Re: Six year old boy: "When are we going to die?"
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 5, 1:52 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 5-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 4, 8:41 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > > On 4-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 4, 5:33 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
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> > > > > > <snip ad hominem>
>
> > > > > No, your ad hominem will live on.
>
> > > > > You started your postings about Israel with a slew of lies
> > > > > about her.
>
> > > > Anyone can verify that I started my posts in this thread
>
> > > Anyone can verify that you do not get to arbitraily
> > > limit the discussion any way you see fit.
>
> > Not limiting the discussion -- limiting my claims.
>
> Your claims are clear, & not just about Israel,
Actually, my claims are generic and not about Israel at all. I've
been posting with regard to human rights. That's why I've been
posting this link where folks can read about the international
definition of genocide.
http://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext.htm
The question is, why are you so anxious to turn a generic discussion
about human rights into an ad hominem argument about "hates Israel?"
Do you think Israel is violating human rights? Or, do you think laws
about human rights don't apply to Israel?
I notice that (for the umpteenth time) you've ignored the questions I
put to you in your repetitious ad hominem arguments. I've repeated
them below -- do try to answer them.
> but about anyone who questions your bigotry:
Ad hominem.
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> Subject: Re: VIDEO: Red Cross accuses Israel
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> On Jan 12, 11:39 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
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> > On 12-Jan-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 12, 2:06 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > On 12-Jan-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > <snip>
> > > > > I agree. The plight of Native Americans today much better than it
> > > > > used to be.
>
> > > > The difference being that so-called Palestinians live in Gaza solely
> > > > because
> > > > they choose to.
>
> > > Do you live in your home "solely because you choose to?"
>
> > Of course - don't you?
>
> Of course.
>
> And the point of the comment was to illustrate the absurdity of saying
> that Palestinians live in Gaza "solely because they choose to."
>
> The comment was disingenuous.
Why do you think the Palestinians live in Gaza?
> > And I do have to say, upon further reflection, that I simplified matters.
> > Many of them cannot move out because the other Arab nations will
> > not take them unless forced to (such as in the case of those who are
> > actually citizens of other countries) - even tho' they had invited them
> > in back in '48. They want them to remain a festering wound in Israel's
> > side.
>
> Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes.
>
> [end quote]
>
> NOW go ahead & pretend you haven't been repeating the
> lie that Israel "steals Palestinian homes"
Are you denying that the state of Israel ever took a home from a
Palestinian?
In your opinion, has the state of Israel ever done anything wrong or
evil?
>
> You do it elsewhere:
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> On Jan 14, 8:34 am, Matt Silberstein<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:01:40 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> > Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> > <fde79ff7-72e0-4800-9028-4d00044ea...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
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> Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
> kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
Odd that you think this is part of an attack on Israel. Do you claim
Israel has never bombed innocent civilians?
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>
>
> > You seem paranoid.
>
> Only to pathetic bigots desperate to avoid their own hatefilled lies.
You think a person is a "pathetic bigot" for advocating human
rights?
> > <snip other quotes that are not mine>
>
> You are such a pathetic & desperate liar.
Mor ad hominem
> All of those quotes were posts of yours & they were all discussing Israel in
> a falsely negative way.
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> On Jan 9, 7:33 am, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
> wrote:
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> > On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, John Manning wrote:
> > > Jan 8 - The ICRC says Israel held up ambulances for days while starving
> > > children waited for help beside the bodies of their dead mothers.
>
> > > The neutral International Committee of the Red Cross is accusing Israel
> > > of
> > > breaching international humanitarian law.
>
> > > The Israeli army said any serious allegations would be investigated
> > > properly
> > > on receipt of a formal complaint.
>
> > Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> > their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> > can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> > of Gaza really belongs to Israel?
>
> Very interesting questions. And I think they apply as well to
> America.
>
> [end quote]
>
> Still going to pretend you didn't post this, agreeing falsely that
> Israel is "evil & vile", all stemming from a bigoted twisted
> interpretation of what "chosen" means?
Are you asserting that the state of Israel has never done an evil
thing? Do you think the state of Israel is capable of doing evil
things? Do you think the state of Israel is perfect?
>
> And then this -
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> From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:01:53 -0800 (PST)
> Local: Wed, Jan 14 2009 5:01 pm
> Subject: Re: "Now kill all the boys"
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> On Jan 14, 1:41 pm, Matt Silberstein
>
> <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:19:07 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> > Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> > <b2e6a79d-dcb9-46ea-b580-d2bc7306b...@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
> > >On Jan 14, 12:55 pm, Matt Silberstein
> > ><RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:36:41 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> > >> Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> > >> <fbf29559-48f9-4b61-a2b8-8a4f3417e...@x8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >On Jan 14, 8:34 am, Matt Silberstein
> > >> ><RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >> >> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:01:40 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> > >> >> Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> > >> >> <fde79ff7-72e0-4800-9028-4d00044ea...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >On Jan 14, 5:55 am, Matt Silberstein
>
> > >> >> Yeah, it could not have anything to do with the decades of terrorism
> > >> >> against Israel. It could not have anything to do with deadly
> > >> >>violence
> > >> >> directed against Jews.
> > >> >Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> > >> >percentage will become "terrorists."
> > >> So you understand why the Jews forced from Hebron by the Arabs would
> > >> be angry.
> > >Of course. I'm not the one taking sides, Matt. Are you?
> > >> > Indiscriminate bombing that
> > >> >kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> > >> >for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> > >> >way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
> > >> What about things like giving back Sinai and Gaza?
> > >What about them?
> > You listed only some things that Israel has done and somehow ignored
> > the clear moves towards peace.
>
> Mat, this is what I said: Indiscriminate bombing that kills innocent
> civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye for an eye and a
> tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good way to drag
> confrontation through generation after generation.
>
> You will notice I didn't mention Israel once.
How does that citation (above) support your "hates Israel" ad hominem
argument?
>
> [end quote]
>
> Except, of course, that the entire post had been about Israel
> & your false accusations of oppression & the supposed results.
>
> > Okay, so you failed miserably to show that I've referenced the modern
> > state of Israel in this thread as having committed genocide. That's
> > as expected.
>
> No, I posted proof that you have lied (& not just) about Israel & that
> you obviously meant your pathetic re-posting of the definition to refer
> to her - as exemplified by your refusal to admit that she's not doing it.
My post was the international definition of genocide. Why do you
think that definition is "pathetic?"
>
> &, while we're at it, you can explain how, after whining that I
> had "falsely attributed things to you" that I hadn't (which you
> are, interestingly enough, doing again), you went & falsely
> attributed this post -
>
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> On Jan 13, 5:49 pm, "ATP*" <waxwingsl...@azurepane.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > >> Maybe there are people already living in those other countries and they
> > >> would be displaced by the refugees? Maybe people have a connection to
> > >> the
> > >> land? I guess they all need to move to give Israel lebensraum.
> > > Why should they have to move out of their own homes at all???
> > Because they are obviously unworthy of life, let alone living in the
> > promised land.
>
> [end quote]
>
> - to me.
>
> [begin quote]
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> Duwaynea Anderson
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> More options Jan 14, 10:58 am
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> From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:58:10 -0800 (PST)
> Local: Wed, Jan 14 2009 10:58 am
> Subject: Re: VIDEO: Red Cross accuses Israel
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> On Jan 14, 7:52 am, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
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> > On 14-Jan-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 13, 5:49 pm, "ATP*" <waxwingsl...@azurepane.com> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > >> Maybe there are people already living in those other countries and
> > > > >> they
> > > > >> would be displaced by the refugees? Maybe people have a connection
> > > > >to
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> land? I guess they all need to move to give Israel lebensraum.
> > > > > Why should they have to move out of their own homes at all???
> > > > Because they are obviously unworthy of life, let alone living in the
> > > > promised land.
> > > Wow! It sounds like you are suggesting genocide -- or at least laying
> > > the justification for genocide.
> > No, he is projecting his own bigotry onto me.
>
> Susan, *you* said "they are obviously unworthy of life..."
>
> That was you, Susan. Not someone else.
>
> It seems a truly evil and vile thing to say that a group of people are
> "unworthy of life." Tell me, do you think the little Palestinian
> children are "unworthy of life?"
I notice that you never did answer that question. So, please answer
it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
life?
>
> [end quote]
>
> & you did it again where you hoped I wouldn't see:
>
> Duwaynea Anderson
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> On Jan 14, 5:55 am, Matt Silberstein<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2009
>
> 20:45:09 -0800, in alt.atheism , Jack > <jack@the_wild_kingdom.com> in ><o5ebl.11325$as4.11...@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> wrote: > >Seon Ferguson wrote:
> > >> Good thing the OT isn't the literal historic truth but symbolic. >
> >Literal or figurative, it is the guiding principle of Jews and, to a >
> >lesser extent, Christians > Got any examples of Jews using that passage as
>
> a guiding principle? There is another poster, names Susan that says
> Palestinians are "unworthy to live." I wonder if she got the motivation for
> her genocidal hatred from Moses?
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> From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:01:40 -0800 (PST)
> Local: Wed, Jan 14 2009 11:01 am
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> On Jan 14, 5:55 am, Matt Silberstein
>
> <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:45:09 -0800, in alt.atheism , Jack
> > <jack@the_wild_kingdom.com> in
> > <o5ebl.11325$as4.11...@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> wrote:
> > >Seon Ferguson wrote:
> > >> Good thing the OT isn't the literal historic truth but symbolic.
> > >Literal or figurative, it is the guiding principle of Jews and, to a
> > >lesser extent, Christians
> > Got any examples of Jews using that passage as a guiding principle?
>
> There is another poster, names Susan that says Palestinians are
> "unworthy to live." I wonder if she got the motivation for her
> genocidal hatred from Moses?
>
> [end quote]
>
> When I pointed out your egregious action, you disappeared.
> Why is that?
I notice that you never did answer that question. So, please answer
it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
life?
>
> Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Not limiting the discussion -- limiting my claims.
> >
> > Your claims are clear, & not just about Israel,
>
> Actually, my claims are generic and not about Israel at all.
Actually, you lie.
Everything you have posted that I have quoted has to do
solely with Israel - or the one person who has insisted on
challenging you on your lies.
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Of course.
The comment was disingenuous.
> And I do have to say, upon further reflection, that I simplified matters.
> Many of them cannot move out because the other Arab nations will
> not take them unless forced to (such as in the case of those who are
> actually citizens of other countries) - even tho' they had invited them
> in back in '48. They want them to remain a festering wound in Israel's
> side.
Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes.
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NOW go ahead & pretend you haven't been repeating the
lie that Israel "steals Palestinian homes"
You do it elsewhere:
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On Jan 14, 8:34 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:01:40 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> <fde79ff7-72e0-4800-9028-4d00044ea...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
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>
> You seem paranoid.
Only to pathetic bigots desperate to avoid their own hatefilled lies.
>
> <snip other quotes that are not mine>
You are such a pathetic & desperate liar.
All of those quotes were posts of yours & they were all discussing Israel in
a falsely negative way.
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And then this -
> >What about them?
[end quote]
Except, of course, that the entire post had been about Israel
& your false accusations of oppression & the supposed results.
> Okay, so you failed miserably to show that I've referenced the modern
> state of Israel in this thread as having committed genocide. That's
> as expected.
No, I posted proof that you have lied (& not just) about Israel & that
you obviously meant your pathetic re-posting of the definition to refer
to her - as exemplified by your refusal to admit that she's not doing it.
&, while we're at it, you can explain how, after whining that I
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- to me.
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Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Not limiting the discussion -- limiting my claims.
>
> > > Your claims are clear, & not just about Israel,
>
> > Actually, my claims are generic and not about Israel at all.
>
> Actually, you lie.
Still working on that charm?
> Everything you have posted that I have quoted has to do
> solely with Israel
Really? Well, here is one of things I said, that you quoted. Find
the word "Israel" in it:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Here's another of my quotes that you've used. Find the word "Israel"
in it, too:
"Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes." [Duwayne
Anderson]
The fact is these are generic statements. It reflects poorly on
Israel, I think, when her apologists seem so insulted by such
humanitarian statements.
> - or the one person who has insisted on
> challenging you on your lies.
Still working on that charm?
I notice that the rest of your post is just a reposting of your ad
hominem argument -- the same one that I've replied to, point by point,
and where you systematically snip the replies and just repost the same
stuff. Here are the comments I've made before -- do try to deal with
them this time.
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> On Jan 12, 11:39 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 12-Jan-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 12, 2:06 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > On 12-Jan-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > I agree. The plight of Native Americans today much better than it
> > > > > used to be.
> > > > The difference being that so-called Palestinians live in Gaza solely
> > > > because
> > > > they choose to.
> > > Do you live in your home "solely because you choose to?"
> > Of course - don't you?
> Of course.
> And the point of the comment was to illustrate the absurdity of saying
> that Palestinians live in Gaza "solely because they choose to."
> The comment was disingenuous.
Why do you think the Palestinians live in Gaza?
> > And I do have to say, upon further reflection, that I simplified matters.
> > Many of them cannot move out because the other Arab nations will
> > not take them unless forced to (such as in the case of those who are
> > actually citizens of other countries) - even tho' they had invited them
> > in back in '48. They want them to remain a festering wound in Israel's
> > side.
> Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes.
> [end quote]
> NOW go ahead & pretend you haven't been repeating the
> lie that Israel "steals Palestinian homes"
Are you denying that the state of Israel ever took a home from a
Palestinian?
In your opinion, has the state of Israel ever done anything wrong or
evil toward the Palestinians?
> You do it elsewhere:
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> On Jan 14, 8:34 am, Matt Silberstein<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:01:40 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> > Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> > <fde79ff7-72e0-4800-9028-4d00044ea...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
> Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
> kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
Odd that you think this is part of an attack on Israel. Do you claim
Israel has never bombed innocent civilians?
> [end quote]
> > You seem paranoid.
> Only to pathetic bigots desperate to avoid their own hatefilled lies.
You think a person is a "pathetic bigot" for advocating human
rights?
> > <snip other quotes that are not mine>
> You are such a pathetic & desperate liar.
Mor ad hominem
> All of those quotes were posts of yours & they were all discussing Israel in
> a falsely negative way.
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Are you asserting that the state of Israel has never done an evil
thing? Do you think the state of Israel is capable of doing evil
things to the Palestinians? Do you think the state of Israel is
perfect?
> And then this -
How does that citation (above) support your "hates Israel" ad hominem
argument?
> [end quote]
> Except, of course, that the entire post had been about Israel
> & your false accusations of oppression & the supposed results.
> > Okay, so you failed miserably to show that I've referenced the modern
> > state of Israel in this thread as having committed genocide. That's
> > as expected.
