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J
Mar 30, 2012, 11:43:32 PM3/30/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Mar 31, 2012, 12:13:23 AM3/31/12
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In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
wrote:
> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
Oh, good grief.
Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
wrote:
> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
Oh, good grief.
Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
W.T.S.
Mar 31, 2012, 2:24:52 AM3/31/12
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In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, jdyo...@ymail.com says...
>
"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand? Or, do
you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever
and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand? Or, do
you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever
and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
John Baker
Mar 31, 2012, 3:08:42 AM3/31/12
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:13:23 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
>Oh, good grief.
>
>Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
The only woman with a pulse who'd never argue with him and never say
<hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
>Oh, good grief.
>
>Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
no to him.
duke
Mar 31, 2012, 8:20:33 AM3/31/12
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, jdyo...@ymail.com says...
>"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, jdyo...@ymail.com says...
>"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
> Or, do
>you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever
>and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
death.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
Don Martin
Mar 31, 2012, 9:31:44 AM3/31/12
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:13:23 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net>
wrote:
wrote:
>In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
>Oh, good grief.
>
>Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
Only a brain-dead woman would have him.
>wrote:
>
>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
>Oh, good grief.
>
>Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
HVAC
Mar 31, 2012, 8:36:51 AM3/31/12
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On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>
>
> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> death.
Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>
>
> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> death.
conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
sbalneav
Mar 31, 2012, 11:45:00 AM3/31/12
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Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
just let her go.
Because "Terri" was already gone.
I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
medical intervention other than painkillers.
You'd think it would be the other way around.
Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
just let her go.
Because "Terri" was already gone.
I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
medical intervention other than painkillers.
You'd think it would be the other way around.
Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
Daniel Hoehr
Apr 1, 2012, 2:49:43 AM4/1/12
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Am 31.03.2012 14:36, schrieb HVAC:
> On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life
>> support
>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved
>> her to
>> death.
>
>
> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
No. Clearly not.
> On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life
>> support
>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved
>> her to
>> death.
>
>
> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
DH
W.T.S.
Apr 1, 2012, 7:07:19 AM4/1/12
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In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it? Now, crawl back into that
dark, wet hole you call the Catholic Church and dream up some new
disinformation, propaganda and lies.
For now, you stand as living proof that there is no "God". If there was
a "God" this would happen to your family and you would be forced to
watch as your sick, degenerate religious Doctrine and Dogma crushed your
family, and all that you ever worked or lived for, into the dirt!
by her Doctors, and then by the autopsy. Go dream up some new lies and
disinformation.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Liar.
@cox.net says...
> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>
> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>
> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>
> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it? Now, crawl back into that
dark, wet hole you call the Catholic Church and dream up some new
disinformation, propaganda and lies.
For now, you stand as living proof that there is no "God". If there was
a "God" this would happen to your family and you would be forced to
watch as your sick, degenerate religious Doctrine and Dogma crushed your
family, and all that you ever worked or lived for, into the dirt!
>
> > Or, do
> >you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever
> >and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
>
> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> death.
She was brain dead, pure and simple. It was proven several times over
> > Or, do
> >you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever
> >and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
>
> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> death.
by her Doctors, and then by the autopsy. Go dream up some new lies and
disinformation.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Liar.
W.T.S.
Apr 1, 2012, 7:17:17 AM4/1/12
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In article <jl78ps$5jj$3...@dont-email.me>, sbal...@alburg.net says...
>
> In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://tiny.cc/q6u0ew
Thanks, good points.
>
> In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://tiny.cc/q6u0ew
duke
Apr 1, 2012, 9:44:20 AM4/1/12
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:36:51 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
>> death.
>Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
>> death.
>Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
At the same time, suicide should never be rewarded by paid medical bills,
insurance payouts, etc, ie, if you take your own life, death benefits are no
longer required.
duke
Apr 1, 2012, 9:46:42 AM4/1/12
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>
>> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>>
>> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
>dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>>
>> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>>
>> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
>dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
on her own with a heart beat.
> Now, crawl back into that
>dark, wet hole you call the Catholic Church and dream up some new
>disinformation, propaganda and lies.
duke
Apr 1, 2012, 9:47:35 AM4/1/12
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>In alt.atheism J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
She wasn't brain dead.
>In alt.atheism J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>just let her go.
>
>Because "Terri" was already gone.
>I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
>more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
>While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
>the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
>medical intervention other than painkillers.
>
>You'd think it would be the other way around.
>
>Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
duke
Apr 1, 2012, 9:47:57 AM4/1/12
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:17:17 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <jl78ps$5jj$3...@dont-email.me>, sbal...@alburg.net says...
>>
>> In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > http://tiny.cc/q6u0ew
>>
>> Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>> out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>>
>> We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>> but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>> death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>> heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>> that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>> just let her go.
>>
>> Because "Terri" was already gone.
>>
>> I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
>> more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
>> While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
>> the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
>> medical intervention other than painkillers.
>>
>> You'd think it would be the other way around.
>>
>> Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
>
>Thanks, good points.
You're a fool.
>In article <jl78ps$5jj$3...@dont-email.me>, sbal...@alburg.net says...
>>
>> In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > http://tiny.cc/q6u0ew
>>
>> Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>> out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>>
>> We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>> but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>> death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>> heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>> that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>> just let her go.
>>
>> Because "Terri" was already gone.
>>
>> I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
>> more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
>> While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
>> the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
>> medical intervention other than painkillers.
>>
>> You'd think it would be the other way around.
>>
>> Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
>
>Thanks, good points.
W.T.S.
Apr 1, 2012, 10:23:25 AM4/1/12
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In article <0pmgn7l6otf28hrcc...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
want the family punished as much as possible. Never mind the terminally
ill person is now beyond your reach.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
@cox.net says...
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:36:51 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> >> death.
>
> >Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
> At the same time, suicide should never be rewarded by paid medical bills,
> insurance payouts, etc, ie, if you take your own life, death benefits are no
> longer required.
In other words, if the terminally ill person doesn't suffer enough, you
>
> >On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> >> death.
>
> >Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
> At the same time, suicide should never be rewarded by paid medical bills,
> insurance payouts, etc, ie, if you take your own life, death benefits are no
> longer required.
want the family punished as much as possible. Never mind the terminally
ill person is now beyond your reach.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
HVAC
Apr 1, 2012, 10:27:04 AM4/1/12
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On 4/1/2012 9:44 AM, duke wrote:
>
>
>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
>
>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
Paul Duca
Apr 1, 2012, 10:32:17 AM4/1/12
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On Apr 1, 9:44 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> just as God never rewards natural death.
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:36:51 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> >> death.
> >Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
> At the same time, suicide should never be rewarded,
> >On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> >> death.
> >Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
> just as God never rewards natural death.
W.T.S.
Apr 1, 2012, 10:32:45 AM4/1/12
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In article <8umgn752tqql3aph6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
itself? She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought
was left. There was nothing left that could ever recover. Neither you
nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was
simply dead! She could never, ever again think, speak, sleep, dream,
_nothing_ was left but an absolute vegetable.
The brain can never regrow or heal, you stupid, Catholic con man!
> puke, CatholiKKK Con Man - Sadist.
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >>
> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
> >>
> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>
> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
>
> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
> on her own with a heart beat.
Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >>
> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
> >>
> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>
> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
>
> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
> on her own with a heart beat.
itself? She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought
was left. There was nothing left that could ever recover. Neither you
nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was
simply dead! She could never, ever again think, speak, sleep, dream,
_nothing_ was left but an absolute vegetable.
The brain can never regrow or heal, you stupid, Catholic con man!
Paul Duca
Apr 1, 2012, 10:31:21 AM4/1/12
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>
> DH
W.T.S.
Apr 1, 2012, 10:39:16 AM4/1/12
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In article <k2ngn7hgdmckrv6ft...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> >In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://tiny.cc/q2m0gw
confirmed the judgment of more than a few Doctors!
Crawl back into your dark, wet hiding place you call the Catholic Church
and dream up new lies and disinformation to destroy the lives and
futures of strangers. It's what you and your "Church" do, "duke".
dead.
@cox.net says...
> >In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://tiny.cc/q2m0gw
> >
> >Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>
> She wasn't brain dead.
Yes, she was, "duke", you stupid, little CatholiKKK liar! The autopsy
> >Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>
> She wasn't brain dead.
confirmed the judgment of more than a few Doctors!
Crawl back into your dark, wet hiding place you call the Catholic Church
and dream up new lies and disinformation to destroy the lives and
futures of strangers. It's what you and your "Church" do, "duke".
>
> >We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
> >but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
> >death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
> >heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
> >that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
> >just let her go.
> >
> >Because "Terri" was already gone.
>
> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
No, she was dead, "duke", no matter how many lies you dream up, she was
> >We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
> >but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
> >death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
> >heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
> >that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
> >just let her go.
> >
> >Because "Terri" was already gone.
>
> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
dead.
>
> >I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
> >more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
> >While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
> >the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
> >medical intervention other than painkillers.
