<just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)ho...@yahoo.co> wrote:

>"Alan Ferris" <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 9 May 2012 22:55:16 -0700, Rockinghorse Winner
>> <badass.super...@gmx.com> wrote:

>>>Does religious feeling have to include an experience of 'God?' Is
>>>religious
>>>feeling incompatible with atheism?  Can a religious experience ever
>>>contradict previously held religious beliefs rather than be interpreted in
>>>terms of those beliefs?  Thoughts?  Ideas?

>> I assisted with videoing a photographing at an evangelical rally over
>> a week where thousands of Christians turned up each day and each
>> evening there was a massed service.  Now my friend kept telling me
>> that it was amazing the feeling of Jesus's presence, he could fee a
>> real buzz every evening.  I to could feel a buzz, but I recognised it
>> for what it was.  It is the same buzz you get at a concert or major
>> sports final.  That smell of adrenaline causing your own body to
>> respond as well.  So, you would call that Jesus, I just call it a
>> massed public response.

>Are you so sure you were experiencing the same things he was?

>> One laugh I had was the visiting pastor one evening who came from an
>> American healing church and tried to claim my knee.....when there was
>> absolutely no reaction or change I was blamed for not having faith.
>> The look on his face when I reminded him that it was his faith that
>> mattered when it comes to healing left me laughing all the way home.

>> What it really meant was that as I did not believe in his god I was
>> not suckered by his lines  and did not fall for being fleeced.