Contradictions in the Bible—Why Are They There?
Christ's Love
example, the four Gospels give four differing accounts as to what was
written on the sign that hung on the cross. Matthew said, “This is
Jesus the King of the Jews” (27:37). However, Mark contradicts that
with “The King of the Jews” (15:26). Luke says something different:
“This is the King of the Jews” (23:38), and John maintains that the
sign said “Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews” (19:19).
Those who are looking for contradictions may therefore say, “See—the
Bible is full of mistakes!” and choose to reject it entirely as being
untrustworthy. However, those who trust God have no problem
harmonizing the Gospels. There is no contradiction if the sign simply
said, “This is Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews.”
The godly base their confidence on two truths: 1) “all Scripture is
given by inspiration of God” (2 Timothy 3:16); and 2) an elementary
rule of Scripture is that God has deliberately included seeming
contradictions in His Word to “snare” the proud. He has “hidden”
things from the “wise and prudent” and “revealed them to babes” (Luke
10:21), purposely choosing foolish things to confound the wise (1
Corinthians 1:27).
Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I! Each and every one of you!
chibiabos
<christ...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Bible has many seeming contradictions within its pages. For
> example, the four Gospels give four differing accounts as to what was
> written on the sign that hung on the cross. Matthew said, “This is
> Jesus the King of the Jews” (27:37). However, Mark contradicts that
> with “The King of the Jews” (15:26). Luke says something different:
> “This is the King of the Jews” (23:38), and John maintains that the
> sign said “Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews” (19:19).
>
> Those who are looking for contradictions may therefore say, “See—the
> Bible is full of mistakes!” and choose to reject it entirely as being
> untrustworthy. However, those who trust God have no problem
> harmonizing the Gospels.
Known in the trade as "cognitive dissonance."
-chib
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Emerson Wainwright
> The Bible has many seeming contradictions within its pages.
"Seeming"?
> For
> example, the four Gospels give four differing accounts as to what was
> written on the sign that hung on the cross. Matthew said, “This is
> Jesus the King of the Jews” (27:37). However, Mark contradicts that
> with “The King of the Jews” (15:26). Luke says something different:
> “This is the King of the Jews” (23:38), and John maintains that the
> sign said “Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews” (19:19).
>
> Those who are looking for contradictions may therefore say, “See—the
> Bible is full of mistakes!” and choose to reject it entirely as being
> untrustworthy. However, those who trust God have no problem
> harmonizing the Gospels.
No problem if they do that for themselves. It's when they insist that
everyone else do it that we have a problem.
> There is no contradiction if the sign simply
> said, “This is Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews.”
>
> The godly base their confidence on two truths: 1) “all Scripture is
> given by inspiration of God” (2 Timothy 3:16);
NB: 2 Timothy 3:16 was written BY A MAN. So were the rest of the
books. Just saying "God inspired this" doesn't make it true.
> and 2) an elementary
> rule of Scripture is that God has deliberately included seeming
> contradictions in His Word to “snare” the proud.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought he was omniscient. If so, he already knows who's proud and
who's not, so there would be no need to play this game with people's
souls. Is this Supreme Being of yours REALLY that fucking bored? If
so, let him know I'm STILL waiting for him to answer my prayer that I
should win the lottery. He needs to quit playing these games and show
me da money!
Anyway, playing with people's souls like this sounds rather more
Satanic than heavenly, dontcha think?
> He has “hidden”
> things from the “wise and prudent” and “revealed them to babes” (Luke
> 10:21), purposely choosing foolish things to confound the wise (1
> Corinthians 1:27).
Ah~! So there IS an Easter bunny.
Why is this creator so CHILDISH? This universe is VAST! He needs to
find a new hobby.
Hatter
Also known as handwaiving and justification. Either you believe the
entire bible is true, which is contradictory and you are insane. Or
you believe in the parts you want to believe in and you are therefore
putting the whole text up for debate as a cafeteria christian.
Hatter
DanielSan
One thing that pisses off these Cafeteria Christians who believe in
Bible infallibility is this question:
Did God create man first or the animals first?
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> In article <usg524dkunhachuk1...@4ax.com>, Christ's Love
> <christ...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The Bible has many seeming contradictions within its pages. For
>> example, the four Gospels give four differing accounts as to what was
>> written on the sign that hung on the cross. Matthew said, "This is
>> Jesus the King of the Jews" (27:37). However, Mark contradicts that
>> with "The King of the Jews" (15:26). Luke says something different:
>> "This is the King of the Jews" (23:38), and John maintains that the
>> sign said "Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews" (19:19).
>>
>> Bible is full of mistakes!" and choose to reject it entirely as being
>> untrustworthy. However, those who trust God have no problem
>> harmonizing the Gospels.
