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Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 27, 2012, 2:12:14 AM5/27/12
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Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this. End of discussion. But
some of you pop athiests and fox Christians spell his name with a lowercase
"G." This is a sin and crime against God and will be dealt with accordingly.
And I will be laughing at your disaster, and deriving tremendous power from
your cries and screams of the damned.

Catpain 'Merca

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"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
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> Jesus Christ is God.
So you're quite happy that Jesus raped his mom?

Catpain 'Merca
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Zacharias Mulletstein

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"Catpain 'Merca" <catpai...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
> news:jpsgk1$943$1...@dont-email.me:
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>> Jesus Christ is God.
> So you're quite happy that Jesus raped his mom?

I didn't have to rape your mom.

Catpain 'Merca

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"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
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I couldn't stomach having sex with your mom, besides she wouldn't take her
snout out of the swill trough to give me a blow job.

Catpain 'Merca
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Uncle Vic

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May 27, 2012, 2:18:15 PM5/27/12
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"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
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> Jesus Christ is God.

No, he's Batman.

Nahhh, Jesus is too lame to be Batman.

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duke

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May 27, 2012, 3:04:25 PM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:

>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.

So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.

>End of discussion.

You stopped short.

>But some of you pop athiests and fox Christians spell his name with a lowercase
>"G." This is a sin and crime against God and will be dealt with accordingly.

It's human to capitalize it. God is not concerned.

>And I will be laughing at your disaster, and deriving tremendous power from
>your cries and screams of the damned.

Satan loves you.

duke - American American

*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 27, 2012, 3:21:32 PM5/27/12
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>
> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.

One God, three forms. Is that hard to understand? Not three separate guys,
The Bible is very clear on this.



L.Roberts

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May 27, 2012, 3:33:55 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 3:04 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>
> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>
> >End of discussion.
>
> You stopped short.
>
> >But some of you pop athiests and fox Christians spell his name with a lowercase
> >"G." This is a sin and crime against God and will be dealt with accordingly.
>
> It's human to capitalize it.  God is not concerned.
>
> >And I will be laughing at your disaster, and deriving tremendous power from
> >your cries and screams of the damned.
>
> Satan loves you.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****

If there were any truth to any of that bullshit then the Satan
character played and should be credited for the very prominent role he
played in God's Plan For Salvation. The reason I say this is that if
he hadn't entered Judas' body (in spirit) and forced Judas to the
dirty deed, then Jesus' prophecy would have failed and the whole
scheme would have fallen apart. One can only speculate why Satan was
given, and accepted, such a prominent role.

If Judas had acted on his own (which the Bible tells us he didn't)
then we also need to conclude from his willingness to do his Masters
bidding, that he and he alone died the eternal death that we might
have salvation. Huh, and that bastard Jesus had the nerve to make
lightly of Judas gesture and denounce him as a villain. Again, one of
the twelve had to do the dirty deed or all of Jesus' bullshit would
have fallen apart.

Hannele

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May 27, 2012, 4:16:39 PM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:15 +0200, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

> "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
> news:jpsgk1$943$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> Jesus Christ is God.
>
> No, he's Batman.
>
> Nahhh, Jesus is too lame to be Batman.
>
Batman can totally kick Jesus' ass, but Jesus it the better cook. You
should see what he can do with some leftover bread and fish and some plain
water!


--
Hannele, A.A #2211

There are at least as many gods as there are believers.

Father Haskell

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May 27, 2012, 4:41:12 PM5/27/12
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On May 27, 2:12 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
A real god wouldn't throw a shit fit over something so petty as
capitalization.

duke

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May 27, 2012, 6:57:51 PM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:21:32 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:

>
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:iiu4s7927i7p1p7em...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>>
>> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>
>One God, three forms. Is that hard to understand? Not three separate guys,
>The Bible is very clear on this.

And the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God with Jesus also. Is that so hard
to understand? The Holy Trinity was revealed by Jesus 1600 years before you
pente's came along.

linuxgal

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May 27, 2012, 8:26:02 PM5/27/12
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duke wrote:
>
> And the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God with Jesus also. Is that so hard
> to understand? The Holy Trinity was revealed by Jesus 1600 years before you
> pente's came along.

Sure, that's why Athanasius barely won out over Arius.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 27, 2012, 11:12:55 PM5/27/12
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:21:32 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:iiu4s7927i7p1p7em...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>>>
>>> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>>
>>One God, three forms. Is that hard to understand? Not three separate
>>guys,
>>The Bible is very clear on this.
>
> And the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God with Jesus also. Is that
> so hard
> to understand? The Holy Trinity was revealed by Jesus 1600 years before
> you
> pente's came along.

They're the SAME GUY. And the Oneness doctrine came out 2000 years ago.
You guys were 300 years too late.

duke

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May 28, 2012, 7:22:04 AM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 22:12:55 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:

>
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:c8c5s7piu6g0t97se...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:21:32 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:iiu4s7927i7p1p7em...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>>>>
>>>> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>>>
>>>One God, three forms. Is that hard to understand? Not three separate
>>>guys,
>>>The Bible is very clear on this.
>>
>> And the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God with Jesus also. Is that
>> so hard
>> to understand? The Holy Trinity was revealed by Jesus 1600 years before
>> you
>> pente's came along.
>
>They're the SAME GUY. And the Oneness doctrine came out 2000 years ago.
>You guys were 300 years too late.

God is not a guy. God is one in 3 persons - Father, Son, Holy Spirit. The
Father is not the Son is not the Holy Spirit is not the Father. Basic
Christianity for the last 2000 years as revealed by Jesus Christ.

duke

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May 28, 2012, 7:37:05 AM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:33:55 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On May 27, 3:04 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>
>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> >Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>>
>> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>>
>> >End of discussion.
>>
>> You stopped short.
>>
>> >But some of you pop athiests and fox Christians spell his name with a lowercase
>> >"G." This is a sin and crime against God and will be dealt with accordingly.
>>
>> It's human to capitalize it.  God is not concerned.
>>
>> >And I will be laughing at your disaster, and deriving tremendous power from
>> >your cries and screams of the damned.
>>
>> Satan loves you.

