 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>In article <mkbca81su8f413vta...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:22:59 -0800 (PST), The Chief Castrator Of The Jews
>> <Codeb...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >They should have seen this coming. The only way to win this culture
>> >is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
>> >But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
>>
>> Rule #1 - intelligent posters never top-post.
>
>Ahhhh, something we agree on.
Why didn't you tell him before. He's your friend, not mine.
wrote:
>In article <mkbca81su8f413vta...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 06:22:59 -0800 (PST), The Chief Castrator Of The Jews
>> <Codeb...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 12, 5:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >They should have seen this coming. The only way to win this culture
>> >is to involve the Caesars of this world in the Godly things.
>> >But unfortunately Peter took wants to run everything LOL
>>
>> Rule #1 - intelligent posters never top-post.
>
>Ahhhh, something we agree on.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 18, 2012, 8:07:15 PM11/18/12
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In article <o7mia8pvnv19d1g76...@4ax.com>,
Who cares? It's unconstitutional to make Americans live by ANYbody's
religious rules.
religious rules.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 18, 2012, 8:08:04 PM11/18/12
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In article <66mia8t21ervsnudq...@4ax.com>,
Who's this Jenie person? Are you cheating on Jenny, your imaginary
girlfriend?
girlfriend?
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 18, 2012, 8:12:10 PM11/18/12
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Why does the imbecile imagine everybody else is bound by his deluded
fantasies?
Oh, it's Puke.
That explains it.
W.T.S.
Nov 18, 2012, 8:29:42 PM11/18/12
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In article <o7mia8pvnv19d1g76...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
"God"? Oh! You mean the Pope's sock puppet.
>
> The pukester, Catholic Stool.
> ********************************************
> You can't fix stupid. Thus, the Catholic
> Church is doomed.
> ********************************************
For more truth, follow the links below:
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
@cox.net says...
>
> The pukester, Catholic Stool.
> ********************************************
> You can't fix stupid. Thus, the Catholic
> Church is doomed.
> ********************************************
For more truth, follow the links below:
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
W.T.S.
Nov 18, 2012, 8:32:42 PM11/18/12
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In article <hlwdjsd2-48BF12...@news.giganews.com>, hlwdjsd2
@NOSPAMgmail.com says...
@NOSPAMgmail.com says...
"God"? Oh! You mean the Pope's sock puppet.
>
>
> Who cares? It's unconstitutional to make Americans live by ANYbody's
> religious rules.
>
For more of the truth, follow the links below:
> religious rules.
>
duke
Nov 19, 2012, 8:03:19 AM11/19/12
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:08:04 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
No, she's cheating on you.
duke
Nov 19, 2012, 8:05:09 AM11/19/12
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:07:15 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
As much so as it's unconstitutional to make Americans live by non-religious
rules.
rules.
duke
Nov 19, 2012, 8:09:16 AM11/19/12
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for 70 years or so, and then your judgment. It's just that simple. Living
according to God's call is so easy and so wonderful. But, what the hell, it's
your skin, not mine.
Gosh, it's so sad that people like you live life for the benefits of broken
bones, death, war, pestilence, murder, torture, and the like and call that "fun"
because it's the best you're going to get.
Alan Ferris
Nov 19, 2012, 11:56:01 AM11/19/12
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:08:04 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>> That's the way I see it, jenie dyke. You said it. You receive it.
>
>Who's this Jenie person? Are you cheating on Jenny, your imaginary
>girlfriend?
Jenie is what he calls himself when he puts on his mums old clothing.
----
"Where is the country of Many found in the world?"
"I never heard of the country of Many."
- duke (Earl J Weber)
----
wrote:
>> That's the way I see it, jenie dyke. You said it. You receive it.
>
>Who's this Jenie person? Are you cheating on Jenny, your imaginary
>girlfriend?
----
"Where is the country of Many found in the world?"
"I never heard of the country of Many."
- duke (Earl J Weber)
----
Alan Ferris
Nov 19, 2012, 11:57:33 AM11/19/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 07:09:16 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>Living according to God's call is so easy and so wonderful.
So why do you fail so miserably at it?
>Living according to God's call is so easy and so wonderful.
----
"You embarrass me, Earl. If the Church were even halfway what your
example presents it to be, I'd have left a long time ago."
- Fr R Dye
----
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 19, 2012, 8:24:03 PM11/19/12
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In article <3hbka8ho2q92sihe3...@4ax.com>,
Who's forcing you to live by non-religious rules?
If you think abortion is immoral, then don't get an abortion. But your
feelings are irrelevant to anybody who doesn't share your religious
views.
If you think abortion is immoral, then don't get an abortion. But your
feelings are irrelevant to anybody who doesn't share your religious
views.
duke
Nov 20, 2012, 7:48:15 AM11/20/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:24:03 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Not in my community, my city, my state, my country, my taxes.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 20, 2012, 6:23:28 PM11/20/12
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In article <jtuma8pll9rhflvbo...@4ax.com>,
Why do you hate the Constitution?