>
> Known in the trade as "cognitive dissonance."
Isn't there also something like "suspension of disbelief?"
Conspiracy of Doves
Yo, right here. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
raven1
<christ...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Those who are looking for contradictions may therefore say, “See—the
>Bible is full of mistakes!” and choose to reject it entirely as being
>untrustworthy. However, those who trust God have no problem
>harmonizing the Gospels. There is no contradiction if the sign simply
>said, “This is Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews.”
Fine. Harmonize the wildly contradictory accounts of Easter morning.
Pay particular attention to who went to the tomb, when they went
there, whether the stone was already rolled back, or whether it rolled
back in their presence, who they saw there, and what was said between
them.
I won't hold my breath waiting.
Apostate
Or you can issue handwaivers for specific parts, I guess.
(Better than the coarser, meat-cleaver method of using factory waivers.)
:-)
>
>Hatter
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Hatter
wrote:
the text is debateable, but they don't understand this illogic of them
invoking special pleading as to what parts are unquestionable and what
parts are questionable. If I keep slapping it in their faces perhaps
over my lifetime I can get a few to wake up.
Hatter
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
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Christ's Love wrote:
| The Bible has many seeming contradictions within its pages. For
| example, the four Gospels give four differing accounts as to what was
| written on the sign that hung on the cross. Matthew said, “This is
| Jesus the King of the Jews” (27:37). However, Mark contradicts that
| with “The King of the Jews” (15:26). Luke says something different:
| “This is the King of the Jews” (23:38), and John maintains that the
| sign said “Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews” (19:19).
|
| Those who are looking for contradictions may therefore say, “See—the
| Bible is full of mistakes!” and choose to reject it entirely as being
| untrustworthy. However, those who trust God have no problem
| harmonizing the Gospels. There is no contradiction if the sign simply
| said, “This is Jesus of Nazareth the King of the Jews.”
|
Is this the same hat trick you'll try to use, in the death's of Judas?
BTW, I do not believe you.
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than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Hatter
yeah for more verisimilitude they should have had a continuity editor
come in from the publisher of the piece of fiction.
Hatter
Apostate
I'll wave any further comment.
<cues up Beach Boys>
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RedDog
wrote:
Yep, and He made it look like evolution is true too ..... just so he
could ensnare us atheists. LOL!
Emerson Wainwright
>
> Yep, and He made it look like evolution is true too ..... just so he
LOL!!
Reverend Mother Tucker
wrote:
> "Seeming"?
Yes. They seem like contradictions only to those of you with little
faith. To True Believers like me they're just tests of our confidence
in God's promises. He promised quite an extraordinary fate for homo
sexuals like you -- in the Lake of Fire!
> No problem if they do that for themselves. It's when they insist that
> everyone else do it that we have a problem.
We don't insist that you accept the Holy Bible's plain truth. We
simply warn you of the dreadful consequences of rejecting it. Why not
just ask God to help you understand His revelations? I did - and it
made me a much better person. God gave me the gift of healing as a
result. Just last night a man came into our church with a bad back.
I prayed and the Power of God flowed straight thru me and restored
lost cartilage miraculously. Cripples regularly throw their crutches
don at our revivals and waltz out after the last altar call. I can
even cure unnatural homo sexual lust thru prayer and the laying on of
hands in the right places. And you can get your juvenile mind locked
in a geraitric body outa the gutter, Snot Nose.
> NB: 2 Timothy 3:16 was written BY A MAN.
CORRECTION: The sacred text was TRANSCRIBED by a saint writing under
direct Divine inspiration.
> So were the rest of the books. Just saying "God inspired this" doesn't make it
> true.
Saying so doesn't - but the fact that God actually did inspire the
Holy Bible does. Just look at all the fulfilled prophecy's in it.
When True Believers like me read from the Word, we get a special warm
glow all over that's a sure sign God is a moving us toward an
understanding of His Truth. If'n you read the Bible prayerfully, you
can feel this warmth too - although first you'll have to give up the
homo sexuality AND the drinking. God actually saves some atheists
even if'n they remain all skeptical. That's on accounta they ain't
usually hypocrites that some false Christians are. God wants people
to be hot or cold - but never luke warm.
> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God doesn't appreciate your mockery! Do you want to wind up in an
even hotter crag in hell that the one the devil's got all stoked up
and red hot for you right now?
> I thought he
He
> was omniscient. If so, he
He
> already knows who's proud and who's not,
But He giveth us fredom of choice so's we can decide whether to obey
His Word or not. Those that obeys gets rewarded. Those that don't
get punished. God also tests His Faithful Servants like old Job and
me with occasional trials and tribulations to keep us extra faithful.
