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Fred^44
Nov 15, 2012, 2:24:16 PM11/15/12
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Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
Eddie Haskell
Nov 15, 2012, 2:33:07 PM11/15/12
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"Fred^44" <rep...@scientology.org> wrote in message
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Yawn..
"What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing. Faster
than was predicted even ten years ago. We do know that the Arctic ice cap is
melting, faster than was predicted even five years ago. We do know that
there have been extraordinarily - there - there have been an extraordinarily
large number of severe weather events here in North America, but also around
the globe."
-Hussein, Socialist Liar-n-Chief
"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data
released last week. "
http://tinyurl.com/asm5wgs
"Two decades of measurements show that changing wind patterns around
Antarctica have caused a small increase in sea ice, the result of cold winds
off the continent blowing ice away from the coastline."
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-antarctic-sea-ice-grows-as-arctic-melts-2012-11#ixzz2CJBkNJtH
"MYTH 8: Global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes."
"FACT: There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that
supports such claims on a global scale. Regional variations may occur.
Growing insurance and infrastructure repair costs, particularly in coastal
areas, are sometimes claimed to be the result of increasing frequency and
severity of storms, whereas in reality they are a function of increasing
population density, escalating development value, and ever more media
reporting."
http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-myths-of-global-warming/
-Eddie Haskell
deep
Nov 15, 2012, 3:32:16 PM11/15/12
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:33:07 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <tyv...@sqpcb.com>
wrote:
>
>"Fred^44" <rep...@scientology.org> wrote in message
>news:BtGdnXZP0_7-3DjN...@posted.sonicnet...
>
>Yawn..
>
>"What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing. Faster
>than was predicted even ten years ago. We do know that the Arctic ice cap is
>melting, faster than was predicted even five years ago. We do know that
>there have been extraordinarily - there - there have been an extraordinarily
>large number of severe weather events here in North America, but also around
>the globe."
>
>-Hussein, Socialist Liar-n-Chief
>
>"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data
>released last week. "
>
>http://tinyurl.com/asm5wgs
The Daily Mall, huh? Great scientific publication. Now if you want
to know the truth you need to go to NOAA. Look up "temperature
anomalies."
>
>"Two decades of measurements show that changing wind patterns around
>Antarctica have caused a small increase in sea ice, the result of cold winds
>off the continent blowing ice away from the coastline."
>
>http://www.businessinsider.com/why-antarctic-sea-ice-grows-as-arctic-melts-2012-11#ixzz2CJBkNJtH
>
>"MYTH 8: Global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes."
>"FACT: There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that
>supports such claims on a global scale. Regional variations may occur.
>Growing insurance and infrastructure repair costs, particularly in coastal
>areas, are sometimes claimed to be the result of increasing frequency and
>severity of storms, whereas in reality they are a function of increasing
>population density, escalating development value, and ever more media
>reporting."
Higher temperatures allow the air to hold more moisture. That's a
science thing you probably don't understand. But a warmer, wetter
storm generates more energy, and causes a greater shift in the jet
stream. This causes more severe hot and cold temperatures coming
together creating severe, powerful storms. More science you don't
understand. Maybe you should find yourself a third grader to explain
it all to you, dumbass.
>
>http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-myths-of-global-warming/
"Our Opinion:
It is our opinion that the Sun is the main direct and indirect driver
of climate change. "
This is NOT correct. Of course climate scientists have looked at
solar, and it is NOT solar.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
>
>
>
>
wrote:
>
>"Fred^44" <rep...@scientology.org> wrote in message
>news:BtGdnXZP0_7-3DjN...@posted.sonicnet...
>
>Yawn..
>
>"What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing. Faster
>than was predicted even ten years ago. We do know that the Arctic ice cap is
>melting, faster than was predicted even five years ago. We do know that
>there have been extraordinarily - there - there have been an extraordinarily
>large number of severe weather events here in North America, but also around
>the globe."
>
>-Hussein, Socialist Liar-n-Chief
>
>"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data
>released last week. "
>
>http://tinyurl.com/asm5wgs
to know the truth you need to go to NOAA. Look up "temperature
anomalies."
>
>"Two decades of measurements show that changing wind patterns around
>Antarctica have caused a small increase in sea ice, the result of cold winds
>off the continent blowing ice away from the coastline."
>
>http://www.businessinsider.com/why-antarctic-sea-ice-grows-as-arctic-melts-2012-11#ixzz2CJBkNJtH
>
>"MYTH 8: Global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes."
>"FACT: There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that
>supports such claims on a global scale. Regional variations may occur.
>Growing insurance and infrastructure repair costs, particularly in coastal
>areas, are sometimes claimed to be the result of increasing frequency and
>severity of storms, whereas in reality they are a function of increasing
>population density, escalating development value, and ever more media
>reporting."
science thing you probably don't understand. But a warmer, wetter
storm generates more energy, and causes a greater shift in the jet
stream. This causes more severe hot and cold temperatures coming
together creating severe, powerful storms. More science you don't
understand. Maybe you should find yourself a third grader to explain
it all to you, dumbass.