>If there were any truth to any of that bullshit then the Satan
>character played and should be credited for the very prominent role he
>played in God's Plan For Salvation.

Wow, you probably have no clue as to how true that is.

> The reason I say this is that if
>he hadn't entered Judas' body (in spirit) and forced Judas to the
>dirty deed, then Jesus' prophecy would have failed and the whole
>scheme would have fallen apart. One can only speculate why Satan was
>given, and accepted, such a prominent role.

No, lr. It's all one story. Not an "if" here or an "if" there.

God could have picked a rhino or a banana tree or a Martian for his chosen.
Instead he picked us human beings. Now the key is that God knew we had a evil
streak from the get-go. That ingrained evil is satan himself at work in us.
It's in our hearts and will only go away if we chose to overcome it. God called
us to overcome evil.

And so God became flesh (Jesus) specifically to show other flesh (us) the way to
eternal salvation via love and obedience to God rather than to ourselves and our
own desire for the things of the flesh. Jesus showed us what we actually can't
overcome but we must repent and try.

>If Judas had acted on his own (which the Bible tells us he didn't)
>then we also need to conclude from his willingness to do his Masters
>bidding, that he and he alone died the eternal death that we might
>have salvation. Huh, and that bastard Jesus had the nerve to make
>lightly of Judas gesture and denounce him as a villain. Again, one of
>the twelve had to do the dirty deed or all of Jesus' bullshit would
>have fallen apart.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 28, 2012, 4:08:52 PM5/28/12
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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So God has one head and three bodies? No wonder He has to fly, because it
would be impossible to walk like that.

L.Roberts

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May 28, 2012, 4:42:03 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 7:37 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 12:33:55 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzcat2...@yahoo.com>
> *****- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Let's look at Judas again. He held the money bags for the group with a
leader that people everywhere would have handed money to. It's easy
enough to see from what we are told that he stood to rake in a fuck of
a lot more than thirty pieces of silver by staying right where he was,
so greed, as we are prodded to think, could hardly have been a
motivation for betraying the Jesus character. Jesus, if he was, was a
Charlie Manson of sorts who leaned on Judas' to do that part. Lots of
people like to hate Judas, but if he hadn't done what Jesus clearly
indicated to him was up to him to do then the story would have
progressed a bit differently from there, for one thing, Jesus' bs
about the bretrayal would have been seen by all of his followers to be
false and the whole thing probably would have collapsed right then and
there.

The Satan character, as I have always understood the story, is
presented, not as a bad element of the human mind, but as an entity,
like we, or the god character are entities. Which, if that is so, and
he can enter a human psyche and there's nothing a human can do about
it, then why should a human, such as Judas, be blamed for whatever the
bastard causes them to do. Kind of like when 'god hardened Pharaohs
heart..., why in the fuck should Pharaoh, and his people, who had no
choice but to obey his orders, be punished. The god character just
seems like some sort of a bastardly fuckhead, good thing that fucking
thing isn't for real.

MelissA

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May 28, 2012, 5:01:47 PM5/28/12
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Problem with betrayal story is that Jesus was famous preacher, publicly
available. In order to be betrayed he has to be rebellion leader, hiding
somewhere secretly and no one could recognize him except inner circle
of rebels?
No need to pay anything or to betray, in order to catch Jesus as
depicted in Bible.


L.Roberts

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May 28, 2012, 5:10:17 PM5/28/12
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> depicted in Bible.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, that is another aspect of the 'betrayal' which has crossed my
mind before. According to the story he was pretty much always easy
enough to keep tabs on.

Father Haskell

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May 28, 2012, 8:18:32 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 4:08 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:8on6s7dehf27v4ajc...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 27 May 2012 22:12:55 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
> >>"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>news:c8c5s7piu6g0t97se...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:21:32 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> >>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:iiu4s7927i7p1p7em...@4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> >>>>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>
> >>>>> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>
> >>>>One God, three forms.  Is that hard to understand?  Not three separate
> >>>>guys,
> >>>>The Bible is very clear on this.
>
> >>> And the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God with Jesus also.  Is that
> >>> so hard
> >>> to understand?  The Holy Trinity was revealed by Jesus 1600 years before
> >>> you
> >>> pente's came along.
>
> >>They're the SAME GUY.  And the Oneness doctrine came out 2000 years ago.
> >>You guys were 300 years too late.
>
> > God is not a guy.  God is one in 3 persons - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
> > The
> > Father is not the Son is not the Holy Spirit is not the Father.   Basic
> > Christianity for the last 2000 years as revealed by Jesus Christ.
>
> So God has one head and three bodies?  No wonder He has to fly, because it
> would be impossible to walk like that.

The bodies all take turns. It actually works out quite well.

duke

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May 29, 2012, 7:31:05 AM5/29/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 15:08:52 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.

HVAC

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May 29, 2012, 7:33:33 AM5/29/12
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On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>
> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.


As opposed to the Jewish god?




















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duke

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May 29, 2012, 7:37:33 AM5/29/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:42:03 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Let's look at Judas again. He held the money bags for the group with a
>leader that people everywhere would have handed money to. It's easy
>enough to see from what we are told that he stood to rake in a fuck of
>a lot more than thirty pieces of silver by staying right where he was,
>so greed, as we are prodded to think, could hardly have been a
>motivation for betraying the Jesus character.

Nobody knows for sure what his motive was.

> Jesus, if he was, was a
>Charlie Manson of sorts who leaned on Judas' to do that part.

Believe me, Jesus was no charlie manson.