> No, I posted proof that you have lied (& not just) about Israel & that
> you obviously meant your pathetic re-posting of the definition to refer
> to her - as exemplified by your refusal to admit that she's not doing it.
My post was the international definition of genocide. Why do you
think that definition is "pathetic?"
> &, while we're at it, you can explain how, after whining that I
I notice that you never did answer that question. So, please answer
it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
life?
I notice that you never did answer that question. So, please answer
it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
life?
> Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 6, 12:07 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 6, 12:06 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Not limiting the discussion -- limiting my claims.
> >
> > > > Your claims are clear, & not just about Israel,
> >
> > > Actually, my claims are generic and not about Israel at all.
> >
> > Actually, you lie.
>
> Still working on that charm?
You are, indeed.
> > Everything you have posted that I have quoted has to do
> > solely with Israel
>
> Really?
Absolutely, It's obvious to anyone following your posts.
> Well, here is one of things I said, that you quoted. Find
> the word "Israel" in it:
>
Just because you snipped the context - the fact that in
every post you are agreeing to someone lying about Israel
& capping it with a lie of your own, doesn't mean you
*didn't* lie about Israel.
> "Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
> kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
> [Duwayne Anderson]
>
As I said above: the thread was about Israel, someone was
lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post.
> Here's another of my quotes that you've used. Find the word "Israel"
> in it, too:
>
> "Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes." [Duwayne
> Anderson]
>
See previous statements: you were agreeing with yet another liar about
Israel.
> The fact is these are generic statements.
The fact is that you made them in a false context: about Israel.
> It reflects poorly on
> Israel, I think, when her apologists seem so insulted by such
> humanitarian statements.
>
It reflects poorly on you that you not only think that lies
reflect poorly on anyone except those who tell them, &
that anyone who insists on telling the truth is an "aplologist"
>
> > - or the one person who has insisted on
> > challenging you on your lies.
>
> Still working on that charm?
>
You leave me no choice.
> I notice that the rest of your post is just a reposting of your ad
> hominem argument
I notice that every post of yours contains the lie that this is
an ad hominem argument, as well as a pathetic dodge of
every lie you have told.
-- the same one that I've replied to, point by point,
And you lie yet again. Not one point have you *answered*,
except with a pretense that you somehow get to ask
questions instead of explain your lie.
> and where you systematically snip the replies
And this is yet another lie.
Not one post where you actually pretend to answer anything
did I snip. I have - NOW that you've finally deigned to pretend
you're even answering anything - pointed out that you aren't
answering anything.
> and just repost the same
> stuff. Here are the comments I've made before -- do try to deal with
> them this time.
>
I have - do you want me to show just how pathetic you are yet AGAIN?
I have taken this apart before, but will now demolish it from a
different angle:
I see you are now changing from STOLEN to TAKEN.
As if no one can tell the difference.
Israel has taken homes from EVERYONE who has
a) built them without a permit - including Israelis
b) used them for terrorism.
It is not Israel's fault is the so-called Palestinians insist on
being criminals.
& now, to go on to my earlier answer:
Are you trying to say that ONLY in Israel should buildings be
allowed to be constructed w/out legal permits? That ONLY in
Israel should houses being used for criminal activity *not* be
kept from doing so?
Or are you pretending that there's ever been any other reason
far the charge you twist so falsely?
> In your opinion, has the state of Israel ever done anything wrong or
> evil toward the Palestinians?
>
They have done nothing they weren't forced to do.
Odd that you think anyone is stupid enough not to understand how
you meant it to be such, considering the context.
> Do you claim
> Israel has never bombed innocent civilians?
>
DO you claim that the terrorists don't force her to do so by using them as
shields?
> > [end quote]
> > > You seem paranoid.
> > Only to pathetic bigots desperate to avoid their own hatefilled lies.
>
> You think a person is a "pathetic bigot" for advocating human
> rights?
>
You think anyone is too stupid to understand that you are just
lying about Israel & not “advocating human rights?”
> > > <snip other quotes that are not mine>
> > You are such a pathetic & desperate liar.
>
> Mor ad hominem
>
More proven facts.
Why did you not answer the point I raised? Are you asserting that Judaism
is are religion that really thinks Jews are superior to everyone else? I
won't
ask about the other parts, because I know your negative opinion of Israel,
falsely construed as it is.
> Do you think the state of Israel is capable of doing evil
> things to the Palestinians? Do you think the state of Israel is
> perfect?
>
Do you think these strawmen will cover the fact that you have agreed with
very bigoted statements about not just Israel, but Jews?
There is no “ad hominem” argument - you lied about Israel “indiscriminately
bombing civilians”, & you have ignored the fact that only Israel has made
any
move towards peace.
> > [end quote]
> > Except, of course, that the entire post had been about Israel
> > & your false accusations of oppression & the supposed results.
> > > Okay, so you failed miserably to show that I've referenced the modern
> > > state of Israel in this thread as having committed genocide. That's
> > > as expected.
> > No, I posted proof that you have lied (& not just) about Israel & that
> > you obviously meant your pathetic re-posting of the definition to refer
> > to her - as exemplified by your refusal to admit that she's not doing
> > it.
>
> My post was the international definition of genocide.
Your post was to obliterate the previous poster's facts about how Israel
was not committing it.
> Why do you
> think that definition is "pathetic?"
>
Why do you think that these pathetic lies will convince anyone but you?
No, I did not - & I proved it, & you ignored it.
> > That was you, Susan. Not someone else.
You lied then & you are lying bow by not acknoqledging it.
> > It seems a truly evil and vile thing to say that a group of people are
> > "unworthy of life." Tell me, do you think the little Palestinian
> > children are "unworthy of life?"
>
> I notice that you never did answer that question.
I notice you never did acknowledge that I never made the remarks
in the first place.
> So, please answer
> it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
> life?
>
Have you stopped beating your wife?
I notice that you have not answered any question that you
have raised about yourself, & are still pretending that you
had any right to even ask this disgusting question of me
when it is *you* who has proven yourself to be the bigot,
with your lies about Israel & your lies about me.
You are the one who has dodged every single point.
You have lied about Israel & you have lied about me -
and we all know why.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 6, 12:07 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 6, 12:06 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Not limiting the discussion -- limiting my claims.
>
> > > > > Your claims are clear, & not just about Israel,
>
> > > > Actually, my claims are generic and not about Israel at all.
>
> > > Actually, you lie.
>
> > Still working on that charm?
>
> You are, indeed.
>
> > > Everything you have posted that I have quoted has to do
> > > solely with Israel
>
> > Really?
>
> Absolutely, It's obvious to anyone following your posts.
>
> > Well, here is one of things I said, that you quoted. Find
> > the word "Israel" in it:
>
> Just because you snipped the context -
No. I snipped nothing. You posted the following sentence as an
example of "hatred" of Israel. Find the word "Israel" in the
sentence. Point to the specific phrase that you think expresses
"hate."
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
> the fact that in
> every post you are agreeing to someone lying about Israel
Susan, you are a fanatic. In your mind anyone that is the least
critical of anything Israel does "hates" her.
> & capping it with a lie of your own, doesn't mean you
> *didn't* lie about Israel.
Point out the "lie" about Israel in my quote below:
> > "Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> > percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
> > kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> > for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> > way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
> > [Duwayne Anderson]
>
> As I said above: the thread was about Israel, someone was
> lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post.
Still waiting for you to demonstrate how that quote shows "hatred"
toward Israel.
> > Here's another of my quotes that you've used. Find the word "Israel"
> > in it, too:
>
> > "Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> > accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes." [Duwayne
> > Anderson]
>
> See previous statements: you were agreeing with yet another liar about
> Israel.
Still waiting for you to demonstrate how that quote shows "hatred"
toward Israel.
>
> > The fact is these are generic statements.
>
> The fact is that you made them in a false context: about Israel.
They were made in the context of the way the United States treated
Native Americans. But even if they *were* made in the context of
Israel, how do they demonstrate hatred of Israel?
> > It reflects poorly on
> > Israel, I think, when her apologists seem so insulted by such
> > humanitarian statements.
>
> It reflects poorly on you that you not only think that lies
Do you think you advance the cause of the state of Israel by being a
fanatic?
> reflect poorly on anyone except those who tell them, &
> that anyone who insists on telling the truth is an "aplologist"
>
>
>
> > > - or the one person who has insisted on
> > > challenging you on your lies.
>
> > Still working on that charm?
>
> You leave me no choice.
You have no free agency?
>
> > I notice that the rest of your post is just a reposting of your ad
> > hominem argument
>
> I notice that every post of yours contains the lie that this is
> an ad hominem argument,
Since my original post was about the international definition of
genocide, and since we are now discussing me instead of the
international definition of genocide your arguments have been ad
hominem to the max.
> as well as a pathetic dodge of
> every lie you have told.
I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
Israel a bad name.
> -- the same one that I've replied to, point by point,
>
> And you lie yet again.
I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
Israel a bad name.
> Not one point have you *answered*,
> except with a pretense that you somehow get to ask
> questions instead of explain your lie.
I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
Israel a bad name.
> > and where you systematically snip the replies
>
> And this is yet another lie.
I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
Israel a bad name.
> Not one post where you actually pretend to answer anything
> did I snip.
I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
Israel a bad name.
> I have - NOW that you've finally deigned to pretend
> you're even answering anything - pointed out that you aren't
> answering anything.
>
> > and just repost the same
> > stuff. Here are the comments I've made before -- do try to deal with
> > them this time.
>
> I have - do you want me to show just how pathetic you are yet AGAIN?
I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
Israel a bad name.
Susan, you didn't answer that question. Why didn't you?
>
> > > > And I do have to say, upon further reflection, that I simplified
> > > > matters.
> > > > Many of them cannot move out because the other Arab nations will
> > > > not take them unless forced to (such as in the case of those who are
> > > > actually citizens of other countries) - even tho' they had invited
> > > > them
> > > > in back in '48. They want them to remain a festering wound in Israel's
> > > > side.
> > > Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> > > accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes.
> > > [end quote]
> > > NOW go ahead & pretend you haven't been repeating the
> > > lie that Israel "steals Palestinian homes"
>
> > Are you denying that the state of Israel ever took a home from a
> > Palestinian?
>
> I have taken this apart before, but will now demolish it from a
> different angle:
>
> I see you are now changing from STOLEN to TAKEN.
If someone takes your home without permission it's called "stolen."
> As if no one can tell the difference.
You really trying to make a legal argument that the homes were just
"taken" and not "stolen?"
That's pretty weak.
> Israel has taken homes from EVERYONE who has
> a) built them without a permit - including Israelis
Why should Palestianians have to get permits from Israel to build
homes?
> b) used them for terrorism.
Is reading a newspaper in your living room using your home for
"terrorism?"
> It is not Israel's fault is the so-called Palestinians insist on
> being criminals.
Your hatred of Palestianians is well known, Susan.
> & now, to go on to my earlier answer:
>
> Are you trying to say that ONLY in Israel should buildings be
> allowed to be constructed w/out legal permits?
Why should Palestianians have to get permits from Israel to build
homes?
> That ONLY in
> Israel should houses being used for criminal activity *not* be
> kept from doing so?
If someone is a criminal why don't they lock them up? Why destroy the
home?
> Or are you pretending that there's ever been any other reason
> far the charge you twist so falsely?
I'm not the one pretending, Susan. It's clear that Israel is
incapable of doing anything you would object to. No matter what.
Including (if they did) genocide.
If I'm mistaken then please list a single act against the
Palestinians, committed by Israel, that you condemn.
> > In your opinion, has the state of Israel ever done anything wrong or
> > evil toward the Palestinians?
>
> They have done nothing they weren't forced to do.
You didn't answer the question. Why? In your opinion, has the state
of Israel ever done anything wrong or evil toward the Palestinians?
> > > You do it elsewhere:
You just ignored the question. Do you claim Israel has never bombed
innocent civilians?
> > > [end quote]
> > > > You seem paranoid.
> > > Only to pathetic bigots desperate to avoid their own hatefilled lies.
>
> > You think a person is a "pathetic bigot" for advocating human
> > rights?
>
> You think anyone is too stupid to understand that you are just
> lying about Israel & not “advocating human rights?”
You didn't answer the question. Do you think a person is a "pathetic
bigot" for advocating human rights?
>
> > > > <snip other quotes that are not mine>
> > > You are such a pathetic & desperate liar.
>
> > Mor ad hominem
>
> More proven facts.
Ad hominem noted.
You didn't answer the question. Are you asserting that the state of
Israel has never done an evil thing? Since I asked my question first,
answer it and then I'll answer yours.
Is there a particular reason you are afraid to answer that question?
> Are you asserting that Judaism
> is are religion that really thinks Jews are superior to everyone else? I
> won't
> ask about the other parts, because I know your negative opinion of Israel,
> falsely construed as it is.
>
> > Do you think the state of Israel is capable of doing evil
> > things to the Palestinians? Do you think the state of Israel is
> > perfect?
>
> Do you think these strawmen will cover the fact that you have agreed with
> very bigoted statements about not just Israel, but Jews?
You didn't answer the questions. Do you think the state of Israel is
capable of doing evil things to the Palestinians? Do you think the
state of Israel is perfect?
No, I asked a question.
And your continued ad hominem is noted.
> & you have ignored the fact that only Israel has made
> any
> move towards peace.
Not at all. And your continued ad hominem is noted.
> > > [end quote]
> > > Except, of course, that the entire post had been about Israel
> > > & your false accusations of oppression & the supposed results.
> > > > Okay, so you failed miserably to show that I've referenced the modern
> > > > state of Israel in this thread as having committed genocide. That's
> > > > as expected.
> > > No, I posted proof that you have lied (& not just) about Israel & that
> > > you obviously meant your pathetic re-posting of the definition to refer
> > > to her - as exemplified by your refusal to admit that she's not doing
> > > it.
>
> > My post was the international definition of genocide.
>
> Your post was to obliterate the previous poster's facts about how Israel
> was not committing it.
How did posting the link to the international definition of genocide
do that?
> > Why do you
> > think that definition is "pathetic?"
>
> Why do you think that these pathetic lies will convince anyone but you?
Continued ad hominem noted.
Do you think the Palestinians are worthy of life? Do you think the
life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
> > > That was you, Susan. Not someone else.
>
> You lied then & you are lying bow by not acknoqledging it.
There was a false attribution, but since you have refused to clarrify
it certainly seems you think the Palestinians are unworthy of life.
You could clear it all up by simply answering this simple question: Do
you think the life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
> > > It seems a truly evil and vile thing to say that a group of people are
> > > "unworthy of life." Tell me, do you think the little Palestinian
> > > children are "unworthy of life?"
>
> > I notice that you never did answer that question.
>
> I notice you never did acknowledge that I never made the remarks
> in the first place.
