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Budikka666
Oct 15, 2012, 5:02:19 PM10/15/12
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14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
wanting nothing more than an education:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
and worse in Biblical times.
It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
Budikka
wanting nothing more than an education:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
and worse in Biblical times.
It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
Budikka
Andrew
Oct 15, 2012, 6:08:03 PM10/15/12
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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
Why have you not -also- noted what they
did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
Why is that?
Explain.
He did all things well.
He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
..and murdered Him.
Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
for them.
"I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
Why is that?
Explain.
He did all things well.
He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
..and murdered Him.
Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
for them.
"I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 15, 2012, 6:55:27 PM10/15/12
to
In article
<2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
they do kill her.
But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
<2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
they do kill her.
But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
fasgnadh
Oct 15, 2012, 7:56:51 PM10/15/12
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Jeanne Douglas joins the atheist witch hunt:
> budikka the bile filled bigot screeched;
"Clerics in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Quetta and
other cities condemned the attack and termed it as un-Islamic and said
Islam doesn’t allow terrorism and killing of children and women."
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/10/12/pakistani-clerics-condemn-talibans-attack-on-malala/#.UHyYjWe6_YQ
"Muslim women react to Pakistan girl's shooting"
"As Malala Yousafzai fights for her life after having a bullet removed
from her neck at a hospital in Peshawar, an outpouring of shock, grief
and anger has swept across Pakistan and the world."
except for the hate filled atheist bigots! 8^o
While Islamic Clerics join other Pakistani Muslims, and those around the
world to condemn the Taliban, these atheist propagandists
use this child to attack them.
What a disgrace, they are no better than the Taliban.
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this
The Muslims you hate-filled bigots brand as ALL "CRAZY" and the
Christians were all condemning the Taliban.. while you scum are trying
to use that poor child's shooting to whip up hysterical hatred of them
ALL for doing so!!!!
WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING CRITICISM OF THE TALIBAN THUGS ONTO
THOSE WHO CONDEMN THEM!?!!!!!!
You are no better than the Taliban you protect - THEY SHOOT THE
INNOCENT.. YOU BLAME THE INNOCENT,
in both cases your HATE consumes your reason.
>> and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors.
Ok if you hold ALL religious collectively responsible for
the actions of ANY one claiming to be one of them, then
they will hold all atheists responsible for the 80,000,000
people tortured, terrorised and killed in the atheist regimes
of the 20th century, far more than the death toll of any religion
in history, and far more recent than the events you dredge up from
CENTURIES AGO!
Your malign hatred matches that of the atheist tyrannies AND
the Taliban.
>> The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
Wow, you vile anti-semite, you even try to use this Taliban
atrocity to attack the Jews!! 8^o
>> It's not *the* religion,
That's right, harming innocents is CONDEMNED by the religion.
And carried out by the Taliban, and YOU!
8^o
> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> they do kill her.
"They" being the Taliban, condemned by Muslims and Christians alike..
and yet you atheists use this crime to condemn the VAST MAJORITY of
innocent Muslims and Christians and Jews!?!!!!
And you use the same tactics the Nazis used, they would focus on an
individual criminal who was Jewish and BLAME ALL JEWS... inciting
such hatred of the entire group that they could persecute and kill
6,000,000 of them.
And you are using the propaganda techniques of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and
Pol Pot, the leaders of the atheist tyrannies, to stir up hatred of all
religious so they could destroy their churches, temples and synagogues
and slaughter millions of them.
By YOUR sick doctrine of Collective Responsibility, blaming ALL
religious for the actions of a tiny, unrepresentative minority CLAIMING
to be religious, but acting CONTRARY to the teachings of every religion,
you atheists are guilty of the murder of 80,000,000 victims of
the atheist states in the 20th century, and there is nothing in the
teachings of atheism which prohibits such terror, torture and mass murder.
So, not only you, but ATHEISM ITSELF, stands condemned by YOUR standard.
> But this seems to have triggered something--
Among decent folk, Muslim, Christian and Jews.
Muslim women and
> girls all over Pakistan are
> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
And yet you malign atheist trolls condemn ALL religious, including them!
pfffttt!
Your irrational, hate-filled ranting condemns YOU!
--
The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/
- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm
---------
alt.atheism FAQ:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
> budikka the bile filled bigot screeched;
>
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
"Pakistani clerics condemn Taliban’s attack on Malala"
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
"Clerics in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Quetta and
other cities condemned the attack and termed it as un-Islamic and said
Islam doesn’t allow terrorism and killing of children and women."
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/10/12/pakistani-clerics-condemn-talibans-attack-on-malala/#.UHyYjWe6_YQ
"Muslim women react to Pakistan girl's shooting"
"As Malala Yousafzai fights for her life after having a bullet removed
from her neck at a hospital in Peshawar, an outpouring of shock, grief
and anger has swept across Pakistan and the world."
except for the hate filled atheist bigots! 8^o
While Islamic Clerics join other Pakistani Muslims, and those around the
world to condemn the Taliban, these atheist propagandists
use this child to attack them.
What a disgrace, they are no better than the Taliban.
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this
Christians were all condemning the Taliban.. while you scum are trying
to use that poor child's shooting to whip up hysterical hatred of them
ALL for doing so!!!!
WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING CRITICISM OF THE TALIBAN THUGS ONTO
THOSE WHO CONDEMN THEM!?!!!!!!
You are no better than the Taliban you protect - THEY SHOOT THE
INNOCENT.. YOU BLAME THE INNOCENT,
in both cases your HATE consumes your reason.
>> and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors.
the actions of ANY one claiming to be one of them, then
they will hold all atheists responsible for the 80,000,000
people tortured, terrorised and killed in the atheist regimes
of the 20th century, far more than the death toll of any religion
in history, and far more recent than the events you dredge up from
CENTURIES AGO!
Your malign hatred matches that of the atheist tyrannies AND
the Taliban.
>> The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
atrocity to attack the Jews!! 8^o
>> It's not *the* religion,
And carried out by the Taliban, and YOU!
8^o
> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> they do kill her.
and yet you atheists use this crime to condemn the VAST MAJORITY of
innocent Muslims and Christians and Jews!?!!!!
And you use the same tactics the Nazis used, they would focus on an
individual criminal who was Jewish and BLAME ALL JEWS... inciting
such hatred of the entire group that they could persecute and kill
6,000,000 of them.