If we pass God's tests He gives us even bigger rewards - including
sprawling mansions in heaven. When He abandons the wicked, He gives
them good things too - like nice cars, flashy clothes, jewels and
political office - but then the agony's of eternal hell fire hurt them
all that much more. God is omniscient - but He doesn't predetermine
every little detail of our lives. What would be the purpose in that?
> so there would be no need to play this game with people's
> souls.
It's not really a game. He just wants only the most faithful and
obedient in His Holy Kingdom. The stiff necked and the lust crazed
must burn.
> Is this Supreme Being of yours REALLY that f******* bored?
You really need to keep the foul language offa this Gospel thread.
God makes the rules. He doesn't have to account to you for none of
them.
> If so, let him know I'm STILL waiting for him to answer my prayer that I
> should win the lottery.
God is NOT your genie! You will actually suffer MORE for a praying
for such frivolous things and not world peace or a cure for epilepsy.
Or DIPSOMANIA!
> He needs to quit playing these games and show me da money!
He'll give you exactly what you deserve in recompense for your nasty
greed - an eternity in the Putrid Pit. And without no asbestos
slippers neither. Hahahahaha!
> Anyway, playing with people's souls like this sounds rather more
> Satanic than heavenly, dontcha think?
That is BLASPHEMY! God doesn't "play" with souls the way you "play"
with men's dirty butts. God has a special plan for all of us. We
either follow it and prosper or ignore it and perish. The choice is
yours.
> Ah~! So there IS an Easter bunny.
That's a pagan symbol. The True Spirit of Easter is Jesus Christ.
> Why is this creator
Creator
> so CHILDISH?
He ain't. Your limited, biased conception of His Glory is.
> This universe is VAST!
Ain't that a quote from "This Island Earth"? Anyways - your little
hole in hell is minuscule. If you want to experience vastness, pray
to God and ask for His guidance in your otherwise wasted little life.
The Lord Jesus wants to heal your impure sex urges now!
> He needs to find a new hobby.
YOU need to find True Faith to replace that ugly mockery of yours.
I'll pray for you -
Reverend Mother Lurlean Tucker
Faith Healing Wonder Girl
Bill Baker
<mother...@wowmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 8, 5:11 am, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Seeming"?
>
> Yes. They seem like contradictions only to those of you with little
> faith. To True Believers like me they're just tests of our confidence
> in God's promises. He promised quite an extraordinary fate for homo
> sexuals like you -- in the Lake of Fire!
Yes, we know what Satanists like you have been seeing when you pray to your
master, the devil.
>> No problem if they do that for themselves. It's when they insist that
>> everyone else do it that we have a problem.
>
> We don't insist that you accept the Holy Bible's plain truth. We
> simply warn you of the dreadful consequences of rejecting it.
Which is emotional and physical blackmail. Only a Satanic god would have to
blackmail people into believing in him, therefore you worship Satan. Case
closed!
> Why not just ask God to help you understand His revelations? I did
You asked Satan.
> - and it made me a much better person.
It made you a liar and a Satan-worshiper.
> God gave me the gift of healing as a result. Just last night a man came
> into our church with a bad back. I prayed and the Power of God flowed
> straight thru me and restored lost cartilage miraculously. Cripples
> regularly throw their crutches don at our revivals and waltz out after the
> last altar call. I can even cure unnatural homo sexual lust thru prayer
> and the laying on of hands in the right places. And you can get your
> juvenile mind locked in a geraitric body outa the gutter, Snot Nose.
Thanks for these DEMONstrations of your lies.
>> NB: 2 Timothy 3:16 was written BY A MAN.
>
> CORRECTION: The sacred text was TRANSCRIBED by a saint writing under
> direct Divine inspiration.
>
>> So were the rest of the books. Just saying "God inspired this" doesn't
>> make it true.
>
> Saying so doesn't - but the fact that God actually did inspire the
> Holy Bible does. Just look at all the fulfilled prophecy's in it.
> When True Believers like me read from the Word, we get a special warm
> glow all over that's a sure sign God is a moving us toward an
> understanding of His Truth.
That's just Satanic hell fire you feel because Satan is so near you and
guiding your understanding of the Bible.
> If'n you read the Bible prayerfully, you can feel this warmth too -
> although first you'll have to give up the homo sexuality AND the drinking.
> God actually saves some atheists even if'n they remain all skeptical.
> That's on accounta they ain't usually hypocrites that some false
> Christians are. God wants people to be hot or cold - but never luke warm.
>
>>LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> God doesn't appreciate your mockery! Do you want to wind up in an
> even hotter crag in hell that the one the devil's got all stoked up
> and red hot for you right now?
Why should we believe what you say? You worship Satan!