> >
> >You'd think it would be the other way around.
> >
> >Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist - Con man.
> >I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
> >more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
> >While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
> >the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
> >medical intervention other than painkillers.
> >
> >You'd think it would be the other way around.
> >
> >Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
>
duke
Apr 1, 2012, 5:29:14 PM4/1/12
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:27:04 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/1/2012 9:44 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>
>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
That's not what I said.
>On 4/1/2012 9:44 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>
>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
duke
Apr 1, 2012, 5:35:42 PM4/1/12
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:32:45 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <8umgn752tqql3aph6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>> >>
>> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>> >>
>> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>>
>> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
>> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
>>
>> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>> on her own with a heart beat.
>Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain
>itself?
The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>In article <8umgn752tqql3aph6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>> >>
>> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>> >>
>> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>>
>> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
>> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
>>
>> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>> on her own with a heart beat.
>Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain
>itself?
> She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought
>was left.
> There was nothing left that could ever recover.
> Neither you
>nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was
>simply dead!
her to death.
You disgusting murderer.
W.T.S.
Apr 1, 2012, 6:27:01 PM4/1/12
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In article <j5ihn79g6vjiirf9q...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
think you can recover from brain death?????? She was dead and you know
she was dead.
think that constitutes being alive???? What kind of a sick, degenerate
church would have that sort of doctrine?????
this what you want to do to hundreds of Americans every year? Drain
them of every last cent, then drain the public of money needed for
people that can be helped? Is your degenerate "church" going to pay the
bill. I can see it now, row after row of brain dead people being kept
alive at public expense and the insistence of the sick Catholic Church
while thousands suffer for lack of health care.
>
> You disgusting murderer.
You filthy little Catholic Sadist! You enjoy the suffering you cause,
don't you! Don't deny what we both know. Brain death is death. And
you don't care one bit. You just want to impose your ugly, filthy Dogma
on innocent bystanders, don't you! Take your pro-liar ass, your
Sadistic Church and stick them back in the shit hole you got them out
of!!!! You're a monster, "duke", pure and simple, a sadistic, Catholic
monster.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist - Monster!!!
>
P.S. Please keep harping on this, "duke". I want as many people as
possible (as few people as there are on the Usenet these days) to see
what you stand for. I want people to realize what the "Church" would do
to them if it had its way, the kind of suffering it would impose on
everyone. Please keep explaining exactly, in no uncertain terms, you
full well knew there was no recovery, nothing left except the stem of
the brain, that you know she was gone. I want everyone to picture
themselves if something like this ever happened in their family, and
"duke" and his "Church" stuck their noses in at the worst moment of
their lives.
P.P.S. Oh, and keep explaining why you and your "Church" oppose stem
cell research, the one thing that might lead to healing nerve tissue
damage. The Usenet public needs to be reminded of that too.
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:32:45 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <8umgn752tqql3aph6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >> >>
> >> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> >> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
> >>
> >> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
> >> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
> >>
> >> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
> >> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
> >> on her own with a heart beat.
> >Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain
> >itself?
>
> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
So what? Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:32:45 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <8umgn752tqql3aph6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
> >> >>
> >> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> >> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
> >>
> >> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
> >> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
> >>
> >> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
> >> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
> >> on her own with a heart beat.
> >Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain
> >itself?
>
> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
think you can recover from brain death?????? She was dead and you know
she was dead.
>
> > She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought
> >was left.
>
> But she was alive, alive I tell you, with a functioning heart and respiration.
SO WHAT??? You stupid, ignorant, Catholic fool!!!!! Do you _actually_
> > She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought
> >was left.
>
> But she was alive, alive I tell you, with a functioning heart and respiration.
think that constitutes being alive???? What kind of a sick, degenerate
church would have that sort of doctrine?????
>
> > There was nothing left that could ever recover.
>
> 100% of all people die. Life is an unrecoverable terminal condition.
And she was, in fact, dead!!!
> > There was nothing left that could ever recover.
>
> 100% of all people die. Life is an unrecoverable terminal condition.
>
> > Neither you
> >nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was
> >simply dead!
>
> No, she wasn't, shit for brains. If she was dead, there was no reason to starve
> her to death.
It was time to let the rest of her remains follow her brain death. Is
> > Neither you
> >nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was
> >simply dead!
>
> No, she wasn't, shit for brains. If she was dead, there was no reason to starve
> her to death.
this what you want to do to hundreds of Americans every year? Drain
them of every last cent, then drain the public of money needed for
people that can be helped? Is your degenerate "church" going to pay the
bill. I can see it now, row after row of brain dead people being kept
alive at public expense and the insistence of the sick Catholic Church
while thousands suffer for lack of health care.
>
> You disgusting murderer.
You filthy little Catholic Sadist! You enjoy the suffering you cause,
don't you! Don't deny what we both know. Brain death is death. And
you don't care one bit. You just want to impose your ugly, filthy Dogma
on innocent bystanders, don't you! Take your pro-liar ass, your
Sadistic Church and stick them back in the shit hole you got them out
of!!!! You're a monster, "duke", pure and simple, a sadistic, Catholic
monster.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist - Monster!!!
>
P.S. Please keep harping on this, "duke". I want as many people as
possible (as few people as there are on the Usenet these days) to see
what you stand for. I want people to realize what the "Church" would do
to them if it had its way, the kind of suffering it would impose on
everyone. Please keep explaining exactly, in no uncertain terms, you
full well knew there was no recovery, nothing left except the stem of
the brain, that you know she was gone. I want everyone to picture
themselves if something like this ever happened in their family, and
"duke" and his "Church" stuck their noses in at the worst moment of
their lives.
P.P.S. Oh, and keep explaining why you and your "Church" oppose stem
cell research, the one thing that might lead to healing nerve tissue
damage. The Usenet public needs to be reminded of that too.
sbalneav
Apr 1, 2012, 7:24:42 PM4/1/12
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In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
>>In alt.atheism J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>>
>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>
> She wasn't brain dead.
Sure she was; there was no higher brain function. The only thing keeping her
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
>>In alt.atheism J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>>
>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>
> She wasn't brain dead.
alive was our evolutionary "reptile brain" which handles things like breathing
and heartbeat. But "Terri", all her memories, personality, feelings, wants,
hopes, fears, dreams, passions, all that stuff that sits in the higher brain,
all that was gone. Atrophied and replaced with water.
>>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>>just let her go.
>>
>>Because "Terri" was already gone.
>
> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
functions. If we hadn't had tube feeding, she wouldn't have been alive for as
long as she was. That's "natural death", right? She was unnaturally being
kept alive.
BroilJAB
Apr 1, 2012, 7:42:41 PM4/1/12
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Never forget
duke
Apr 2, 2012, 6:36:02 AM4/2/12
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 17:27:01 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <j5ihn79g6vjiirf9q...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:32:45 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <8umgn752tqql3aph6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >> >@cox.net says...
>> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> >> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>> >>
>> >> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
>> >> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
>> >>
>> >> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>> >> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>> >> on her own with a heart beat.
>> >Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain
>> >itself?
>> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>So what?
Which means she wasn't dead.
>In article <j5ihn79g6vjiirf9q...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:32:45 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <8umgn752tqql3aph6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 06:07:19 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <udtdn79k7uasvaohd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >> >@cox.net says...
>> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> >> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>> >>
>> >> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain
>> >> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
>> >>
>> >> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>> >> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>> >> on her own with a heart beat.
>> >Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain
>> >itself?
>> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>So what?
> Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>think you can recover from brain death??????
HVAC
Apr 2, 2012, 7:17:00 AM4/2/12
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On 4/1/2012 5:29 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>>
>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
> That's not what I said.
Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>
>>>
>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>>
>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
> That's not what I said.
As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
duke
Apr 2, 2012, 7:27:27 AM4/2/12
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 07:17:00 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/1/2012 5:29 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>>>
>>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>> That's not what I said.
>Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
>On 4/1/2012 5:29 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>>>
>>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>> That's not what I said.
>Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
happens. Now do you understand?
duke
Apr 2, 2012, 7:31:17 AM4/2/12
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On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In alt.atheism J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>>>
>>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>>
>> She wasn't brain dead.
>Sure she was; there was no higher brain function.
It was high enough to keep her heart beating and her respiration going..
>In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In alt.atheism J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>>>
>>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>>
>> She wasn't brain dead.
>Sure she was; there was no higher brain function.
> The only thing keeping her
>alive was our evolutionary "reptile brain" which handles things like breathing
>and heartbeat. But "Terri", all her memories, personality, feelings, wants,
>hopes, fears, dreams, passions, all that stuff that sits in the higher brain,
>all that was gone. Atrophied and replaced with water.
>>>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>>>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>>>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>>>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>>>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>>>just let her go.
>>>
>>>Because "Terri" was already gone.
>> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
>She couldn't eat on her own. Couldn't chew or swallow; those are natural
>functions. If we hadn't had tube feeding, she wouldn't have been alive for as
>long as she was. That's "natural death", right? She was unnaturally being
>kept alive.
periods of time. Death is not imminent.