And you are using the propaganda techniques of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and
Pol Pot, the leaders of the atheist tyrannies, to stir up hatred of all
religious so they could destroy their churches, temples and synagogues
and slaughter millions of them.
By YOUR sick doctrine of Collective Responsibility, blaming ALL
religious for the actions of a tiny, unrepresentative minority CLAIMING
to be religious, but acting CONTRARY to the teachings of every religion,
you atheists are guilty of the murder of 80,000,000 victims of
the atheist states in the 20th century, and there is nothing in the
teachings of atheism which prohibits such terror, torture and mass murder.
So, not only you, but ATHEISM ITSELF, stands condemned by YOUR standard.
> But this seems to have triggered something--
Muslim women and
> girls all over Pakistan are
> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
pfffttt!
Your irrational, hate-filled ranting condemns YOU!
--
The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/
- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm
---------
alt.atheism FAQ:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
Smiler
Oct 15, 2012, 10:18:54 PM10/15/12
to
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:08:03 -0700, Andrew wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are, bombing
>> clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this and worse in
>> Biblical times.
>>
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>
>>
>> Budikka
>
>
> Why have you not -also- noted what they did to our Lord and Savior Jesus
> Christ?
>
>
> Why is that?
Because he's just a character in a fictional story.
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are, bombing
>> clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this and worse in
>> Biblical times.
>>
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>
>>
>> Budikka
>
>
> Why have you not -also- noted what they did to our Lord and Savior Jesus
> Christ?
>
>
> Why is that?
>
> Explain.
>
> He did all things well.
ever existed to do anything.
>
> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>
>
> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously, ..and murdered
> Him.
>
>
> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory to take His
> people to the places that He has gone to prepare for them.
>
> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me
> where I am." John 14:2-3
meaning to us as do quotes from Harry Potter stories have to you.
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
Uergil
Oct 15, 2012, 10:28:56 PM10/15/12
to
In article <IbqdnSkmM5lHFeHN...@earthlink.com>,
and that the Romans executed him.
But there is no objective physical evidence that either actually
occurred.
reincarnation has believed "He" would come and get THEM, but "He" has
not come for any of them.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> > 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
> > wanting nothing more than an education:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
> >
> > Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> > doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> > bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> > and worse in Biblical times.
> >
> > It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
> >
> >
> > Budikka
>
>
> Why have you not -also- noted what they
> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>
>
> Why is that?
>
>
> Explain.
>
>
> He did all things well.
>
>
> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
He is at least said to have done so/
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> > 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
> > wanting nothing more than an education:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
> >
> > Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> > doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> > bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> > and worse in Biblical times.
> >
> > It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
> >
> >
> > Budikka
>
>
> Why have you not -also- noted what they
> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>
>
> Why is that?
>
>
> Explain.
>
>
> He did all things well.
>
>
> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>
>
> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
> ..and murdered Him.
It is certainly alleged that groups of jews treated him contemptuously
>
> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
> ..and murdered Him.
and that the Romans executed him.
But there is no objective physical evidence that either actually
occurred.
>
>
> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
> for them.
>
> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
And each of about a thousand generations since "His" alleged
>
> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
> for them.
>
> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
reincarnation has believed "He" would come and get THEM, but "He" has
not come for any of them.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
Dakota
Oct 16, 2012, 12:21:07 AM10/16/12
to
On 10/15/2012 5:55 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article
> <2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
> Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
>
Not so long ago as that. Christians in Africa were killing child
> In article
> <2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
> Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
>
'witches' in 2008 and are probably doing so today.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5rkqpk
>
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>
> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> they do kill her.
>
> But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
>
I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives. It's tragic
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>
> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> they do kill her.
>
> But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
>
that it may take the murder of a child to turn the Pakistani people
against the Taliban and those like them.
Kelsey Bjarnason
Oct 16, 2012, 12:41:48 AM10/16/12
to
[snips]
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:18:54 +0100, Smiler wrote:
>> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>>
>>
> And King Kong scaled the Empire State Building.
>
>
>> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously, ..and murdered
>> Him.
>>
>>
> Yep. They murdered King Kong.
>
>
>> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory to take His
>> people to the places that He has gone to prepare for them.
>
> Evidence?
Well, King Kong got a remake or two, so... :)
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:18:54 +0100, Smiler wrote:
>> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>>
>>
> And King Kong scaled the Empire State Building.
>
>
>> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously, ..and murdered
>> Him.
>>
>>
> Yep. They murdered King Kong.
>
>
>> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory to take His
>> people to the places that He has gone to prepare for them.
>
> Evidence?
SkyEyes
Oct 16, 2012, 3:38:17 AM10/16/12
to
On Oct 15, 9:21 pm, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 5:55 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:> In article
> > <2018b223-b3a2-426d-9aed-bd1841f0b...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
> On 10/15/2012 5:55 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:> In article
> > Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
> >> wanting nothing more than an education:
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>
> >> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> >> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> >> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> >> and worse in Biblical times.
>
> Not so long ago as that. Christians in Africa were killing child
> 'witches' in 2008 and are probably doing so today.
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/5rkqpk
>
> >> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>
> > And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> > they do kill her.
>
> > But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
> > wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
>
> I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives. It's tragic
> that it may take the murder of a child to turn the Pakistani people
> against the Taliban and those like them.
She's hanging in there, it seems, and now that they've airlifted her
>
> >> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
> >> wanting nothing more than an education:
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>
> >> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> >> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> >> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> >> and worse in Biblical times.
>
> Not so long ago as that. Christians in Africa were killing child
> 'witches' in 2008 and are probably doing so today.
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/5rkqpk
>
> >> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>
> > And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> > they do kill her.
>
> > But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
> > wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
>
> I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives. It's tragic
> that it may take the murder of a child to turn the Pakistani people
> against the Taliban and those like them.
to the U.K., you can be assured that she's getting first-rate care.
I'm going to think positive and assume that she's going to make a full
recover.
I want one each of those caps and t-shirts. I don't suppose you have
a link to where I can order them?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 16, 2012, 4:23:15 AM10/16/12
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In article
<49e3aaea-7c46-4bc8...@a4g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
Oh, I have no doubt. That girl's a fighter.
> I want one each of those caps and t-shirts. I don't suppose you have
> a link to where I can order them?
I'm not finding anything yet. I guess the entrepreneurs haven't kicked
in yet. I sure hope anybody who prints this stuff up donates a
substantial amount of the proceeds to either Malala's care or to support
for the kids who are protesting.