> Lots of
>people like to hate Judas, but if he hadn't done what Jesus clearly
>indicated to him was up to him to do then the story would have
>progressed a bit differently from there, for one thing, Jesus' bs
>about the bretrayal would have been seen by all of his followers to be
>false and the whole thing probably would have collapsed right then and
>there.

Are you going to say something to consider?

>The Satan character, as I have always understood the story,

That could be your 1st major mistake

>is presented, not as a bad element of the human mind, but as an entity,
>like we, or the god character are entities. Which, if that is so, and
>he can enter a human psyche and there's nothing a human can do about
>it, then why should a human, such as Judas, be blamed for whatever the
>bastard causes them to do. Kind of like when 'god hardened Pharaohs
>heart..., why in the fuck should Pharaoh, and his people, who had no
>choice but to obey his orders, be punished. The god character just
>seems like some sort of a bastardly fuckhead, good thing that fucking
>thing isn't for real.

Well, after all is said and done, you certainly had nothing of intelligence to
offer.

duke

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May 29, 2012, 7:39:12 AM5/29/12
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Pretty much conflicts with your point about being a famous teacher.

duke

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May 29, 2012, 7:39:51 AM5/29/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:10:17 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
A predator drone make it very easy.

Uncle Vic

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Hannele <han...@lycos.nl> wrote in
news:op.wezg9...@laptophannele.lan:

> On Sun, 27 May 2012 20:18:15 +0200, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:
>
>> "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com>
>> wrote in news:jpsgk1$943$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Jesus Christ is God.
>>
>> No, he's Batman.
>>
>> Nahhh, Jesus is too lame to be Batman.
>>
> Batman can totally kick Jesus' ass, but Jesus it the better cook. You
> should see what he can do with some leftover bread and fish and some
> plain water!
>
>

Even whilst Daddums was teaching him to cook shit...

Uncle Vic

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
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> On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:21:32 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:iiu4s7927i7p1p7em...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>>>
>>> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>>
>>One God, three forms. Is that hard to understand? Not three separate
>>guys, The Bible is very clear on this.
>
> And the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God with Jesus also. Is
> that so hard to understand?

It's easy to understand if you're willing to accept anything you're told.
Like 1+1+1=1.

Uncle Vic

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May 29, 2012, 12:10:52 PM5/29/12
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:4vn6s7pibpa69lcb8...@4ax.com:

>>If there were any truth to any of that bullshit then the Satan
>>character played and should be credited for the very prominent role he
>>played in God's Plan For Salvation.
>
> Wow, you probably have no clue as to how true that is.

Right. Yours is true. Hahahahaha!

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 29, 2012, 1:28:11 PM5/29/12
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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The Christian God is One, His name is Jesus Christ. He has 3 forms: human,
spirit, God. This trinity "godhead" nonsense is not in the Bible.

duke

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On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:

>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>As opposed to the Jewish god?

Same one.

duke

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May 30, 2012, 7:09:41 AM5/30/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:28:11 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
Your's is falsified Christianity. Father, Son, Holy Spirit is the true
relationship.

duke

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May 30, 2012, 7:10:26 AM5/30/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:05:35 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:c8c5s7piu6g0t97se...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:21:32 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:iiu4s7927i7p1p7em...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 27 May 2012 01:12:14 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Jesus Christ is God. There is no question of this.
>>>>
>>>> So is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
>>>
>>>One God, three forms. Is that hard to understand? Not three separate
>>>guys, The Bible is very clear on this.
>>
>> And the Father and the Holy Spirit are one God with Jesus also. Is
>> that so hard to understand?
>
>It's easy to understand if you're willing to accept anything you're told.
>Like 1+1+1=1.

God said it. I believe it. If you want some screwball relationship, talk to
mullet.

duke

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May 30, 2012, 7:10:59 AM5/30/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:10:52 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:4vn6s7pibpa69lcb8...@4ax.com:
>
>>>If there were any truth to any of that bullshit then the Satan
>>>character played and should be credited for the very prominent role he
>>>played in God's Plan For Salvation.
>>
>> Wow, you probably have no clue as to how true that is.
>
>Right. Yours is true. Hahahahaha!

Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.

HVAC

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May 30, 2012, 8:00:14 AM5/30/12
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On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>
>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>
> Same one.


And the muslum god?

HVAC

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On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>
> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.


So satan isn't a real character?

L.Roberts

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That's what I was wondering about since the bible kinda makes him out
to some kind of entity, a lesser spook created and oppressed by a
greater spook. If what dumbass says is so, then there was no devil
tempting Jesus, just his own evil nature trying to make much ado about
what was clearly nothing.

duke

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>
>> Same one.

>And the muslum god?

The same one also.

duke

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.

>So satan isn't a real character?

Probably not.

duke

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 07:39:50 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The presentation of satan is as a fallen angel. If one wishes to view said
fallen angel as an entity, so be it. But the truth is that the evil that lives
in your heart is the satan. So be it yourself or an outsider, the result is the
same.

HVAC

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May 30, 2012, 1:39:19 PM5/30/12
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On 5/30/2012 1:19 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>>
>>> Same one.
>
>> And the muslum god?
>
> The same one also.


So there ya go, Duke...You're a muslum.
Be sure to face towards Mecca when you pray to allah.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4svbs799ocv226pjm...@4ax.com...
It's not literal, you idiot. Father = Jesus Christ, Son = Jesus Christ,
Holy Ghost = Jesus Christ. There is no question of this.

Father Haskell

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On May 30, 1:19 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
> >> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
> >>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>
> >> Same one.
> >And the muslum god?
>
> The same one also.
>
> duke - American American

So why does he encourage his christian, jewish, and
muslim children to fight each other? He sounds
like an unfit father.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 30, 2012, 4:11:21 PM5/30/12
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>
>>So satan isn't a real character?
>
> Probably not.