W.T.S.
Apr 2, 2012, 8:00:04 AM4/2/12
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In article <950jn7l0tff1s9ve4...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
Yes, it does mean she was dead.
removed. The brain was already liquefied. The remainder of the body
followed. The heart and lungs are not the brain! Brain gone, life
gone!
"duke", with a straight face, please tell everyone that you want any
person with fluid for a brain to be kept on support, and/or a feeding
tube until they die of old age. Do you understand how long that is for
a 20 year old? Do you know how much it costs from one day to the next?
Do you know what those funds could do for prenatal care alone? Your
thinking is stuck in the Dark Ages, "duke", when the heart beat was the
symbol of life, and humans knew little or nothing about the brain. I
thought we left that sort of ignorance behind.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Idiot.
>
> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>
> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>
> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
removed. The brain was already liquefied. The remainder of the body
followed. The heart and lungs are not the brain! Brain gone, life
gone!
"duke", with a straight face, please tell everyone that you want any
person with fluid for a brain to be kept on support, and/or a feeding
tube until they die of old age. Do you understand how long that is for
a 20 year old? Do you know how much it costs from one day to the next?
Do you know what those funds could do for prenatal care alone? Your
thinking is stuck in the Dark Ages, "duke", when the heart beat was the
symbol of life, and humans knew little or nothing about the brain. I
thought we left that sort of ignorance behind.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Idiot.
W.T.S.
Apr 2, 2012, 8:02:04 AM4/2/12
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In article <463jn7tlgmqqn2a2l...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
@cox.net says...
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 07:17:00 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 4/1/2012 5:29 PM, duke wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
> >>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
> >> That's not what I said.
>
> >Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> happens. Now do you understand?
You don't understand our obligation to prevent or reduce suffering.
>
> >On 4/1/2012 5:29 PM, duke wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
> >>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
> >> That's not what I said.
>
> >Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> happens. Now do you understand?
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
HVAC
Apr 2, 2012, 8:19:28 AM4/2/12
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On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
>
>
>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> happens. Now do you understand?
What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
>
>
>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> happens. Now do you understand?
direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
This amounts to a sin by omission.
You may now ask for forgiveness.
If you are truly contrite (And do the penance I assign), your
sins will be washed away in the blood of Christ.
PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
W.T.S.
Apr 2, 2012, 8:20:05 AM4/2/12
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In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> >>>>
> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
Ages, "duke", get over it.
that forms any sort of thoughts or has any sort of memory left, no
sight, no hearing. She was quite dead.
the brain stem and bodily remains were left. It was long past time to
let them go.
definition of death was no heart beat.
at straws, "duke".
>
Ladies and gentlemen of the Usenet, take a long, careful look at what
"duke" is doing. He's advocating that the sick, degenerate Dogma of the
Catholic Church be imposed on every one of you, like it or not, rather
than allow Doctors and Scientists to do what we select and hire them
for. "duke" wants the Catholic Church to over No one elected the
Catholic Church, or gave it power over our lives. Yet, the Catholic
Church demands power, and has acted in the case of Terri to impose
itself on each of us. The Church has no qualms about the methods it
uses to gain power over our lives. Even today, the Catholic Church
demands absolute power over our reproductive lives, as it once had.
Again, it has no qualms about methods, including lies and
disinformation, pressuring Catholic legislators, terrorizing women.
What are you going to do about it?
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
>
> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
> >>>
> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> >>
> >> She wasn't brain dead.
Yes, she was.
> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> >>
> >> She wasn't brain dead.
>
> >Sure she was; there was no higher brain function.
>
> It was high enough to keep her heart beating and her respiration going..
And exactly zero point zero thought of any sort. This isn't the Dark
> >Sure she was; there was no higher brain function.
>
> It was high enough to keep her heart beating and her respiration going..
Ages, "duke", get over it.
>
> > The only thing keeping her
> >alive was our evolutionary "reptile brain" which handles things like breathing
> >and heartbeat. But "Terri", all her memories, personality, feelings, wants,
> >hopes, fears, dreams, passions, all that stuff that sits in the higher brain,
> >all that was gone. Atrophied and replaced with water.
>
> When she was murdered by starvation, she was close to death, but not dead.
Yes, "duke", she was dead, gone. There was nothing of the part of her
> > The only thing keeping her
> >alive was our evolutionary "reptile brain" which handles things like breathing
> >and heartbeat. But "Terri", all her memories, personality, feelings, wants,
> >hopes, fears, dreams, passions, all that stuff that sits in the higher brain,
> >all that was gone. Atrophied and replaced with water.
>
> When she was murdered by starvation, she was close to death, but not dead.
that forms any sort of thoughts or has any sort of memory left, no
sight, no hearing. She was quite dead.
>
> >>>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
> >>>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
> >>>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
> >>>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
> >>>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
> >>>just let her go.
> >>>
> >>>Because "Terri" was already gone.
>
> >> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
No, she was completely gone. Not "almost" gone, completely gone. Only
> >>>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
> >>>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
> >>>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
> >>>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
> >>>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
> >>>just let her go.
> >>>
> >>>Because "Terri" was already gone.
>
> >> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
the brain stem and bodily remains were left. It was long past time to
let them go.
>
> >She couldn't eat on her own. Couldn't chew or swallow; those are natural
> >functions. If we hadn't had tube feeding, she wouldn't have been alive for as
> >long as she was. That's "natural death", right? She was unnaturally being
> >kept alive.
Good point. They couldn't do that during the Dark Ages. So the
> >She couldn't eat on her own. Couldn't chew or swallow; those are natural
> >functions. If we hadn't had tube feeding, she wouldn't have been alive for as
> >long as she was. That's "natural death", right? She was unnaturally being
> >kept alive.
definition of death was no heart beat.
>
> Many people in intensive care units are kept on artificial feeding for short
> periods of time. Death is not imminent.
And their brains are still intact, not turned to liquid. Stop grasping
> Many people in intensive care units are kept on artificial feeding for short
> periods of time. Death is not imminent.
at straws, "duke".
>
Ladies and gentlemen of the Usenet, take a long, careful look at what
"duke" is doing. He's advocating that the sick, degenerate Dogma of the
Catholic Church be imposed on every one of you, like it or not, rather
than allow Doctors and Scientists to do what we select and hire them
for. "duke" wants the Catholic Church to over No one elected the
Catholic Church, or gave it power over our lives. Yet, the Catholic
Church demands power, and has acted in the case of Terri to impose
itself on each of us. The Church has no qualms about the methods it
uses to gain power over our lives. Even today, the Catholic Church
demands absolute power over our reproductive lives, as it once had.
Again, it has no qualms about methods, including lies and
disinformation, pressuring Catholic legislators, terrorizing women.
What are you going to do about it?
hypatiab7
Apr 2, 2012, 8:22:32 AM4/2/12
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On Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:13:23 AM UTC-4, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
> Oh, good grief.
>
> Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
>
Braindead and totally helpless? Yeah. But, J would
want his helpless partner to be male, not female. Or
would he want to be the helpless one?
> In article <5h2k2d....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>
> Oh, good grief.
>
> Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
>
Braindead and totally helpless? Yeah. But, J would
want his helpless partner to be male, not female. Or
would he want to be the helpless one?
duke
Apr 3, 2012, 6:45:51 AM4/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >So what?
>>
>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>>
>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >So what?
>>
>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>>
>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
that's the style you love.
duke
Apr 3, 2012, 8:03:30 AM4/3/12
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:19:28 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>>
>> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
>> happens. Now do you understand?
>What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
>direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
>This amounts to a sin by omission.
No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
>On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>>
>> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
>> happens. Now do you understand?
>What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
>direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
>This amounts to a sin by omission.
suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
torturers would have been.
I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
>You may now ask for forgiveness.
>If you are truly contrite (And do the penance I assign), your
>sins will be washed away in the blood of Christ.
>PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
It's call "honor" for a reason.
duke
Apr 3, 2012, 8:06:29 AM4/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:20:05 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
>> >>>
>> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>> >>
>> >> She wasn't brain dead.
>Yes, she was.
She lived for 13 days totally on her own after the feeding tube and all life
>In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
>> >>>
>> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>> >>
>> >> She wasn't brain dead.
>Yes, she was.
support was removed. She was murdered by starvation, and you love it.
HVAC
Apr 3, 2012, 8:43:08 AM4/3/12
to
On 4/3/2012 8:03 AM, duke wrote:
>
>
>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>
> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
> It's call "honor" for a reason.
So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>
>
>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>
> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
> It's call "honor" for a reason.
World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
Duke, you are a slimy piece of shit.
W.T.S.
Apr 3, 2012, 9:31:48 AM4/3/12
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In article <7ppln7phtnhb33dbd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
doubt, and it was confirmed on autopsy. Do you know _anything_ about
the human brain, "duke"? The correct answer is "no".
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Idiot.
@cox.net says...
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:20:05 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> >> >>
> >> >> She wasn't brain dead.