<49e3aaea-7c46-4bc8...@a4g2000pbo.googlegroups.com>,
> I want one each of those caps and t-shirts. I don't suppose you have
> a link to where I can order them?
in yet. I sure hope anybody who prints this stuff up donates a
substantial amount of the proceeds to either Malala's care or to support
for the kids who are protesting.
DonH
Oct 16, 2012, 1:59:08 PM10/16/12
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"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6p1fs.143$1k5...@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
# Well, well, dear old fangnasher tries to distinguish between different
types of religionists, while simultaneously having a go at his hated
atheists.
Yes, a Taliban Civilisation does seem a long stretch.
"Fasgnadh" claims to be an agnostic, but is he really a theist in
disguise (wolf in sheep's clothing)? His constant apologetics for religion
would seem to hint at it.
news:6p1fs.143$1k5...@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
types of religionists, while simultaneously having a go at his hated
atheists.
Yes, a Taliban Civilisation does seem a long stretch.
"Fasgnadh" claims to be an agnostic, but is he really a theist in
disguise (wolf in sheep's clothing)? His constant apologetics for religion
would seem to hint at it.
default
Oct 16, 2012, 3:42:07 PM10/16/12
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:21:07 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
>I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives.
WTF? What part of "freedom isn't free" don't you get?
The only thing people understand is bloodshed - and then, only if it
is their own blood.
The heroes deserve our respect, not our applause.
wrote:
>I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives.
The only thing people understand is bloodshed - and then, only if it
is their own blood.
The heroes deserve our respect, not our applause.
Smiler
Oct 16, 2012, 7:10:36 PM10/16/12
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fasgnadh
Oct 16, 2012, 7:41:16 PM10/16/12
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DonH avoids the issues:
It should be clear to any rational reader that the vile actions of the
Taliban have been condemned by Islamic and other religious authorities.
But the atheists choose to ignore the facts and BLAME ALL RELIGIOUS
PEOPLE, .. not just ALL MUslims, which would be a clear injustice
when the vast majority of them are the VICTIMS of the Taliban and
condemn their actions, but even CHRISTIANS!!???
Can anyone explain the actions of these atheists, other than a blind
hatred as deep as the Talibans?
Lets see how DonH, the only atheist brave enough to even respond,
explains this irrational attack on Muslims, Christians and Jews....
>> http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/10/12/pakistani-clerics-condemn-talibans-attack-on-malala/#.UHyYjWe6_YQ
>>
>> "Muslim women react to Pakistan girl's shooting"
>>
Malala is a Muslim. Almost ALL of the VICTIMS of the Taliban are Muslim.
Atheists are blaming the VICTIMS, not the Taliban!
>> "As Malala Yousafzai fights for her life after having a bullet removed
>> from her neck at a hospital in Peshawar, an outpouring of shock, grief and
>> anger has swept across Pakistan and the world."
>>
>> except for the hate filled atheist bigots! 8^o
>>
>> While Islamic Clerics join other Pakistani Muslims, and those around the
>> world to condemn the Taliban, these atheist propagandists
>> use this child to attack them.
>>
>> What a disgrace, they are no better than the Taliban.
So, Don, how do you explain this atheist response, which tries
to equate the Taliban not only with their victims, MUSLIMS, but also
with Christians! 8^o 8^o
>>
>>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>>> doing this
Don, as the atheist who has chosen to defend this atheist liars
disgraceful slander, just tell us when and where you hate-filled bigots
claim Christians shot Malala Yousafzai.
If you can't, you all stand condemned for DEFENDING the Taliban by
blaming the innocents you try to persecute, just as EVERY atheist regime
in history has done {copious evidence for MY accusations will be
provided on request, NONE is ever provided for the vile atheist
hate-speech)
>> The Muslims you hate-filled bigots brand as ALL "CRAZY" and the Christians
>> were all condemning the Taliban.. while you scum are trying to use that
>> poor child's shooting to whip up hysterical hatred of them ALL for doing
>> so!!!!
>>
>> WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING CRITICISM OF THE TALIBAN THUGS ONTO
>> THOSE WHO CONDEMN THEM!?!!!!!!
Apparently the atheists HAVE NO ANSWER.. it is pure, hate-filled
bigotry on their part, with no foundation in fact.
>> You are no better than the Taliban you protect - THEY SHOOT THE INNOCENT..
>> YOU BLAME THE INNOCENT,
>> in both cases your HATE consumes your reason.
>>
>>
>>>> and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors.
some? You hold ALL Muslims and ALL Christians responsible
for the actions of some tiny, unrepresentative MINORITY of
believers 5 centuries ago? 8^o How IRRATIONAL!
Your Doctrine of Collective Responsibility, the same basis on which
Nazis killed whole villages whenever a partisan attack on them occurred
nearby, has dire consequences for atheists, given that EVERY atheist
regime in history was a murderous tyranny.
>> Ok if you hold ALL religious collectively responsible for
>> the actions of ANY one claiming to be one of them, then
>> they will hold all atheists responsible for the 80,000,000
>> people tortured, terrorised and killed in the atheist regimes
>> of the 20th century, far more than the death toll of any religion
>> in history, and far more recent than the events you dredge up from
>> CENTURIES AGO!
>>
>> Your malign hatred matches that of the atheist tyrannies AND
>> the Taliban.
>>
These hate filled atheists even reveal further links with Nazis,
their anti-semitism holds all jews responsible for events described
in the Bible they keep telling us is not real evidence of anything! 8^o
Their hatred is only exceeded by their hypocrisy;
>>>> The Judaists were doing this
>>>> and worse in Biblical times.
Anyone ever heard any evidence of this atheist claim that Jews
shot Malala?
They appear to be as INSANE as the conspiracy nuts who claim that the
USA blew up the WTC! 8^o
>> Wow, you vile anti-semite, you even try to use this Taliban
>> atrocity to attack the Jews!! 8^o
>>
>>>> It's not *the* religion,
>>
>> That's right, harming innocents is CONDEMNED by the religion.
>>
>> And carried out by the Taliban, and YOU!
And yet blaming the innocents is EXACTLY what these hate-filled
atheist bigots do, slandering the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, Bob Marley,
Buddhist monks, Muslim children like Malala, choir boys, President
Obama, ..all of the 75% of the worlds population who are believers:
>>>> it's religion period.
>>
>> 8^o
So there you have the atheists Evil theory of Collective Responsibility.