Done long ago. And still you refuse to answer the simple questions:
Do you think the Palestinians are worthy of life? Do you think the
life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
> > So, please answer
> > it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
> > life?
>
> Have you stopped beating your wife?
And once again you have ignored the question. Why is it so hard for
you to answer this simple question: Do you think the little
Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
>
>
>
>
>
And still you ignore the question: Do you think the little
Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
> & are still pretending that you
> had any right to even ask this disgusting question of me
> when it is *you* who has proven yourself to be the bigot,
> with your lies about Israel & your lies about me.
Ad hominem noted
>
> You are the one who has dodged every single point.
> You have lied about Israel & you have lied about me -
> and we all know why.
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On 9-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 8, 8:32 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 6, 12:07 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 6, 12:06 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Not limiting the discussion -- limiting my claims.
> >
> > > > > > Your claims are clear, & not just about Israel,
> >
> > > > > Actually, my claims are generic and not about Israel at all.
> >
> > > > Actually, you lie.
> >
> > > Still working on that charm?
> >
> > You are, indeed.
> >
> > > > Everything you have posted that I have quoted has to do
> > > > solely with Israel
> >
> > > Really?
> >
> > Absolutely, It's obvious to anyone following your posts.
> >
> > > Well, here is one of things I said, that you quoted. Find
> > > the word "Israel" in it:
> >
> > Just because you snipped the context -
>
> No. I snipped nothing.
Then why didn't you reply to any of it?
Every single time one of the lies you told, or the lies to which
you agreed was posted, you dodged it with a question - always
one where you twisted words that were posted before (such as
turning "Stealing" into "taking"), or, even more egregiously,
where you *assigned* me a disgusting position (about children)
& then demanded that I answer to it, as if you had any right
to do that, based on your posts *or* mine.
> You posted the following sentence as an
> example of "hatred" of Israel.
Yes, because they were in agreement to other lies about Israel.
> Find the word "Israel" in the
> sentence.
If you can't be an adult & admit to what you were replying to,
I will be happy to go back through all the posts *again* &
post the posts to which you were replying.
> Point to the specific phrase that you think expresses
> "hate."
Again? Ok - even if it's only to show everyone how you dodge
your hatred & lies.
> "Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
> kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
> [Duwayne Anderson]
There were a multitude of hateful lies in this post of yours:
You can pretend that because you did not mention Israel
*outright* in this particular post that you somehow escape the
truth, but since the post was in answer to someone lying about
Israel & you agreeing to it, that makes you just as culpable.
This is where you lied about Israel removing people from their
homes when she had not, lied about indiscriminate bombings
of anyone, much less civilians, & further pretended that it
had been done out of revenge. Nothing could be further form
the truth.
> > the fact that in
> > every post you are agreeing to someone lying about Israel
>
> Susan, you are a fanatic.
Dodge noted.
I corner you in a lie & you throw out another one instead of either
trying to refute the lie, or at least confessing to the truth.
You are a sad liar, & & a hypocritical one.
You have been screeching about "ad hominem" and yet you
are the one who is indulging in it.
> In your mind anyone that is the least
> critical of anything Israel does "hates" her.
A lie. Everyone who flat-out lies about her in horrendous ways
is not being "in the least critical".
When you lie about something the way you do, over & over,
& refuse to even acknowledge it, that's hatred.
> > & capping it with a lie of your own, doesn't mean you
> > *didn't* lie about Israel.
>
> Point out the "lie" about Israel in my quote below:
AGAIN? Are you really this dense?
Okay---
> > > "Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes
#1) Israel has never done this in the manner you allege here
in agreeing to someone falsely describing Israel's behavior
> Indiscriminate bombing
Israel has never done this, either.
> that
> > > kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> > > for an eye and a tooth for a tooth"
& Israel hasn't done this. And "eye for an eye" would have
meant that Israel would have openly pledged herself to the
destruction of those openly pledged to destroy her, & they
would have been gone by now.
> > >seems to be a particularly good
> > > way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
> > > [Duwayne Anderson]
> >
> > As I said above: the thread was about Israel, someone was
> > lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post.
>
>
> Still waiting for you to demonstrate how that quote shows "hatred"
> toward Israel.
What part of
" the thread was about Israel, someone was
> > lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post"
do you not get? Or do you think anyone else could possibly have missed?
> > > Here's another of my quotes that you've used. Find the word "Israel"
> > > in it, too:
> >
> > > "Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> > > accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes." [Duwayne
> > > Anderson]
> >
> > See previous statements: you were agreeing with yet another liar about
> > Israel.
>
>
> Still waiting for you to demonstrate how that quote shows "hatred"
> toward Israel.
What part of
" the thread was about Israel, someone was
> > lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post"
do you not get? Or do you think anyone else could possibly
have missed?
(But it's nice to see that, once again, you have nothing but
"cut-n-paste" to use as a shield against the truth that harms
you so much)
> >
> > > The fact is these are generic statements.
> >
> > The fact is that you made them in a false context: about Israel.
>
> They were made in the context of the way the United States treated
> Native Americans. But even if they *were* made in the context of
> Israel, how do they demonstrate hatred of Israel?
Because, as I have pointed out over & over, Israel has not done
the things you lied about her doing.
> > > It reflects poorly on
> > > Israel, I think, when her apologists seem so insulted by such
> > > humanitarian statements.
> >
> > It reflects poorly on you that you not only think that lies
>
> Do you think you advance the cause of the state of Israel by being a
> fanatic?
Dodge noted - once again, when cornered about your lies
about Israel, you assign me a false position & demand I
answer it, instead of even acknowledging that you were
caught, flat-footed.
> > reflect poorly on anyone except those who tell them, &
> > that anyone who insists on telling the truth is an "aplologist"
> >
> >
> >
> > > > - or the one person who has insisted on
> > > > challenging you on your lies.
> >
> > > Still working on that charm?
> >
> > You leave me no choice.
>
>
> You have no free agency?
I understand fully how the truth means nothing to you.
Honest & decent people, however are not like that.
> >
> > > I notice that the rest of your post is just a reposting of your ad
> > > hominem argument
> >
> > I notice that every post of yours contains the lie that this is
> > an ad hominem argument,
>
> Since my original post was about the international definition of
> genocide
As has been pointed out every time you drag out this lame
dodge, you started your postings about Israel with a slew of
lies about her. When confronted with the proof that Israel was
not committing genocide in this thread, you snipped that proof,
and posted a cut-n-paste that not only does not inculpate her,
it exculpates her - which you refused to acknowledge.
Are you really so stupid that you didn't think I would check
on what else you had to say after your attempts to try to
smear Israel in an indirect way? I smelled a rat & your
other posts proved you were one.
When confronted with this truth, with your actions, and a
challenge to admit the truth, you proceeded to lie about your
actions, snip all the evidence of your actions, and lie further -
not just about Israel, but about me & everything that I have said.
> and since we are now discussing me
We were always discussing you.
I have not bothered with anything else because I hate lies.
> instead of the
> international definition of genocide your arguments have been ad
> hominem to the max.
Since you pretend to have been discussing "only" genocide,
and I have never pretended to be discussing only that, it is
obviously *only your* arguments that have been ad hominem
> > as well as a pathetic dodge of
> > every lie you have told.
>
> I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you.
Dodge noted. & yet another lie thrown out instead of answering
for your actions.
BTW, this is the 2nd lamest dodge of all Jew-haters: just after the
blood libel & the dual loyalty crap. Just so you know.
> You give
> Israel a bad name.
Only among those who want to see her roll over & die in
the face of all hatred such as yours. I *live* to giver her
*that* sort of "bad name [sic]."
You, OTOH, are determined to actually give her a bad
name - this is why you lie about me when I point out your
lies about her - none of which you can answer, or ever will,
because you know you cannot.
> > Not one point have you *answered*,
> > except with a pretense that you somehow get to ask
> > questions instead of explain your lie.
>
> I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> Israel a bad name.
ROTFLOL!!
As if we needed any further evidence as to just how desperate
you are!
You lie, I caught you & this is not only all you can come up with,
you actually have to repeat it! & yet you actually "think" no one
can see how lame you are!!
Let's see if you'll do it again----
> > > and where you systematically snip the replies
> >
> > And this is yet another lie.
>
> I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> Israel a bad name.
>
Oh, wow - you DO!
And it's really simpe cut-n-paste, because you have the same
typo in each section!!!
LOLHMSWTIME!!!
>
> > Not one post where you actually pretend to answer anything
> > did I snip.
>
> I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> Israel a bad name.
>
TOO FUNNY!!!
What a loser you are!
>
> > I have - NOW that you've finally deigned to pretend
> > you're even answering anything - pointed out that you aren't
> > answering anything.
> >
> > > and just repost the same
> > > stuff. Here are the comments I've made before -- do try to deal with
> > > them this time.
> >
> > I have - do you want me to show just how pathetic you are yet AGAIN?
>
> I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> Israel a bad name.
>
OMG - how many times is it now, 5? 6??
Gee, if you can't even answer points raised from your own posts,
you should give up Usenet.
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I did. The answer is above. Why did you lie about that, too?
>
> >
> > > > > And I do have to say, upon further reflection, that I simplified
> > > > > matters.
> > > > > Many of them cannot move out because the other Arab nations will
> > > > > not take them unless forced to (such as in the case of those who
> > > > >are
> > > > > actually citizens of other countries) - even tho' they had invited
> > > > > them
> > > > > in back in '48. They want them to remain a festering wound in
> > > > >Israel's
> > > > > side.
> > > > Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> > > > accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes.
> > > > [end quote]
> > > > NOW go ahead & pretend you haven't been repeating the
> > > > lie that Israel "steals Palestinian homes"
> >
> > > Are you denying that the state of Israel ever took a home from a
> > > Palestinian?
> >
> > I have taken this apart before, but will now demolish it from a
> > different angle:
> >
> > I see you are now changing from STOLEN to TAKEN.
>
>
> If someone takes your home without permission it's called "stolen."
>
When you build something without a permit, &/or use it for criminal
activities, how is it stolen when it is YOU who have broken
the law?
>
> > As if no one can tell the difference.
>
> You really trying to make a legal argument that the homes were just
> "taken" and not "stolen?"
>
> That's pretty weak.
>
Why do you think I pointed your tactic *out*??
> > Israel has taken homes from EVERYONE who has
> > a) built them without a permit - including Israelis
>
> Why should Palestianians have to get permits from Israel to build
> homes?
>
Oh, so many answeres -where to start...?
Ok...
If you agree that they are not citizens, then you agree that Israel
does not have to ever take care of them. And yet she does.
I think that's my favorite.
There are other answers.
Like : why should so-called Palestinians be the ONLY ONES
in the ENTIRE WORLD who get to build what they want & where
they want? (Or do you pretend that even Israelis don't need
permits?)
And if, as you point out above, they aren't subject to Israeli law,
not being citizens, why should Israel have to even keep them in
her country?
>
> > b) used them for terrorism.
>
>
> Is reading a newspaper in your living room using your home for
> "terrorism?"
>
Are you seriously pretending this has ever been the case?
>
> > It is not Israel's fault is the so-called Palestinians insist on
> > being criminals.
>
>
> Your hatred of Palestianians is well known, Susan.
>
You are lying worse than ever, Duwayne.
Prove this - I dare you. No, I defy you.
And if you dredge up the lie you posted & put my name to,
you'll be confirming everything I have ever posted about you.
Please - go right ahead.
(Oh, and DODGE NOTED)
>
> > & now, to go on to my earlier answer:
> >
> > Are you trying to say that ONLY in Israel should buildings be
> > allowed to be constructed w/out legal permits?
>
> Why should Palestianians have to get permits from Israel to build
> homes?
>
See previous multiple answers.
> > That ONLY in
> > Israel should houses being used for criminal activity *not* be
> > kept from doing so?
>
>
> If someone is a criminal why don't they lock them up?
Have you ever tried to extricate a Palestinian terrorist from *anywhere*?
> Why destroy the
> home?
>
When it's being used as a way station for a tunnel?
>
> > Or are you pretending that there's ever been any other reason
> > far the charge you twist so falsely?
>
> I'm not the one pretending, Susan.
Oh, yes, you absolutely are.
It's why you have had to dodge every point put to you & lie your way around
them.
> It's clear that Israel is
> incapable of doing anything you would object to.
I'm glad that you admit it; Israel has shownherself to be remarkably
moral throughout this entire conflict.
Military experts have agreed to this - nice to see you owning up at last
>No matter what.
> Including (if they did) genocide.
>
You lie, of course.
You have no proof - and your hatred of Israel & Jews does not count as such.
> If I'm mistaken then please list a single act against the
> Palestinians, committed by Israel, that you condemn.
>
Asked & answered at least twice by now.
Stop pretending.
>
> > > In your opinion, has the state of Israel ever done anything wrong or
> > > evil toward the Palestinians?
> >
> > They have done nothing they weren't forced to do.
>
> You didn't answer the question.
Yes, I absolutely have.
And I've answered it in other posts.
As usual, you ignore what is the most uncomfortable for you.
> Why? In your opinion, has the state
> of Israel ever done anything wrong or evil toward the Palestinians?
>
When you answer any point I have raised about your lies,
I'll re-answer this one. Again.
> > > > You do it elsewhere:
> > > > [begin quote]
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> > > > From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
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No, you did, as you have every other question/point put to you.
I was clarfiying what you were saying & you knew that it couldn't
enculpate Israel, so you dodged it - as usual.
> Do you claim Israel has never bombed
> innocent civilians?
>
Do you claim that Israel has ever done so without being positively
forced to? That Israel would never do any bombing at all if there
were no terrorism, & never hit any civilians if the terrorists would
stop using them as shields & sandbags?
>
> > > > [end quote]
> > > > > You seem paranoid.
> > > > Only to pathetic bigots desperate to avoid their own hatefilled
> > > > lies.
> >
> > > You think a person is a "pathetic bigot" for advocating human
> > > rights?
> >
> > You think anyone is too stupid to understand that you are just
> > lying about Israel & not "advocating human rights?"
>
> You didn't answer the question.
As usual, it is you who is dodging.
As above, I am clarfiying just what you are asking
so that you will at least have to try even harder to
twist the facts into something anti-Israel.
> Do you think a person is a "pathetic
> bigot" for advocating human rights?
>
You were not actually doing that, so the point is moot.
> >
> > > > > <snip other quotes that are not mine>
> > > > You are such a pathetic & desperate liar.
> >
> > > Mor ad hominem
> >
> > More proven facts.
>
> Ad hominem noted.
>
Only yours, as has been shown through this thread & any other where you
post.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > All of those quotes were posts of yours & they were all discussing
> > > > Israel in
> > > > a falsely negative way.
