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On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:38:20 -0800, Christopher A. FLee whined:

>Hardly recent - he's been pushing his in-your-face stupid rudeness
>since the mid 1990s.  His first unprovoked, arrogantly nasty responses
>in alt.atheism were in January 1996.

"Undeniably, the fossil record has provided disappointingly few
gradual series. The origins of many groups are still not documented at
all." (Futuyma, D., Science on Trial: The Case for Evolution)

"There is still a tremendous problem with the sudden diversification
of multi-cellular life.  There is no question about that. That's a
real phenomenon."  (Niles Eldredge, quoted in Darwin's Enigma: Fossils
and Other Problems by Luther D. Sunderland, Master Book Publishers,
Santee, California)

"Whatever ideas authorities may have on the subject, the lungfishes,
like every other major group of fishes that I know, have their origins
firmly based in nothing." (Quoted in W. R. Bird, _The Origin of
Species Revisited_[Nashville: Regency, 1991; originally published by
Philosophical Library)

"The main problem with such phyletic gradualism is that the fossil
record provides so little evidence for it. Very rarely can we trace
the gradual transformation of one entire species into another through
a finely graded sequence of intermediary forms."  (Gould, S.J. Luria,
S.E. & Singer, S., A View of Life)

"It should come as no surprise that it would be extremely difficult to
find a specific fossil species that is both intermediate in morphology
between two other taxa and is also in the appropriate stratigraphic
position." (Cracraft, J., "Systematics, Comparative Biology, and the
Case Against Creationism," )

"Most families, orders, classes, and phyla appear rather suddenly in
the fossil record, often without anatomically intermediate forms
smoothly interlinking evolutionarily derived descendant taxa with
their presumed ancestors." (Eldredge, N., Macro-Evolutionary Dynamics:
Species, Niches, and Adaptive Peaks, McGraw-Hill Publishing Company,
New York)

"Species that were once thought to have turned into others have been
found to overlap in time with these alleged descendants. In fact, the
fossil record does not convincingly document a single transition from
one species to another." (Stanley, S.M., The New Evolutionary
Timetable: Fossils, Genes, and the Origin of Species)

"Many fossils have been collected since 1859, tons of them, yet the
impact they have had on our understanding of the relationships between
living organisms is barely perceptible. ...In fact, I do not think it
unfair to say that fossils, or at least the traditional interpretation
of fossils, have clouded rather than clarified our attempts to
reconstruct phylogeny." (Fortey, P. L., "Neontological Analysis Versus
Palaeontological Stores,")

"Indeed, it is the chief frustration of the fossil record that we do
not have empirical evidence for sustained trends in the evolution of
most complex morphological adaptations."  (Gould, Stephen J. and
Eldredge, Niles, "Species Selection: Its Range and Power," )


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