They hold ALL RELIGION responsible for the actions of the Taliban
shooting one innocent girl who dared to speak against such ignorance,
bigotry and hate!
Well, I don't hold All atheists guilty of the bigotry of Bukakke and
Jeanne, just those who make themselves complicit by SUPPORTING their
vile slanders in USENET, Youtube and every other atheist venue where
they claim atheism is 'no more than non-belief in something' and then
spend all day spouting this anti-religious hate-speech.
Exposing them is easy. As you can all see, they run away.. only DonH
responds with his feeble apologias, avoiding the issues and simply
engaging in speculative straw man attempts to shift ground to ad hom
attacks.. they always try to SHOOT THE MESSENGER when valid
condemnation of atheist propaganda and hate speech is made.
>>> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
>>> they do kill her.
>>
>> "They" being the Taliban, condemned by Muslims and Christians alike..
>>
>> and yet you atheists use this crime to condemn the VAST MAJORITY of
>> innocent Muslims and Christians and Jews!?!!!!
Shameful.
And DonH demonstrates the atheists have no argument, no rebuttal.
>> And you use the same tactics the Nazis used, they would focus on an
>> individual criminal who was Jewish and BLAME ALL JEWS... inciting
>> such hatred of the entire group that they could persecute and kill
>> 6,000,000 of them.
>>
>> And you are using the propaganda techniques of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol
>> Pot, the leaders of the atheist tyrannies, to stir up hatred of all
>> religious so they could destroy their churches, temples and synagogues and
>> slaughter millions of them.
>>
>> By YOUR sick doctrine of Collective Responsibility, blaming ALL religious
>> for the actions of a tiny, unrepresentative minority CLAIMING
>> to be religious, but acting CONTRARY to the teachings of every religion,
>> you atheists are guilty of the murder of 80,000,000 victims of
>> the atheist states in the 20th century, and there is nothing in the
>> teachings of atheism which prohibits such terror, torture and mass murder.
>>
>> So, not only you, but ATHEISM ITSELF, stands condemned by YOUR standard.
>>
>>
>>> But this seems to have triggered something--
>>
>> Among decent folk, Muslim, Christian and Jews.
>>
>> Muslim women and
>>
>>> girls all over Pakistan are
>>> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
>>
>>
>> And yet you malign atheist trolls condemn ALL religious, including them!
>>
>> pfffttt!
>>
>> Your irrational, hate-filled ranting condemns YOU!
>
That is the classic definition of BLIND BIGOTRY.
> while simultaneously having a go at his hated atheists.
I don't hate atheists, en bloc, I just critique the hate-filled bigots,
and their apologists, like you.
Unlike you bigots, I can DISTINGUISH between intelligent non-believers
such as Alain de Botton, Phillip Adams, Brian Eno, all of whom can
distinguish between the Inquisition and the Methodist ladies Cake Stall,
and you poor, hate-filled bigots who can't even tell the diffeerence
between a Taliban and a Sikh.
I post because it is hate filled bigots like you, who can't "distinguish
between different types of religionists" and claim that
those who can are wrong, who bashed Sikhs during the Cronulla riots,
thinking they were Muslims because of their turbans!
Distinguishing between the actions of "Humans" and the INDIVIDUALS
WHO COMMIT CRIMES is they only defence we Humans have against bigots
such as you who condemn us all for the actions of OTHERS unrelated to us
except by a CATEGORY LABEL, 'women', 'Jews', 'blacks', 'Muslims'.
I wait till you ACT like a hate-filled bigot before I brand you as one.
> Yes,
And all you can do in response is ignore what I say, try and
misrepresent it, create straw man attempts to shift ground
and hide in irrelevant blather;
> a Taliban Civilisation does seem a long stretch.
Of course, all the great and enduring civilisations are BASED ON
the spiritual teachings that provide their values.
The Taliban ignore the teachings of Islam, as all the Muslim authorities
who condemn their actions point out.
Only the Taliban and their supporters, including you and your atheist
propaganda allies, claim that the Taliban are the true religion, and the
1,600,000,000 million Muslims who denounce them, are the same as them.
The Taliban's goal in conflating themselves with Islam is that when
bigots like you, or George Bush, attack Iraq, which had nothing to do
with 9/11, they say to Muslims, "see, they hate you all, join us in
fighting them". Bigotry such as yours provides recruits for the
hate-filled bigots on 'their' side.. which provides recruits for the
hate filled bigots on 'our' side.
Which is why it is essential to distinguish who the 'sides' are.
To me it's between 'humans' of all ethnicity, gender, beliefs.. and
those who want to create division based on any of those meta-categories.
> "Fasgnadh" claims to be an agnostic,
It's easy to prove.
You PROVE that there is no God, or PROVE that there is a God,
and I will no longer be an agnostic.
Look, we have all seen how you bigots simple LABEL people
according to YOUR PREJUDICES and propaganda lies..you
do that because you can't rationally argue the facts I present
so you try to slander and lie about ME...
Atheists have apparently run that same scam on Neil de Grassi Tyson,
falsely claiming he's an atheist, even after he has categorically said
he isn't;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos
If you talk about this atheist slander, then, like Scientologists,
they attack you, not your argument, by ASSERTING their labels about you
and debating their own straw man fabrications!
> but is he really a theist in disguise
How would that alter your inability to refute my argument???
> (wolf in sheep's clothing)?
You even try to steal and invert the Christian metaphors! B^D
Jesus was the Lamb, who warned about wolves..
how amusing to see atheists so clearly influenced by His teachings that
they pay Him the ultimate compliment, they steal it!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
[ I have capitalized the pronoun references to Jesus to fuel
your paranoi! ]
B^D
> His constant apologetics for religion
> would seem to hint at it.
I defend Jews from anti-semites and you claim that makes me a Jew ?
pfffft!
I defend Christians from atheist bigots who blame them for shooting
Malawi and you claim that makes me a Christian?
pfffft!
I defend Alain de Botton, Phillip Adams, Brian Eno, Kurt Vonnegut
and the late Richard Feynman from your insane bigots view that
i condemn ALL atheists as bigots, and that makes me an atheist?