>
>http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-myths-of-global-warming/
"Our Opinion:
It is our opinion that the Sun is the main direct and indirect driver
of climate change. "
This is NOT correct. Of course climate scientists have looked at
solar, and it is NOT solar.
>
>-Eddie Haskell
>
>
>
>
>
Father Haskell
Nov 15, 2012, 4:56:51 PM11/15/12
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Brian E. Clark
Nov 15, 2012, 5:09:29 PM11/15/12
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In article <bdd06948-e2f7-4a9e-80e1-ac396e59b9c9
@k6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, father...@yahoo.com
says...
> > Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
> > pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
> > of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
> So what abomination was behind Sandy?
"Honey Boo Boo".
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
@k6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, father...@yahoo.com
says...
> > Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
> > pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
> > of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
> So what abomination was behind Sandy?
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Frank Galikanokus
Nov 15, 2012, 5:23:38 PM11/15/12
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JAM
Fred^44
Nov 15, 2012, 6:58:16 PM11/15/12
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Father Haskell <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Obama's pending election seems to have angered the Christanic gods. At
least some of these Republican dimwits are now claiming.
least some of these Republican dimwits are now claiming.
Fred^44
Nov 15, 2012, 6:59:31 PM11/15/12
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Brian E. Clark <brian...@newsgroup.reply.only> wrote:
>In article <bdd06948-e2f7-4a9e-80e1-ac396e59b9c9
>@k6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, father...@yahoo.com
>In article <bdd06948-e2f7-4a9e-80e1-ac396e59b9c9
>@k6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, father...@yahoo.com
>>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>> So what abomination was behind Sandy?
>"Honey Boo Boo".
LOL! I saw the South Park spoof of that filthy phenomena. Good grief. THIS
>>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>> So what abomination was behind Sandy?
>"Honey Boo Boo".
is what American television has devolved to. Our Southern culture is the
laughing joke of the rest of the civilized world. :)
Tunderbar
Nov 15, 2012, 7:00:54 PM11/15/12
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linuxgal
Nov 15, 2012, 9:38:50 PM11/15/12
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--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0
SaPeIsMa
Nov 15, 2012, 10:00:50 PM11/15/12
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"linuxgal" <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in message
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woody ... woody....
YOU CAN COME BACK NOW !
back now.. back now....
Joe
Nov 15, 2012, 10:27:22 PM11/15/12
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Olrik
Nov 15, 2012, 11:33:16 PM11/15/12
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Le 2012-11-15 22:00, SaPeIsMa a �crit :
Shit, �SaPeIsMa� is back...
Early parole?
Early parole?
Father Haskell
Nov 16, 2012, 12:51:43 AM11/16/12
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On Nov 15, 6:58 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote:
Worthless gods. Can't even give Obama a paper cut.
Eddie Haskell
Nov 16, 2012, 10:29:56 AM11/16/12
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"deep" <de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:33:07 -0600, "Eddie Haskell" <tyv...@sqpcb.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Fred^44" <rep...@scientology.org> wrote in message
>>news:BtGdnXZP0_7-3DjN...@posted.sonicnet...
>>
>>Yawn..
>>
>>"What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing. Faster
>>than was predicted even ten years ago. We do know that the Arctic ice cap
>>is
>>melting, faster than was predicted even five years ago. We do know that
>>there have been extraordinarily - there - there have been an
>>extraordinarily
>>large number of severe weather events here in North America, but also
>>around
>>the globe."
>>
>>-Hussein, Socialist Liar-n-Chief
>>
>>"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new
>>data
>>released last week. "
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/asm5wgs
>
> The Daily Mall, huh? Great scientific publication.
Yeah, and you're just a lying nigger on UseNet. So who gives a damn what
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Fred^44" <rep...@scientology.org> wrote in message
>>news:BtGdnXZP0_7-3DjN...@posted.sonicnet...
>>
>>Yawn..
>>
>>"What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing. Faster
>>than was predicted even ten years ago. We do know that the Arctic ice cap
>>is
>>melting, faster than was predicted even five years ago. We do know that
>>there have been extraordinarily - there - there have been an
>>extraordinarily
>>large number of severe weather events here in North America, but also
>>around
>>the globe."
>>
>>-Hussein, Socialist Liar-n-Chief
>>
>>"The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new
>>data
>>released last week. "
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/asm5wgs
>
> The Daily Mall, huh? Great scientific publication.
you've got to say about it?
Heh heh..
Did yall see that? How I turned it around and rammed it right back up his
ass?
Heh heh..