> >Yes, she was.
>
> She lived for 13 days totally on her own after the feeding tube and all life
> support was removed. She was murdered by starvation, and you love it.
Pure, lying bull shit. She was brain dead, beyond the shadow of _any_
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:20:05 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> >> >>
> >> >> She wasn't brain dead.
> >Yes, she was.
>
> She lived for 13 days totally on her own after the feeding tube and all life
> support was removed. She was murdered by starvation, and you love it.
doubt, and it was confirmed on autopsy. Do you know _anything_ about
the human brain, "duke"? The correct answer is "no".
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Idiot.
W.T.S.
Apr 3, 2012, 9:34:08 AM4/3/12
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In article <qfpln7131lggvk01l...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
@cox.net says...
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:19:28 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
> >>
> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>
> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>
> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
> torturers would have been.
>
> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>
> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
> >>
> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>
> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>
> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
> torturers would have been.
>
> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
>
> >You may now ask for forgiveness.
> >If you are truly contrite (And do the penance I assign), your
> >sins will be washed away in the blood of Christ.
>
> This is one I don't have to worry about.
>
> >PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
> >money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>
> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
> >You may now ask for forgiveness.
> >If you are truly contrite (And do the penance I assign), your
> >sins will be washed away in the blood of Christ.
>
> This is one I don't have to worry about.
>
> >PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
> >money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>
> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>
W.T.S.
Apr 3, 2012, 9:37:50 AM4/3/12
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In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
functioning brain with any thought or reason.
But, keep repeating your Church line, "duke", I want to impress on
everyone what the Church has in mind for them at the worst times of
their lives!
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
@cox.net says...
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >So what?
> >>
> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>
> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> that's the style you love.
Pure, lying bull shit. Was was allowed to expire had no life in it, no
>
> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >So what?
> >>
> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>
> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> that's the style you love.
functioning brain with any thought or reason.
But, keep repeating your Church line, "duke", I want to impress on
everyone what the Church has in mind for them at the worst times of
their lives!
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
Alan Ferris
Apr 3, 2012, 3:11:07 PM4/3/12
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:49:43 +0200, Daniel Hoehr
<daniel...@gmx.net> wrote:
>Am 31.03.2012 14:36, schrieb HVAC:
>> On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life
<daniel...@gmx.net> wrote:
>Am 31.03.2012 14:36, schrieb HVAC:
>> On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> support
>>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved
>>> her to
>>> death.
>>
>>
>>> her to
>>> death.
>>
>>
>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
>
>No. Clearly not.
>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>
>
Why not?
--
Ferrit
()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")
Alan Ferris
Apr 3, 2012, 3:11:53 PM4/3/12
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:29:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
>>So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
>That's not what I said.
Then you are going against modern catholic teaching. Who is right,
>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>
>>So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
>That's not what I said.
you or the Catholic church?
Alan Ferris
Apr 3, 2012, 3:13:18 PM4/3/12
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:46:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>on her own with a heart beat.
Breathing and heartbeat are not necessary for their to be life, just
>No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>on her own with a heart beat.
as they are not signs of life. Which is why you will never be a
doctor.
Don Martin
Apr 3, 2012, 8:27:48 PM4/3/12
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:13:18 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:46:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>>would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>>on her own with a heart beat.
>
>Breathing and heartbeat are not necessary for their to be life, just
>as they are not signs of life. Which is why you will never be a
>doctor.
A heartfelt sigh of relief is heard the length and breadth of the healthcare
industry.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:46:42 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>>would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>>on her own with a heart beat.
>
>Breathing and heartbeat are not necessary for their to be life, just
>as they are not signs of life. Which is why you will never be a
>doctor.
industry.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
linuxgal
Apr 3, 2012, 9:32:03 PM4/3/12
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duke
Apr 4, 2012, 7:01:18 AM4/4/12
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:37:50 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >> >So what?
>> >>
>> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
>> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>> >>
>> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
>> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>> that's the style you love.
>Pure, lying bull shit.
What's the matter, wanker? You starting to stink as a mass murderer?
>In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >> >So what?
>> >>
>> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
>> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>> >>
>> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
>> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>> that's the style you love.
>Pure, lying bull shit.
>Was was allowed to expire had no life in it, no
>functioning brain with any thought or reason.
>But, keep repeating your Church line, "duke", I want to impress on
>everyone what the Church has in mind for them at the worst times of
>their lives!
>>
>> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
>>
>
>Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
>women and men alike!
>>
>http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>>
>http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>>
>http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>>
>http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>>
>http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>>
>Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
>Live like pigs, die like rats!
>>
>Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
>complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
>have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
>abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
>expense.
>>
>http://www.imnotsorry.net
>>
>http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
W.T.S.
Apr 4, 2012, 7:23:48 AM4/4/12
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In article <fdaon7dqf38o3re3o...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
school?
@cox.net says...
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:37:50 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >> >So what?
> >> >>
> >> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
> >> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >> that's the style you love.
>
> >Pure, lying bull shit.
>
> What's the matter, wanker? You starting to stink as a mass murderer?
What's the matter, ass hole? Can't you remember anything from medical
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:37:50 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >> >So what?
> >> >>
> >> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
> >> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >> that's the style you love.
>
> >Pure, lying bull shit.
>
> What's the matter, wanker? You starting to stink as a mass murderer?
school?
>
> >Was was allowed to expire had no life in it, no
> >functioning brain with any thought or reason.
> >But, keep repeating your Church line, "duke", I want to impress on
> >everyone what the Church has in mind for them at the worst times of
> >their lives!
> >>
> >> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
> >>
> >
> >Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
> >women and men alike!
> >>
> >http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
> >>
> >http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
> >>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
> >>
> >http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
> >>
> >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
> >>
> >Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
> >Live like pigs, die like rats!
> >>
> >Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
> >complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
> >have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
> >abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
> >expense.
> >>
> >http://www.imnotsorry.net
> >>
> >http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
> duke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
> >Was was allowed to expire had no life in it, no
> >functioning brain with any thought or reason.
> >But, keep repeating your Church line, "duke", I want to impress on
> >everyone what the Church has in mind for them at the worst times of
> >their lives!
> >>
> >> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
> >>
> >
> >Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
> >women and men alike!
> >>
> >http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
> >>
> >http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
> >>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
> >>
> >http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
> >>
> >http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
> >>
> >Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
> >Live like pigs, die like rats!
> >>
> >Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
> >complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
> >have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
> >abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
> >expense.
> >>
> >http://www.imnotsorry.net
> >>
> >http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
• R. L. Measures.
Apr 4, 2012, 12:10:05 PM4/4/12
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In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duke
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>>> >So what?
>>>
>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>>>
>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
death.
>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>that's the style you love.
>
• Denial of reality, the greatest human malady.
>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>>> >So what?
>>>
>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>>>
>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
death.
>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>that's the style you love.
>
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
duke
Apr 4, 2012, 12:53:18 PM4/4/12
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:43:08 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/3/2012 8:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>>
>> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
>> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>
>So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
>On 4/3/2012 8:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>>
>> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
>> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>
>So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
full of women and children.
>Duke, you are a slimy piece of shit.
duke
Apr 4, 2012, 12:55:10 PM4/4/12
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:34:08 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <qfpln7131lggvk01l...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:19:28 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>> >>
>> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
>> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>>
>> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
>> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
>> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>>
>> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
>> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
>> torturers would have been.
>>
>> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
>Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb out
>In article <qfpln7131lggvk01l...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:19:28 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>> >>
>> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
>> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>>
>> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
>> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
>> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>>
>> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
>> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
>> torturers would have been.
>>
>> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
>Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
your ass before posting.
duke
Apr 4, 2012, 12:56:07 PM4/4/12
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:23:48 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <fdaon7dqf38o3re3o...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:37:50 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >> >> >So what?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
>> >> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> >> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
>> >> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>> >> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>>
>> >> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>> >> that's the style you love.
>>
>> >Pure, lying bull shit.
>>
>> What's the matter, wanker? You starting to stink as a mass murderer?
>What's the matter, ass hole? Can't you remember anything from medical
>school?
I don't stink like a mass murderer like you do.
>In article <fdaon7dqf38o3re3o...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:37:50 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >> >> >So what?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
>> >> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> >> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
>> >> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>> >> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>>
>> >> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>> >> that's the style you love.
>>
>> >Pure, lying bull shit.
>>
>> What's the matter, wanker? You starting to stink as a mass murderer?
>What's the matter, ass hole? Can't you remember anything from medical
>school?
duke
Apr 4, 2012, 12:56:56 PM4/4/12
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:31:48 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <7ppln7phtnhb33dbd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:20:05 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>> >> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> She wasn't brain dead.
>> >Yes, she was.
>>
>> She lived for 13 days totally on her own after the feeding tube and all life
>> support was removed. She was murdered by starvation, and you love it.
>Pure, lying bull shit. She was brain dead, beyond the shadow of _any_
>doubt, and it was confirmed on autopsy. Do you know _anything_ about
>the human brain, "duke"? The correct answer is "no".