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> > > > From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
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Gee, I guess I was waiting for you to answer this:
" > > > Still going to pretend you didn't post this, agreeing falsely that
> > > > Israel is "evil & vile", all stemming from a bigoted twisted
> > > > interpretation of what "chosen" means?"
> Are you asserting that the state of
> Israel has never done an evil thing?
I have already answered this, at least twice.
& you've lied about that, too.
> Since I asked my question first,
You lie, of course - I asked mine before (re-posted above)
& you ignored it, as always.
> answer it and then I'll answer yours.
>
You lie as always.
You have yet to answer any quetsion put to you, first, last,
unanswered or not.
> Is there a particular reason you are afraid to answer that question?
>
I am not the one who's afraid - that's you.
> > Are you asserting that Judaism
> > is are religion that really thinks Jews are superior to everyone else?
I notice you didn't answer this, even when it was repeated.
> > I
> > won't
> > ask about the other parts, because I know your negative opinion of
> > Israel,
> > falsely construed as it is.
> >
At least you didn't bother to lie about this.
> > > Do you think the state of Israel is capable of doing evil
> > > things to the Palestinians? Do you think the state of Israel is
> > > perfect?
> >
> > Do you think these strawmen will cover the fact that you have agreed
> > with
> > very bigoted statements about not just Israel, but Jews?
>
> You didn't answer the questions.
Not only have I answered them elsewhere,
I notice that you have not answered any question put to you.
> Do you think the state of Israel is
> capable of doing evil things to the Palestinians?
See multitude of previous answers.
> Do you think the
> state of Israel is perfect?
>
Do you think these strawman will do anything other than
expose your futher?
You mean like "Have you stopped fornicating with your neighbor's dog?"
Yeah, that's not a question, either.
> And your continued ad hominem is noted.
>
Only by a proven liar - you.
>
> > & you have ignored the fact that only Israel has made
> > any
> > move towards peace.
>
>
> Not at all.
Yes, you absolutely did.
If you did not, please re-post where you noted this, & I will
be the first to apologize.
> And your continued ad hominem is noted.
>
No, your lies are continuing apace.
> > > > [end quote]
> > > > Except, of course, that the entire post had been about Israel
> > > > & your false accusations of oppression & the supposed results.
> > > > > Okay, so you failed miserably to show that I've referenced the
> > > > >modern
> > > > > state of Israel in this thread as having committed genocide.
> > > > > That's
> > > > > as expected.
> > > > No, I posted proof that you have lied (& not just) about Israel &
> > > > that
> > > > you obviously meant your pathetic re-posting of the definition to
> > > > refer
> > > > to her - as exemplified by your refusal to admit that she's not
> > > > doing
> > > > it.
> >
> > > My post was the international definition of genocide.
> >
> > Your post was to obliterate the previous poster's facts about how Israel
> > was not committing it.
>
> How did posting the link to the international definition of genocide
> do that?
>
You ought to know, you're the one who did it.
The poster gave a huge list - & you snipped it, entirely, to
post your link, without acknowledging the truth.
> > > Why do you
> > > think that definition is "pathetic?"
> >
> > Why do you think that these pathetic lies will convince anyone but you?
>
> Continued ad hominem noted.
>
Only yours.
(&, as always, DODGE NOTED)
Have you stopped committing adultery?
& why did you lie about me saying what I obviously did not?
> Do you think the
> life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
>
You certainly don't.
& why did you lie about me saying what I obviously did not?
>
> > > > That was you, Susan. Not someone else.
> >
> > You lied then & you are lying now by not acknowledging it.
>
> There was a false attribution,
You lied, and twice, & this is the only time you have even
begun to acknowledge it. Sad.
> but since you have refused to clarrify
> it
Why should I dignify such a foul lie by lowering myself to even be
associated with it?
>certainly seems you think the Palestinians are unworthy of life.
Untrue, of course.
I've made it very clear that I consider even the question an insult,
& that the sentiments are entirely foreign to me.
You, OTOH, have failed to answer any questions that you, yourself,
have raised about yourself - cofnirming that all suspicions raised
are dead-on.
> You could clear it all up by simply answering this simple question: Do
> you think the life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
>
You could answer all the questions about your bigotry by answering
that same question.
> > > > It seems a truly evil and vile thing to say that a group of people
> > > > are
> > > > "unworthy of life." Tell me, do you think the little Palestinian
> > > > children are "unworthy of life?"
> >
> > > I notice that you never did answer that question.
> >
> > I notice you never did acknowledge that I never made the remarks
> > in the first place.
>
> Done long ago.
Only by me, You, OTOH, only made the casual vague
acknowledgement - without accepting guilt - just above.
> And still you refuse to answer the simple questions:
And still you lie.
I have answered it every time, making my sentiments clear.
>
> Do you think the Palestinians are worthy of life? Do you think the
> life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
>
You tell us, now.
>
> > > So, please answer
> > > it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
> > > life?
> >
> > Have you stopped beating your wife?
>
> And once again you have ignored the question.
No, liar.
You have avoided accepting guilt for falsely charging me
w/sentiments I have never hald.
> Why is it so hard for
> you to answer this simple question: Do you think the little
> Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
>
Why is it that you have to try to deman your opponents unfairly
instead of defeating them with truth & logic?
And you still didn't.
> > I notice that you have not answered any question that you
> > have raised about yourself,
>
> And still you ignore the question:
No, as always, you lie - &, DODGE NOTED.
> Do you think the little
> Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
>
Have you stopped stealing from the poor?
> > & are still pretending that you
> > had any right to even ask this disgusting question of me
> > when it is *you* who has proven yourself to be the bigot,
> > with your lies about Israel & your lies about me.
>
> Ad hominem noted
>
Only yours, all throughout this post & others.
>
> >
> > You are the one who has dodged every single point.
> > You have lied about Israel & you have lied about me -
> > and we all know why.
> >
And since you ignore this, we can all just assume it's true.
> > Susan- Hide quoted text -
> >
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>
> And still you ignore the question:
No, you ignore the fact that I caught you lying about not just Israel, but
me.
> Do you think the little
> Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
Have you stopped molesting your neighbor's kids?
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 9-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 8, 8:32 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 6, 12:07 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Mar 6, 12:06 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > > On 6-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Not limiting the discussion -- limiting my claims.
>
> > > > > > > Your claims are clear, & not just about Israel,
>
> > > > > > Actually, my claims are generic and not about Israel at all.
>
> > > > > Actually, you lie.
>
> > > > Still working on that charm?
>
> > > You are, indeed.
>
> > > > > Everything you have posted that I have quoted has to do
> > > > > solely with Israel
>
> > > > Really?
>
> > > Absolutely, It's obvious to anyone following your posts.
>
> > > > Well, here is one of things I said, that you quoted. Find
> > > > the word "Israel" in it:
>
> > > Just because you snipped the context -
>
> > No. I snipped nothing.
>
> Then why didn't you reply to any of it?
I did. Why don't you post the part you think I didn't reply to?
And why won't you answer this simple question: Question: Do you
think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
I've asked you several times, and you act like you think it's a trick
question, or something.
> Every single time one of the lies you told, or the lies to which
> you agreed was posted, you dodged it with a question - always
> one where you twisted words that were posted before (such as
> turning "Stealing" into "taking"), or, even more egregiously,
> where you *assigned* me a disgusting position (about children)
> & then demanded that I answer to it, as if you had any right
> to do that, based on your posts *or* mine.
Ad hominem noted
>
> > You posted the following sentence as an
> > example of "hatred" of Israel.
>
> Yes, because they were in agreement to other lies about Israel.
What lies about Israel am I in agreement with? Be specific and prove
they are lies.
>
> > Find the word "Israel" in the
> > sentence.
>
> If you can't be an adult & admit to what you were replying to,
Okay. So you still can't find the word "Israel" in my statement. Now
try to find the hatred in it:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
> I will be happy to go back through all the posts *again* &
> post the posts to which you were replying.
Ad hominem noted.
>
> > Point to the specific phrase that you think expresses
> > "hate."
>
> Again? Ok - even if it's only to show everyone how you dodge
> your hatred & lies.
>
> > "Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> > percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
> > kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> > for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> > way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
> > [Duwayne Anderson]
>
> There were a multitude of hateful lies in this post of yours:
Find the hate in that statement of mine. Here it is again:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
>
> You can pretend that because you did not mention Israel
> *outright* in this particular post that you somehow escape the
> truth,
Find the word "Israel" in that statement. Show that even if it *did*
mention Israel it demonstrates "hate" of Israel.
> but since the post was in answer to someone lying about
> Israel & you agreeing to it, that makes you just as culpable.
Exactly what lie? Be specific and prove it was a lie.
>
> This is where you lied about Israel removing people from their
> homes when she had not,
If I'd said *that* then you would have posted a statement from me with
the word "Israel" in it. Instead, though, you posted this statement
by me:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the word "Israel" in that statement. Find the "hate" in that
statement.
> lied about indiscriminate bombings
> of anyone, much less civilians,
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
> & further pretended that it
> had been done out of revenge. Nothing could be further form
> the truth.
Don't you think you might be an embarrassment to Israel.
>
> > > the fact that in
> > > every post you are agreeing to someone lying about Israel
>
> > Susan, you are a fanatic.
>
> Dodge noted.
> I corner you in a lie & you throw out another one instead of either
> trying to refute the lie, or at least confessing to the truth.
> You are a sad liar, & & a hypocritical one.
> You have been screeching about "ad hominem" and yet you
> are the one who is indulging in it.
Ad hominem noted
>
> > In your mind anyone that is the least
> > critical of anything Israel does "hates" her.
>
> A lie. Everyone who flat-out lies about her in horrendous ways
> is not being "in the least critical".
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
> When you lie about something the way you do, over & over,
> & refuse to even acknowledge it, that's hatred.
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
>
> > > & capping it with a lie of your own, doesn't mean you
> > > *didn't* lie about Israel.
>
> > Point out the "lie" about Israel in my quote below:
>
> AGAIN? Are you really this dense?
Ad hominem noted.
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
>
> Okay---
>
> > > > "Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes
Find the word "Israel" in that statement.
> #1) Israel has never done this in the manner you allege here
> in agreeing to someone falsely describing Israel's behavior
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
> > Indiscriminate bombing
Find the word "Israel" in that statement.
> Israel has never done this, either.
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
>
> > that
> > > > kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> > > > for an eye and a tooth for a tooth"
>
> & Israel hasn't done this.
Find the word "Israel" in my statement.
> And "eye for an eye" would have
> meant that Israel would have openly pledged herself to the
> destruction of those openly pledged to destroy her, & they
> would have been gone by now.
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
> > > >seems to be a particularly good
> > > > way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
> > > > [Duwayne Anderson]
>
> > > As I said above: the thread was about Israel, someone was
> > > lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post.
>
> > Still waiting for you to demonstrate how that quote shows "hatred"
> > toward Israel.
>
> What part of
>
> " the thread was about Israel, someone was
>
> > > lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post"
>
> do you not get? Or do you think anyone else could possibly have missed?
Still waiting, Susan. Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
>
> > > > Here's another of my quotes that you've used. Find the word "Israel"
> > > > in it, too:
>
> > > > "Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> > > > accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes." [Duwayne
> > > > Anderson]
>
> > > See previous statements: you were agreeing with yet another liar about
> > > Israel.
>
> > Still waiting for you to demonstrate how that quote shows "hatred"
> > toward Israel.
>
> What part of
>
> " the thread was about Israel, someone was
>
> > > lying about Israel, & you agreed with him with this post"
That's not what I said. I said this:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
>
> do you not get? Or do you think anyone else could possibly
> have missed?
>
> (But it's nice to see that, once again, you have nothing but
> "cut-n-paste" to use as a shield against the truth that harms
> you so much)
Ad hominem noted
>
>
>
> > > > The fact is these are generic statements.
>
> > > The fact is that you made them in a false context: about Israel.
>
> > They were made in the context of the way the United States treated
> > Native Americans. But even if they *were* made in the context of
> > Israel, how do they demonstrate hatred of Israel?
>
> Because, as I have pointed out over & over, Israel has not done
> the things you lied about her doing.
? You just admitted I was talking about the Native Americans. Okay.
So you lied when you said I was talking about Israel. At least you're
big enough to admit it.
Thanks.
>
> > > > It reflects poorly on
> > > > Israel, I think, when her apologists seem so insulted by such
> > > > humanitarian statements.
>
> > > It reflects poorly on you that you not only think that lies
>
> > Do you think you advance the cause of the state of Israel by being a
> > fanatic?
>
> Dodge noted
You didn't answer the question. Do you think you advance the cause of
the state of Israel by being a fanatic?
> - once again, when cornered about your lies
> about Israel, you assign me a false position & demand I
> answer it, instead of even acknowledging that you were
> caught, flat-footed.
>
Ad hominem noted
> > > reflect poorly on anyone except those who tell them, &
> > > that anyone who insists on telling the truth is an "aplologist"
>
> > > > > - or the one person who has insisted on
> > > > > challenging you on your lies.
>
> > > > Still working on that charm?
>
> > > You leave me no choice.
>
> > You have no free agency?
>
> I understand fully how the truth means nothing to you.
Ad hominem noted. And, also noted, you didn't answer the question:
Don't you have free agency?
> Honest & decent people, however are not like that.
Ad hominem noted
>
>
>
> > > > I notice that the rest of your post is just a reposting of your ad
> > > > hominem argument
>
> > > I notice that every post of yours contains the lie that this is
> > > an ad hominem argument,
>
> > Since my original post was about the international definition of
> > genocide
>
> As has been pointed out every time you drag out this lame
> dodge,
Anyone can verify it. Why does the international definition of
genocide cause you so much trouble?
> you started your postings about Israel with a slew of
> lies about her.
What "lie?" Be specific and prove it was a lie.
> When confronted with the proof that Israel was
> not committing genocide in this thread,
I never accused Israel of committing genocide. Go ahead ... find a
quote of me saying "Israel committed genocide." You can't do it.
> you snipped that proof,
What proof? It's the same lame stuff you've been posting over and
over again -- and every point (as in this post) responded to.
Meanwhile you can't answer this simple question:
Find the word "Israel" in this statement:
"Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[Duwayne Anderson]
Find the "hate" in that statement.
> and posted a cut-n-paste that not only does not inculpate her,
> it exculpates her - which you refused to acknowledge.
Why should I refuse to do that?
>
> Are you really so stupid
Ad hominem noted.
> that you didn't think I would check
> on what else you had to say after your attempts to try to
> smear Israel in an indirect way? I smelled a rat & your
> other posts proved you were one.
You are a fanatic, Susan. You think everyone is out to get you and to
get Israel.
>
> When confronted with this truth, with your actions, and a
> challenge to admit the truth, you proceeded to lie about your
> actions, snip all the evidence of your actions, and lie further -
> not just about Israel, but about me & everything that I have said.