-Eddie Haskell
Fred^44
Nov 16, 2012, 3:14:23 PM11/16/12
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Tunderbar <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
No need, rightard. Cult savages such as yourself can't be convinced
to wipe your own shitting asses after going to the bathroom, so normal
people are done trying to teach you deniers anything. No need. The
science is settled on climate change.
to wipe your own shitting asses after going to the bathroom, so normal
people are done trying to teach you deniers anything. No need. The
science is settled on climate change.
Tunderbar
Nov 16, 2012, 11:45:47 PM11/16/12
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On Nov 15, 1:24 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote:
what they do..... it's called "nature".
Joe Bruno
Nov 17, 2012, 7:29:54 AM11/17/12
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Fred^44
Nov 17, 2012, 1:19:43 PM11/17/12
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Tunderbar <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
Try again, cultist:
Tunderbar <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
Try again, cultist:
Tunderbar <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 15, 1:24=A0pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote:
>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>Is that supposed to convince someone about something?
No need, rightard. Cult savages such as yourself can't be convinced
to wipe your own shitting asses after going to the bathroom, so normal
people are done trying to teach you deniers anything. No need. The
science is settled on climate change.
No need, rightard. Cult savages such as yourself can't be convinced
to wipe your own shitting asses after going to the bathroom, so normal
people are done trying to teach you deniers anything. No need. The
science is settled on climate change.
>trees die off, occasionally, from perfectly natural causes
And the Christian loon expresses his Palin IQ once again.
Gray Guest
Nov 18, 2012, 12:50:09 PM11/18/12
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rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>
>
You do realize that trees are not immortal?
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama,
THEY GOT DENIED. Fuck Obama
3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>
>
--
Refusenik #1
Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.
Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama,
THEY GOT DENIED. Fuck Obama
Fred^44
Nov 18, 2012, 9:26:51 PM11/18/12
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Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>You do realize that trees are not immortal?
You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is irrelevant.
>rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>You do realize that trees are not immortal?
James Meyers
Nov 19, 2012, 4:30:45 AM11/19/12
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And Fred^44 You realize that your buttfuck opinion is irrelevant. Take your
hate elsewhere.
hate elsewhere.
Desertphile
Nov 19, 2012, 6:49:55 PM11/19/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
wrote:
Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
population.
--
"Whatever is inconsistent with the facts must be discarded
or revised." -- Dr. Carl Sagan
wrote:
into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
population.
--
"Whatever is inconsistent with the facts must be discarded
or revised." -- Dr. Carl Sagan
Scout
Nov 19, 2012, 6:51:57 PM11/19/12
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"Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
> wrote:
>
>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is irrelevant.
>
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
Then given the number of trees killed by humans through out the course of
> wrote:
>
>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is irrelevant.
>
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
human history....we should all be dead now.
Oh, except that the carbon released by one tree, is taken up in another.....
Father Haskell
Nov 19, 2012, 7:05:03 PM11/19/12
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On Nov 19, 6:51 pm, "Scout"
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Desertphile" <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:5bhla89t4i7bu670c...@4ax.com...
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> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
> > wrote:
>
> >> Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
> >> >3DjNnZ2dnUVZ_oadn...@posted.sonicnet:
OSB board for McMansion sheathing.
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Desertphile" <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5bhla89t4i7bu670c...@4ax.com...
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> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
> > wrote:
>
> >> Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
> >> >3DjNnZ2dnUVZ_oadn...@posted.sonicnet:
> >> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
> >> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
> >> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
> >> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
> >> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is irrelevant.
>
> > Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> > into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> > avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> > population.
>
> Then given the number of trees killed by humans through out the course of
> human history....we should all be dead now.
>
> Oh, except that the carbon released by one tree, is taken up in another.....
Provided it hasn't been cut down and digested into
> >> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
> >> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
> >> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
> >> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is irrelevant.
>
> > Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> > into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> > avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> > population.
>
> Then given the number of trees killed by humans through out the course of
> human history....we should all be dead now.
>
> Oh, except that the carbon released by one tree, is taken up in another.....
OSB board for McMansion sheathing.
Gray Guest
Nov 19, 2012, 7:39:27 PM11/19/12
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rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:
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You are one hate filled illiterate piece of work. You will not be missed.
linuxgal
Nov 19, 2012, 8:51:53 PM11/19/12
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Desertphile wrote:
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
That Solution sounds so Final, Herr Desertphile.
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
Scout
Nov 19, 2012, 10:40:36 PM11/19/12
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"Father Haskell" <father...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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living tree.
So what's the problem?
Tunderbar
Nov 19, 2012, 10:57:48 PM11/19/12
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Father Haskell
Nov 19, 2012, 11:10:13 PM11/19/12
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On Nov 19, 10:40 pm, "Scout"
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
OSB is trash. In two years, it's in the landfill -- and the
sucker^H^H^H homeowner pays 4x or so its value for
replacement. Does the carbon stay locked up? Or is
transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Father Haskell" <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
sucker^H^H^H homeowner pays 4x or so its value for
replacement. Does the carbon stay locked up? Or is
transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
SaPeIsMa
Nov 19, 2012, 11:37:29 PM11/19/12
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"Tunderbar" <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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# ad hominem
#
I would suspect that even Sarah Palin has more than double the IQ of freddy
the racist fool.