>> I thought he
>
> He
>
>> was omniscient. If so, he
>
> He
>
>> already knows who's proud and who's not,
>
> But He giveth us fredom of choice so's we can decide whether to obey
> His Word or not.
Then God shouldn't mind if we don't obey.
> Those that obeys gets rewarded. Those that don't get punished. God also
> tests His Faithful Servants like old Job and me with occasional trials and
> tribulations to keep us extra faithful. If we pass God's tests He gives
> us even bigger rewards - including sprawling mansions in heaven. When He
> abandons the wicked, He gives them good things too - like nice cars,
You mean like your Prius that you bilked elderly people out of their money
for, Satanist?
> flashy clothes, jewels and political office - but then the agony's of
> eternal hell fire hurt them all that much more. God is omniscient - but
> He doesn't predetermine every little detail of our lives. What would be
> the purpose in that?
Then God must not mind that people stray from him. And he must not care
that some people are homosexuals.
>> so there would be no need to play this game with people's
>> souls.
>
> It's not really a game. He just wants only the most faithful and
> obedient in His Holy Kingdom. The stiff necked and the lust crazed
> must burn.
So God doesn't love those people. But I almost forgot, you worship Satan,
so of course he doesn't love anyone.
>> Is this Supreme Being of yours REALLY that f******* bored?
>
> You really need to keep the foul language offa this Gospel thread.
> God makes the rules. He doesn't have to account to you for none of
> them.
Then why do you worship Satan?
>> If so, let him know I'm STILL waiting for him to answer my prayer that I
>> should win the lottery.
>
> God is NOT your genie! You will actually suffer MORE for a praying
> for such frivolous things and not world peace or a cure for epilepsy.
> Or DIPSOMANIA!
>
>> He needs to quit playing these games and show me da money!
>
> He'll give you exactly what you deserve in recompense for your nasty
> greed - an eternity in the Putrid Pit. And without no asbestos
> slippers neither. Hahahahaha!
Satanists like yourself often enjoy thinking of people being tormented.
>> Anyway, playing with people's souls like this sounds rather more
>> Satanic than heavenly, dontcha think?
>
> That is BLASPHEMY! God doesn't "play" with souls the way you "play"
> with men's dirty butts. God has a special plan for all of us. We
> either follow it and prosper or ignore it and perish. The choice is
> yours.
And you chose to follow Satan.
>> Ah~! So there IS an Easter bunny.
>
> That's a pagan symbol. The True Spirit of Easter is Jesus Christ.
>
>> Why is this creator
>
> Creator
>
>> so CHILDISH?
>
> He ain't. Your limited, biased conception of His Glory is.
>
>> This universe is VAST!
>
> Ain't that a quote from "This Island Earth"? Anyways - your little
> hole in hell is minuscule. If you want to experience vastness, pray
> to God and ask for His guidance in your otherwise wasted little life.
> The Lord Jesus wants to heal your impure sex urges now!
Only Satan could want that.
>> He needs to find a new hobby.
>
> YOU need to find True Faith to replace that ugly mockery of yours.
But it's fun to mock Satanists like yourself.
> I'll pray for you -
>
> Reverend Mother Lurlean Tucker
> Faith Healing Wonder Girl
Played by Lynda Carter?
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MarkA
cobbled together, collated, and edited, over and over again, over hundreds
of years, by different editors with differing agendas? Because the parts
about Jesus were manufactured to provide a "back story" for a character
that was never real?
So, you explanation is "Don't let it worry you"? Could you be more of an
idiot?
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About eight o'clock
Hatter
wrote:
> On May 8, 5:11 am, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "Seeming"?
>
> Yes. They seem like contradictions only to those of you with little
> faith.
Yup a I am of little faith, because I know better
Hatter
Emerson Wainwright
> wrote:
>
> > "Seeming"?
>
> Yes. They seem like contradictions only to those of you with little
> faith.
I see. It's a good thing you have faith. Must save you a lot of $$$
on doctor bills and prescriptions and the like.
Anyway, let's take the example of Joseph's father.
In Matthew, it says that Jacob (A) was the father of Joseph.
Oh! But in Luke it says that Heli (non-A) was the father of Joseph.
So you're believing that A = non-A. Which makes me wonder if you've
ever successfully completed a course in basic arithmetic.
Now, it COULD be true that Joseph had two daddies. Jacob and Heli
might have been Lovers, raising Joseph. This would make sense because
Joseph was clearly a liberal -- he helped out an unmarried pregnant
slut named Mary by marrying her so she wouldn't be killed for her
whoredom!
Otherwise, though, one of the statements must be false. And if one of
the statements is false, that means that your Bible is not inerrant.
> To True Believers like me they're just tests of our confidence
> in God's promises. He promised quite an extraordinary fate for homo
> sexuals like you
He loves the Homos. That's why he named humans "homo sapiens".