She lives for 13 starving days.
>In article <7ppln7phtnhb33dbd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:20:05 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>> >> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> She wasn't brain dead.
>> >Yes, she was.
>>
>> She lived for 13 days totally on her own after the feeding tube and all life
>> support was removed. She was murdered by starvation, and you love it.
>Pure, lying bull shit. She was brain dead, beyond the shadow of _any_
>doubt, and it was confirmed on autopsy. Do you know _anything_ about
>the human brain, "duke"? The correct answer is "no".
HVAC
Apr 4, 2012, 1:03:11 PM4/4/12
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On 4/4/2012 12:53 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>
>> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>
> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
> full of women and children.
And YOU consider them heroes.....Wonderful.
>
>>
>> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>
> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
> full of women and children.
HVAC
Apr 4, 2012, 1:06:49 PM4/4/12
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On 4/4/2012 12:55 PM, duke wrote:
>
>
> Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb out
> your ass before posting.
But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
>
>
> Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb out
> your ass before posting.
Warhol
Apr 4, 2012, 1:22:52 PM4/4/12
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Op 4-4-2012 18:53, duke schreef:911
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YAv_tPmho
Bastard explain me how those 19 hijackers are heroes in the Muslim
world, while the majority never heard of 911
BTW did you know many of those so called hijackers are still alive today...
http://guardian.150m.com/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
how do you explain that inglorious bastard?
> On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:43:08 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/3/2012 8:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>>>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>>>
>>> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
>>> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>>
>> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>
> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
> full of women and children.
>
Majority of Muslims never heard of 911....
>
>> On 4/3/2012 8:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>>>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>>>
>>> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
>>> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>>
>> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>
> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
> full of women and children.
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YAv_tPmho
Bastard explain me how those 19 hijackers are heroes in the Muslim
world, while the majority never heard of 911
BTW did you know many of those so called hijackers are still alive today...
http://guardian.150m.com/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
how do you explain that inglorious bastard?
W.T.S.
Apr 4, 2012, 2:03:44 PM4/4/12
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In article <s9von7583tfl627d9...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
anything else, or forming a thought, ever, or of ever waking up. She
was brain dead, which means she was dead.
Ladies and gentlemen, are you getting the point? "duke" and his "Pope"
demand that you suffer as much as possible, as often as possible, and
that your family suffer, that medical science be ignored. Do you have
any understanding now of the sickness and degeneracy of the Catholic
Church? If not, stay tuned as "duke" continues to demand as much
suffering from you as possible, even if you're not Catholic! Isn't
"duke" special?
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist!
@cox.net says...
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:31:48 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <7ppln7phtnhb33dbd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:20:05 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >> >> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> She wasn't brain dead.
> >> >Yes, she was.
> >>
> >> She lived for 13 days totally on her own after the feeding tube and all life
> >> support was removed. She was murdered by starvation, and you love it.
> >Pure, lying bull shit. She was brain dead, beyond the shadow of _any_
> >doubt, and it was confirmed on autopsy. Do you know _anything_ about
> >the human brain, "duke"? The correct answer is "no".
>
> She lives for 13 starving days.
The brain was liquid, not capable of feeling any sort of pain, or
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:31:48 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <7ppln7phtnhb33dbd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:20:05 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <793jn7tjjmrvk7rp8...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>In alt.atheism J <Jerk...@Liar.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> http://tiny.cc/q4n0cw
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >> >> >>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> She wasn't brain dead.
> >> >Yes, she was.
> >>
> >> She lived for 13 days totally on her own after the feeding tube and all life
> >> support was removed. She was murdered by starvation, and you love it.
> >Pure, lying bull shit. She was brain dead, beyond the shadow of _any_
> >doubt, and it was confirmed on autopsy. Do you know _anything_ about
> >the human brain, "duke"? The correct answer is "no".
>
> She lives for 13 starving days.
anything else, or forming a thought, ever, or of ever waking up. She
was brain dead, which means she was dead.
Ladies and gentlemen, are you getting the point? "duke" and his "Pope"
demand that you suffer as much as possible, as often as possible, and
that your family suffer, that medical science be ignored. Do you have
any understanding now of the sickness and degeneracy of the Catholic
Church? If not, stay tuned as "duke" continues to demand as much
suffering from you as possible, even if you're not Catholic! Isn't
"duke" special?
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist!
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
W.T.S.
Apr 4, 2012, 2:07:40 PM4/4/12
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In article <q7von7legbgbf5nam...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
my sick, degenerate "Church" for sound medical science, just for the
sake of causing people and their families to suffer.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the "duke" show. Here, he
entertains us with Catholic logic that has nothing to do with medical
facts. Do you want the Pope telling your Doctor what to do? Isn't it
great?
@cox.net says...
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:23:48 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <fdaon7dqf38o3re3o...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:37:50 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >> >> >So what?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >> >> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> >> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >> >> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >> >> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
> >>
> >> >> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >> >> that's the style you love.
> >>
> >> >Pure, lying bull shit.
> >>
> >> What's the matter, wanker? You starting to stink as a mass murderer?
> >What's the matter, ass hole? Can't you remember anything from medical
> >school?
>
> I don't stink like a mass murderer like you do.
I don't presume to substitute the sick, degenerate Dogma and Doctrine of
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:23:48 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <fdaon7dqf38o3re3o...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:37:50 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >> >> >So what?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >> >> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> >> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >> >> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >> >> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
> >>
> >> >> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >> >> that's the style you love.
> >>
> >> >Pure, lying bull shit.
> >>
> >> What's the matter, wanker? You starting to stink as a mass murderer?
> >What's the matter, ass hole? Can't you remember anything from medical
> >school?
>
> I don't stink like a mass murderer like you do.
my sick, degenerate "Church" for sound medical science, just for the
sake of causing people and their families to suffer.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the "duke" show. Here, he
entertains us with Catholic logic that has nothing to do with medical
facts. Do you want the Pope telling your Doctor what to do? Isn't it
great?
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
W.T.S.
Apr 4, 2012, 2:14:23 PM4/4/12
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In article <rL-040412...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org says...
"duke" has been out of touch with reality ever since he became Catholic.
Uirgil
Apr 4, 2012, 3:35:50 PM4/4/12
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In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3...@4ax.com>,
countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
into a short and painful lives.
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
> >> suffering.
> >Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>
> Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb
> out
> your ass before posting
Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
> >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
> >> suffering.
> >Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>
> Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb
> out
> your ass before posting
countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
into a short and painful lives.
HVAC
Apr 4, 2012, 3:46:40 PM4/4/12
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On 4/4/2012 1:22 PM, Warhol wrote:
>
>
>
> Majority of Muslims never heard of 911....
That's because the majority of muslums are backward, ignorant,
>
>
>
> Majority of Muslims never heard of 911....
superstitious, and cut off from major forms of free communication
by their theocratic governments....The style of government that
you favor, btw.
We make the mistake of confusing them with normal, western style people.
No offense.
> BTW did you know many of those so called hijackers are still alive today...
HVAC
Apr 4, 2012, 3:55:19 PM4/4/12
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On 4/4/2012 3:35 PM, Uirgil wrote:
>
>
> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
> into a short and painful lives.
I bet Duke would be in favor of sending them fly repellent.
>
>
> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
> into a short and painful lives.
Brad Guth
Apr 4, 2012, 3:56:20 PM4/4/12
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On Apr 4, 12:35 pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
That outcome only puts a smile on Uirgil's and HVAC's face, and makes
thim and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck kind fart with glee.
The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
eight or nine.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
thim and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck kind fart with glee.
The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
eight or nine.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
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Brad Guth
Apr 4, 2012, 4:00:11 PM4/4/12
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On Apr 4, 12:35 pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
>
> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
>
-
That outcome only puts a smile on Duke’s and HVAC's face, and makes
them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
sbalneav
Apr 4, 2012, 5:33:22 PM4/4/12
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In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
>>In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In alt.atheism J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:24:42 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
>>In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:00 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tiny.cc/q4m0bw
>>>>
>>>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>>>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>>>
>>> She wasn't brain dead.
>
>>Sure she was; there was no higher brain function.
>>>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>>>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>>>
>>> She wasn't brain dead.
>
>
> It was high enough to keep her heart beating and her respiration going..
>
>> The only thing keeping her
>>alive was our evolutionary "reptile brain" which handles things like breathing
>>and heartbeat. But "Terri", all her memories, personality, feelings, wants,
>>hopes, fears, dreams, passions, all that stuff that sits in the higher brain,
>>all that was gone. Atrophied and replaced with water.
>
> When she was murdered by starvation, she was close to death, but not dead.
>
>>>>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>>>>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>>>>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>>>>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>>>>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>>>>just let her go.
>>>>
>>>>Because "Terri" was already gone.
>
>>> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
>
>>She couldn't eat on her own. Couldn't chew or swallow; those are natural
>>functions. If we hadn't had tube feeding, she wouldn't have been alive for as
>>long as she was. That's "natural death", right? She was unnaturally being
>>kept alive.