Scout
Nov 20, 2012, 12:18:32 AM11/20/12
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Then don't use it.
Personally I consider OSB today to be basically equal to plywood for most
uses.
> In two years, it's in the landfill
Really? I've seen a lot of houses in the last 20 years using OSB...and it's
still in the house and working perfectly.
> -- and the
> sucker^H^H^H homeowner pays 4x or so its value for
> replacement.
Sure and they would be doing the same with plywood. After all, that which
would degrade modern OSB would degrade plywood just the same.
>Does the carbon stay locked up?
Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find 100 year
old newspapers buried in the older ones.
> Or is
> transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same thing
would happen.
So again...what point are you attempting to make?
Personally I consider OSB today to be basically equal to plywood for most
uses.
> In two years, it's in the landfill
still in the house and working perfectly.
> -- and the
> sucker^H^H^H homeowner pays 4x or so its value for
> replacement.
would degrade modern OSB would degrade plywood just the same.
>Does the carbon stay locked up?
old newspapers buried in the older ones.
> Or is
> transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
would happen.
So again...what point are you attempting to make?
Gray Guest
Nov 20, 2012, 12:32:26 AM11/20/12
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Desertphile <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in
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> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
> wrote:
>
>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is
irrelevant.
>
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
>
>
Why doncha get started right away, Sparky.
news:5bhla89t4i7bu670c...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
> wrote:
>
>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is
irrelevant.
>
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
>
>
SaPeIsMa
Nov 20, 2012, 7:39:35 AM11/20/12
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"Gray Guest" <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in message
news:XnsA11158E19408We...@88.198.244.100...
> Desertphile <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in
> news:5bhla89t4i7bu670c...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>>
>>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>>
>>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is
> irrelevant.
>>
>> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>> population.
>>
>>
>
> Why doncha get started right away, Sparky.
>
Indeed visionaries like him should lead the way by example.
> news:5bhla89t4i7bu670c...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>>
>>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>>
>>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is
> irrelevant.
>>
>> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>> population.
>>
>>
>
> Why doncha get started right away, Sparky.
>
Don Martin
Nov 20, 2012, 9:12:55 AM11/20/12
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Tunderbar <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 12:19 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote:
>> Tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Try again, cultist:
>>
>> Tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 12:19 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote:
>> Tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Try again, cultist:
>>
>> Tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 15, 1:24 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote:
>>>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>>>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>>> Is that supposed to convince someone about something?
>>
>> No need, rightard. Cult savages such as yourself can't be convinced
>> to wipe your own shitting asses after going to the bathroom, so normal
>> people are done trying to teach you deniers anything. No need. The
>> science is settled on climate change.
>>
>>> trees die off, occasionally, from perfectly natural causes
>>
>> And the Christian loon expresses his Palin IQ once again.
>
> ad hominem
It is good to know that even her supporters recognize "Palin IQ" as an
>>>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>>>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>>> Is that supposed to convince someone about something?
>>
>> No need, rightard. Cult savages such as yourself can't be convinced
>> to wipe your own shitting asses after going to the bathroom, so normal
>> people are done trying to teach you deniers anything. No need. The
>> science is settled on climate change.
>>
>>> trees die off, occasionally, from perfectly natural causes
>>
>> And the Christian loon expresses his Palin IQ once again.
>
> ad hominem
insult. Progress!
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Nov 20, 2012, 1:33:32 PM11/20/12
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Your breath. So STFU about it, Sambo fucker.
-Eddie Haskell
Your breath. So STFU about it, Sambo fucker.
-Eddie Haskell
Gray Guest
Nov 20, 2012, 8:17:11 PM11/20/12
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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote in news:k8g1c7$pba$1...@dont-email.me:
Problem is, all they ever do is run thier mouths.
Father Haskell
Nov 20, 2012, 9:25:19 PM11/20/12
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On Nov 20, 12:18 am, "Scout"
CDX doesn't have end grain everywhere, which creates
entry points for moisture. Standard plywood is nearly
waterproof -- people have made bathtubs out of it, with
no finish to protect the wood.
> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>
> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find 100 year
> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>
> > Or is
> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>
> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same thing
> would happen.
>
> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
entry points for moisture. Standard plywood is nearly
waterproof -- people have made bathtubs out of it, with
no finish to protect the wood.
> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>
> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find 100 year
> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>
> > Or is
> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>
> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same thing
> would happen.