Why do you hate America?
Why do you hate America?
duke
Nov 21, 2012, 8:04:38 AM11/21/12
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:23:28 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
God's court overrides the US Constitution. Why do you hate God?
W.T.S.
Nov 21, 2012, 11:29:30 AM11/21/12
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In article <09kpa81u34m7d939m...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
"God"? Oh, you mean the Pope's sock puppet!
>
For more truth, follow the links below:
@cox.net says...
>
For more truth, follow the links below:
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 21, 2012, 2:56:50 PM11/21/12
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Christopher A. Lee
Nov 21, 2012, 3:06:28 PM11/21/12
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:56:50 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
This is what makes the religious dangerous - they think they are above
the law.
>How can I hate something I don't think exists?
There's a showdown coming in Ireland because the RCC has refused to
recognise a new the law removing confessional privilege in pedophile
cases.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-priests-say-they-will-disobey-new-confession-box-law-on-child-abuse-149029005.html
Irish priests have vowed to defy a new law forcing them to report
details of sexual abuse revealed in the confessional box.
Ireland’s Justice Minister Alan Shatter is to introduce new
legislation which will force the clergy to reveal all details
disclosed in confession.
But priests have vowed to defy the law despite the threat of a 10-year
jail sentence after the introduction of the mandatory reporting
legislation.
The 800 strong Association of Catholic Priests has even told the Irish
Independent newspaper that its members will flout the Shatter law.
the law.
>How can I hate something I don't think exists?
recognise a new the law removing confessional privilege in pedophile
cases.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-priests-say-they-will-disobey-new-confession-box-law-on-child-abuse-149029005.html
Irish priests have vowed to defy a new law forcing them to report
details of sexual abuse revealed in the confessional box.
Ireland’s Justice Minister Alan Shatter is to introduce new
legislation which will force the clergy to reveal all details
disclosed in confession.
But priests have vowed to defy the law despite the threat of a 10-year
jail sentence after the introduction of the mandatory reporting
legislation.
The 800 strong Association of Catholic Priests has even told the Irish
Independent newspaper that its members will flout the Shatter law.
duke
Nov 22, 2012, 8:23:58 AM11/22/12
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:56:50 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
How can you be so stupid to think that?
duke
Nov 22, 2012, 8:25:07 AM11/22/12
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Alan Ferris
Nov 22, 2012, 1:24:35 PM11/22/12
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keeping their silence, protecting those who rape children.
Strange that you and your church ignore your supposed gods view on those who
rape children. But then you have your own reason for wanting to protect child
rapists:
"Ever wonder how many male parents teasingly pinched their
young daughters on their newly budding breasts, or female
parents "touch" their young son's genitals in just the
wrong way - only now to have to stand accused of a charge
of sexual molestation of children."
- duke (Earl J Weber)
"only a fool fails to understand that a lot of fathers
teasingly pinch their daughters and mothers teasingly touch
their sons. It's called child molestation outside the
family unit."
- duke (Earl J Weber)
"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching
nipples (pre breast type) and comparing how that's quite
alright in a family setting but clearly and quickly labeled
as child molestation outside the family setting."
- duke (Earl J Weber)
"As I've stated before, the comment is from a ng discussion
addressing a double standard - what is considered "ok" in
the family setting quickly becomes molestation by an outsider.
You can see that in the comment itself."
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 22, 2012, 2:58:51 PM11/22/12
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In article <kq9sa899opdktm6a0...@4ax.com>,
Think what? That I don't see any reason to believe that ANY god exists
(no evidence, obviously) or that I can't hate something I don't think
exists?
(no evidence, obviously) or that I can't hate something I don't think
exists?
duke
Nov 23, 2012, 11:25:39 AM11/23/12
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:58:51 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
You're clearly blind in thinking that.
•RLMeasures
Dec 1, 2012, 3:41:56 PM12/1/12
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In article <k7sfqr$1uo$1...@dont-email.me>, William Smith
<smi...@example.net> wrote:
> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
• but they won't because the claim of infallibility breeds hubris.
<smi...@example.net> wrote:
> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
• but they won't because the claim of infallibility breeds hubris.
duke
Dec 2, 2012, 9:52:15 AM12/2/12
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•RLMeasures
Dec 2, 2012, 10:27:51 AM12/2/12
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In article <koqmb8tcjj5nefi19...@4ax.com>, duke
bottomless pit.
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:41:56 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <k7sfqr$1uo$1...@dont-email.me>, William Smith
> ><smi...@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> >> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
> >
> >• but they won't because the claim of infallibility breeds hubris.
>
> Just about bottomed out.
>
• For those who issue supposedly holy writs,. hubris is like unto a
> On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:41:56 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <k7sfqr$1uo$1...@dont-email.me>, William Smith
> ><smi...@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Unless priests are allowed to marry (and that will stop paedophilia
> >> scandals), RCC should shut up about marriage.
> >
> >• but they won't because the claim of infallibility breeds hubris.
>
> Just about bottomed out.
>
bottomless pit.
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