Then you're not a real Christian. The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that Satan
is a real being and an evil entity. And he was accidently created by Jesus
Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong. He created Satan to be nearly as
powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult to defeat him, but He can do
it.

MelissA

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May 30, 2012, 4:19:21 PM5/30/12
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Sound like fairy tale or video game...

HVAC

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May 30, 2012, 4:35:06 PM5/30/12
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On 5/30/2012 3:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
>
>>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>
>>>> Same one.
>>> And the muslum god?
>>
>> The same one also.
>>
>> duke - American American
>
> So why does he encourage his christian, jewish, and
> muslim children to fight each other? He sounds
> like an unfit father.


Duke's a father? I though he was gay?

HVAC

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On 5/30/2012 4:19 PM, MelissA wrote:
>
>> Then you're not a real Christian. The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that
>> Satan is a real being and an evil entity. And he was accidently
>> created by Jesus Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong. He created
>> Satan to be nearly as powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult
>> to defeat him, but He can do it.
>>
>
> Sound like fairy tale or video game...


Diablo?

Seth lePod

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May 30, 2012, 8:39:56 PM5/30/12
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Bored. Bored silly. Bored out of his hoary
gourd.

I mean, have you ever heard anything about this
"heaven" of theirs that would make you spend more
than a weekend there? I have repeatedly asked
Christians to describe what they're looking
forward to, and not one has ever come up with an
answer. Sounds like an eternity trapped in an
airport terminal.

And then there's that "Holy, holy, holy is the
Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to
come" being chanted night and day and night and
day and night and day and night and day forever
and ever and ever.

Dude, that is even worse than death by accordion.

Seriously, oblivion is by far the merciful
altarnative.


Seth

L.Roberts

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May 30, 2012, 9:42:32 PM5/30/12
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On May 30, 4:11 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>
> >>So satan isn't a real character?
>
> > Probably not.
>
> Then you're not a real Christian.  The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that Satan
> is a real being and an evil entity.  And he was accidently created by Jesus
> Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.  He created Satan to be nearly as
> powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult to defeat him, but He can do
> it.

http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snake-bite-173406645--abc-news-topstories.html

Pastor picks up Satan and pays the ultimate penalty. LOL,
Pentacostalists, dumbest bastard out there.

Father Haskell

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May 30, 2012, 10:07:04 PM5/30/12
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At the airport terminal, at least I can hunt down a
sticky bun and a really good cup of espresso.

Father Haskell

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On May 29, 1:28 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:

> The Christian God is One, His name is Jesus Christ.  He has 3 forms:

Fiction, lies, and bullshit.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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"L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0104016f-2f6c-4535...@fr28g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
Those are fox Pentecostals. Real Pentecostals stay away from snakes. We
prefer lizards and baby alligators.

L.Roberts

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May 30, 2012, 11:50:11 PM5/30/12
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On May 30, 10:58 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "L.Roberts" <ozzcat2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0104016f-2f6c-4535...@fr28g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 30, 4:11 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >> "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> >>news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
>
> >> > On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >> >>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>
> >> >>So satan isn't a real character?
>
> >> > Probably not.
>
> >> Then you're not a real Christian.  The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that
> >> Satan
> >> is a real being and an evil entity.  And he was accidently created by
> >> Jesus
> >> Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.  He created Satan to be nearly as
> >> powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult to defeat him, but He can
> >> do
> >> it.
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snak...
>
> > Pastor picks up Satan and pays the ultimate penalty. LOL,
> > Pentacostalists, dumbest bastard out there.
>
> Those are fox Pentecostals.  Real Pentecostals stay away from snakes.  We
> prefer lizards and baby alligators.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I had a sunday school teacher when I was about eight who was expelled
from the church. The (Pentacostalist) Pastor came into the Sunday
Evening service visibly quite shook and said that he'd "Come face to
face with the Devil", oh but he faced the Devil down, he did. I
remember having liked her. I'll bet she knew just exactly what an
ignorant bastard that ignorant bastard was and told him so in no
uncertain terms. Wish he'd have kicked me out too at about the same
time and spared me from another six years of his bullshit.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:41:37 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 13:39:19 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/30/2012 1:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>>>
>>>> Same one.
>>
>>> And the muslum god?
>>
>> The same one also.

>So there ya go, Duke...You're a muslum.
>Be sure to face towards Mecca when you pray to allah.

Zoooom, right over your head.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:42:55 AM5/31/12
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God doesn't. Man is the problem. And Christians alone live by the principle of
"love one another as Jesus loves us". Jews and muslims don't play.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:43:27 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:35:06 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/30/2012 3:52 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>>
>>>>> Same one.
>>>> And the muslum god?
>>>
>>> The same one also.
>>>
>>> duke - American American
>>
>> So why does he encourage his christian, jewish, and
>> muslim children to fight each other? He sounds
>> like an unfit father.

>Duke's a father? I though he was gay?

I'm not your style.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:45:20 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:39:56 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On May 30, 12:52 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On May 30, 1:19 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
>> > >> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> > >>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>> > >>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>> > >>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>
>> > >> Same one.
>> > >And the muslum god?
>>
>> > The same one also.

>> So why does he encourage his christian, jewish, and
>> muslim children to fight each other? He sounds
>> like an unfit father.

>Bored. Bored silly. Bored out of his hoary
>gourd.

>I mean, have you ever heard anything about this
>"heaven" of theirs that would make you spend more
>than a weekend there? I have repeatedly asked
>Christians to describe what they're looking
>forward to, and not one has ever come up with an
>answer. Sounds like an eternity trapped in an
>airport terminal.

So what are you looking for? Or don't you realize there are only 2 choices to
pursue.

>And then there's that "Holy, holy, holy is the
>Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to
>come" being chanted night and day and night and
>day and night and day and night and day forever
>and ever and ever.
>Dude, that is even worse than death by accordion.