>
> Many people in intensive care units are kept on artificial feeding for short
> periods of time. Death is not imminent.
Duke, you and I *BOTH* know Terri wasn't on a tube for "a short period of
time".
C'mon duke; I'm an atheist; when they unplug me, I'm just gone, and *I* wouldn't
want to live like that. Can you honestly look at Terri and say she wanted to
keep on in that "not quite alive, not quite dead" state? Would you?
One way or the other, we all gotta go. It'd be nice to shuffle off with as
much dignity as you can. I don't think anyone can look at what was happening
to Terri and call that "dignity".
Rockinghorse Winner
Apr 4, 2012, 8:56:02 PM4/4/12
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* It may have been the liquor talking, but
Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 12:35?pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
>>
>>
>> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. ?Try taking your thumb
> -
>
> That outcome only puts a smile on Duke?s and HVAC's face, and makes
The sad fact that some children come into the world unloved is not
a sign to terminate their invaluable lives, but to create a new heart
in us that is capable of loving them and taking care of their needs.
It's not just the Pope's job or nuns or missionaries, but the true vocation
of everyone. Whoever does not accept his vocation deludes himself as to
what his true purpose for living is. You and that unwanted child, you know,
have the same end.
Terry
--
"There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats."
-Albert Schweitzer
badass linux - gentoo 3.1.6
Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 12:35?pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
>>
>> ?duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
>> > >> suffering.
>> > >Gee Whiz! ?Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
>> > >> suffering.
>>
>> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. ?Try taking your thumb
>> > out
>> > your ass before posting
>>
>> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
>> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
>> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
>> into a short and painful lives.
>
> Oops, I meant Duke?s face. (sorry about that)
>> > your ass before posting
>>
>> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
>> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
>> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
>> into a short and painful lives.
>
> -
>
> That outcome only puts a smile on Duke?s and HVAC's face, and makes
> them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
>
> The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
> unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
> die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
> eight or nine.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> http://translate.google.com/#
> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?
>
> The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
> unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
> die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
> eight or nine.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> http://translate.google.com/#
The sad fact that some children come into the world unloved is not
a sign to terminate their invaluable lives, but to create a new heart
in us that is capable of loving them and taking care of their needs.
It's not just the Pope's job or nuns or missionaries, but the true vocation
of everyone. Whoever does not accept his vocation deludes himself as to
what his true purpose for living is. You and that unwanted child, you know,
have the same end.
Terry
--
"There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats."
-Albert Schweitzer
badass linux - gentoo 3.1.6
Paul Duca
Apr 4, 2012, 10:31:09 PM4/4/12
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On Apr 4, 12:55 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:34:08 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >In article <qfpln7131lggvk01lu7m6on03edg697...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> are much easier to manipulate.
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:34:08 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >In article <qfpln7131lggvk01lu7m6on03edg697...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:19:28 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
> >> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> >> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>
> >> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
> >> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
> >> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>
> >> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
> >> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
> >> torturers would have been.
>
> >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
> >Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>
> Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. But we both know suffering people
>
> >> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
> >> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> >> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>
> >> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
> >> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
> >> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>
> >> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
> >> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
> >> torturers would have been.
>
> >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
> >Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>
> are much easier to manipulate.
Paul Duca
Apr 4, 2012, 10:31:58 PM4/4/12
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On Apr 4, 1:03 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/4/2012 12:53 PM, duke wrote:
>
>
>
> >> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
> >> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>
> > To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
> > full of women and children.
>
> And YOU consider them heroes.....Wonderful.
>
Like Patrick says, at least they got Americans running back to church,
> On 4/4/2012 12:53 PM, duke wrote:
>
>
>
> >> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
> >> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>
> > To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
> > full of women and children.
>
> And YOU consider them heroes.....Wonderful.
>
expecting God to take care of them.
Paul
hypatiab7
Apr 5, 2012, 2:23:45 AM4/5/12
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On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:03:30 AM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> >If you are truly contrite (And do the penance I assign), your
> >sins will be washed away in the blood of Christ.
>
> This is one I don't have to worry about.
against his will. That's murder. Of course, he
wasn't supposed to stay dead, but return to Daddy's
side in Boring Land. So, the whole thing was totally
meaningless. He didn't really die - just his shell.
But the Church can't say that JC's shell died for
all good Catholics' sins, could they?
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:19:28 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
> >>
> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>
> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>
> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
> torturers would have been.
>
> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
>
> >You may now ask for forgiveness.
>
> >On 4/2/2012 7:27 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
> >>> As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
> >>
> >> Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
> >> happens. Now do you understand?
>
> >What I seem to be understanding is that you don't like to answer a
> >direct question in an extremely un-Christian manner.
> >This amounts to a sin by omission.
>
> No, it doesn't. How can any one person admit that they are in **favor** of
> suffering? I would think that hitler was. I would think that some old time
> torturers would have been.
>
> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of suffering.
>
> >If you are truly contrite (And do the penance I assign), your
> >sins will be washed away in the blood of Christ.
>
> This is one I don't have to worry about.
>
> >PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
> >money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>
> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>
According to the myth, his father made him die
> >PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
> >money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>
> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>
against his will. That's murder. Of course, he
wasn't supposed to stay dead, but return to Daddy's
side in Boring Land. So, the whole thing was totally
meaningless. He didn't really die - just his shell.
But the Church can't say that JC's shell died for
all good Catholics' sins, could they?
hypatiab7
Apr 5, 2012, 2:28:07 AM4/5/12
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On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:45:51 AM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >So what?
> >>
> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>
> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> that's the style you love.
She didn't have a brain, you moron. There was nothing
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> >> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >> >So what?
> >>
> >> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>
> >> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to death.
> >No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>
> She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> that's the style you love.
to murder. You act as though she was aware. Without a
brain, there is nothing to be aware with.
Christopher A. Lee
Apr 5, 2012, 3:04:43 AM4/5/12
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W.T.S.
Apr 5, 2012, 4:00:02 AM4/5/12
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In article <slrnjnprd2.99m....@badass.edu>,
badass....@gmx.com says...
filth, rip it apart, and flush it down the toilet. Abortion is a great,
beautiful act of love and devotion!!!
We should love our own lives so much more that the existence of fetus
filth. Abortion is so beautiful! Crush out fetus filth!!!
child, nor has any other Catholic. To the Catholic Church, life
actually does end at birth!
life. I'm more important than any fetus filth. Let the fetus filth rot
while I enjoy my life and pleasures!!!
>
> Terry
badass....@gmx.com says...
> * It may have been the liquor talking, but
> Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 4, 12:35?pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
> >>
> >> ?duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
> >> > >> suffering.
> >> > >Gee Whiz! ?Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
> >>
> >> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. ?Try taking your thumb
> >> > out
> >> > your ass before posting
> >>
> >> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
> >> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
> >> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
> >> into a short and painful lives.
> >
> > Oops, I meant Duke?s face. (sorry about that)
> >
> Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 4, 12:35?pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
> >>
> >> ?duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
> >> > >> suffering.
> >> > >Gee Whiz! ?Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
> >>
> >> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. ?Try taking your thumb
> >> > out
> >> > your ass before posting
> >>
> >> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
> >> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
> >> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
> >> into a short and painful lives.
> >
> > Oops, I meant Duke?s face. (sorry about that)
> >
> > That outcome only puts a smile on Duke?s and HVAC's face, and makes
> > them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
> >
> > The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
> > unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
> > die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
> > eight or nine.
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> > http://translate.google.com/#
> > Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?
>
> The sad fact that some children come into the world unloved is not
> a sign to terminate their invaluable lives,
Pure, lying bull shit!!! Yes, it is a sign to take the unwanted fetus
> > them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
> >
> > The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
> > unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
> > die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
> > eight or nine.
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> > http://translate.google.com/#
> > Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?
>
> The sad fact that some children come into the world unloved is not
> a sign to terminate their invaluable lives,
filth, rip it apart, and flush it down the toilet. Abortion is a great,
beautiful act of love and devotion!!!
> but to create a new heart
> in us that is capable of loving them and taking care of their needs.
It's so much more wonderful to simply get rid of the little bastards.
> in us that is capable of loving them and taking care of their needs.
We should love our own lives so much more that the existence of fetus
filth. Abortion is so beautiful! Crush out fetus filth!!!
>
> It's not just the Pope's job or nuns or missionaries, but the true vocation
> of everyone.
Horse shit! The Pope never lifted a finger to help a single unwanted
> It's not just the Pope's job or nuns or missionaries, but the true vocation
> of everyone.
child, nor has any other Catholic. To the Catholic Church, life
actually does end at birth!
> Whoever does not accept his vocation deludes himself as to
> what his true purpose for living is. You and that unwanted child, you know,
> have the same end.
Yes, but if we croak the fetus filth early we'll have a much better
> what his true purpose for living is. You and that unwanted child, you know,
> have the same end.
life. I'm more important than any fetus filth. Let the fetus filth rot
while I enjoy my life and pleasures!!!