He had only one Son -- Jesus -- who turned out to be Gay (VERY gay as
we find out: he loved man-sweat, wore dresses and hung out with a pre-
op tranny named "Mary") and God loved Jesus anyway and Jesus is in
Heaven, still Gay and Unmarried and having Holy Dalliances with the
Angels.
> > No problem if they do that for themselves. It's when they insist that
> > everyone else do it that we have a problem.
>
> We don't insist that you accept the Holy Bible's plain truth.
There doesn't appear to be a whole lot of truth in that book, to be
honest with you, but there is some! I mean, we all know that the sun
revolves around the earth (which is immovable, about 6,000 years old,
has four corners and stands on pillars)
> We
> simply warn you of the dreadful consequences of rejecting it.
Why can't ya just do that once and let it rest?
> Why not
> just ask God to help you understand His revelations? I did - and it
> made me a much better person.
Nobody else seems to concur with the position that you are a better
person. And if you are, it would cause endless nightmares trying to
picture how you were before you "understood" "His" "revelations".
> God gave me the gift of healing as a
> result.
Heal thyself.
> Just last night a man came
*GASP!*
> I prayed and the Power of God flowed straight thru me
That is DISGUSTING!! I hope you used condoms.
> > NB: 2 Timothy 3:16 was written BY A MAN.
>
> CORRECTION: The sacred text was TRANSCRIBED by a saint writing under
> direct Divine inspiration.
CORRECTIONS: There were no saints and there is no evidence of
"Divine" inspiration, unless by "Divine" you mean "Mythological and
Error-Filled".
> > So were the rest of the books. Just saying "God inspired this" doesn't make it
> > true.
>
> Saying so doesn't - but the fact that God actually did inspire the
> Holy Bible does.
"Inspire" is a strange word, isn't it?
He either wrote it or he didn't. If he sent his message through
fallible man, then it's His own fault that the Bible is as fucked up
as it is.
> Just look at all the fulfilled prophecy's in it.
You mean like THIS one?:
Isaiah 19:5-7
And the waters of the Nile will be dried up, and the river will be
parched and dry; and its canal will become foul, and the branches of
Egypt's Nile will diminish and dry up, reeds and rushes will rot away.
There will be bare places by the Nile, on the brink of the Nile, and
all that is sown by the Nile will dry up, be driven away, and be no
more.
And THIS one?:
Isaiah 17:1-2
An oracle concerning Damascus. See, Damascus will cease to be a city,
and will become a heap of ruins. Her towns will be deserted forever
And how 'bout THIS one?:
Ezekiel 26:7-14
For thus says the Lord: "Behold I will bring upon Tyre from the north
Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots,
and with horsemen and a hosts of many soldiers. He will slay with the
sword your daughters on the mainland; he will set up a seige wall
against you. He will direct the shock of his battering rams against
your walls, and with his axes he will break down your towers...With
the hoofs os his horses he will trample all your streets; he will slay
your people with the sword and your mighty pillar will fall to the
ground...they will break down your walls and destroy your pleasant
houses... I will make you a bare rock...you shall never be rebuilt,
for I have spoken," says the Lord God.
> When True Believers like me read from the Word, we get a special warm
> glow all over
That's called "Lust", you old whore.
> God wants people
> to be hot or cold - but never luke warm.
Nobody's ever called me "lukewarm". I'm Scotty the Hotty, and I'm
clearly going directly to Heaven.
> > LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> God doesn't appreciate your mockery!
Prove it.
> Do you want to wind up in an
> even hotter crag in hell that the one the devil's got all stoked up
> and red hot for you right now?
I'm going straight to Heaven, as you indicate above. Gonna hang with
my bro', Gay Jesus. I'll probably put him on my "lap" after I have
him brush his teeth and give him a good scrubbing down.
> But He giveth us fredom of choice so's we can decide whether to obey
> His Word or not.
He's not very good at time management, then. Big waste of time if one
is omniscient and already knows the outcome. It's rather like knowing
in advance that you've won a backgammon game, but playing the game
anyway, when you could have started a new one.
> Those that obeys gets rewarded. Those that don't
> get punished. God also tests His Faithful Servants like old Job and
> me with occasional trials and tribulations to keep us extra faithful.
> If we pass God's tests He gives us even bigger rewards - including
> sprawling mansions in heaven. When He abandons the wicked, He gives
> them good things too - like nice cars, flashy clothes, jewels and
> political office - but then the agony's of eternal hell fire hurt them
> all that much more.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that deals can be struck with the
Devil, so it might not be all that bad Downtown. That's where all the
fun people are going, ya know.