B^D
You lying hate filled bigots have dome NOTHING BUT LIE ABOUT ME
since I got here and started discussing the hate-filled bigotry
of USENET atheists and the catastrophic failure of every atheist
state in history;
Examples of atheist lies about the critic they can't refute:
Olrik claims he has a Divine Right to lie about you
if he doesn't know the truth(which is always):
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.religion
# Subject: Re: fasgnadh is defective
# Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:31:59 -0400
# Message-ID: <huh7l5$tss$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# I can claim whatever I want. One day I say you're an atheist,
# then I claim you're a muslim.
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: fasgnadh is an atheist
# Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:49:38 -0500
# Message-ID: <hd5m8q$91a$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# fasgnadh is an atheist.
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.Islam,alt.politics.republicans
# Subject: Re: The new video from Pat Condell -- fasgnadh is a muslim
# Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:13:01 -0400
# Message-ID: <hufap5$ghh$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# Oh look!
#
# It's fasgnadh, a.a.'s very own islamist!
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.islam,alt.religion
# Subject: Re: Communist states - the Historical Reality
# Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:12:48 -0400
# Message-ID: <hucmco$5v5$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# fasgnadh is still an atheist, and the poor thing
# still refuses to admit it.
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.usenet.kooks
# Subject: Re: Atheist liars Syd Moron, China Glue and Olrik the
# Unworthy unable to show proof of a lie -
# demonstrates their absence of honesty... again! B^D
# Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
#Message-ID:<01b9d8cf-d902-4fea...@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
# On 31 Mrz., 22:54, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
# > Olrik joins the atheist liar tag team B^D :
#
# Fagsnag
#
# he's a closet theist.
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:28:41 -0400
# Message-ID: <hp0b9v$ols$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# fasgnadh,why don't you once and for all admit that you're an atheist ?
#
# It'd be the right thing to do.
One atheist tried to warn Olrik the Unworthy
that he was making a fool of himself, but he's too
foolish to listen:
# From: raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.religion,
# alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,
# uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,alt.politics.communism
# Subject: Re: The Decline of alt atheism - and time to say farewell to
the most trivial and useless branch of Nihilism! B^D
# Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:26:06 -0400
# Message-ID: <n4ofb51jvj209trfh...@4ax.com>
#
# > Dear old "fasgnadh" asserts his deity exists, but can't prove it.
#
# Fasgnadh has never asserted that a deity exists, and recently admitted
# to being agnostic. He's not here to push a deity, he's here to push
# peoples buttons.
Pushing the button of atheist bigots requires hardly any effort:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9tsuLU0jfPU/S_vwUo7hMeI/AAAAAAAAAEY/RonfSYNOVbw/s1600/easy-button.jpg
Despite all their lies about me, my critique has proven so powerful that
alt.atheism has witnessed a massive exodus, most recently they
fled to a moderated sheltered workshop, alt.atheism.moderated, which
is moribund because no debate means terminal coma!
It is deeply satisfying to see that I only have to post at regular
intervals to see them all run for cover, leaving me unimpeeded in
presenting the facts about atheism in history to any who wander by.
I have achieved my goal, the scalps of the worst atheist bigots
hang over my mantlepiece, the rest are too intimidated to respond, they
have no raqtional argument, no rebuttal, only this pitiful ad hom from
the remnant atheist bigots who can't manage a rational refutation.
Now, observe the threads with active atheist participation,
they only feel comfortable arguing with the fundies, whose limited
intellectual capacities match their own.
Total Victory. B^]
--
When it was revealed that alt.atheism.moderated.by.bigots.and.trolls
was declining in it's daily traffic, Mike Lenin from Pravda
Propaganda set about to "FIX" it: B^D
# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: The atheism is faith based destruction question
# Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:24:25 -0500
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: AA: What happens after you die
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
atheist parasites SIPHON your posts! B^D
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> "fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6p1fs.143$1k5...@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>> Jeanne Douglas joins the atheist witch hunt:
>>> budikka the bile filled bigot screeched;
>>>
>>>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>>>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>> "Pakistani clerics condemn Taliban�s attack on Malala"
> news:6p1fs.143$1k5...@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>> Jeanne Douglas joins the atheist witch hunt:
>>> budikka the bile filled bigot screeched;
>>>
>>>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>>>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>>
>> "Clerics in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Quetta and
>> other cities condemned the attack and termed it as un-Islamic and said
>> Islam doesn�t allow terrorism and killing of children and women."
>> "Clerics in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Quetta and
>> other cities condemned the attack and termed it as un-Islamic and said
It should be clear to any rational reader that the vile actions of the
Taliban have been condemned by Islamic and other religious authorities.
But the atheists choose to ignore the facts and BLAME ALL RELIGIOUS
PEOPLE, .. not just ALL MUslims, which would be a clear injustice
when the vast majority of them are the VICTIMS of the Taliban and
condemn their actions, but even CHRISTIANS!!???
Can anyone explain the actions of these atheists, other than a blind
hatred as deep as the Talibans?
Lets see how DonH, the only atheist brave enough to even respond,
explains this irrational attack on Muslims, Christians and Jews....
>> http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/10/12/pakistani-clerics-condemn-talibans-attack-on-malala/#.UHyYjWe6_YQ
>>
>> "Muslim women react to Pakistan girl's shooting"
>>
Atheists are blaming the VICTIMS, not the Taliban!
>> "As Malala Yousafzai fights for her life after having a bullet removed
>> from her neck at a hospital in Peshawar, an outpouring of shock, grief and
>> anger has swept across Pakistan and the world."
>>
>> except for the hate filled atheist bigots! 8^o
>>
>> While Islamic Clerics join other Pakistani Muslims, and those around the
>> world to condemn the Taliban, these atheist propagandists
>> use this child to attack them.
>>
>> What a disgrace, they are no better than the Taliban.
to equate the Taliban not only with their victims, MUSLIMS, but also
with Christians! 8^o 8^o
>>
>>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>>> doing this
disgraceful slander, just tell us when and where you hate-filled bigots
claim Christians shot Malala Yousafzai.
If you can't, you all stand condemned for DEFENDING the Taliban by
blaming the innocents you try to persecute, just as EVERY atheist regime
in history has done {copious evidence for MY accusations will be
provided on request, NONE is ever provided for the vile atheist
hate-speech)
>> The Muslims you hate-filled bigots brand as ALL "CRAZY" and the Christians
>> were all condemning the Taliban.. while you scum are trying to use that
>> poor child's shooting to whip up hysterical hatred of them ALL for doing
>> so!!!!
>>
>> WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING CRITICISM OF THE TALIBAN THUGS ONTO
>> THOSE WHO CONDEMN THEM!?!!!!!!
bigotry on their part, with no foundation in fact.