>
> Terry
duke
Apr 5, 2012, 7:08:21 AM4/5/12
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starving to death.
duke
Apr 5, 2012, 7:10:21 AM4/5/12
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thomas p.
Apr 5, 2012, 8:03:16 AM4/5/12
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"Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:slrnjnprd2.99m....@badass.edu...
Pious, hypocritical twit.
snip--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
news:slrnjnprd2.99m....@badass.edu...
snip--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
duke
Apr 5, 2012, 8:07:54 AM4/5/12
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duke
Apr 5, 2012, 8:10:38 AM4/5/12
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:00:11 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 4, 12:35 pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
>>
>> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
>> > >> suffering.
>> > >Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>>
>> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb
>> > out
>> > your ass before posting
>>
>> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
>> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
>> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
>> into a short and painful lives.
>
>Oops, I meant Duke’s face. (sorry about that)
>On Apr 4, 12:35 pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
>>
>> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor" of
>> > >> suffering.
>> > >Gee Whiz! Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
>>
>> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb
>> > out
>> > your ass before posting
>>
>> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
>> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
>> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
>> into a short and painful lives.
>
>Oops, I meant Duke’s face. (sorry about that)
>That outcome only puts a smile on Duke’s and HVAC's face, and makes
>them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
Man, dem blak folk jes kep sprdng dem leg.
>them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
>The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
>unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
>die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
>eight or nine.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> http://translate.google.com/#
> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
linuxgal
Apr 5, 2012, 8:23:33 AM4/5/12
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duke wrote:
>
> Man, dem blak folk jes kep sprdng dem leg.
>
You're talking major purgo time, duke, the way you represent Holy Mother
>
> Man, dem blak folk jes kep sprdng dem leg.
>
Church to unbelievers.
W.T.S.
Apr 5, 2012, 8:34:15 AM4/5/12
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In article <s6vqn7didh290r7hd...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
she was already dead.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Con Man.
@cox.net says...
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:10:05 -0700, r...@somis.org (? R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> >>
>
> >In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> >>
> >>>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >>>> >So what?
> >>>>
> >>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
> >death.
> >>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
> >>
> >>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >>that's the style you love.
> >>
> >? Denial of reality, the greatest human malady.
> >>>> >So what?
> >>>>
> >>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
> >death.
> >>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
> >>
> >>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >>that's the style you love.
> >>
>
> 13 days is reality. No life support, no tube feeding. Just laying there
> starving to death.
And no brain, other than liquid, to know anything or to feel anything.
> 13 days is reality. No life support, no tube feeding. Just laying there
> starving to death.
she was already dead.
>
> puke, CatholiKKK Con Man.
W.T.S.
Apr 5, 2012, 8:43:46 AM4/5/12
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In article <4f7d8a00$0$305$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk>,
gud...@yahoo.com says...
gud...@yahoo.com says...
> > "Rockinghorse Winner" <badass....@gmx.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:slrnjnprd2.99m....@badass.edu...
> >* It may have been the liquor talking, but
> > Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Apr 4, 12:35?pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >>> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
> >>>
> >>> ?duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor"
> >>> > >> of
> >>> > >> suffering.
> >>> > >Gee Whiz! ?Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
> >>>
> >>> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. ?Try taking your
> >>> > thumb
> >>> > out
> >>> > your ass before posting
Yes, you both are by both actions and words.
> news:slrnjnprd2.99m....@badass.edu...
> >* It may have been the liquor talking, but
> > Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Apr 4, 12:35?pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> >>> In article <64von7ta9ca6031a3cb95866amgao9b...@4ax.com>,
> >>>
> >>> ?duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> > >> I don't see how any person could conceive of one being "in favor"
> >>> > >> of
> >>> > >> suffering.
> >>> > >Gee Whiz! ?Look at the Pope, "duke", look at yourself.
> >>>
> >>> > Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. ?Try taking your
> >>> > thumb
> >>> > out
> >>> > your ass before posting
> >>>
> >>> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
> >>> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
> >>> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
> >>> into a short and painful lives.
> >>
> >> Oops, I meant Duke?s face. (sorry about that)
> >> -
> >>
> >> That outcome only puts a smile on Duke?s and HVAC's face, and makes
> >> them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
> >>
> >> The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
> >> unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
> >> die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
> >> eight or nine.
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> >> http://translate.google.com/#
> >> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?
> >
> > The sad fact that some children come into the world unloved is not
> > a sign to terminate their invaluable lives, but to create a new heart
> > in us that is capable of loving them and taking care of their needs.
>
> Pious, hypocritical twit.
>
Ditto!
> >>> Anyone who opposes birth control, particularly in poor third world
> >>> countries, is definitely in favor of suffering, of both the women who
> >>> have to bear child after child and their children who are too often born
> >>> into a short and painful lives.
> >>
> >> Oops, I meant Duke?s face. (sorry about that)
> >> -
> >>
> >> That outcome only puts a smile on Duke?s and HVAC's face, and makes
> >> them and others of their ZNR/ZND redneck Semitic kind fart with glee.
> >>
> >> The Pope should be made to take care of all those unwanted or
> >> unexpected and soon to be underfed kids that'll become sick and mostly
> >> die before they're old enough to start working at the ripe old age of
> >> eight or nine.
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> >> http://translate.google.com/#
> >> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?
> >
> > The sad fact that some children come into the world unloved is not
> > a sign to terminate their invaluable lives, but to create a new heart
> > in us that is capable of loving them and taking care of their needs.
>
> Pious, hypocritical twit.
>
>
> snip--
> thomas p
>
> Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
>
> David Hume
> snip--
> thomas p
>
> Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
>
> David Hume
duke
Apr 5, 2012, 8:56:27 AM4/5/12
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:03:11 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/4/2012 12:53 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>>
>> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
>> full of women and children.
>And YOU consider them heroes.....Wonderful.
Nice try, but no dice.
>On 4/4/2012 12:53 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>>
>> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
>> full of women and children.
>And YOU consider them heroes.....Wonderful.
duke
Apr 5, 2012, 9:03:30 AM4/5/12
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 19:22:52 +0200, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Op 4-4-2012 18:53, duke schreef:911
>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:43:08 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YAv_tPmho
>Bastard explain me how those 19 hijackers are heroes in the Muslim
>world, while the majority never heard of 911
They're so happy they bomb their own women and children in the marketplac.e
>BTW did you know many of those so called hijackers are still alive today...
My guess, wild though it may be, is that all of them on the 4 commercial
airliners are dead.
>http://guardian.150m.com/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
>how do you explain that inglorious bastard?
Stolen names don't count? Although, like in Patel in India, many have the same
name.
>Op 4-4-2012 18:53, duke schreef:911
>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:43:08 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/3/2012 8:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>>>>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>>>>
>>>> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
>>>> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2012 8:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> PS- In a sense, Christ committed suicide by overturning the
>>>>> money changer's tables at the temple. Ruminate on that a while.
>>>>
>>>> No way. That's like saying the average Medal of Honor winner committed suicide.
>>>> It's call "honor" for a reason.
>>>
>>> So, you are saying that the terrorists who attacked the
>>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>>
>> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
>> full of women and children.
>>> World Trade Centers on 9/11 were honorable heroes?
>>
>> To the muslim world, yes, but they only get medals for bombing market places
>> full of women and children.
>Majority of Muslims never heard of 911....
They do now, and they know it was their religion behind it.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YAv_tPmho
>Bastard explain me how those 19 hijackers are heroes in the Muslim
>world, while the majority never heard of 911
They're so happy they bomb their own women and children in the marketplac.e
>BTW did you know many of those so called hijackers are still alive today...
airliners are dead.
>http://guardian.150m.com/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm
>how do you explain that inglorious bastard?
Stolen names don't count? Although, like in Patel in India, many have the same
name.
duke
Apr 5, 2012, 9:05:33 AM4/5/12
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:06:49 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/4/2012 12:55 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>> Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb out
>> your ass before posting.
>
>
>But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>On 4/4/2012 12:55 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>
>> Neither the Pope nor I are "in favor" of suffering. Try taking your thumb out
>> your ass before posting.
>
>
>But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
HVAC
Apr 5, 2012, 9:10:24 AM4/5/12
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On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:
>
>>
>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
>
> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
>
>>
>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
>
> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
• R. L. Measures.
Apr 5, 2012, 9:42:36 AM4/5/12
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In article <MPG.29e64b7db...@news.west.earthlink.net>,
m1...@earthlink.net wrote:
>In article <rL-040412...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org says...
>
>"duke" has been out of touch with reality ever since he became Catholic.
>>
** indeed W. but that is what makes him so valuable to critics of "God's
Holy Church".
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
m1...@earthlink.net wrote:
>In article <rL-040412...@10.0.1.3>, r...@somis.org says...
>> >On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >>> >So what?
>> >>>
>> >>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>> >>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> >>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
>> death.
>> >>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>> >>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>> >
>> >She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was
MURDERED. And
>> >that's the style you love.