>
> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
Scout
Nov 20, 2012, 10:06:27 PM11/20/12
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I hate to tell you this, but wood is porous....there are entry points for
moisture ALL OVER IT. While plywood is somewhat more moisture resistant, any
persistent moisture will in time ruin both. However, if used properly
neither is exposed to excessive moisture so it's a moot point.
> Standard plywood is nearly
> waterproof --
No, standard plywood is water resistant, but so is OSB only not as much.
> people have made bathtubs out of it, with
> no finish to protect the wood.
BS.
A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish EITHER
would serve as a building material for tubs just as well. Plywood is chosen
because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the same
function.
So what point are you attempting to make here?
>> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>>
>> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find 100
>> year
>> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>>
>> > Or is
>> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>>
>> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same thing
>> would happen.
>>
>> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>
> You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
Leave what longer? A lack of point?
I think the lack of one has gone on long enough.
Seems to me it's being shown that man's use of trees is NOT an issue as long
as we maintain a healthy forest system.
Now, do you have anything else, or shall we call this thread dead and over
with?
moisture ALL OVER IT. While plywood is somewhat more moisture resistant, any
persistent moisture will in time ruin both. However, if used properly
neither is exposed to excessive moisture so it's a moot point.
> Standard plywood is nearly
> waterproof --
> people have made bathtubs out of it, with
> no finish to protect the wood.
A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish EITHER
would serve as a building material for tubs just as well. Plywood is chosen
because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the same
function.
So what point are you attempting to make here?
>> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>>
>> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find 100
>> year
>> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>>
>> > Or is
>> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>>
>> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same thing
>> would happen.
>>
>> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>
> You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
I think the lack of one has gone on long enough.
Seems to me it's being shown that man's use of trees is NOT an issue as long
as we maintain a healthy forest system.
Now, do you have anything else, or shall we call this thread dead and over
with?
Fred^44
Nov 21, 2012, 8:38:05 PM11/21/12
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Desertphile <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
>On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>>rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>>>3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>>>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>>>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>>>You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>>>rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>>>3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>>>> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>>>> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>>>> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>>>You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>population.
Watch what happens as the Siberian tundra thaws beyond the threshold
>into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>population.
level where isotropic pressures hold the methane-rich hydrates under
ground. Already we're seeing massive out-gassing which is reaching
European trees and getting taken-up in the tree's living fibers and
killing the trees.
When that shit thaws, all the millions who live on the tundra will be
finding themselves walking in 30-feet-deep swamps with heavier-than-air
methane chokeing them to death. BUT THAT'S NOT GLOBAL WARMING! Because
global warming is a myth, donchaknow.
Fred^44
Nov 21, 2012, 8:38:35 PM11/21/12
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>"Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
>"Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
>> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>> population.
>Then given the number of trees killed by humans through out the course of
>human history....we should all be dead now.
This is your IQ on Christianity. Lovely, isn't it?
>> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>> population.
>Then given the number of trees killed by humans through out the course of
>human history....we should all be dead now.
Fred^44
Nov 21, 2012, 8:42:38 PM11/21/12
to
linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>Desertphile wrote:
>> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>> population.
>That Solution sounds so Final, Herr Desertphile.
LOL, that's rich coming from a rightard. :) The consequences of over
>Desertphile wrote:
>> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>> population.
>That Solution sounds so Final, Herr Desertphile.
population and climate change are even more "Final" not only to the
HomoSapSap species but also to some 70% of the planet's species as a
whole, even if we cut CO2 emissions to zero right this second. It's
done. There's no stopping it.
You rightarded Christanic loons think that humans are some how special,
that your Republinazi delusional ideologies will some how stop the
inevitable consequences of Republicanism committed globally. Fact is,
the planet's eco-sphere is proving you rightarded buttfucks to be wrong.
Alan LeHun
Nov 21, 2012, 8:58:14 PM11/21/12
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In article <5bhla89t4i7bu670c...@4ax.com>,
Deser...@spammegmail.com says...
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere.
>
Carbon that is already part of the Carbon Cycle and therefore
irrelevant. It is fated to be released into the atmosphere anyway.
It is only fossil carbon that is now released into the Carbon Cycle that
matters.
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> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere.
>
irrelevant. It is fated to be released into the atmosphere anyway.
It is only fossil carbon that is now released into the Carbon Cycle that
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Father Haskell
Nov 21, 2012, 10:01:01 PM11/21/12
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On Nov 20, 10:06 pm, "Scout"
So what keeps the whiskey from leaking out of oak barrels?
> While plywood is somewhat more moisture resistant, any
> persistent moisture will in time ruin both. However, if used properly
> neither is exposed to excessive moisture so it's a moot point.
It's water resistant enough that it won't crumble the first
time it gets wet.
> > Standard plywood is nearly
> > waterproof --
>
> No, standard plywood is water resistant, but so is OSB only not as much.
>
> > people have made bathtubs out of it, with
> > no finish to protect the wood.