You are not a victim, Susan.
>
> > and since we are now discussing me
>
> We were always discussing you.
In your ad hominem world, yes. That's what makes your argument ad
hominem. The post started out about the definition of genocide, and
you immediately turned it into a thread about me.
That's what an ad hominem argument is.
> I have not bothered with anything else because I hate lies.
Then stop looking in the mirror.
>
> > instead of the
> > international definition of genocide your arguments have been ad
> > hominem to the max.
>
> Since you pretend to have been discussing "only" genocide,
> and I have never pretended to be discussing only that, it is
> obviously *only your* arguments that have been ad hominem
And you are still talking about me. Ad hominem noted.
>
> > > as well as a pathetic dodge of
> > > every lie you have told.
>
> > I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you.
>
> Dodge noted. & yet another lie thrown out instead of answering
> for your actions.
> BTW, this is the 2nd lamest dodge of all Jew-haters: just after the
> blood libel & the dual loyalty crap. Just so you know.
And you are still talking about me. Ad hominem noted.
>
> > You give
> > Israel a bad name.
>
> Only among those who want to see her roll over & die in
> the face of all hatred such as yours.
Still trying to give Israel a bad name?
> I *live* to giver her
> *that* sort of "bad name [sic]."
The world will never know peace with fanaticism like that.
>
> You, OTOH, are determined to actually give her a bad
> name - this is why you lie about me when I point out your
> lies about her - none of which you can answer, or ever will,
> because you know you cannot.
Ad hominem noted.
>
> > > Not one point have you *answered*,
> > > except with a pretense that you somehow get to ask
> > > questions instead of explain your lie.
>
> > I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> > Israel a bad name.
>
> ROTFLOL!!
> As if we needed any further evidence as to just how desperate
> you are!
> You lie, I caught you & this is not only all you can come up with,
> you actually have to repeat it! & yet you actually "think" no one
> can see how lame you are!!
Ad hominem noted
>
> Let's see if you'll do it again----
>
> > > > and where you systematically snip the replies
>
> > > And this is yet another lie.
>
> > I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> > Israel a bad name.
>
> Oh, wow - you DO!
>
> And it's really simpe cut-n-paste, because you have the same
> typo in each section!!!
> LOLHMSWTIME!!!
Ad hominem noted
>
> > > Not one post where you actually pretend to answer anything
> > > did I snip.
>
> > I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> > Israel a bad name.
>
> TOO FUNNY!!!
> What a loser you are!
Ad hominem noted
>
> > > I have - NOW that you've finally deigned to pretend
> > > you're even answering anything - pointed out that you aren't
> > > answering anything.
>
> > > > and just repost the same
> > > > stuff. Here are the comments I've made before -- do try to deal with
> > > > them this time.
>
> > > I have - do you want me to show just how pathetic you are yet AGAIN?
>
> > I think true Isralie patriots cringe at defenders like you. You give
> > Israel a bad name.
>
> OMG - how many times is it now, 5? 6??
> Gee, if you can't even answer points raised from your own posts,
> you should give up Usenet.
Ad hominem noted
>
> > > > > Path:
>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com!not-for¬¬-mail
What was the answer?
> The answer is above. Why did you lie about that, too?
You answered a different question. I'd like the answer to this one:
"Why do you think Palestinians live in Gaza?"
>
> > > > > > And I do have to say, upon further reflection, that I simplified
> > > > > > matters.
> > > > > > Many of them cannot move out because the other Arab nations will
> > > > > > not take them unless forced to (such as in the case of those who
> > > > > >are
> > > > > > actually citizens of other countries) - even tho' they had invited
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > in back in '48. They want them to remain a festering wound in
> > > > > >Israel's
> > > > > > side.
> > > > > Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
> > > > > accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes.
> > > > > [end quote]
> > > > > NOW go ahead & pretend you haven't been repeating the
> > > > > lie that Israel "steals Palestinian homes"
>
> > > > Are you denying that the state of Israel ever took a home from a
> > > > Palestinian?
>
> > > I have taken this apart before, but will now demolish it from a
> > > different angle:
>
> > > I see you are now changing from STOLEN to TAKEN.
>
> > If someone takes your home without permission it's called "stolen."
>
> When you build something without a permit,
You haven't proven that. And you didn't explain why the Palestinians
should have to get permits from Israel in the first place.
> &/or use it for criminal
> activities, how is it stolen when it is YOU who have broken
> the law?
You haven't proven that every house destroyed was used for criminal
activities.
>
> > > As if no one can tell the difference.
>
> > You really trying to make a legal argument that the homes were just
> > "taken" and not "stolen?"
>
> > That's pretty weak.
>
> Why do you think I pointed your tactic *out*??
You didn't answer the question. Are you really trying to make a legal
argument that the homes were just "taken" and not "stolen?"
That's pretty weak.
>
> > > Israel has taken homes from EVERYONE who has
> > > a) built them without a permit - including Israelis
>
> > Why should Palestianians have to get permits from Israel to build
> > homes?
>
> Oh, so many answeres -where to start...?
>
> Ok...
>
> If you agree that they are not citizens,
Why should they have to be citizens of Israel?
> then you agree that Israel
> does not have to ever take care of them. And yet she does.
Why does Israel need to take care of them? Is Israel taking care of
the French? The Germans? Why should they need to take care of the
Palestinians?
> I think that's my favorite.
Then you should have no difficulty answering the questions I posted
above.
> There are other answers.
>
> Like : why should so-called Palestinians be the ONLY ONES
> in the ENTIRE WORLD who get to build what they want & where
> they want? (Or do you pretend that even Israelis don't need
> permits?)
Why should they have to get permits from Israel? Why can't they get
the permits from the state of Palestine?
> And if, as you point out above, they aren't subject to Israeli law,
Why should they be subject to Israeli law? Are the French subject to
Israeli law? Are the Germans subject to Israeli law? Who decided
that Israel has the right to govern the Palestinians?
> not being citizens, why should Israel have to even keep them in
> her country?
How about Palestinians that don't live within the borders of Israel as
established by the UN when the state of Israel was formed?
>
> > > b) used them for terrorism.
>
> > Is reading a newspaper in your living room using your home for
> > "terrorism?"
>
> Are you seriously pretending this has ever been the case?
Not at all. I'm not the fanatic here, Susan. You are. I have no
difficulty condemning the atrocities of Palestinian terrorists. I
have no difficulty agreeing with the idea that some Palestinians kill
some Israelis.
But won't even answer this simple question: Do you believe that
little Palestinian children have the right to live?
In fact, you won't (and haven't) listed a single atrocity that Israel
has committed against the Palestinians. In short, you seem to think
the Palestinians are pure evil and don't deserve to live, and that
Israel is a perfect state that has never done anything wrong.
>
> > > It is not Israel's fault is the so-called Palestinians insist on
> > > being criminals.
>
> > Your hatred of Palestianians is well known, Susan.
>
> You are lying worse than ever, Duwayne.
Then answer this question you have refused to answer in the past: Do
you believe that little Palestinian children have the right to live?
> Prove this - I dare you.
Your refusal (in this very post, no less) to answer this simple
question: Do you believe that little Palestinian children have the
right to live?
> No, I defy you.
Your refusal (in this very post, no less) to answer this simple
question: Do you believe that little Palestinian children have the
right to live?
> And if you dredge up the lie you posted & put my name to,
> you'll be confirming everything I have ever posted about you.
> Please - go right ahead.
Here's your chance to set the record straight: Do you believe that
little Palestinian children have the right to live?
You've refused to answer before (at the end of this post to which I'm
replying, for example). Why would you do that? I'm sure you would
have no difficulty answering the question if the words "Palestinian
children" were replaced with "Israeli children."
> (Oh, and DODGE NOTED)
>
>
>
> > > & now, to go on to my earlier answer:
>
> > > Are you trying to say that ONLY in Israel should buildings be
> > > allowed to be constructed w/out legal permits?
>
> > Why should Palestianians have to get permits from Israel to build
> > homes?
>
> See previous multiple answers.
See comments and additional questions.
>
> > > That ONLY in
> > > Israel should houses being used for criminal activity *not* be
> > > kept from doing so?
>
> > If someone is a criminal why don't they lock them up?
>
> Have you ever tried to extricate a Palestinian terrorist from *anywhere*?
You think the only way for Israel to kill terrorists is to blow up
houses? Even if the houses have little kids in them?
>
> > Why destroy the
> > home?
>
> When it's being used as a way station for a tunnel?
Has every house Israel has destroyed been used that way?
>
>
>
> > > Or are you pretending that there's ever been any other reason
> > > far the charge you twist so falsely?
>
> > I'm not the one pretending, Susan.
>
> Oh, yes, you absolutely are.
> It's why you have had to dodge every point put to you & lie your way around
> them.
Ad hominem noted
>
> > It's clear that Israel is
> > incapable of doing anything you would object to.
>
> I'm glad that you admit it;
Actually, I'm glad *you* admit it. You just agreed that you will
agree a priori with anything Israel does. You are a fanatic.
> Israel has shownherself to be remarkably
> moral throughout this entire conflict.
> Military experts have agreed to this - nice to see you owning up at last
You need to read what I wrote again.
>
> >No matter what.
> > Including (if they did) genocide.
>
> You lie, of course.
> You have no proof - and your hatred of Israel & Jews does not count as such.
You just admitted that you would never object to anything Israel
does.
>
> > If I'm mistaken then please list a single act against the
> > Palestinians, committed by Israel, that you condemn.
>
> Asked & answered at least twice by now.
What was the answer (hint: It's not in the string above).
> Stop pretending.
People that really do "answer" don't need to pretend they did -- they
just repeat the answer.
Question: Is there a single act against the Palestinians, committed
by Israel, that you condem? If so, what?
>
>
>
> > > > In your opinion, has the state of Israel ever done anything wrong or
> > > > evil toward the Palestinians?
>
> > > They have done nothing they weren't forced to do.
>
> > You didn't answer the question.
>
> Yes, I absolutely have.
No, you haven't answered the question. The question is: In your
opinion, has the state of Israel ever done anything wrong or evil
toward the Palestinians?
> And I've answered it in other posts.
What was the answer?
> As usual, you ignore what is the most uncomfortable for you.
Ad hominem noted. What was the answer?
>
> > Why? In your opinion, has the state
> > of Israel ever done anything wrong or evil toward the Palestinians?
>
> When you answer any point I have raised about your lies,
Ad hominem noted.
> I'll re-answer this one. Again.
Your refusal is all the proof needed that you didn't answer the
question.
>
> > > > > You do it elsewhere:
> > > > > [begin quote]
> > > > > Path:
>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!x8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com!not-for-¬¬mail
> > > > > From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> > > > > Newsgroups:
>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.mormon,soc.culture.israel,alt.atheism,a¬¬lt.religion.islam
It's my question to you, Susan. So I can't ignore it. Here it is
again: Do you claim that the terrorists don't force Israel to use
Palestinians as shields?
> as you have every other question/point put to you.
> I was clarfiying what you were saying & you knew that it couldn't
> enculpate Israel, so you dodged it - as usual.
>
> > Do you claim Israel has never bombed
> > innocent civilians?
You ignored the question again: Do you claim Israel has never bombed
innocent civilians?
>
> Do you claim that Israel has ever done so without being positively
> forced to?
Every time? No. Often? Yes.
> That Israel would never do any bombing at all if there
> were no terrorism, & never hit any civilians if the terrorists would
> stop using them as shields & sandbags?
I don't think Israel would bomb peaceful people, but I think the
Palestinians would be peaceful if Israel was honest and fair with
them.
See how easy it is to answer questions? Unless you are a fanatic, of
course.
Here's a question for you, Susan. Do you think little Palestinian
children deserve to live?
>
>
>
> > > > > [end quote]
> > > > > > You seem paranoid.
> > > > > Only to pathetic bigots desperate to avoid their own hatefilled
> > > > > lies.
>
> > > > You think a person is a "pathetic bigot" for advocating human
> > > > rights?
>
> > > You think anyone is too stupid to understand that you are just
> > > lying about Israel & not "advocating human rights?"
>
> > You didn't answer the question.
>
> As usual, it is you who is dodging.
You didn't answer the question, Susan. Do you think a person is a
pathetic bigot for advocating human rights?
> As above, I am clarfiying just what you are asking
> so that you will at least have to try even harder to
> twist the facts into something anti-Israel.
>
> > Do you think a person is a "pathetic
> > bigot" for advocating human rights?
>
> You were not actually doing that, so the point is moot.
You didn't answer the question: Do you think a person is a pathetic
bigot for advocating human rights?
>
> > > > > > <snip other quotes that are not mine>
> > > > > You are such a pathetic & desperate liar.
>
> > > > Mor ad hominem
>
> > > More proven facts.
>
> > Ad hominem noted.
>
> Only yours, as has been shown through this thread & any other where you
> post.
Ad hominem noted
>
>
>
> > > > > All of those quotes were posts of yours & they were all discussing
> > > > > Israel in
> > > > > a falsely negative way.
> > > > > [begin quote]
> > > > > Path:
>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com!not-for-¬¬mail
> > > > > From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> > > > > Newsgroups:
>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>alt.religion.mormon,alt.atheism,alt.politics,soc.culture.jewish,alt.religio¬¬n
You are still ignoring the question: Are you asserting that the state
of Israel has never done an evil thing?
>
> " > > > Still going to pretend you didn't post this, agreeing falsely that
>
> > > > > Israel is "evil & vile", all stemming from a bigoted twisted
> > > > > interpretation of what "chosen" means?"
> > Are you asserting that the state of
> > Israel has never done an evil thing?
>
> I have already answered this, at least twice.
> & you've lied about that, too.
What was the answer? Are you asserting thatt the state of Israel has
never done an evil thing?
>
> > Since I asked my question first,
>
> You lie, of course - I asked mine before (re-posted above)
> & you ignored it, as always.
>
> > answer it and then I'll answer yours.
>
> You lie as always.
Ad hominem noted
> You have yet to answer any quetsion put to you, first, last,
> unanswered or not.
>
> > Is there a particular reason you are afraid to answer that question?
>
> I am not the one who's afraid - that's you.
>
> > > Are you asserting that Judaism
> > > is are religion that really thinks Jews are superior to everyone else?
>
> I notice you didn't answer this, even when it was repeated.
Of course I answered it. And the answer is (assuming we're not
talking about secular Jews), "not superior, but chosen. Would you
like to see the verse?"
See? When you really do answer a question you are not afraid to
repeat the answer -- you don't need to offer lame excuses like "asked
and answered."
>
> > > I
> > > won't
> > > ask about the other parts, because I know your negative opinion of
> > > Israel,
> > > falsely construed as it is.
>
> At least you didn't bother to lie about this.