>Seriously, oblivion is by far the merciful
>altarnative.
>Seth

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:46:10 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:55:00 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
Yes, there is. That's all contrary to the bible.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:56:24 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 15:11:21 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:

>
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>>
>>>So satan isn't a real character?
>>
>> Probably not.
>
>Then you're not a real Christian. The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that Satan
>is a real being and an evil entity.

So show me where the bible is ABSOLUTELY clear on that issue. We know the
bible is absolutely clear that Jesus was a man, but satan, that's a new one.

>And he was accidently created by Jesus Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.
> He created Satan to be nearly as powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult
> to defeat him, but He can do it.

You're a real wacko, mullet. I recommend you go buy a bible and read it.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:57:19 AM5/31/12
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Well, you wrote it, not me.

duke

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On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:42:32 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Yep, that's mullet for you.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 7:59:07 AM5/31/12
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So you're a fake pente?

Ivan I. Deer

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May 31, 2012, 7:59:24 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>
>> Same one.
>
>
>And the muslum god?
>
The Muslim Allah is one and the same as Satan who deceived Adam and
Eve.

Antares 531

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May 31, 2012, 8:03:48 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:52:08 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Satan is in the driver's seat, here. We are along for the ride as a
learning process that is expected to mature us to a level of
reliability that will make it prudent for God to grant us immortality
and absolute sovereignty. Review the first two chapters of the book of
Job. Contemplate the information as allegory that reveals to us the
on-going process that we are participating in.

HVAC

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Not according to Duke.

L.Roberts

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May 31, 2012, 9:16:49 AM5/31/12
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On May 31, 7:56 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 15:11:21 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>
>
>
>
>
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
> >"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >>>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>
> >>>So satan isn't a real character?
>
> >> Probably not.
>
> >Then you're not a real Christian.  The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that Satan
> >is a real being and an evil entity.
>
> So show me where the bible is ABSOLUTELY  clear on that issue.  We know the
> bible is absolutely clear that Jesus was a man, but satan, that's a new one.
>
> >And he was accidently created by Jesus Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.
> > He created Satan to be nearly as powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult
> > to defeat him, but He can do it.
>
> You're a real wacko, mullet.  I recommend you go buy a bible and read it.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL, he's slinging bs, dumbass, you are probably, well, you and Joe
Bruno, the only dumbasses who don't know it.

Don Martin

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HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/31/2012 7:59 AM, Ivan I. Deer wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>>>
>>>> Same one.
>>>
>>>
>>> And the muslum god?
>>>
>> The Muslim Allah is one and the same as Satan who deceived Adam and
>> Eve.
>
> Not according to Duke.

One pixie is so very like another that it is easy to get them confused.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

HVAC

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May 31, 2012, 10:49:35 AM5/31/12
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On 5/31/2012 10:19 AM, Don Martin wrote:
>
>>>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>>>>
>>>>> Same one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the muslum god?
>>>>
>>> The Muslim Allah is one and the same as Satan who deceived Adam and
>>> Eve.
>>
>> Not according to Duke.
>
> One pixie is so very like another that it is easy to get them confused.


Which only points up the foolishness of religious wars.
They aren't fighting over who's god is real..They fight
over which flavor of god is preferred.

duke

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May 31, 2012, 5:57:57 PM5/31/12
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 06:16:49 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On May 31, 7:56 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 15:11:21 -0500, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>>
>> >>>So satan isn't a real character?
>>
>> >> Probably not.
>>
>> >Then you're not a real Christian.  The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that Satan
>> >is a real being and an evil entity.
>>
>> So show me where the bible is ABSOLUTELY  clear on that issue.  We know the
>> bible is absolutely clear that Jesus was a man, but satan, that's a new one.
>>
>> >And he was accidently created by Jesus Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.
>> > He created Satan to be nearly as powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult
>> > to defeat him, but He can do it.
>>
>> You're a real wacko, mullet.  I recommend you go buy a bible and read it.

>LOL, he's slinging bs, dumbass, you are probably, well, you and Joe
>Bruno, the only dumbasses who don't know it.

Sorry, dude, but I am most happy with my position, seeing you can't make so much
as a dent based on why you apparently believe what you do without evidence.

L.Roberts

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May 31, 2012, 6:14:30 PM5/31/12
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On May 31, 5:57 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 06:16:49 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzcat2...@yahoo.com>
> *****- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

actually I think you are phenomenal, stick around, you make a half
decent subject for a case study

Seth lePod

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May 31, 2012, 8:34:30 PM5/31/12
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On May 31, 4:45 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:39:56 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On May 30, 12:52 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On May 30, 1:19 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
> >> > >> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >> > >>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >> > >>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
> >> > >>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>
> >> > >> Same one.
> >> > >And the muslum god?
>
> >> > The same one also.
> >> So why does he encourage his christian, jewish, and
> >> muslim children to fight each other?  He sounds
> >> like an unfit father.
> >Bored.  Bored silly.  Bored out of his hoary
> >gourd.
> >I mean, have you ever heard anything about this
> >"heaven" of theirs that would make you spend more
> >than a weekend there?  I have repeatedly asked
> >Christians to describe what they're looking
> >forward to, and not one has ever come up with an
> >answer.  Sounds like an eternity trapped in an
> >airport terminal.
>
:
> >I mean, have you ever heard anything about this
> >"heaven" of theirs that would make you spend more
> >than a weekend there? I have repeatedly asked
> >Christians to describe what they're looking
> >forward to, and not one has ever come up with an
> >answer. Sounds like an eternity trapped in an
> >airport terminal.

:
> So what are you looking for? Or don't you realize there are only 2 choices to
> pursue.

Dude, you are SO close!

Only off by one.


And so you admit that the only reason one you can
think of to want to spend an endelssly tediuous
eternity in heaven is "Well, at least it isn't
hell"?

I guess I'll have to add you to the list of
Christians who were puzzlingly unable to give me a
single reason they were looking forward to heaven.

Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg

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May 31, 2012, 9:15:26 PM5/31/12
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In article <a5c214c0-80f3-44fd...@tx6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > So what are you looking for? Or don't you realize there are only 2 choices
> > to
> > pursue.
>
> Dude, you are SO close!
>
> Only off by one.
>
>
> And so you admit that the only reason one you can
> think of to want to spend an endelssly tediuous
> eternity in heaven is "Well, at least it isn't
> hell"?

There is no heaven or hell. When you die you're dead and gone. We serve the
god-to-be while we live. After we die others will take our place in service.

--
Aren't you special. Tell me your problems.

Olrik

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Le 2012-05-31 08:03, Antares 531 a écrit :
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 12:52:08 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 30, 1:19 pm, duke<duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>>
>>>>> Same one.
>>>> And the muslum god?
>>>
>>> The same one also.
>>>
>>> duke - American American
>>
>> So why does he encourage his christian, jewish, and
>> muslim children to fight each other? He sounds
>> like an unfit father.
>>
> Satan is in the driver's seat

So your «god» is pretty much impotent. Duly noted.

duke

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On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:34:30 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Oh, you must be talking about the triune Godhead - the Father is not the Son is
not the Holy Spirit is not the Father. I thought you were talking about heaven
or hell.

Heeheehe.

>And so you admit that the only reason one you can
>think of to want to spend an endelssly tediuous
>eternity in heaven is "Well, at least it isn't
>hell"?

Strawman.

>I guess I'll have to add you to the list of
>Christians who were puzzlingly unable to give me a
>single reason they were looking forward to heaven.

1. Eternal love with God in Heaven.
2. Salvation from the fires of Hell.

So you don't have any yourself!!! Interesting.

duke

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Pagan.

duke

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On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:14:30 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>actually I think you are phenomenal, stick around, you make a half
>decent subject for a case study

Well, that's wonderful. So they keep you in a jar of formaldehyde?

L.Roberts

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On Jun 1, 7:29 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:14:30 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzcat2...@yahoo.com>
> *****- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I've been observing the phenomena of 'early religious indoctrination'
for a long time now. Actually there is nothing about you that is any
different than any of the other sheeple so afflicted. Maybe someday
though a way will be found to snap all of you out of your closed
mindedness.

Antares 531

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God is omnipotent. He agreed to let Lucifer/Satan explore sin and
rebellion with we humans tagging along for the purpose of learning
enough about sin and rebellion to assure God that NONE of us would
EVER want to go back and explore it any further, once we've been
granted immortality and absolute sovereignty.

God could have pre-programmed us as puppets or He could have
intimidated us into compliance, but this would not have provided means
for us to mature into fully reliable, fully sovereign individuals, as
God wants us to. We are children of God and children are expected to
mature to the level of their parents. God wants us to be absolutely
sovereign and absolutely reliable, during our immortal existence.

Back to your implication that God is not able...there are many ways in
which god restricts Himself. For example, God can not lie or be
deceptive...because He restricts Himself in these matters. In a
similar way, God restricted Himself when He allowed Lucifer/Satan to
delve into the realm of sin and rebellion. When Lucifer first got this
idea, there was no other Satan leading him on, and there was no way
for Lucifer and the other angels to develop a full, in-depth
understanding of the effects of sin and rebellion other than to get
down and get dirty while exploring it in depth. This is the ONLY way
any of us could develop the understanding that will enable us to
resist any and all temptations to go the way Lucifer/Satan went in the
beginning.

Gordon

Brad Guth

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On May 31, 4:59 am, Ivan I. Deer <Iv...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
> >> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
> >>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>
> >> Same one.
>
> >And the muslum god?
>
> The Muslim Allah is one and the same as Satan who deceived Adam and
> Eve.

Is Trump also Mormon?
As for those being Mormon is at least open minded enough to accept
that other forms of intelligent life besides us humans exist, and I
kind of like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fac2Fig1.jpg
"Detail of Joseph Smith Hypocephalus. Reference numeral 1 represents
Kolob according to Joseph Smith, Jr., who was not a trained
Egyptologist. Modern scholars interpret this as an altered figure of a
creator god."

The Mormon god looks like a giant cockroach, as being worshiped by a
couple of dogs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abraham_Facsimile_2.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob

At least their symbolism is quite fascinating and worthy of such
Mormon ETs.

Seriously, what ETs has Romney and Donald Trump ever spoken with?

“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Go right ahead and tell us whatever you can manage to interpret,
because if you accept other mainstream media imaging obtained from
public funded science that’s of extensively photoshopped, stacked and
color/hue saturation modified images that our NASA plus the likes of
JPL and ASU gets mainstream published and even into textbooks all the
time, then interpreting this one should be quite easy.

http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/Guth Venus

linuxgal

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HVAC wrote:

>
> Which only points up the foolishness of religious wars.
> They aren't fighting over who's god is real..They fight
> over which flavor of god is preferred.

Quarks for sale- Comes in six flavors!

Father Haskell

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On Jun 1, 8:55 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:

> God is omnipotent. He agreed to let Lucifer/Satan explore sin and
> rebellion with we humans tagging along for the purpose of learning
> enough about sin and rebellion to assure God that NONE of us would
> EVER want to go back and explore it any further, once we've been
> granted immortality and absolute sovereignty.

That's like giving someone beer in hopes that they'll
never want one again.

duke

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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 05:10:24 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I've been observing the phenomena of 'early religious indoctrination'
>for a long time now. Actually there is nothing about you that is any
>different than any of the other sheeple so afflicted.

That because, as an early religious indoctrinated, I grew up and realized the
truth hadn't changed..

> Maybe someday
>though a way will be found to snap all of you out of your closed
>mindedness.

We lose then. If you join us, you win.