>
> BS.
Tell the Japanese. It's standard design for soaking tubs.
> A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish EITHER
> would serve as a building material for tubs just as well.
Nope. Just keep the tub full. Remember why you never
let the bilge on a boat go dry?
> Plywood is chosen
> because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the same
> function.
For its strength and stability, resulting from cross lamination.
It's also very economical to make, since the veneers are cut
with a rotary knife, which produces a smooth finish with zero
waste.
>
> So what point are you attempting to make here
>
> While plywood is somewhat more moisture resistant, any
> persistent moisture will in time ruin both. However, if used properly
> neither is exposed to excessive moisture so it's a moot point.
time it gets wet.
> > Standard plywood is nearly
> > waterproof --
>
> No, standard plywood is water resistant, but so is OSB only not as much.
>
> > people have made bathtubs out of it, with
> > no finish to protect the wood.
>
> BS.
> A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish EITHER
> would serve as a building material for tubs just as well.
let the bilge on a boat go dry?
> Plywood is chosen
> because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the same
> function.
It's also very economical to make, since the veneers are cut
with a rotary knife, which produces a smooth finish with zero
waste.
>
> So what point are you attempting to make here
>
> >> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>
> >> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find 100
> >> year
> >> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>
> >> > Or is
> >> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>
> >> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same thing
> >> would happen.
>
> >> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>
> > You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
>
> Leave what longer? A lack of point?
The tree.
>
> >> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find 100
> >> year
> >> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>
> >> > Or is
> >> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>
> >> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same thing
> >> would happen.
>
> >> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>
> > You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
>
> Leave what longer? A lack of point?
Scout
Nov 21, 2012, 10:41:35 PM11/21/12
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Well, shit if that's your criteria for 'water proof' then virtually
everything is 'water proof'.
Hell, we could even say that saltine crackers are 'water proof' by YOUR
silly standards.
>> > Standard plywood is nearly
>> > waterproof --
>>
>> No, standard plywood is water resistant, but so is OSB only not as much.
>>
>> > people have made bathtubs out of it, with
>> > no finish to protect the wood.
>>
>> BS.
>
> Tell the Japanese. It's standard design for soaking tubs.
Don't have to. If they use plywood, then it's sealed. If it's not sealed
then it's not plywood.
But I'm certainly willing to look at your cites for unsealed plywood
bathtubs. Somehow, I doubt they will be forth coming.
>> A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish
>> EITHER
>> would serve as a building material for tubs just as well.
>
> Nope. Just keep the tub full. Remember why you never
> let the bilge on a boat go dry?
>
>> Plywood is chosen
>> because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the
>> same
>> function.
>
> For its strength and stability, resulting from cross lamination.
OSB is also cross laminated.
Care to try a different excuse?
> It's also very economical to make, since the veneers are cut
> with a rotary knife, which produces a smooth finish with zero
> waste.
Except that it requires the use of more expensive large diameter wood stock
than OSB and thus the final product is more expensive as well.
Oh, and OSB has the same 'zero waste' as plywood.
>> So what point are you attempting to make here
>>
>> >> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>>
>> >> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find
>> >> 100
>> >> year
>> >> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>>
>> >> > Or is
>> >> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>>
>> >> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same
>> >> thing
>> >> would happen.
>>
>> >> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>>
>> > You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
>>
>> Leave what longer? A lack of point?
>
> The tree.
Why?
Whether the wood is in a tree or a home....the Carbon within it is still
removed from the environment until it rots, and it's likely to remain within
the home longer than it would within a tree.
>>> I think the lack of one has gone on long enough.
>>
>> Seems to me it's being shown that man's use of trees is NOT an issue as
>> long
>> as we maintain a healthy forest system.
>>
>> Now, do you have anything else, or shall we call this thread dead and
>> over
>> with?
>
I'll take that as a 'Yes, this thread is dead and over'.
everything is 'water proof'.
Hell, we could even say that saltine crackers are 'water proof' by YOUR
silly standards.
>> > Standard plywood is nearly
>> > waterproof --
>>
>> No, standard plywood is water resistant, but so is OSB only not as much.
>>
>> > people have made bathtubs out of it, with
>> > no finish to protect the wood.
>>
>> BS.
>
> Tell the Japanese. It's standard design for soaking tubs.
then it's not plywood.
But I'm certainly willing to look at your cites for unsealed plywood
bathtubs. Somehow, I doubt they will be forth coming.
>> A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish
>> EITHER
>> would serve as a building material for tubs just as well.
>
> Nope. Just keep the tub full. Remember why you never
> let the bilge on a boat go dry?
>
>> Plywood is chosen
>> because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the
>> same
>> function.
>
> For its strength and stability, resulting from cross lamination.
Care to try a different excuse?