>
> > > > Do you think the state of Israel is capable of doing evil
> > > > things to the Palestinians? Do you think the state of Israel is
> > > > perfect?
>
> > > Do you think these strawmen will cover the fact that you have agreed
> > > with
> > > very bigoted statements about not just Israel, but Jews?
>
> > You didn't answer the questions.
>
> Not only have I answered them elsewhere,
There you go again, asserting that you answered the question. Well,
what was the answer? Do you think the state of Israel is capable of
doing evil things to the Palestinians? Do you think the state of
Israel is perfect?
> I notice that you have not answered any question put to you.
>
> > Do you think the state of Israel is
> > capable of doing evil things to the Palestinians?
>
> See multitude of previous answers.
There you go again, asserting that you answered the question. Well,
what was the answer? Do you think the state of Israel is capable of
doing evil things to the Palestinians? Do you think the state of
Israel is perfect?
>
> > Do you think the
> > state of Israel is perfect?
>
> Do you think these strawman will do anything other than
> expose your futher?
Why is that question so difficult for you? Do you think the state of
Israel is capable of doing evil things to the Palestinians? Do you
think the state of Israel is perfect?
>
>
>
No, that wasn't the question you ignored. The question was "How does
that citation support your "hates Israel" ad hominem argument?"
> Yeah, that's not a question, either.
>
> > And your continued ad hominem is noted.
>
> Only by a proven liar - you.
Ad hominem noted
>
>
>
> > > & you have ignored the fact that only Israel has made
> > > any
> > > move towards peace.
>
> > Not at all.
>
> Yes, you absolutely did.
No, I think Israel has done a lot of things for peace. See, I can say
good things about Israel because I don't hate Israel. But I can also
say good things about Palestinians because I don't hate them either.
How about you? Do you think little Palestinian children have the
right to live?
Do you think the Palestinian people have done anything to help the
peace process? I do. Can you at least admit they are people that
have human rights? How deeply does your hatred go?
> If you did not, please re-post where you noted this, & I will
> be the first to apologize.
See above. And, of course, you will never apologize.
But do you think little Palestinian children have the right to live?
>
> > And your continued ad hominem is noted.
>
> No, your lies are continuing apace.
Ad hominem noted
>
> > > > > [end quote]
> > > > > Except, of course, that the entire post had been about Israel
> > > > > & your false accusations of oppression & the supposed results.
> > > > > > Okay, so you failed miserably to show that I've referenced the
> > > > > >modern
> > > > > > state of Israel in this thread as having committed genocide.
> > > > > > That's
> > > > > > as expected.
> > > > > No, I posted proof that you have lied (& not just) about Israel &
> > > > > that
> > > > > you obviously meant your pathetic re-posting of the definition to
> > > > > refer
> > > > > to her - as exemplified by your refusal to admit that she's not
> > > > > doing
> > > > > it.
>
> > > > My post was the international definition of genocide.
>
> > > Your post was to obliterate the previous poster's facts about how Israel
> > > was not committing it.
>
> > How did posting the link to the international definition of genocide
> > do that?
>
> You ought to know, you're the one who did it.
You ignored the question. How did posting the link to the
international definition of genocide obliterate a posters facts about
Israel?"
You ignored the question (again). Do you think it's a trick
question? Really, we'd all like to know: Do you think the
Palestinians are worthy of life?
> & why did you lie about me saying what I obviously did not?
>
> > Do you think the
> > life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
>
> You certainly don't.
I think the life of a Palestinian is eactly worth the same amount as
the life of a Jew.
Do you? Do you agree that the life of a Palestinian is worth the
exact same amount as that of a Jew?
>
> & why did you lie about me saying what I obviously did not?
>
>
>
> > > > > That was you, Susan. Not someone else.
>
> > > You lied then & you are lying now by not acknowledging it.
>
> > There was a false attribution,
>
> You lied, and twice, & this is the only time you have even
> begun to acknowledge it. Sad.
If it was a lie you wouldn't refuse to answer this question: Do you
think the Palestinians are worthy of life?
>
> > but since you have refused to clarrify
> > it
>
> Why should I dignify such a foul lie by lowering myself to even be
> associated with it?
>
> >certainly seems you think the Palestinians are unworthy of life.
>
> Untrue, of course.
> I've made it very clear that I consider even the question an insult,
Then you should answer it. Do you think the Palestinians are worthy
of life? I certainly do. And I think the Jews are worthy of life. I
think the life of a Jew is worth exactly the same as the life of a
Palestinian.
Won't you agree with me on this point?
> & that the sentiments are entirely foreign to me.
> You, OTOH, have failed to answer any questions that you, yourself,
> have raised about yourself - cofnirming that all suspicions raised
> are dead-on.
>
> > You could clear it all up by simply answering this simple question: Do
> > you think the life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
>
> You could answer all the questions about your bigotry by answering
> that same question.
I think the Jews are worthy of life. I think the life of a Jew is
worth exactly the same as the life of a Palestinian.
Won't you agree with me on this point?
>
> > > > > It seems a truly evil and vile thing to say that a group of people
> > > > > are
> > > > > "unworthy of life." Tell me, do you think the little Palestinian
> > > > > children are "unworthy of life?"
>
> > > > I notice that you never did answer that question.
>
> > > I notice you never did acknowledge that I never made the remarks
> > > in the first place.
>
> > Done long ago.
>
> Only by me, You, OTOH, only made the casual vague
> acknowledgement - without accepting guilt - just above.
>
> > And still you refuse to answer the simple questions:
>
> And still you lie.
> I have answered it every time,
What was the answer? I think the life of a Jew is worth exactly the
same as the life of a Palestinian.
Won't you agree with me on this point?
> making my sentiments clear.
>
>
>
> > Do you think the Palestinians are worthy of life? Do you think the
> > life of a Palestinian is worth the same as a Jew?
>
> You tell us, now.
Why do you try so hard to escape that question? I think the Jews are
worthy of life. I think the life of a Jew is worth exactly the same
as the life of a Palestinian.
Won't you agree with me on this point?
>
> > > > So, please answer
> > > > it. Do you think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of
> > > > life?
>
> > > Have you stopped beating your wife?
>
> > And once again you have ignored the question.
>
> No, liar.
Then what was the answer? Do you think the Palestinians are worthy of
life?
You ignored the question. Do you think it's a trick question? Do you
think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
>
> > > & are still pretending that you
> > > had any right to even ask this disgusting question of me
> > > when it is *you* who has proven yourself to be the bigot,
> > > with your lies about Israel & your lies about me.
>
> > Ad hominem noted
>
> Only yours, all throughout this post & others.
>
> > > You are the one who has dodged every single point.
> > > You have lied about Israel & you have lied about me -
> > > and we all know why.
>
> And since you ignore this, we can all just assume it's true.
>
> > > Susan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > And still you ignore the question:
>
> No, you ignore the fact that I caught you lying about not just Israel, but
> me.
>
> > Do you think the little
> > Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
>
> Have you stopped molesting your neighbor's kids?
You ignored the question. Do you think the little Palestinian
children are unworthy of life?
>
> Susan
fla...@verizon.net
Why won't you? Why won't you answer any of the questions
ever put to you?
Why do you lie about Israel? Why do you lie that she
"indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
agreeing with those who say she is?
Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
so-called Palestinians?
Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
> Question: Do you
> think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
>
Why do you lie about my not having answered this question?
What part of "not deign to dignify the foul position falsely
assigned to me by you" do you not understand?
Let me explain a little further, just to rub your nsoe in it:
For me to dignify answering this false position that you
mendaciously assigned to me - that of *not* thinking
*any* innocent party has the right to live - would be to
actually lend credence to said false position.
Therefore, no simple answer to such a "question" (which
we all know is not a question at all but a sick accusation
from an even sicker bigot) will do. I utterly repudiate not
just the entire notion you so disgustingly lied about my
holding, but your right to even ask me about it, *especially*
since it was you who fabricated it out of your own bigotry
in the first place.
Still going to pretend that I didn;t answer your lies?
Now - *you* can answer for your own lies - for once -
go ahead, I'll *still* wait.
> I've asked you several times, and you act like you think it's a trick
> question, or something.
Why do you lie about this being a simple question when it's
obvious what lie you *(have been" telling about me, & what lie
you still insist on trying to tell about me, even in the face of the
proof that it was your lie in the first place?
Why do you think this new & still pathetic dodge will serve any
better than all the other pathetic dodges you have employed thus
far to escape your obvious lies & hatred?
Susan
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Shut up, cohen. You're slavering.
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Shut up cohen. You're slavering.
Duwaynea Anderson
I believe Jews and Palestinians (and all other people, too) have human
rights, including the right to live.
So why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of view?
Why are you still refusing to give the simple answer to the simple
question: Do you believe that Palestinians are worthy to live?
> Why won't you answer any of the questions
> ever put to you?
What would those be?
> Why do you lie about Israel?
What "lies?" Be specific and prove they were lies.
> Why do you lie that she
> "indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
Have you proven that Israel never bombs civilians? No, I don't think
you have.
> Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
> agreeing with those who say she is?
I posted the definition of genocide. Do you think Israel is in
violation of that definition?
> Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
> so-called Palestinians?
I didn't say that Israel did that. But your comments would lead folks
to the conclusion that you not only don't think the Palestinians are
worth to live, you wouldn't even grant them the right to live in their
homes.
> Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
I've never called Judaism "vile." Do you think it is vile?
> > Question: Do you
> > think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
>
> Why do you lie about my not having answered this question?
Are you saying you did answer the question? Okay, what was the
answer?
> What part of "not deign to dignify the foul position falsely
> assigned to me by you" do you not understand?
Okay, now you seem to be admitting you didn't answer the question.
Why? Why won't you say "yes" to this simple question: Are the
Palestinians worthy to live?
>
> Let me explain a little further, just to rub your nsoe in it:
>
> For me to dignify answering this false position that you
It's a questiton. It doesn't become your postion until you make it
your position by refusing to answer it.
Once more: Why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of
view? Why are you still refusing to give the simple answer to the
simple question: Do you believe that Palestinians are worthy to live?
> mendaciously assigned to me - that of *not* thinking
> *any* innocent party has the right to live - would be to
> actually lend credence to said false position.
It's a questiton. It doesn't become your postion until you make it
your position by refusing to answer it.
Once more: Why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of
view? Why are you still refusing to give the simple answer to the
simple question: Do you believe that Palestinians are worthy to live?
> Therefore, no simple answer to such a "question"
Of course there is. The simpel answer is "yes."
It's only a difficult question if you do *not* think that Palestinians
have the right to live. It's only a difficult question is you think
Israel has the right to commit genocide.
And apparently you do, which is why you got so worked up when I posted
the link to the international definition of genocide.
> (which
> we all know is not a question at all but a sick accusation
> from an even sicker bigot) will do.
Of course it's a question -- and a very simple one at that: Do you
believe that Palestinians have the right to live?
The simple answer is "yes." But you won't say it. Why?
> I utterly repudiate not
> just the entire notion you so disgustingly lied about my
> holding, but your right to even ask me about it, *especially*
> since it was you who fabricated it out of your own bigotry
> in the first place.
It's a very simple question: Do you believe that Palestinians have the
right to live?
The simple answer is "yes." But you won't say it. Why?
>
> Still going to pretend that I didn;t answer your lies?
No lies, just a simple questiton: Do you think the Palestinians are
worthy to live.
And you haven't answered the question -- you just tried to explain why
you are not going to answer it. But your explanation won't wash.
There is no moral/ethical reason for anyone to not answer that simple
question. It's only a difficult question if you do *not* think that
Palestinians have the right to live. It's only a difficult question
is you think Israel has the right to commit genocide.
And apparently you do, which is why you got so worked up when I posted
the link to the international definition of genocide.
> Now - *you* can answer for your own lies - for once -
> go ahead, I'll *still* wait.
>
> > I've asked you several times, and you act like you think it's a trick
> > question, or something.
>
> Why do you lie about this being a simple question
It is a simple question, Susan. At least, for anyone that is not a
genocidal fanatic.
> when it's
> obvious what lie you *(have been" telling about me, & what lie
> you still insist on trying to tell about me, even in the face of the
> proof that it was your lie in the first place?
>
> Why do you think this new & still pathetic dodge will serve any
> better than all the other pathetic dodges you have employed thus
> far to escape your obvious lies & hatred?
It's not "hatred" to ask you if you think the Palestinians are worthy
to live. It reflects "hatred," though, when you refuse to answer such
a simple question.
Hatred of the Palestinians, that is. I think it's a shame you feel
that way about them. I don't think there will ever be peace in the
Middle East as long as such hatred exists.
fla...@verizon.net
Because every time I do, you snip it, ignore it & lie - like now.
> > > And why won't you answer this simple question:
> >
> > Why won't you?
>
> I believe Jews and Palestinians (and all other people, too) have human
> rights, including the right to live.
Which is not the question I was asking - I was asking why
you lie about Israel, & about Judaism. You refuse to
address any of the lies you have told:
Why do you lie about Israel? Why do you lie that she
"indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
agreeing with those who say she is?
Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
so-called Palestinians?
Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
> So why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of view?
Why why do you continue to lie about me in this fashion?
Why are you so desperate to assign me such a false position
and then pretend that I not only have to answer to you in any way
about it, but that I actually agree with the false assignment?
On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why won't you answer any of the questions
> > ever put to you?
>
> What would those be?
The lies I mention above - the lies you ignored in all the
previous posts where I have pointed them out.
> > Why do you lie about Israel?
>
> What "lies?"
The lies I mention above - the lies you ignored in all the
previous posts where I have pointed them out.
> Be specific
Ok, I'll just repost them:
Why do you lie that she
"indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
agreeing with those who say she is?
Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
so-called Palestinians?
Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
> and prove they were lies.
No, liar. That's not how things work.
When yo umake statements, you have to prove they are true.
People do not have to go around disproving your lies.
You lied, I called you on it, many times, & you have ducked, every time.
> > Why do you lie that she
> > "indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
>
> Have you proven that Israel never bombs civilians?
Have you ever taken reading comprehension lessons, or do you imagine no one
else has?
The lie you told, which you are ignoring, is that
"Israel INDISCRIMINATELY bombs civilians."
(Emphasis added; hopefully you will not be *such* a liar
that you will pretend this is the same as "bombs civilians")
For you to address this lie, you have to defend it - not
change the subject & then pretend that I have to disprove
something that was never in contention. Rather like when
you falsely accused me of saying Palestinians did not have
the right to live & then insisted that I had to answer that.
> No, I don't think
> you have.
Nor did I have to, It is for you to defend you lie, not change
it & then pretend I have to disprove it.
> > Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
> > agreeing with those who say she is?
>
> I posted the definition of genocide.
When you *weren't* agreeing with people who said
she *was* committing genocide, you were doing that *too*.