> God is omniscient - but He doesn't predetermine
> every little detail of our lives. What would be the purpose in that?
>
> > so there would be no need to play this game with people's
> > souls.
>
> It's not really a game. He just wants only the most faithful and
> obedient in His Holy Kingdom.
Doesn't he already know who is faithful and obedient? Or is he not
omniscient?
mizlee
In the immortal words of Christopher Lee: What a fucking moron!
C M de Medici
Bill Baker wrote:
> On Friday 09 May 2008 12:53 am Reverend Mother Tucker
> <mother...@wowmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<9c8eb36e-8023-425c...@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
>
> > On May 8, 5:11Â am, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@gmx.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Seeming"?
> >
> > Yes. They seem like contradictions only to those of you with little
> > faith.
They seem like contradictions to anyone with some sense of logic who has not drank deeply of fundamentalist Kool-Aid, as
toxic to intellectual freedom as Jonestown Kool-Aid was to human lives.
> To True Believers like me they're just tests of our confidence
> > in God's promises. He promised quite an extraordinary fate for homo
> > sexuals like you -- in the Lake of Fire!
I cannot imagine that you would be rewarded for ignorance, but I could be mistaken. Your God including contraditions as a
"test" suggests that there are errors intentionally included in the text, making fallible the word of your rather
disturbed god-figure.
>
>
> Yes, we know what Satanists like you have been seeing when you pray to your
> master, the devil.
>
> >> No problem if they do that for themselves. Â It's when they insist that
> >> everyone else do it that we have a problem.
> >
> > We don't insist that you accept the Holy Bible's plain truth. We
> > simply warn you of the dreadful consequences of rejecting it.
Sinshine/Lurlean lies here. If some accounts in the text are mutually contradictory then it is hardly "plain truth"
whether or not it is a test from this rather borderline deity who possesses limitless love unless you disobey him, in
which case he has plans for you that would do the Marquis de Sade proud.
>
>
> Which is emotional and physical blackmail. Only a Satanic god would have to
> blackmail people into believing in him, therefore you worship Satan. Case
> closed!
>
> > Why not just ask God to help you understand His revelations? I did
>
> You asked Satan.
Most likely , or worse, the Judeo-Christian deity is evil as well as good. He certainly would appear to be if you accept
his book.
>
>
> > - and it made me a much better person.
>
> It made you a liar and a Satan-worshiper.
>
> > God gave me the gift of healing as a result. Just last night a man came
> > into our church with a bad back.
You couldn't heal Thurgood of his necrophilia fetish played out upon comatose women.
Which of his nubile followers do you suppose it will be who rolls your critically ill out of Thurgood's bed so that they
can frolic as you gasp for life, as you did to your predecessor, not known as Lilith van Bohlen, Lesbian activist?
> I prayed and the Power of God flowed
> > straight thru me and restored lost cartilage miraculously. Cripples
> > regularly throw their crutches don at our revivals and waltz out after the
> > last altar call.
Or after they get SSDI awarded t turn over to your church and they no longer have to fake an illness....
> I can even cure unnatural homo sexual lust thru prayer
> > and the laying on of hands in the right places.
I'll just guess where those places are....
> > If we pass God's tests He gives
> > us even bigger rewards - including sprawling mansions in heaven. When He
> > abandons the wicked, He gives them good things too - like nice cars,
>
> You mean like your Prius that you bilked elderly people out of their money
> for, Satanist?
That would be the one. Her "god" rewards her for predatory exploitation.
The Tuckers are so much like that mormon cult that was raided recently....
>
>
--
C. Marietta de Medici
Villa Medici Gallese
Lesbian: Tribade, Sapphist, Dyke, Practitioner of That Love Which Dare Not Speak It's Name, Member of the Heterodoxy Club,
"The Medicis: Banking, Metaphysics and Art"
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
snip
ROFL! Lurlean, ya damn near got me again! Sure glad I read the whole
thing first. So how ya doin', hon?
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
Reverend Mother Tucker
she's so nasty, but I did wanna stop briefly to emphasize something
she wrote...
On May 9, 10:34 am, C M de Medici <"CMdeMedici"@BankMedici.org,uk>
LIED for Satan:
> You couldn't heal Thurgood of his necrophilia fetish played out upon comatose
> women.
My husband HEALS comatose women - sometimes but not always by a making
love to them to stimulate their senses. It sure brund me outa the
coma I fell into the first time I experimented with fiery serpents
during our church's snake handling rituals.
> Which of his nubile followers do you suppose it will be who rolls your critically ill
Whose critically ill WHAT? We think the old lady has a serious
drinking problem.
> out of Thurgood's bed so that they
> can frolic as you gasp for life, as you did to your predecessor,
My husband's first wife died of cancer of the privates YEARS before I
married him.