>> You are no better than the Taliban you protect - THEY SHOOT THE INNOCENT..
>> YOU BLAME THE INNOCENT,
>> in both cases your HATE consumes your reason.
>>
>>
>>>> and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors.
for the actions of some tiny, unrepresentative MINORITY of
believers 5 centuries ago? 8^o How IRRATIONAL!
Your Doctrine of Collective Responsibility, the same basis on which
Nazis killed whole villages whenever a partisan attack on them occurred
nearby, has dire consequences for atheists, given that EVERY atheist
regime in history was a murderous tyranny.
>> Ok if you hold ALL religious collectively responsible for
>> the actions of ANY one claiming to be one of them, then
>> they will hold all atheists responsible for the 80,000,000
>> people tortured, terrorised and killed in the atheist regimes
>> of the 20th century, far more than the death toll of any religion
>> in history, and far more recent than the events you dredge up from
>> CENTURIES AGO!
>>
>> Your malign hatred matches that of the atheist tyrannies AND
>> the Taliban.
>>
their anti-semitism holds all jews responsible for events described
in the Bible they keep telling us is not real evidence of anything! 8^o
Their hatred is only exceeded by their hypocrisy;
>>>> The Judaists were doing this
>>>> and worse in Biblical times.
shot Malala?
They appear to be as INSANE as the conspiracy nuts who claim that the
USA blew up the WTC! 8^o
>> Wow, you vile anti-semite, you even try to use this Taliban
>> atrocity to attack the Jews!! 8^o
>>
>>>> It's not *the* religion,
>>
>> That's right, harming innocents is CONDEMNED by the religion.
>>
>> And carried out by the Taliban, and YOU!
atheist bigots do, slandering the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, Bob Marley,
Buddhist monks, Muslim children like Malala, choir boys, President
Obama, ..all of the 75% of the worlds population who are believers:
>>>> it's religion period.
>>
>> 8^o
So there you have the atheists Evil theory of Collective Responsibility.
They hold ALL RELIGION responsible for the actions of the Taliban
shooting one innocent girl who dared to speak against such ignorance,
bigotry and hate!
Well, I don't hold All atheists guilty of the bigotry of Bukakke and
Jeanne, just those who make themselves complicit by SUPPORTING their
vile slanders in USENET, Youtube and every other atheist venue where
they claim atheism is 'no more than non-belief in something' and then
spend all day spouting this anti-religious hate-speech.
Exposing them is easy. As you can all see, they run away.. only DonH
responds with his feeble apologias, avoiding the issues and simply
engaging in speculative straw man attempts to shift ground to ad hom
attacks.. they always try to SHOOT THE MESSENGER when valid
condemnation of atheist propaganda and hate speech is made.
>>> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
>>> they do kill her.
>>
>> "They" being the Taliban, condemned by Muslims and Christians alike..
>>
>> and yet you atheists use this crime to condemn the VAST MAJORITY of
>> innocent Muslims and Christians and Jews!?!!!!
And DonH demonstrates the atheists have no argument, no rebuttal.
>> And you use the same tactics the Nazis used, they would focus on an
>> individual criminal who was Jewish and BLAME ALL JEWS... inciting
>> such hatred of the entire group that they could persecute and kill
>> 6,000,000 of them.
>>
>> And you are using the propaganda techniques of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol
>> Pot, the leaders of the atheist tyrannies, to stir up hatred of all
>> religious so they could destroy their churches, temples and synagogues and
>> slaughter millions of them.
>>
>> By YOUR sick doctrine of Collective Responsibility, blaming ALL religious
>> for the actions of a tiny, unrepresentative minority CLAIMING
>> to be religious, but acting CONTRARY to the teachings of every religion,
>> you atheists are guilty of the murder of 80,000,000 victims of
>> the atheist states in the 20th century, and there is nothing in the
>> teachings of atheism which prohibits such terror, torture and mass murder.
>>
>> So, not only you, but ATHEISM ITSELF, stands condemned by YOUR standard.
>>
>>
>>> But this seems to have triggered something--
>>
>> Among decent folk, Muslim, Christian and Jews.
>>
>> Muslim women and
>>
>>> girls all over Pakistan are
>>> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
>>
>>
>> And yet you malign atheist trolls condemn ALL religious, including them!
>>
>> pfffttt!
>>
>> Your irrational, hate-filled ranting condemns YOU!
>
> # Well, well, dear old fangnasher tries to distinguish between different
> types of religionists,
You mean you can't?
> types of religionists,
That is the classic definition of BLIND BIGOTRY.
> while simultaneously having a go at his hated atheists.
and their apologists, like you.
Unlike you bigots, I can DISTINGUISH between intelligent non-believers
such as Alain de Botton, Phillip Adams, Brian Eno, all of whom can
distinguish between the Inquisition and the Methodist ladies Cake Stall,
and you poor, hate-filled bigots who can't even tell the diffeerence
between a Taliban and a Sikh.
I post because it is hate filled bigots like you, who can't "distinguish
between different types of religionists" and claim that
those who can are wrong, who bashed Sikhs during the Cronulla riots,
thinking they were Muslims because of their turbans!
Distinguishing between the actions of "Humans" and the INDIVIDUALS
WHO COMMIT CRIMES is they only defence we Humans have against bigots
such as you who condemn us all for the actions of OTHERS unrelated to us
except by a CATEGORY LABEL, 'women', 'Jews', 'blacks', 'Muslims'.
I wait till you ACT like a hate-filled bigot before I brand you as one.
> Yes,
And all you can do in response is ignore what I say, try and
misrepresent it, create straw man attempts to shift ground
and hide in irrelevant blather;
> a Taliban Civilisation does seem a long stretch.
the spiritual teachings that provide their values.
The Taliban ignore the teachings of Islam, as all the Muslim authorities
who condemn their actions point out.
Only the Taliban and their supporters, including you and your atheist
propaganda allies, claim that the Taliban are the true religion, and the
1,600,000,000 million Muslims who denounce them, are the same as them.
The Taliban's goal in conflating themselves with Islam is that when
bigots like you, or George Bush, attack Iraq, which had nothing to do
with 9/11, they say to Muslims, "see, they hate you all, join us in
fighting them". Bigotry such as yours provides recruits for the
hate-filled bigots on 'their' side.. which provides recruits for the
hate filled bigots on 'our' side.
Which is why it is essential to distinguish who the 'sides' are.