Now, why do you lie abnotu Israel committing genocide?
> Do you think Israel is in
> violation of that definition?
Immaterial, non-responsive & very telling.
Now answer the question.
>
> > Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
> > so-called Palestinians?
>
> I didn't say that Israel did that.
Yes, you absolutely did, by agreeing to another liar who said she was.
> But your comments would lead folks
> to the conclusion that you not only don't think the Palestinians are
> worth to live,
This is yet another lie in your continuing calvacade of lies -
& it's the one you always trot out when you are backed into the tightest
corner.
> you wouldn't even grant them the right to live in their
> homes.
And this is another lie - I have never said anything of the sort.
You were the one who said Israel was stealing homes, &
when taxed with this lie, you tried to change it to "taking" homes,
as if the so-called Palestinians had never done anything to have
a building demolished.
> > Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
>
> I've never called Judaism "vile."
You lie. You agreed flat-out with another bigot who said it was vile.
Why did you do this?
> Do you think it is vile?
Non-responsive & very telling. Dodge ignored.
> > > Question: Do you
> > > think the little Palestinian children are unworthy of life?
> >
> > Why do you lie about my not having answered this question?
>
> Are you saying you did answer the question?
Again, yes.
> Okay, what was the
> answer?
It was something you have ignored a number of times by now.
Go look it up yourself. The words "false position you assigned to me"
might be invaluable in your search.
> > What part of "not deign to dignify the foul position falsely
> > assigned to me by you" do you not understand?
>
> Okay, now you seem to be admitting you didn't answer the question.
No, I never lie, so I could not admit anything false.
> Why? Why won't you say "yes" to this simple question:
Why won't you admit that you have no right to demand
that I reply to a false position you viciosuly assigned me?
> Are the
> Palestinians worthy to live?
It takes a sick bigot to pretend that this should ever come up
for discussion - hence I am not surprised that you would do it, as well as
pretend that I did.
> >
> > Let me explain a little further, just to rub your nsoe in it:
> >
> > For me to dignify answering this false position that you
>
> It's a questiton.
It is not a "question" - it is a re-stating of a false position that you
vilely assigned me.
> It doesn't become your postion until you make it
> your position by refusing to answer it.
Not at all. If I don't even deign to acknowledge your vile
supposition, it has nothing whatever to do with me, &
everything to do with you.
> Once more: Why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of
> view?
Once more: why do you pretend that you have a right to viciosuly
assign me a false position & then demand that I answer it in the
way that you wantme to?
Why do you not accept that I did, indeed, answer it far more firmly
than you could ever have hoped - i.e., also condemning you for
daring to assign me the position in the first place, much less then
demand that I reply to it?
[snip repetitious crap that only compounds your guilt]
> > Therefore, no simple answer to such a "question"
>
> Of course there is. The simpel answer is "yes."
Not when you, by falsely assigning me a position, then
demand that I somehow atone for it by answering this
supposed "question" of yours. It's despicable, & only
someone like you could have thought of it.
> It's only a difficult question is you think
> Israel has the right to commit genocide.
No, in this thread (as you are so fond of screeching),
it's only a simple question to those lying about Israel
committing genocide.
> > (which
> > we all know is not a question at all but a sick accusation
> > from an even sicker bigot) will do.
>
> Of course it's a question -- and a very simple one at that: Do you
> believe that Palestinians have the right to live?
Asked & answered - but at least you don't bother to dodge
the truth: that you are a sick bigot who makes sick accusations.
[snip to rather the heart of this little side-problem:]
> > I utterly repudiate not
> > just the entire notion you so disgustingly lied about my
> > holding, but your right to even ask me about it, *especially*
> > since it was you who fabricated it out of your own bigotry
> > in the first place.
>
>
> It's a very simple question: Do you believe that Palestinians have the
> right to live?
Thank you for proving, beyond all doubt, that you LIVE to
lie about those who expose your bigotry.
What part of "I UTTERLY REPUDIATE NOT JUST THE ENTIRE
NOTION YOU SO DISGUSTINGLY LIED ABOUT MY HOLDING"
do you not get? Are you going to now conveniently forget that
you LIED about me saying they *don't* have a right to live?
Are you?
> >
> > Still going to pretend that I didn;t answer your lies?
>
> No lies, just a simple questiton:
You do lie, & you refuse to answer these simple questions:
Why do you lie about Israel? Why do you lie that she
"indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
agreeing with those who say she is?
Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
so-called Palestinians?
Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
> > Why do you think this new & still pathetic dodge will serve any
> > better than all the other pathetic dodges you have employed thus
> > far to escape your obvious lies & hatred?
>
> It's not "hatred" to ask you if you think the Palestinians are worthy
> to live.
Yes, it is, when you have deliberately ascribed to me a false
position that they *don't*, & you refuse to admit that I have
repudiated not just the notion but your right to ask anything
of me - especially given the fact that you refuse to answer
for anything that *you* posted - not fabricated statements
> It reflects "hatred," though, when you refuse to answer such
> a simple question.
Hatred of your tactics, yes; hatred of your lies, yes.
> Hatred of the Palestinians, that is.
No - you lie as always.
> I think it's a shame you feel
> that way about them.
It's a shame that you lie so brazenly.
> I don't think there will ever be peace in the
> Middle East as long as such hatred exists.
Yours, yes - for not just Israel, but Jews.
Thanks for proving it yet again.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
If you really answered it you'd just repeat the answer instead that
lame excuse.
>
> > > > And why won't you answer this simple question:
>
> > > Why won't you?
>
> > I believe Jews and Palestinians (and all other people, too) have human
> > rights, including the right to live.
>
> Which is not the question I was asking
But it is the question I'm asking you -- have been asking for about
the last week. The question you find so hard to answer: Do you think
the Palestinians have the right to live?
> - I was asking why
> you lie about Israel, & about Judaism.
Ad hominem noted (And you haven't demonstrated that I have. )
What's so hard about answering this question about the Palestinians?
Why can't you admit they have the right to live?
> You refuse to
> address any of the lies you have told:
>
> Why do you lie about Israel? Why do you lie that she
> "indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
I didn't say Israel indiscriminately bombs civilians (though plenty of
her bombs do fall on civilians). Here is a link for folks to read.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/gaza-israel-death-un
See how easy it is to answer questions when if you're not a fanatic,
Susan? I believe that Jews and Palestinians both have human rights.
They both have the right to live. Why don't you agree with that?
> Why do you lie that she is committing genocide,
I have never said that Israel is committing genocide. Israel has
certainly done evil things to the Palestinians, but I'm not sure those
things rise to the definition of "genocide."
See how easy it is to answer questions when you're not a fanatic? Why
don't you answer the question: Do Palestinians have the right to
live? Are you "not sure" of the answer? A moral/ethical person would
have no trouble answering the question -- why is it such a problem for
you?
> by
> agreeing with those who say she is?
> Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
> so-called Palestinians?
I didn't say Israel is. But the following link to a news source says
otherwise:
http://www.icahd.org/eng/faq.asp?menu=9&submenu=1
See how easy it is to answer questions when you're not a fanatic? Why
don't you answer the question: Do Palestinians have the right to
live? Are you "not sure" of the answer? A moral/ethical person would
have no trouble answering the question -- why is it such a problem for
you?
> Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
Ad hominem noted.
>
> > So why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of view?
>
> Why why do you continue to lie about me in this fashion?
Susan, nobody is forcing you to refuse to answer this simple
question: Do you think that Palestinians have the right to live?
A moral/ethical person would have no trouble answering the question --
why is it such a problem for you?
> Why are you so desperate to assign me such a false position
> and then pretend that I not only have to answer to you in any way
> about it, but that I actually agree with the false assignment?
Susan, nobody is forcing you to refuse to answer this simple
question: Do you think that Palestinians have the right to live?
A moral/ethical person would have no trouble answering the question --
why is it such a problem for you?
>
> On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Why won't you answer any of the questions
> > > ever put to you?
>
> > What would those be?
>
> The lies I mention above - the lies you ignored in all the
> previous posts where I have pointed them out.
>
> > > Why do you lie about Israel?
>
> > What "lies?"
>
> The lies I mention above - the lies you ignored in all the
> previous posts where I have pointed them out.
>
> > Be specific
>
> Ok, I'll just repost them:
>
> Why do you lie that she
> "indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
You seem to be repeating yourself, Susan. So I'll repeat the answers
I didn't say Israel indiscriminately bombs civilians (though plenty of
her bombs do fall on civilians). Here is a link for folks to read.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/gaza-israel-death-un
See how easy it is to answer questions when if you're not a fanatic,
Susan? I believe that Jews and Palestinians both have human rights.
They both have the right to live. Why don't you agree with that?
> Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
> agreeing with those who say she is?
I have never said that Israel is committing genocide. Israel has
certainly done evil things to the Palestinians, but I'm not sure those
things rise to the definition of "genocide."
See how easy it is to answer questions when you're not a fanatic? Why
don't you answer the question: Do Palestinians have the right to
live? Are you "not sure" of the answer? A moral/ethical person would
have no trouble answering the question -- why is it such a problem for
you?
> Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
> so-called Palestinians?
I didn't say Israel is. But the following link to a news source says
otherwise:
http://www.icahd.org/eng/faq.asp?menu=9&submenu=1
See how easy it is to answer questions when you're not a fanatic? Why
don't you answer the question: Do Palestinians have the right to
live? Are you "not sure" of the answer? A moral/ethical person would
have no trouble answering the question -- why is it such a problem for
you?
> Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
I don't think Judaism is vile. Do you think Judaism is vile?
See how easy it is to answer questions when you're not a fanatic? Why
don't you answer the question: Do Palestinians have the right to
live? Are you "not sure" of the answer? A moral/ethical person would
have no trouble answering the question -- why is it such a problem for
you?
>
> > and prove they were lies.
>
> No, liar. That's not how things work.
Yeah, it is, Susan. When you accuse someone of lying you have to
prove your accusation.
Your response ("That's not how things work") makes it pretty clear who
the liar is.
No matter. I've fully answered all your questions (twice in this post
alone). Now it's time for you to answer this one: Do Palestinians
have the right to live? Are you "not sure" of the answer? A moral/
ethical person would have no trouble answering the question. Why is
it such a problem for you?
fla...@verizon.net
On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I did. Why don't you post the part you think I didn't reply to?
> >
> > Because every time I do, you snip it, ignore it & lie - like now.
>
>
> If you really answered it you'd just repeat the answer instead that
> lame excuse.
You lie, as always.
[begin quote]
What part of "I UTTERLY REPUDIATE NOT JUST THE ENTIRE
NOTION YOU SO DISGUSTINGLY LIED ABOUT MY HOLDING"
do you not get? Are you going to now conveniently forget that
you LIED about me saying they *don't* have a right to live?
Are you?
[end quote]
Now, you can answer these questions:
Why do you lie about Israel? Why do you lie that she
"indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
Why do you lie that she is committing genocide, by
agreeing with those who say she is?
Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
so-called Palestinians?
Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > - I was asking why
> > you lie about Israel, & about Judaism.
>
> Ad hominem noted
Sincw we are discussing your lies, it is not
(And you haven't demonstrated that I have. )
You agreed with someone wwho said that Judaism was
vile (along other foul lies); you have agreed with people
saying Israel is committing genocide; you have said that
Israel is indiscrimiately bombing civilians - you have told
MANY lies, & I have all your posts to prove it.
>
> What's so hard about answering this question about the Palestinians?
What sp hard about noto nly admitting that i have, but that you
have yet to answer any question I havwe put to you about your lies?
> Why can't you admit they have the right to live?
>
Why can't you admit that I never EVER questioned this,
but that YOU FALSELY said I did?
>
> > You refuse to
> > address any of the lies you have told:
> >
> > Why do you lie about Israel? Why do you lie that she
> > "indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
>
> I didn't say Israel indiscriminately bombs civilians (though plenty of
> her bombs do fall on civilians).
Yes, you did:
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On Jan 14, 8:34 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:01:40 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> <fde79ff7-72e0-4800-9028-4d00044ea...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
[end quote]
Here is a link for folks to read.
This link- snipped - has nothing to do with the lies you tell.
But it *does* tell us just what you have refused to admit:
that your sole point in posting is to spread lies & hatred
about Israel.
> > Why do you lie that she is committing genocide,
>
> I have never said that Israel is committing genocide.
You have agreed with those who have, you have snipped proof
in posts that she is not only to post your definition of it, &
you have refused to admit she is not doing it.
> Israel has
> certainly done evil things to the Palestinians
No, she certainly has not - you lie yet again.
>, but I'm not sure those
> things rise to the definition of "genocide."
>
> See how easy it is to answer questions when you're not a fanatic?
Then you must be one, because you have refused to answer
anything put to you except to dodge the questions - just as
you have falsely accused me of doing.
Why
> don't you answer the question: Do Palestinians have the right to
> live?
Why don't you accept that not only have I answered the question,
but you have no right to ever question me on a made-up position
that you falsely asdsigned to me?
> Are you "not sure" of the answer?
Is that why you refuse to admit why you lied about Israel &
about Jews - are you not sure of why you do it?
> A moral/ethical person would
> have no trouble answering the question
A moral/ethical person would never have lied about what
my position was in the first place, much less demanded
me to answer his lie.
>-- why is it such a problem for
> you?
>
Why do you keep lying like this?
> > by
> > agreeing with those who say she is?
> > Why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
> > so-called Palestinians?
>
> I didn't say Israel is.
Yes, you absolutely do:
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Subject: Re: VIDEO: Red Cross accuses Israel
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> And I do have to say, upon further reflection, that I simplified matters.
> Many of them cannot move out because the other Arab nations will
> not take them unless forced to (such as in the case of those who are
> actually citizens of other countries) - even tho' they had invited them
> in back in '48. They want them to remain a festering wound in Israel's
> side.
"Nobody should have to move from their home -- least wise to
accommodate others that are trying to steal their homes."
[end quote]
And when challenged on this, you do not even admit your lie,
but try to change to "take", as if those whose homes are lost
are not fully liable for the actions they took to lose them.
> But the following link to a news source says
> otherwise:
Again, this link- snipped- has nothing to do with the lies you tell.
But it *does* tell us just what you have refused to admit:
that your sole point in posting is to spread lies & hatred
about Israel.
> See how easy it is to answer questions when you're not a fanatic?
Then you must be one, because you have refused to answer
anything put to you except to dodge the questions - just as
you have falsely accused me of doing.
Why
> don't you answer the question: Do Palestinians have the right to
> live?
Why don't you accept that not only have I answered the question,
but you have no right to ever question me on a made-up position
that you falsely assigned to me?
> Are you "not sure" of the answer?
Is that why you refuse to admit why you lied about Israel &
about Jews - are you not sure of why you do it?