> not known as Lilith van Bohlen, Lesbian activist?
^^^
I'm sure glad the crazy old biddy finally admitted this person - me?
Mother Sunshine? Katybelle Tucker? - is NOT known as Lilith van
Bohlen, Luciferian activist. It's there in black and white for
everybody to see.
More wicked lezzie filth snipped.
Lesbo hell gets hotter every day. I'll pray for sinners that be saved
still yet. For others there ain't no hope no more.
Jesus saves thru His Holy Bible!
Reverend Mother Lurlean Tucker
The Lord's Special Healing Holy Woman
Christ's Love
Stop ridiculing, Emerson. You know deep in your heart what you really
need.
Christ's Love
wrote:
1Cor.1.18 " For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish
foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."
Christ's Love
It's all a joke to you now, Emerson, but I pray you'll turn your life
over to Christ before you meet God.
Reverend Mother Tucker
> Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I!
> Each and every one of you!
I think Bill Baker is an exception. He has openly and repeatedly
blasphemed the Holy Spirit in public - a using obscene language at
that. You now what the Bible says about people that does that!
Billions will burn!
Mother Lurlean Tucker
Don't accept no substitutes
C M de Medici
Reverend Mother Tucker wrote:
> I already flushed this old, hateful lezzy down the commode on accounta
> she's so nasty, but I did wanna stop briefly to emphasize something
> she wrote...
>
> On May 9, 10:34 am, C M de Medici <"CMdeMedici"@BankMedici.org,uk>
> LIED for Satan:
>
> > You couldn't heal Thurgood of his necrophilia fetish played out upon comatose
> > women.
>
> My husband HEALS comatose women - sometimes but not always by a making
> love to them to stimulate their senses.
Since they cannot consent, it is rape.
Further he is known for asking his sexual partners to take an ice bath before sex and then
just lay there without moving.
He is a sicko and a cult leader.
> It sure brund me outa the
> coma I fell into the first time I experimented with fiery serpents
> during our church's snake handling rituals.
His fiery serpent? is that what you call his penis?
>
>
> > Which of his nubile followers do you suppose it will be who rolls your critically ill
>
> Whose critically ill WHAT? We think the old lady has a serious
> drinking problem.
>
> > out of Thurgood's bed so that they
> > can frolic as you gasp for life, as you did to your predecessor,
>
> My husband's first wife died of cancer of the privates YEARS before I
> married him.
I mean the woman NOW known as Lilith van Bohlen
>
>
> > not known as Lilith van Bohlen, Lesbian activist?
> ^^^
>
> I'm sure glad the crazy old biddy finally admitted this person - me?
> Mother Sunshine? Katybelle Tucker? - is NOT known as Lilith van
> Bohlen, Luciferian activist. It's there in black and white for
> everybody to see.
She is known as Lilith van Bohlen, once Thurgood's lawful wife
You remember her, the woman that you rolled out of Thurgood's bed when she was critically
ill so that you and he could continue your disgusting affair.
>
>
> More wicked lezzie filth snipped.
She mans that she wishes the truth to go away
for those who missed it:
> I prayed and the Power of God flowed
> > straight thru me and restored lost cartilage miraculously. Cripples
> > regularly throw their crutches don at our revivals and waltz out after the
> > last altar call.
Or after they get SSDI awarded to turn over to your church and they no longer have to fake
an illness....
> I can even cure unnatural homo sexual lust thru prayer
> > and the laying on of hands in the right places.
I'll just guess where those places are....
> > If we pass God's tests He gives
> > us even bigger rewards - including sprawling mansions in heaven. When He
> > abandons the wicked, He gives them good things too - like nice cars,
>
> You mean like your Prius that you bilked elderly people out of their money
> for, Satanist?
That would be the one. Her "god" rewards her for predatory exploitation.
The Tuckers are so much like that mormon cult that was raided recently....
>
>
>
> Lesbo hell gets hotter every day. I'll pray for sinners that be saved
> still yet. For others there ain't no hope no more.
>
> Jesus saves thru His Holy Bible!
>
> Reverend Mother Lurlean Tucker
> The Lord's Special Healing Holy Woman
--
RedDog
wrote:
> On May 9, 12:53 am, Reverend Mother Tucker <mother-tuc...@wowmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 8, 5:11 am, Emerson Wainwright <emersonwainwri...@gmx.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > "Seeming"?
>
> > Yes. They seem like contradictions only to those of you with little
> > faith.
>
> I see. It's a good thing you have faith. Must save you a lot of $$$
> on doctor bills and prescriptions and the like.
>
> Anyway, let's take the example of Joseph's father.
>
> In Matthew, it says that Jacob (A) was the father of Joseph.