>> >
>> • Denial of reality, the greatest human malady.
>> >
>> >>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>> >>> >So what?
>> >>>
>> >>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>> >>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>> >>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>> >>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
>> death.
>> >>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>> >>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>> >
>> >She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was
MURDERED. And
>> >that's the style you love.
>> >
>
>"duke" has been out of touch with reality ever since he became Catholic.
>>
** indeed W. but that is what makes him so valuable to critics of "God's
Holy Church".
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
• R. L. Measures.
Apr 5, 2012, 9:44:11 AM4/5/12
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In article <s6vqn7didh290r7hd...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:10:05 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>>In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>>>>> >So what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>>>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>>>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>>>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
>>death.
>>>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>>>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>>>
>>>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>>>that's the style you love.
>>>
>>• Denial of reality, the greatest human malady.
>
>13 days is reality. No life support, no tube feeding. Just laying there
>starving to death.
>
• Her brain was so far gone that she probably felt nothing.
>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:10:05 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>>In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
>>>>> >So what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
>>>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
>>>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
>>>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
>>death.
>>>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
>>>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
>>>
>>>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
>>>that's the style you love.
>>>
>>• Denial of reality, the greatest human malady.
>
>13 days is reality. No life support, no tube feeding. Just laying there
>starving to death.
>
duke
Apr 6, 2012, 7:24:49 AM4/6/12
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duke
Apr 6, 2012, 8:29:23 AM4/6/12
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and get on welfare. Why do you think their favorite question is "who's you
daddy"? They have had 40 years now to make something of themselves. What they
really know is selling drugs, dropping babies, sports and murdering each other.
They kill each other over a pair of Nike shoes or a MJordan t-shirt. And
unfortunately, it's going to remain that way. The 90% are waiting of
reparations. And our current Kenyan is trying to hand it to them and I am
disgusted.
You must really live in a pampered environment.
And........don't misunderstand me. I know many highly respected and really nice
black people, and black Catholics are clearly a step above. So don't think
racism, think truth.
duke
Apr 6, 2012, 8:49:20 AM4/6/12
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:10:24 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
>>
>> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
>On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
>>
>> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
in helping the needy worldwide.
W.T.S.
Apr 6, 2012, 8:56:11 AM4/6/12
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In article <qhktn7lu5ub3ke8da...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
you have in mind for them and their families at the worst time of their
lives.
>
> puke, Catholic Monster - Home Invader.
@cox.net says...
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:44:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (? R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >In article <s6vqn7didh290r7hd...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:10:05 -0700, r...@somis.org (? R. L. Measures.) wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >>>>>> >So what?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >>>>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >>>>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >>>>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
> >>>death.
> >>>>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >>>>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
> >>>>
> >>>>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >>>>that's the style you love.
> >>>>
> >>>? Denial of reality, the greatest human malady.
>
> >In article <s6vqn7didh290r7hd...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:10:05 -0700, r...@somis.org (? R. L. Measures.) wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <11lln79m64l4deqts...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 07:00:04 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> >> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> >>>>>> >So what?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which means she wasn't dead.
> >>>>>Yes, it does mean she was dead.
> >>>>>> > Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually
> >>>>>> >think you can recover from brain death??????
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you actually think you can recover from birth? She was starved to
> >>>death.
> >>>>>No, she wasn't. Artificial support by way of a feeding tube was
> >>>>>removed. The brain was already liquefied.
> >>>>
> >>>>She lived in a starved condition for another 13 days. She was MURDERED. And
> >>>>that's the style you love.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>13 days is reality. No life support, no tube feeding. Just laying there
> >>starving to death.
> >>
> >? Her brain was so far gone that she probably felt nothing.
> >>13 days is reality. No life support, no tube feeding. Just laying there
> >>starving to death.
> >>
>
> She had enough to live for 13 days on no life support and being starved to
> death.
Pure, lying bull shit. But, by all means, keep reminding people what
> She had enough to live for 13 days on no life support and being starved to
> death.
you have in mind for them and their families at the worst time of their
lives.
>
> puke, Catholic Monster - Home Invader.
HVAC
Apr 6, 2012, 8:59:29 AM4/6/12
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On 4/6/2012 8:49 AM, duke wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>
>> Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
>
> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
> in helping the needy worldwide.
They are also the group that CREATES most of these needy people.
>
>>>
>>> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>
>> Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
>
> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
> in helping the needy worldwide.
LOL! They create their own market, then collect money to feed
all these people. (Skimming off their cut first, of course)
linuxgal
Apr 6, 2012, 9:21:39 AM4/6/12
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duke wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:10:24 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:
>>>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
>>> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>
>> Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
>
> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
> in helping the needy worldwide.
I don't know any boys that need to be diddled by a priest.
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:10:24 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:
>>>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
>>> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>
>> Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
>
> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
> in helping the needy worldwide.
• R. L. Measures.
Apr 6, 2012, 11:37:36 AM4/6/12
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Alan Ferris
Apr 6, 2012, 12:00:38 PM4/6/12
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:49:20 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
>in helping the needy worldwide.
Liar, the UN does far more than Catholics do. Also they do not lie to
>Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
>in helping the needy worldwide.
people.
--
Ferrit
()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")
W.T.S.
Apr 6, 2012, 12:17:04 PM4/6/12
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In article <1gptn7dj01nk00kvc...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
>
> duke
@cox.net says...
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:10:24 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
> >>
> >> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>
> >Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
>
> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
> in helping the needy worldwide.
The last group in the world to help the needy is the RCC.
>
> >On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>> But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?
> >>
> >> Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.
>
> >Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?
>
> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
> in helping the needy worldwide.
>
> duke
Antares 531
Apr 6, 2012, 12:38:03 PM4/6/12
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 06:27:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 07:17:00 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 4/1/2012 5:29 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>>>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
>>> That's not what I said.
>
>>Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>>As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
>Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
>happens. Now do you understand?
involved in our mortal lives and God has allowed Lucifer/Satan to run
his agenda, as is allegorically shown in Job 1 & 2. God asks us to
bear the load imposed upon us and do the best we can.
Without this kind of exposure to the effects of sin and rebellion,
none of us would be reliable for promotion into immortality and
absolute sovereignty. We would likely gravitate into the same state
that lured Lucifer away from God. Our curiosity regarding the option
of "going our own way, apart from God's will" would overwhelm us and
we would fall just as Lucifer/Satan fell.
But, with adequate hands-on learning, during this mortal phase of our
existence, we are expected to gain enough insight into the effects of
ALL forms of sin and rebellion, to become fully reliable as immortal,
absolutely sovereign beings. Anything short of this would be the
equivalent of God's having pre-programmed us as puppets, or
intimidated us into compliance. This isn't what God wants of us. He
wants us to mature into fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal
beings who can interact with Him at His own level.
>On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 07:17:00 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 4/1/2012 5:29 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>>>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>>>> So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
>
>>> That's not what I said.
>
>>Well then, stop being coy and answer the question.
>>As a christian, are you in favor of human suffering?
>
>Ok, this is a new question. No, I'm not in "favor" of human suffering. But it
>happens. Now do you understand?
>
>duke, American - American
>
>*****
>1 John 3:4-6
>4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
>sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
>appeared so that he might take away our sins.
>And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
>him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
>sin has either seen him or known him.
>*****
>
One key idea in all this is that Lucifer/Satan is still quite deeply
>duke, American - American
>
>*****
>1 John 3:4-6
>4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
>sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
>appeared so that he might take away our sins.
>And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
>him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
>sin has either seen him or known him.
>*****
>
involved in our mortal lives and God has allowed Lucifer/Satan to run
his agenda, as is allegorically shown in Job 1 & 2. God asks us to
bear the load imposed upon us and do the best we can.
Without this kind of exposure to the effects of sin and rebellion,
none of us would be reliable for promotion into immortality and
absolute sovereignty. We would likely gravitate into the same state
that lured Lucifer away from God. Our curiosity regarding the option
of "going our own way, apart from God's will" would overwhelm us and
we would fall just as Lucifer/Satan fell.
But, with adequate hands-on learning, during this mortal phase of our
existence, we are expected to gain enough insight into the effects of
ALL forms of sin and rebellion, to become fully reliable as immortal,
absolutely sovereign beings. Anything short of this would be the
equivalent of God's having pre-programmed us as puppets, or
intimidated us into compliance. This isn't what God wants of us. He
wants us to mature into fully reliable, fully sovereign, immortal
beings who can interact with Him at His own level.
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Apr 6, 2012, 3:51:47 PM4/6/12
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Alan Ferris wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:49:20 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
>> in helping the needy worldwide.
>
> Liar, the UN does far more than Catholics do. Also they do not lie to
> people.
UN: A place where dictators opposed to free speech (Castro, Putin,
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:49:20 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group
>> in helping the needy worldwide.
>
> Liar, the UN does far more than Catholics do. Also they do not lie to
> people.
Ahmedinejad, Mugabe, Obama, Chavez, Kim Jong Un) demand to be heard.
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