Uncle Vic

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"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote
in news:jq5utk$fl7$1...@dont-email.me:

>
>
> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>>
>>>So satan isn't a real character?
>>
>> Probably not.
>
> Then you're not a real Christian. The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that
> Satan is a real being and an evil entity. And he was accidently
> created by Jesus Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.

Where does the bible say this?

> He created
> Satan to be nearly as powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult
> to defeat him, but He can do it.
>
>

This is pure silliness. Why would someone who wants to win create an enemy
that could possibly prevent this? Then again, why would a sane creator
create a species said creator knew would "sin" against him, then punish it
horribly for that?

Your jesus stories are the ramblings of a madman.

--
Uncle Vic
aa# 2011
Matthew 6:5-6
"Keep thy religion to thyself"

Visit my You Tube Channel!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Vicman6311?feature=mhee

Uncle Vic

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"L.Roberts" <ozzca...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:0104016f-2f6c-4535...@fr28g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

> http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snake-
> bite-173406645--abc-news-topstories.html
>
> Pastor picks up Satan and pays the ultimate penalty. LOL,
> Pentacostalists, dumbest bastard out there.

"A "serpent-handling" West Virginia pastor died after his rattlesnake bit
him during a church ritual, just as the man had apparently watched a snake
kill his father years before."

---

He apparently blamed Satan for his father's demise, believing he could
overcome this "evil" himself. Like I keep saying, these idiots are
incapable of learning, even from their own mistakes.

Uncle Vic

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:a7nes7pfrcfp3lsfn...@4ax.com:

>>Those are fox Pentecostals. Real Pentecostals stay away from snakes.
>>We prefer lizards and baby alligators.
>
> So you're a fake pente?

He's a Loki. Pretty good one, too. He's made mistakes, though, that point
to him being an atheist pretending to be a fundy.

Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg

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In article <2p9hs7hlo54k7p2m4...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 May 2012 18:15:26 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the
> Other
> of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><a5c214c0-80f3-44fd...@tx6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> > Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > So what are you looking for? Or don't you realize there are only 2
> >> > choices
> >> > to
> >> > pursue.
> >>
> >> Dude, you are SO close!
> >>
> >> Only off by one.
> >>
> >>
> >> And so you admit that the only reason one you can
> >> think of to want to spend an endelssly tediuous
> >> eternity in heaven is "Well, at least it isn't
> >> hell"?
> >
> >There is no heaven or hell. When you die you're dead and gone. We serve the
> >god-to-be while we live. After we die others will take our place in service.
>
> Pagan.

You worship a little god.

Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg

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In article <vb9hs75i1cqp8aq3h...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> 1. Eternal love with God in Heaven.
> 2. Salvation from the fires of Hell.

You live, you die, you're gone. Only the god to be will be eternal.

Father Haskell

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On May 30, 4:11 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>
> >>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>
> >>So satan isn't a real character?
>
> > Probably not.
>
> Then you're not a real Christian.  The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that Satan
> is a real being and an evil entity.  And he was accidently created by Jesus
> Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.  He created Satan to be nearly as
> powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult to defeat him, but He can do
> it.

Satan was jebus' older brother. Ask any mormon.

Seth lePod

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On Jun 1, 4:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:34:30 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.inferna...@gmail.com>
Which "tribune Godhead"? Celtic, Germanic, Greek,
Indian, Roman, Slavic, Taoist, Thelemic, other? Triune
deities are boringly common.

> - the Father is not the Son is
> not the Holy Spirit is not the Father. I thought you were talking about heaven
> or hell.

I'm -- as of course even you understood -- talking
about your "there are only two choices".

Close: there's only one. But that one's not a
choice.



:
> >And so you admit that the only reason one you can
> >think of to want to spend an endelssly tediuous
> >eternity in heaven is "Well, at least it isn't
> >hell"?

:
> Strawman.

Really? Define the usage of that term, and
explain why you claim it is one:






:
> >I guess I'll have to add you to the list of
> >Christians who were puzzlingly unable to give me a
> >single reason they were looking forward to heaven.

:
> 1. Eternal love with God in Heaven.

Seeing what his "love" has wrought here on Earth
in a few mere millennia, I'll pass on seeing
what horrors he can concoct given unlimited time.

But even so, what do you plan to do there, other
than sitting around for ever and ever and ever
and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and
ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever
and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and
ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever
and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and
ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever?

No thank you.

:
> 2. Salvation from the fires of Hell.

Uh huh. And living in a refrigerator box in an
alley in New York is better than living in the
slums of Calcutta. That doesn't make it any kind
of positive recommendation.


> So you don't have any yourself!!! Interesting.

Not a one. Contemplating prospect of such a thing
is one thing that started me on my recovery from Christianity.


Seth

Don Martin

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:20:53 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:a7nes7pfrcfp3lsfn...@4ax.com:
>
>>>Those are fox Pentecostals. Real Pentecostals stay away from snakes.
>>>We prefer lizards and baby alligators.
>>
>> So you're a fake pente?
>
>He's a Loki. Pretty good one, too. He's made mistakes, though, that point
>to him being an atheist pretending to be a fundy.

I hope not. I prefer to suppose that atheists are more honest than
that. Besides, I have never noticed any shortage of fundies capable
of making their faith look idiotic.

duke

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:32:18 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other
of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:

>In article <2p9hs7hlo54k7p2m4...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 18:15:26 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the
>> Other
>> of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>>
>> >In article
>> ><a5c214c0-80f3-44fd...@tx6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
>> > Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > So what are you looking for? Or don't you realize there are only 2
>> >> > choices
>> >> > to
>> >> > pursue.
>> >>
>> >> Dude, you are SO close!
>> >>
>> >> Only off by one.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And so you admit that the only reason one you can
>> >> think of to want to spend an endelssly tediuous
>> >> eternity in heaven is "Well, at least it isn't
>> >> hell"?
>> >
>> >There is no heaven or hell. When you die you're dead and gone. We serve the
>> >god-to-be while we live. After we die others will take our place in service.
>>
>> Pagan.
>
>You worship a little god.