> It's also very economical to make, since the veneers are cut
> with a rotary knife, which produces a smooth finish with zero
> waste.
than OSB and thus the final product is more expensive as well.
Oh, and OSB has the same 'zero waste' as plywood.
>> So what point are you attempting to make here
>>
>> >> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>>
>> >> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find
>> >> 100
>> >> year
>> >> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>>
>> >> > Or is
>> >> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>>
>> >> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same
>> >> thing
>> >> would happen.
>>
>> >> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>>
>> > You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
>>
>> Leave what longer? A lack of point?
>
> The tree.
Whether the wood is in a tree or a home....the Carbon within it is still
removed from the environment until it rots, and it's likely to remain within
the home longer than it would within a tree.
>>> I think the lack of one has gone on long enough.
>>
>> Seems to me it's being shown that man's use of trees is NOT an issue as
>> long
>> as we maintain a healthy forest system.
>>
>> Now, do you have anything else, or shall we call this thread dead and
>> over
>> with?
>
Gray Guest
Nov 22, 2012, 12:11:01 AM11/22/12
to
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:26:51 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44)
> wrote:
>
>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is
irrelevant.
>
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
You first. See how easy it is!
> wrote:
>
>> Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>> >rep...@scientology.org (Fred^44) wrote in news:BtGdnXZP0_7-
>> >3DjNnZ2dnU...@posted.sonicnet:
>> >> Climate change is a liberal Communist myth! The millions of dead
>> >> pine trees throughout the American Southwest were wiped out because
>> >> of homosexual marriage. Least that's what I read on line, LOL.
>
>> >You do realize that trees are not immortal?
>
>> You do realize that your Christian buttfuck rightardedness is
irrelevant.
>
> Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
> into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
> avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
> population.
Scout
Nov 22, 2012, 10:51:13 AM11/22/12
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It's not because the wood doesn't take in moisture.
You really do need to try to focus here.
>> While plywood is somewhat more moisture resistant, any
>> persistent moisture will in time ruin both. However, if used properly
>> neither is exposed to excessive moisture so it's a moot point.
>
> It's water resistant enough that it won't crumble the first
> time it gets wet.
Ah, so paper is water resistant and that automatically means I can use it
for applications in which prolonged exposure to water occurs......
... NOT
>> > Standard plywood is nearly
>> > waterproof --
>>
>> No, standard plywood is water resistant, but so is OSB only not as much.
>>
>> > people have made bathtubs out of it, with
>> > no finish to protect the wood.
>>
>> BS.
>
> Tell the Japanese. It's standard design for soaking tubs.
However those no finish soaking tubs aren't made of plywood. Why is that do
you suppose?
Is it because plywood won't stand up to prolonged exposure to water?
I bet it is.
However, the Japanese haven't made that claim. You have. It's BS. Now if you
wish to show me cites to an unfinished tub made of plywood, I'm all ears.
Otherwise, it remains that plywood is merely water resistant and can't be
used in such applications.
>> A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish
>> EITHER
>> would serve as a building material for tubs just as well.
>
> Nope. Just keep the tub full. Remember why you never
> let the bilge on a boat go dry?
Which would simply destroy the plywood that much faster.
Really, you need to remember there is a difference between WOOD and PLYWOOD.
One is not the same thing as the other, and both have different properties.
>> Plywood is chosen
>> because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the
>> same
>> function.
>
> For its strength and stability, resulting from cross lamination.
OSB also has cross lamination. So that's not it.
> It's also very economical to make,
OSB is more economical to make.
> since the veneers are cut
> with a rotary knife,
Well you mean other than the core of the large diameter old growth log from
which the veneers are cut. The fact that the core has to be a large diameter
log rather than the much smaller diameter logs that OSB uses.
>which produces a smooth finish
That a 'smooth finish' is purely relative, and that for any actual smooth
surface you would need to sand it.
>with zero
> waste.
BS.
In the veneer process above that you refer to, when the large diameter log
gets stripped down to a smaller diameter core....the core is removed and is
WASTE. Because the machine can no longer cut veneer from the smaller
diameter core that is left.
Then you have the wastes from the veneer clips, the panel trim, sander dust,
saw dust, etc.
Making plywood is not a zero waste process.
I will simply note that OSB produces less waste than making plywood but even
it still has waste.
>>
>> So what point are you attempting to make here
>>
>> >> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>>
>> >> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find
>> >> 100
>> >> year
>> >> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>>
>> >> > Or is
>> >> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>>
>> >> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same
>> >> thing
>> >> would happen.
>>
>> >> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>>
>> > You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
>>
>> Leave what longer? A lack of point?
>
> The tree.
Why? We need wood more than that tree. So what valid reason is there to
leave it.
Oh, and plywood is worse for the ecology than is OSB because plywood
requires the use of much older trees, while OSB can be readily made from
young growth trees raised for that specific purpose.
>>> I think the lack of one has gone on long enough.