>
> Oh! But in Luke it says that Heli (non-A) was the father of Joseph.
>
> So you're believing that A = non-A. Which makes me wonder if you've
> ever successfully completed a course in basic arithmetic.
>
> Now, it COULD be true that Joseph had two daddies. Jacob and Heli
> might have been Lovers, raising Joseph. This would make sense because
> Joseph was clearly a liberal -- he helped out an unmarried pregnant
> slut named Mary by marrying her so she wouldn't be killed for her
> whoredom!
>
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Otherwise, though, one of the statements must be false. And if one of
> the statements is false, that means that your Bible is not inerrant.
>
> > To True Believers like me they're just tests of our confidence
> > in God's promises. He promised quite an extraordinary fate for homo
> > sexuals like you
>
> He loves the Homos. That's why he named humans "homo sapiens".
>
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
> > I prayed and the Power of God flowed straight thru me
>
> That is DISGUSTING!! I hope you used condoms.
>
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
> > > NB: 2 Timothy 3:16 was written BY A MAN.
>
> > CORRECTION: The sacred text was TRANSCRIBED by a saint writing under
> > direct Divine inspiration.>
> CORRECTIONS: There were no saints and there is no evidence of
> "Divine" inspiration, unless by "Divine" you mean "Mythological and
> Error-Filled".
>
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's no question about that!
> > > LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > God doesn't appreciate your mockery!
>
> Prove it.
>
> > Do you want to wind up in an
> > even hotter crag in hell that the one the devil's got all stoked up
> > and red hot for you right now?
>
> I'm going straight to Heaven, as you indicate above. Gonna hang with
> my bro', Gay Jesus. I'll probably put him on my "lap" after I have
> him brush his teeth and give him a good scrubbing down.
>
ROTFLMAO!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations, Scotty! This may very well be the best APH post of
all time!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Baker
> On May 9, 10:23 pm, Christ's Love <christsag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I! Each and every one
>> of you!
>
> I think Bill Baker is an exception.
Yes, but you worship Satan.
> He has openly and repeatedly blasphemed the Holy Spirit in public - a
> using obscene language at that. You now what the Bible says about
> people that does that!
I know what Satan tells you the Bible says.
> Billions will burn!
According to your master, Satan.
> Mother Lurlean Tucker Don't accept no substitutes
--
Bushism 4-18:
"I want to appreciate those of you who wear our nation's uniform for
your sacrifice."
--Jacksonville, Florida; January 14, 2005
Dr. Thurgood Tucker
[Nothing worth repeating.]
Have you done something cruel to my beloved wife?
Laying the TOTAL Gospel Truth on the line for vengeful sinners every
day,
Reverend Dr. TRUTH
The Lord's Right Hand Holy Man
Bill Baker
<father...@wowmail.com> wrote in message
news:<5c506afd-5813-42d4...@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com>...
> On May 10, 3:02 pm, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
>
> [Nothing worth repeating.]
Translation: Nothing you could refute.
> Have you done something cruel to my beloved wife?
No crueler than you taking advantage of her gullibility and naïveté in order
to recruit her to worship Satan. Why?
> Laying the TOTAL Gospel Truth on the line for vengeful sinners every
> day,
>
>
> Reverend Dr. TRUTH
> The Lord's Right Hand Holy Man
--
Bushism 3-8:
"The administration I'll bring is a group of men and women who are focused
on what's best for America, honest men and women, decent men and women,
women who will see service to our country as a great privilege and who will
not stain the house."
--Des Moines, Iowa; January 15, 2000
C M de Medici
"Dr. Thurgood Tucker" wrote:
> On May 10, 3:02 pm, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
>
> [Nothing worth repeating.]
>
> Have you done something cruel to my beloved wife?
Well, I helped your ex set up her advertising for Rainbow Flags and Gay
Pride Banners.
She and Gisele are in Provincetown for Women's Week, both selling the
banners and flags and enjoying the music and the shows.
Her skills as a seamstress certainly have been a goddess-send for the
LGBT rights movement.
C M de Medici
"Dr. Thurgood Tucker" wrote:
Oh, wish me happy mother's day as well as congratulations.
C M de Medici
"Dr. Thurgood Tucker" wrote:
> On May 10, 3:02 pm, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
>
> [Nothing worth repeating.]
>
> Have you done something cruel to my beloved wife?
Your current beloved wife
Formerly Sinshine?
The woman who rolled your critically ill wife out of her marital bed
The now ex-wife who is legally married to Gisele van Bohlen and
celebrating at Women's Week at Provincetown...
>
>
> Laying the TOTAL Gospel Truth on the line for vengeful sinners every
> day,
>
> Reverend Dr. TRUTH
> The Lord's Right Hand Holy Man
--