To me it's between 'humans' of all ethnicity, gender, beliefs.. and
those who want to create division based on any of those meta-categories.
> "Fasgnadh" claims to be an agnostic,
You PROVE that there is no God, or PROVE that there is a God,
and I will no longer be an agnostic.
Look, we have all seen how you bigots simple LABEL people
according to YOUR PREJUDICES and propaganda lies..you
do that because you can't rationally argue the facts I present
so you try to slander and lie about ME...
Atheists have apparently run that same scam on Neil de Grassi Tyson,
falsely claiming he's an atheist, even after he has categorically said
he isn't;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos
If you talk about this atheist slander, then, like Scientologists,
they attack you, not your argument, by ASSERTING their labels about you
and debating their own straw man fabrications!
> but is he really a theist in disguise
> (wolf in sheep's clothing)?
Jesus was the Lamb, who warned about wolves..
how amusing to see atheists so clearly influenced by His teachings that
they pay Him the ultimate compliment, they steal it!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
[ I have capitalized the pronoun references to Jesus to fuel
your paranoi! ]
B^D
> His constant apologetics for religion
> would seem to hint at it.
pfffft!
I defend Christians from atheist bigots who blame them for shooting
Malawi and you claim that makes me a Christian?
pfffft!
I defend Alain de Botton, Phillip Adams, Brian Eno, Kurt Vonnegut
and the late Richard Feynman from your insane bigots view that
i condemn ALL atheists as bigots, and that makes me an atheist?
B^D
You lying hate filled bigots have dome NOTHING BUT LIE ABOUT ME
since I got here and started discussing the hate-filled bigotry
of USENET atheists and the catastrophic failure of every atheist
state in history;
Examples of atheist lies about the critic they can't refute:
Olrik claims he has a Divine Right to lie about you
if he doesn't know the truth(which is always):
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.religion
# Subject: Re: fasgnadh is defective
# Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:31:59 -0400
# Message-ID: <huh7l5$tss$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# I can claim whatever I want. One day I say you're an atheist,
# then I claim you're a muslim.
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: fasgnadh is an atheist
# Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:49:38 -0500
# Message-ID: <hd5m8q$91a$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# fasgnadh is an atheist.
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.Islam,alt.politics.republicans
# Subject: Re: The new video from Pat Condell -- fasgnadh is a muslim
# Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:13:01 -0400
# Message-ID: <hufap5$ghh$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# Oh look!
#
# It's fasgnadh, a.a.'s very own islamist!
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.islam,alt.religion
# Subject: Re: Communist states - the Historical Reality
# Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:12:48 -0400
# Message-ID: <hucmco$5v5$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# fasgnadh is still an atheist, and the poor thing
# still refuses to admit it.
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.usenet.kooks
# Subject: Re: Atheist liars Syd Moron, China Glue and Olrik the
# Unworthy unable to show proof of a lie -
# demonstrates their absence of honesty... again! B^D
# Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
#Message-ID:<01b9d8cf-d902-4fea...@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
# On 31 Mrz., 22:54, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
# > Olrik joins the atheist liar tag team B^D :
#
# Fagsnag
#
# he's a closet theist.
# From: Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com>
# Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:28:41 -0400
# Message-ID: <hp0b9v$ols$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
#
# fasgnadh,why don't you once and for all admit that you're an atheist ?
#
# It'd be the right thing to do.
One atheist tried to warn Olrik the Unworthy
that he was making a fool of himself, but he's too
foolish to listen:
# From: raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.religion,
# alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,
# uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,alt.politics.communism
# Subject: Re: The Decline of alt atheism - and time to say farewell to
the most trivial and useless branch of Nihilism! B^D
# Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:26:06 -0400
# Message-ID: <n4ofb51jvj209trfh...@4ax.com>
#
# > Dear old "fasgnadh" asserts his deity exists, but can't prove it.
#
# Fasgnadh has never asserted that a deity exists, and recently admitted
# to being agnostic. He's not here to push a deity, he's here to push
# peoples buttons.
Pushing the button of atheist bigots requires hardly any effort:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9tsuLU0jfPU/S_vwUo7hMeI/AAAAAAAAAEY/RonfSYNOVbw/s1600/easy-button.jpg
Despite all their lies about me, my critique has proven so powerful that
alt.atheism has witnessed a massive exodus, most recently they
fled to a moderated sheltered workshop, alt.atheism.moderated, which
is moribund because no debate means terminal coma!
It is deeply satisfying to see that I only have to post at regular
intervals to see them all run for cover, leaving me unimpeeded in
presenting the facts about atheism in history to any who wander by.
I have achieved my goal, the scalps of the worst atheist bigots
hang over my mantlepiece, the rest are too intimidated to respond, they
have no raqtional argument, no rebuttal, only this pitiful ad hom from
the remnant atheist bigots who can't manage a rational refutation.
Now, observe the threads with active atheist participation,
they only feel comfortable arguing with the fundies, whose limited
intellectual capacities match their own.
Total Victory. B^]
--
When it was revealed that alt.atheism.moderated.by.bigots.and.trolls
was declining in it's daily traffic, Mike Lenin from Pravda
Propaganda set about to "FIX" it: B^D
# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: The atheism is faith based destruction question
# Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:24:25 -0500
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
# From: Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
# Subject: AA: What happens after you die
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
atheist parasites SIPHON your posts! B^D
---------
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launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/
- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm
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"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!�
Ken
Oct 16, 2012, 7:59:26 PM10/16/12
to
Loads of worthless Fagsnatch rantings and ravings snipped (as a public
service)
service)
Ralph
Oct 16, 2012, 9:17:45 PM10/16/12
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On 10/16/2012 2:34 PM, Ralph wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 6:08 PM, Andrew wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
Yeah, the deaf could hear and the blind could see but he could never
master the art of regrowing limbs. Didn't
you ever wonder about that?????
> On 10/15/2012 6:08 PM, Andrew wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
master the art of regrowing limbs. Didn't
you ever wonder about that?????
Constance Knoring
Oct 16, 2012, 9:38:31 PM10/16/12
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Ken <flak...@aol.com> wrote in news:93c0dbc5-0186-4326-a1cf-b1fc9535f654
@q16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
> Loads of worthless Fagsnatch rantings and ravings snipped (as a public
> service)
>
>
is fagsnatch another fucktard religious shitfuck asshole??????????