>>
>> Seems to me it's being shown that man's use of trees is NOT an issue as
>> long
>> as we maintain a healthy forest system.
>>
>> Now, do you have anything else, or shall we call this thread dead and
>> over
>> with?
I suppose this means you're out of valid points for why we shouldn't engage
in reasonable harvesting of trees?
You really do need to try to focus here.
>> While plywood is somewhat more moisture resistant, any
>> persistent moisture will in time ruin both. However, if used properly
>> neither is exposed to excessive moisture so it's a moot point.
>
> It's water resistant enough that it won't crumble the first
> time it gets wet.
for applications in which prolonged exposure to water occurs......
... NOT
>> > Standard plywood is nearly
>> > waterproof --
>>
>> No, standard plywood is water resistant, but so is OSB only not as much.
>>
>> > people have made bathtubs out of it, with
>> > no finish to protect the wood.
>>
>> BS.
>
> Tell the Japanese. It's standard design for soaking tubs.
you suppose?
Is it because plywood won't stand up to prolonged exposure to water?
I bet it is.
However, the Japanese haven't made that claim. You have. It's BS. Now if you
wish to show me cites to an unfinished tub made of plywood, I'm all ears.
Otherwise, it remains that plywood is merely water resistant and can't be
used in such applications.
>> A waterproof finish would be mandatory, and with a waterproof finish
>> EITHER
>> would serve as a building material for tubs just as well.
>
> Nope. Just keep the tub full. Remember why you never
> let the bilge on a boat go dry?
Really, you need to remember there is a difference between WOOD and PLYWOOD.
One is not the same thing as the other, and both have different properties.
>> Plywood is chosen
>> because it's cosmetically appealing, not because OSB couldn't serve the
>> same
>> function.
>
> For its strength and stability, resulting from cross lamination.
> It's also very economical to make,
> since the veneers are cut
> with a rotary knife,
which the veneers are cut. The fact that the core has to be a large diameter
log rather than the much smaller diameter logs that OSB uses.
>which produces a smooth finish
surface you would need to sand it.
>with zero
> waste.
BS.
In the veneer process above that you refer to, when the large diameter log
gets stripped down to a smaller diameter core....the core is removed and is
WASTE. Because the machine can no longer cut veneer from the smaller
diameter core that is left.
Then you have the wastes from the veneer clips, the panel trim, sander dust,
saw dust, etc.
Making plywood is not a zero waste process.
I will simply note that OSB produces less waste than making plywood but even
it still has waste.
>>
>> So what point are you attempting to make here
>>
>> >> >Does the carbon stay locked up?
>>
>> >> Sure, a landfill is a pretty good sequester cite given you can find
>> >> 100
>> >> year
>> >> old newspapers buried in the older ones.
>>
>> >> > Or is
>> >> > transformed into methane via the miracle of termite farts?
>>
>> >> Some of it is...but as a tree that has died in the woods, the same
>> >> thing
>> >> would happen.
>>
>> >> So again...what point are you attempting to make?
>>
>> > You wouldn't want to leave it longer?
>>
>> Leave what longer? A lack of point?
>
> The tree.
leave it.
Oh, and plywood is worse for the ecology than is OSB because plywood
requires the use of much older trees, while OSB can be readily made from
young growth trees raised for that specific purpose.
>>> I think the lack of one has gone on long enough.
>>
>> Seems to me it's being shown that man's use of trees is NOT an issue as
>> long
>> as we maintain a healthy forest system.
>>
>> Now, do you have anything else, or shall we call this thread dead and
>> over
>> with?
in reasonable harvesting of trees?
linuxgal
Nov 22, 2012, 2:31:03 PM11/22/12
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Fred^44 wrote:
> linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> >Desertphile wrote:
>>> >>Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>>> >>into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>>> >>avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>>> >>population.
>> >That Solution sounds so Final, Herr Desertphile.
> LOL, that's rich coming from a rightard.:) The consequences of over
> population and climate change are even more "Final" not only to the
> HomoSapSap species but also to some 70% of the planet's species as a
> whole, even if we cut CO2 emissions to zero right this second. It's
> done. There's no stopping it.
So that's it then. We're doomed. Part of conforming to Tao is not to
> linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> >Desertphile wrote:
>>> >>Every tree that dies due to human activities means more CO2 released
>>> >>into the atmosphere. The problem is that humans need to burn trees to
>>> >>avoid freezing to death. The solution is to decrease the human
>>> >>population.
>> >That Solution sounds so Final, Herr Desertphile.
> LOL, that's rich coming from a rightard.:) The consequences of over
> population and climate change are even more "Final" not only to the
> HomoSapSap species but also to some 70% of the planet's species as a
> whole, even if we cut CO2 emissions to zero right this second. It's
> done. There's no stopping it.
worry about things one cannot change. Might as well go down Gangman Style.
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