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Man of Mind <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:k6kf3k$ddd$1@dont-email.me: 

> On 10/28/2012 4:44 PM, Bill Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:23:45 -0500, Man of Mind replied:
>>>
>>> On 10/28/2012 3:49 PM, flawed shrieking fraud whimpered in
>>> frustration: 
>>>>
>>>> berzerk_f...@yahoo.com wrote in talk.politics.goons:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:13:26 -0500, Man of Mind pointed out to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/28/2012 10:59 AM, flawed shrieking fraud whined/opined:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3216 Dead replied with a simple concept:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:54:11 -0500, berserk_fart writhed in
>>>>>>>> denials: 
> ........
>>>>>>>>> That is exactly why I have issues with liberals - they do not
>>>>>>>>> believe in the basic American tenets of freedom.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The most basic tenet is that the American people serve
>>>>>>>> themselves, and not rich masters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Serve themselves." WTF does that mean?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It means that 'freedom' is not equivalent to 'economic serfdom'..
>>>>>
>>>>> And exactly who do you believe is in a state of 'economic
>>>>> serfdom'? 
>>>>
>>>> When the government doesn't supply 100% of everything they want
>>>
>>> That would be a non sequitur, as the expectation of any sort
>>> of "government supplying 100% of everything" is not only just
>>> impossible, it's a false premise on which to characterize an
>>> opponent's position (eg straw man pseudo-argument)..
>>>
>>> So, Blobby Frenchu's bloviation aside, the government provides
>>> for the well-being of "We, the People, of the United States"..
>>>
>>> --That's in the Preamble, as well as Article I, Section 8, Clause
>>> 1.. 
>>
>> Not exactly, it says  "general welfare".
> 
> And you wish to conflate the meaning of that to insinuate what?
> 
>> Do you think it means, for example, free health care?
> 
> That would be a rather dishonest rhetorical question, which
> doesn't address how much health care costs have increased
> because of neglecting those who can't afford it..
> 
> So, to address your "question", no, nor do I support corporately
> "managed healthcare" for the few..
> 
> --Don't you remember when hospitals were "non-profit"?
> 
> 

No.  Do you have some verifiable examples?

-- 

Democracy means that anyone can grow up to be President, 

And anyone who doesn't grow up can be Vice President.


Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)