I'm not sure about his size, but he's the ONLY God almighty.

duke

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:57:13 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other
of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:

>In article <vb9hs75i1cqp8aq3h...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> 1. Eternal love with God in Heaven.
>> 2. Salvation from the fires of Hell.
>
>You live, you die, you're gone. Only the god to be will be eternal.

God said otherwise.

Our bodies come from dust and to dust our bodies will return. Fancy that. We
come from dust. Our God had no problem animating us and giving us a soul. He
will have no problem re-animating our souls which are imperishable.

duke

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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:57:26 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
There's only one - almighty God. Those "others" you refer to have never so much
as lifted one wooden finger.

Don't you ever investigate your wild comments, lepod. You wouldn't appear so
immature if you did.

>> - the Father is not the Son is
>> not the Holy Spirit is not the Father. I thought you were talking about heaven
>> or hell.

>I'm -- as of course even you understood -- talking
>about your "there are only two choices".

I already know what I'm talking about - heaven or hell. YOU are the one that
suggested "off by one".

>Close: there's only one. But that one's not a
>choice.

Heeheehee.

>> >And so you admit that the only reason one you can
>> >think of to want to spend an endelssly tediuous
>> >eternity in heaven is "Well, at least it isn't
>> >hell"?

>> Strawman.

>Really? Define the usage of that term, and
>explain why you claim it is one:

Inconsequential and false conclusion.

>> 1. Eternal love with God in Heaven.

>Seeing what his "love" has wrought here on Earth
>in a few mere millennia, I'll pass on seeing
>what horrors he can concoct given unlimited time.

I know what his love is.

>> 2. Salvation from the fires of Hell.

>Uh huh. And living in a refrigerator box in an
>alley in New York is better than living in the
>slums of Calcutta. That doesn't make it any kind
>of positive recommendation.

Then you don't understand.

>> So you don't have any yourself!!! Interesting.

>Not a one. Contemplating prospect of such a thing
>is one thing that started me on my recovery from Christianity.

I'm thrilled about being back. I was wrong before and you are now.

duke

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:06:48 -0500, Uncle Vic <so...@noway.com> wrote:

>"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote
>in news:jq5utk$fl7$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>>
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:sklcs71q3nn6j6gj9...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 09:19:34 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 5/30/2012 7:10 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, satan is the evil in our hearts.
>>>
>>>>So satan isn't a real character?
>>>
>>> Probably not.
>>
>> Then you're not a real Christian. The Bible is absolutely CLEAR that
>> Satan is a real being and an evil entity. And he was accidently
>> created by Jesus Christ in a lab experiment gone wrong.
>
>Where does the bible say this?
>
>> He created
>> Satan to be nearly as powerful as Him, and it's going to be difficult
>> to defeat him, but He can do it.

>This is pure silliness. Why would someone who wants to win create an enemy
>that could possibly prevent this? Then again, why would a sane creator
>create a species said creator knew would "sin" against him, then punish it
>horribly for that?
>Your jesus stories are the ramblings of a madman.

The answer to your second comment is that God wants us to reflect our desire to
overcome our sinfulness for his love. It's a maturity in creation thing.

duke

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That's why mormons aren't Christians.

duke

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:55:40 -0500, Antares 531 <gordonl...@swbell.net>
wrote:
No, not once, but in exchange for.

duke

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On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:51:25 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/31/2012 7:59 AM, Ivan I. Deer wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 08:00:14 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/30/2012 7:07 AM, duke wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:33:33 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/29/2012 7:31 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you believed in the Christian God, you would understand.
>>>>> As opposed to the Jewish god?
>>>>
>>>> Same one.
>>>
>>>
>>> And the muslum god?
>>>
>> The Muslim Allah is one and the same as Satan who deceived Adam and
>> Eve.
>
>Not according to Duke.

Islam - God named Allah, people - muslims submissive to God.
Judiasm - God named Jehovah, people - Jews servants of God.
Christianity - God named God, people - Christians family of God.

L.Roberts

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On Jun 1, 12:58 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 05:10:24 -0700 (PDT), "L.Roberts" <ozzcat2...@yahoo.com>
> *****- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

all you have is artificial light, duke, you dumbass racist bastard,
the dark is still there, will always be there, but, and here I have a
agree with a historic dumbass, there is nothing to fear but fear itself

Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg

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In article <1u0ks79v9q3avje8i...@4ax.com>,
Don't you get tired of telling your god what to do?

Alan Ferris

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On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:54:40 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>> Pagan.
>>
>>You worship a little god.
>
>I'm not sure about his size, but he's the ONLY God almighty.

Is that why you are so FAT, trying to copy him?

---------------
"And God said that no one has ever seen him." - duke (Earl Webber)

Exodus 24:10 "...and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet
there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire...”
---------------
"no one had a job, so no money." - duke (Earl Webber)

Matthew 22:19 "Show me the coin used for paying the tax..."
---------------
"The only religion preceding Christianity was Judaism" - duke (Earl
Webber)

1 Kings 22:53 "For he served Baal, and worshipped him"
--------------

Alan Ferris

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On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 07:12:39 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>This is pure silliness. Why would someone who wants to win create an enemy
>>that could possibly prevent this? Then again, why would a sane creator
>>create a species said creator knew would "sin" against him, then punish it
>>horribly for that?
>>Your jesus stories are the ramblings of a madman.
>
>The answer to your second comment is that God wants us to reflect our desire to
>overcome our sinfulness for his love. It's a maturity in creation thing.

So why do you keep lying, or do you feel lying is not a sin worthy of
overcoming?

"Did you report yourself to the civil authorities for what you did to
your priest?"
- duke (Earl Weber) defending abuse
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