@q16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
> Loads of worthless Fagsnatch rantings and ravings snipped (as a public
> service)
>
>
John Locke
Oct 16, 2012, 10:12:10 PM10/16/12
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:08:03 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
>>
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>
>>
>> Budikka
>
>
>Why have you not -also- noted what they
>did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>
>
>Why is that?
>
>
>Explain.
>
>
>He did all things well.
>
>
>He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>
>
>But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>..and murdered Him.
>
No no no. You Christians haven't even grasped the basics of your own
mythical theology. The Jews merely facilitated the death of your
savior. The suffering, torture and death on the cross was preplanned
by god/Jesus and needed to take place in order to save you from your
sins. However, it was just a hat trick considering Jesus was
sacrificing himself to himself and being he was part/all (who the fuck
knows) god he wouldn't have felt any pain and could have terminated
the process at any point in time. In any case, the whole idea was
senseless and pointless becuase if there were a god that god would
simply have forgiven sin outright. The concept of human sacrifice is
stracitly a human concoction derived from ancient religons which only
humans would employ.
I'd suggest that you switch your worship rituals to the Blue Fairy. It
would be a lot less morbid, vile, complicated, and confusing for you.
wrote:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
>>
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>
>>
>> Budikka
>
>
>Why have you not -also- noted what they
>did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>
>
>Why is that?
>
>
>Explain.
>
>
>He did all things well.
>
>
>He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>
>
>But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>..and murdered Him.
>
mythical theology. The Jews merely facilitated the death of your
savior. The suffering, torture and death on the cross was preplanned
by god/Jesus and needed to take place in order to save you from your
sins. However, it was just a hat trick considering Jesus was
sacrificing himself to himself and being he was part/all (who the fuck
knows) god he wouldn't have felt any pain and could have terminated
the process at any point in time. In any case, the whole idea was
senseless and pointless becuase if there were a god that god would
simply have forgiven sin outright. The concept of human sacrifice is
stracitly a human concoction derived from ancient religons which only
humans would employ.
I'd suggest that you switch your worship rituals to the Blue Fairy. It
would be a lot less morbid, vile, complicated, and confusing for you.
Les
Oct 17, 2012, 4:02:10 AM10/17/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:59:26 -0700 (PDT), Ken <flak...@aol.com>
wrote:
>Loads of worthless Fagsnatch rantings and ravings snipped (as a public
>service)
That's the ticket. It was just Chaff blowing in the wind. He leaves
his usual stink.
I am suprised you bothered responding we just mostly ignore
his rants these days, knowing what to expect.
Les Hellawell
Greeting from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
"In our more diverse and secular society, the place of religion has
come to be a matter of lively discussion. It is rightly acknowledged
that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue and that the wellbeing
and prosperity of the nation depend on the contribution of individuals
and groups of all faiths and of none. "
- Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
- from a speech to the Synond of the Church of England in 2010
wrote:
>Loads of worthless Fagsnatch rantings and ravings snipped (as a public
>service)
his usual stink.
I am suprised you bothered responding we just mostly ignore
his rants these days, knowing what to expect.
Les Hellawell
Greeting from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
"In our more diverse and secular society, the place of religion has
come to be a matter of lively discussion. It is rightly acknowledged
that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue and that the wellbeing
and prosperity of the nation depend on the contribution of individuals
and groups of all faiths and of none. "
- Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
- from a speech to the Synond of the Church of England in 2010
Dakota
Oct 17, 2012, 7:44:46 AM10/17/12
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On 10/16/2012 8:17 PM, Ralph wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 2:34 PM, Ralph wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 6:08 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>> "Budikka666" wrote in
>>> messagenews:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>>>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>>>
>>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>>>> and worse in Biblical times.
>>>>
>>>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>> Why have you not -also- noted what they
>>> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>>>
>>> Why is that?
>>>
>>> Explain.
>>>
>>> He did all things well.
>>
He is said to have made a very fine wine at a wedding but didn't think
> On 10/16/2012 2:34 PM, Ralph wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 6:08 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>> "Budikka666" wrote in
>>> messagenews:2018b223-b3a2-426d...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
>>>> wanting nothing more than an education:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
>>>>
>>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>>>> and worse in Biblical times.
>>>>
>>>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>> Why have you not -also- noted what they
>>> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>>>
>>> Why is that?
>>>
>>> Explain.
>>>
>>> He did all things well.
>>
to do so when he provided a fish and bread meal for a large gathering.
I guess it was a BYOB event.
He also had a violent temper like his dad. He once chased some
businessmen out of a temple with a whip and overturned their tables.
I'll admit it was rather tame compared to the slaughter of innocent
children in the Noah's flood, Egyptian plagues, and Job stories.
>>
>>> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see. >>
>>>
>>> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>>> ..and murdered Him.
>
He was convicted of a capital crime by a religious court and executed
>>> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see. >>
>>>
>>> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>>> ..and murdered Him.
>
by Roman pagans. Barabbas, a common criminal, had more fans than your
Jesus.
>
>>> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
>>> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
>>> for them.
>>>
>>> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
>>> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
>>> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
>
You're forgetting his 'This generation shall not pass, till all these
>>> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
>>> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
>>> for them.
>>>
>>> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
>>> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
>>> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
>
things be fulfilled.' promise. Why would anyone believe anything your
Jesus said after that spectacular failure?
>
> Yeah, the deaf could hear and the blind could see but he could never
> master the art of regrowing limbs. Didn't
> you ever wonder about that?????
>
Like his dad, he hated amputees. He couldn't even come up with
> Yeah, the deaf could hear and the blind could see but he could never
> master the art of regrowing limbs. Didn't
> you ever wonder about that?????
>
prosthetic limbs for them. There was not a single mention of amputees
in his famous 'blessed are' speech.
Andrew
Oct 17, 2012, 9:31:52 AM10/17/12
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"Ralph" wrote in message news:OsednYn9WYCnmuPN...@giganews.com...
You acknowledge that it's true.
> but he could never master the art of regrowing limbs.
> Didn't you ever wonder about that?????
"And behold, there was a man who had his hand withered.
Then He said to the man, "Stretch forth thine hand."
And he stretched it forth, and it was restored whole like
the other." Matthew 12
> but he could never master the art of regrowing limbs.
> Didn't you ever wonder about that?????
Then He said to the man, "Stretch forth thine hand."
And he stretched it forth, and it was restored whole like
the other." Matthew 12
R.Dean
Oct 18, 2012, 5:56:53 PM10/18/12
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Methodist shooting anyone for wanting an education.
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