> A moral/ethical person would
> have no trouble answering the question
A moral/ethical person would never have lied about what
my position was in the first place, much less demanded
me to answer his lie.
>-- why is it such a problem for
> you?
>
Why do you keep lying like this?
> > Why do you lie about Judaism? Why do you lie that it's vile?
>
> Ad hominem noted.
>
DODGE noted - & no ad hominem: you said exactly that
when you agreed with the person who said it & worse:
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On Jan 9, 7:33 am, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
wrote:
"> Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> of Gaza really belongs to Israel?
Very interesting questions. And I think they apply as well to
America."
[end quote]
>
> >
> > > So why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of view?
> >
> > Why why do you continue to lie about me in this fashion?
>
> Susan, nobody is forcing you to refuse to answer this simple
> question:
Duwayne, no one is forcing you to lie about the fact that I have answered
this.
> Do you think that Palestinians have the right to live?
>
[begin quote]
What part of "I UTTERLY REPUDIATE NOT JUST THE ENTIRE
NOTION YOU SO DISGUSTINGLY LIED ABOUT MY HOLDING"
do you not get? Are you going to now conveniently forget that
you LIED about me saying they *don't* have a right to live?
Are you?
[end quote]
But, perhaps more interestingly, do you think that Israel has
a right to live? A right to live in peace & security?
> A moral/ethical person would
> have no trouble answering the question
A moral/ethical person would never have lied about what
my position was in the first place, much less demanded
me to answer his lie.
>-- why is it such a problem for
> you?
>
Why do you keep lying like this?
>
> > Why are you so desperate to assign me such a false position
> > and then pretend that I not only have to answer to you in any way
> > about it, but that I actually agree with the false assignment?
>
> Susan, nobody is forcing you to refuse to answer this simple
> question: Do you think that Palestinians have the right to live?
>
Duwayne, no one is forcing you to lie about me, but you do - constantly.
> A moral/ethical person would have no trouble answering the question --
A moral/ethical person would never have lied about me in the
first place, much less about whether I had actually graciously
deigned to answer somehting he had no right to ask me in the
first place.
> why is it such a problem for you?
>
You know, you wouldn't have to lie like this if you actually liked
yourself more.
>
> >
> > On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Why won't you answer any of the questions
> > > > ever put to you?
> >
> > > What would those be?
> >
> > The lies I mention above - the lies you ignored in all the
> > previous posts where I have pointed them out.
> >
> > > > Why do you lie about Israel?
> >
> > > What "lies?"
> >
> > The lies I mention above - the lies you ignored in all the
> > previous posts where I have pointed them out.
> >
> > > Be specific
> >
> > Ok, I'll just repost them:
> >
> > Why do you lie that she
> > "indiscriminately bombs civilians"?
>
> You seem to be repeating yourself, Susan.
Because you refuse to answer anything about your lies.
So I'll repeat the answers
No, I want you to answer your lies, not repeat them
> > > and prove they were lies.
> >
> > No, liar. That's not how things work.
>
> Yeah, it is, Susan. When you accuse someone of lying you have to
> prove your accusation.
No, liar. When you make false statements & someone challenges
them you have to prove the statements. OItherwise, I could do what
you do & then sit back & tell you to disprove it.
Here, I'll show you:
"Duwayne is a pedophile."
Go ahead, prove it isn't a lie.
> Your response ("That's not how things work") makes it pretty clear who
> the liar is.
Yes, you, on all counts, &, as usual, I showed it.
> No matter. I've fully answered all your questions (twice in this post
> alone).
Really?
I must have missed your answers as to why you lie about Israel,
why you lie that she "indiscriminately bombs civilians", why you
lie that she is committing genocide by agreeing with those who
say she is, why do you lie about Israel "stealing homes" from
so-called Palestinians & why do you lie about Judaism incalling
it vile, among other things.
Why don't you re-post those answers - I mean, ionstead of denying
that you ever said them, when your posts where you say them are
right here, in this post.
> Now it's time for you to answer this one: Do Palestinians
> have the right to live?
I am not going to answer this for the umpteenth time, only to
have you pretend I didn't.
You have yet to answer a single question put to you - you
have even denied what is posted in black & white - your own
words.
You are a hate-filled liar, & you are not going to escape that.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I did. Why don't you post the part you think I didn't reply to?
>
> > > Because every time I do, you snip it, ignore it & lie - like now.
>
> > If you really answered it you'd just repeat the answer instead that
> > lame excuse.
>
> You lie, as always.
>
> [begin quote]
>
> What part of "I UTTERLY REPUDIATE NOT JUST THE ENTIRE
> NOTION YOU SO DISGUSTINGLY LIED ABOUT MY HOLDING"
> do you not get?
The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan. The questions
are about the Palestinians.
1) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to live?
2) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to self
determination?
3) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to a homeland?
The questions are simple enough to answer, for any decent human being.
Duwaynea Anderson
> Subject: Re: "Now kill all the boys"
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:36:41 -0800 (PST)
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> On Jan 14, 8:34 am, Matt Silberstein<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:01:40 -0800 (PST), in alt.atheism , Duwaynea
> > Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> in
> > <fde79ff7-72e0-4800-9028-4d00044ea...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Any time people are forcibly removed from their homes a certain
> percentage will become "terrorists." Indiscriminate bombing that
> kills innocent civilians is another way to grow terrorists. "An eye
> for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" seems to be a particularly good
> way to drag confrontation through generation after generation.
It's still a mystery why you find that statement so offensive. No
decent person would.
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> From: Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.religion,alt.religion.mormon,soc.culture.jewish
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> On Jan 9, 7:33 am, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
> wrote:
>
> "> Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
>
> > their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> > can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> > of Gaza really belongs to Israel?
>
> Very interesting questions. And I think they apply as well to
> America."
>
> [end quote]
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > So why won't you agree with that simple humanitarian point of view?
>
> > > Why why do you continue to lie about me in this fashion?
>
> > Susan, nobody is forcing you to refuse to answer this simple
> > question:
>
> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -
fla...@verizon.net
On 12-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 3:20 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > I did. Why don't you post the part you think I didn't reply
> > > > >to?
> >
> > > > Because every time I do, you snip it, ignore it & lie - like now.
> >
> > > If you really answered it you'd just repeat the answer instead that
> > > lame excuse.
> >
> > You lie, as always.
> >
> > [begin quote]
> >
> > What part of "I UTTERLY REPUDIATE NOT JUST THE ENTIRE
> > NOTION YOU SO DISGUSTINGLY LIED ABOUT MY HOLDING"
> > do you not get?
>
> The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan.
Learn to read - that's not what that says above.
However, no matter:
You have done nothing but lie - about Israel, about your posts, about me &
about Judaism itself, either outright, or by agreeing with those who were
doing the original lying; I have the posts to prove it.
When confronted with your lies, you have done nothing but attempt to evade
the truth - either by bluffing, dodging or more lies; our entire exchange
will attest to this. The only glimmer of truth from you was your final
admission that Israel was not committing genocide, and your grudging,
eventual, off-hand admission that your multiple accusations about me,
personally were “misattributions”.
You have attempted to manipulate the discourse, either through false
pretenses of control on your part, distortions of what you previously said
or merely a pretense on your part that you don't even have to follow the
accepted norms of argument - i.e., proving what you say, rather than
pretending others have to disprove it.
I, OTOH, have exposed you thoroughly. Pesach is coming, it's a busy time;
I'm not going to bother re-hashing old trash anymore.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 12-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 3:53 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 11-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > - I was asking why
> > > > you lie about Israel, & about Judaism.
> >
> > > Ad hominem noted
> >
> > Since we are discussing your lies, it is not
> >
> > (And you haven't demonstrated that I have. )
> >
> > You agreed with someone wwho said that Judaism was
> > vile (along other foul lies); you have agreed with people
> > saying Israel is committing genocide; you have said that
> > Israel is indiscrimiately bombing civilians - you have told
> > MANY lies, & I have all your posts to prove it.
> >
At least you do not have the gall to pretend this isn't true - thank you for
this admission.
> >
> >
> > > What's so hard about answering this question about the Palestinians?
> >
> > What so hard about not only admitting that I have, but that you
> > have yet to answer any question I havwe put to you about your lies?
> >
> > > Why can't you admit they have the right to live?
> >
> > Why can't you admit that I never EVER questioned this,
> > but that YOU FALSELY said I did?
> >
And again - thank you for admitting that you have been lying all along about
this.
I would insist once agian that this is one of your many lies,
but that would be to then credit you with normal intelligence.
After all, it's been explained how the context is very important -
in fact, the very post to which you answered pointed out that
very context - that you falsely attributed these actions to
Israel.
No>
> decent person would.
No decent person would have applied it falsely to Israel the way you did.
But, no matter:
Duwaynea Anderson
>
> - Show quoted text -
The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan. The questions
Duwaynea Anderson
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan. The questions
fla...@verizon.net
Thanks for admitting that you really don't read - you just blather & lie.
Susan
B.H. Cramer
<fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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BBBWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
This, from the cunt who does nothing BUT blather and lie.
Tell us again how you changed race and became a jew, suzie babes.
That particular lie still gets my funny bone working.
Duwaynea Anderson
The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan. The questions
fla...@verizon.net
Pathetic dodge noted yet again, liar.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
Speaking of dodges, you ignored the questions -- for the 28th time.
Here it is again:
1) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to live?
2) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to self
determination?
3) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to a homeland?
The questions are simple enough to answer, for any decent human
being.
> liar.
fla...@verizon.net
On 30-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan.
> >
> > > > Thanks for admitting that you really don't read - you just blather &
> > > > lie.
> >
> > > > Susan- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan
> >
> > Pathetic dodge noted yet again,
>
> Speaking of dodges,
Thank you for admitting it.
> you ignored the questions
Do stop lying about this.
It is you who have ignroed every question put to you,
as well as lied about what I have answered.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 30-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan.
>
> > > > > Thanks for admitting that you really don't read - you just blather &
> > > > > lie.
>
> > > > > Susan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan
>
> > > Pathetic dodge noted yet again,
>
> > Speaking of dodges,
>
> Thank you for admitting it.
Susan, I assume you are not really confused about what an admission is
>
> > you ignored the questions
>
> Do stop lying about this.
Hey, you did it again. Snipped and ignored the questions. What do
you find so difficult about these simple questions?
1) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to live?
2) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to self
determination?
3) Do you believe the Palestinians have the right to a homeland?
The questions are simple enough to answer, for any decent human
being.
> It is you who have ignroed every question put to you,
Alexander
Come now, Sowsan. This NG is a chronicle to your tens of thousands of
lies and prevarications.
fla...@verizon.net
On 31-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 8:21 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 30-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan.
> >
> > > > > > Thanks for admitting that you really don't read - you just
> > > > >blather &
> > > > > > lie.
> >
> > > > > > Susan- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan
> >
> > > > Pathetic dodge noted yet again,
> >
> > > Speaking of dodges,
> >
> > Thank you for admitting it.
>
> Susan, I assume you are not really confused about what an admission is
Of course not. Neither I, nor Dr. Freud.
> >
> > > you ignored the questions
> >
> > Do stop lying about this.
>
> Hey, you did it again. Snipped and ignored the questions.
No, you are the one ignoring the fact that I have already
answered them, & trying to pretend that it's about
something else you imagined (above).
You are the one who ignores questions - such as
"Why do you insist on lying about me?"
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 31-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 8:21 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 30-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan.
>
> > > > > > > Thanks for admitting that you really don't read - you just
> > > > > >blather &
> > > > > > > lie.
>
> > > > > > > Susan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan
>
> > > > > Pathetic dodge noted yet again,
>
> > > > Speaking of dodges,
>
> > > Thank you for admitting it.
>
> > Susan, I assume you are not really confused about what an admission is
>
> Of course not. Neither I, nor Dr. Freud.
>
>
>
> > > > you ignored the questions
>
> > > Do stop lying about this.
>
> > Hey, you did it again. Snipped and ignored the questions.
>
> No,
Hey, you did it again. Snipped and ignored the questions.
> you are the one ignoring the fact that I have already
> answered them,
What were your answers?
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to live?" Did you answer "no?"
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to self determination?" Did you answer "no?"
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to a homeland?" Did you answser "no?"
What do you find so difficult about these simple questions?
The questions are simple enough to answer, for any decent human
being.
> & trying to pretend that it's about
> something else you imagined (above).
>
> You are the one who ignores questions - such as
> "Why do you insist on lying about me?"
>
fla...@verizon.net
On 31-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2:05 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On 31-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 30, 8:21 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > On 30-Mar-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan.
> >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for admitting that you really don't read - you just
> > > > > > >blather &
> > > > > > > > lie.
> >
> > > > > > > > Susan- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > > > > > The question isn't whether or not you hate me, Susan
> >
> > > > > > Pathetic dodge noted yet again,
> >
> > > > > Speaking of dodges,
> >
> > > > Thank you for admitting it.
> >
> > > Susan, I assume you are not really confused about what an admission is
> >
> > Of course not. Neither I, nor Dr. Freud.
> >
Thanks for admitting by your inability to counter this that I was, indeeed,
correct.
> >
> >
> > > > > you ignored the questions
> >
> > > > Do stop lying about this.
> >
> > > Hey, you did it again. Snipped and ignored the questions.
> >
> > No,
>
> Hey, you did it again. Snipped and ignored the questions.
Hey, you did it again - snipped what I wrote because you couldn't counter
it.
Good job!
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
I snipped nothing, Susan. Anyone can verify that. And, once again,
you ignored the questions:
What were your answers?
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to live?" Did you answer "no?"
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to self determination?" Did you answer "no?"
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to a homeland?" Did you answser "no?"
What do you find so difficult about these simple questions?
The questions are simple enough to answer, for any decent human
being.
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> Good job!
fla...@verizon.net
On 1-Apr-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, you did it again - snipped what I wrote because you couldn't
> > counter
> > it.
>
> I snipped nothing, Susan. Anyone can verify that.
Dream on.
What everyone can verify is that you lie - you lie about
Israel, you lie about Judaism & you lie about anyone
who dares to point it out to you.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 1-Apr-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Hey, you did it again - snipped what I wrote because you couldn't
> > > counter
> > > it.
>
> > I snipped nothing, Susan. Anyone can verify that.
>
> Dream on.
You did it again. Snipped and ignored the questions.
Anyone can verify that. And, once again,
you ignored the questions:
What were your answers?
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to live?" Did you answer "no?"
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to self determination?" Did you answer "no?"
Did you answer "yes" when I asked "Do you believe the Palestinians
have the right to a homeland?" Did you answser "no?"
What do you find so difficult about these simple questions?
The questions are simple enough to answer, for any decent human
being.
> What everyone can verify is that you lie - you lie about