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Dr. Jerry Newcombe






It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
same-sex marriage.

But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
embrace this position. This reminds me of what he said a few months ago,
on the issue of ObamaCare and the like: Jesus made him do it. I
addressed that issue in another recent column.

On May 9, 2012, President Obama told Robin Roberts of ABC News that his
position on gay relations has now evolved to the point that he thinks
"same-sex couples should be able to get married."

Speaking of himself and his wife, the president said: "We're both
practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to
put us at odds with the views of others; but, you know, when we think
about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only
Christ sacrificing Himself on our behalf, but it's also the Golden Rule,
you know? Treat others the way you'd want to be treated."

It's certainly true that the Lord sacrificed Himself for us. And it's
certainly true that Jesus was the first to articulate the Golden Rule.
"Do to others as you would have them do to you, for this sums up the law
and the prophets" (Matthew 7:12).

But there's a flaw in the Theologian-in-Chief's understanding. Citing
the Old Testament, Jesus said, "For this reason a man will leave his
father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one
flesh" (Mark 10:7-8). One man. One woman.

Today people sometimes say that Jesus never condemned homosexuality. But
He did when He condemned pornea (from which we get the word
pornography). In Matthew 15:19, Jesus condemned a host of sins, one of
which is pornea. This word is translated as "sexual immorality." It
would include all the sexual sins prohibited in the Old Testament, such
as pre-marital sex, adultery, homosexuality, incest, and bestiality.

But the Bible doesn't just stop there on the issue. It says that gays
can be freed from this lifestyle. Just like other sinners, which is good
news for all of us.

Many years ago, I was on a panel discussion on Fox News on the issue of
leaving the homosexual lifestyle. I was the only straight person in the
discussion -- out of about ten guests. Everyone else was either gay or
ex-gay. The gays were bent out of shape by the ex-gays, trying to make
the point that they had either never really been homosexual or that they
still were, but were simply suppressing their true identity, their
homosexuality.

The host made the point that the ex-gay movement was born in California
in the 1970s (with the birth of Exodus International, now headquartered
in Orlando) and that one of the founders had fallen back into the lifestyle.

I countered that contrary to the ex-gay movement being born in the
United States in the 1970s, it was born back in the first century. Paul
the Apostle wrote to the Christians in the Greek city of Corinth and
spoke against a host of sins, including homosexuality, but then he adds,
"And that is what some of you were, but you were washed ...."

In other words, they were changed. Change is possible. Thankfully, there
are thousands alive today who have been so changed. I've had the
privilege of interviewing several former homosexuals and lesbians.

One of them told me: "As a homosexual, when I laid my head down at
night, I had to think about all the shame I felt. I felt, even though I
said I was free and was very happy about being gay, there was still a
feeling of entrapment. I felt like I had committed myself to something
that I really was not sure that I could handle. And because of that, it
drew me into a fury of trying to prove myself. And I found that most of
my friends were the same way. You had to continuously prove yourself in
that lifestyle."

But he found freedom through God: "And I think about when Christ says
that who the Son shall set free is free indeed, you know. And when
Christ did set me free, I thought about, 'Wow. Here I am a Christian and
I can truly express myself, and I feel no shame, no guilt, no nothing.'
I would take the worst day as a Christian knowing Jesus Christ, rather
than the best day without Him."

The rights that activists claim they seek in gay marriage, such as
inheritance rights or hospital visitation rights, are rights they
already have -- and well they should. But marriage involves the law, so
this involves forced acceptance. Homosexual writer Andrew Sullivan said
more than a decade ago: "If nothing else were done at all, and gay
marriage were legalized, 90 percent of the political work necessary to
achieve gay and lesbian equality would have been achieved. It is
ultimately the only reform that matters."

There's a reason society has laws related to who can get married. As the
family goes, so goes society. Same-sex marriage is simply another nail
in the coffin of the American family, along with the spectacular failure
of so many heterosexual marriages that fail to follow God's commands to
the husband and wife as set forth in the Bible.

The president may continue to get feted by the liberal media and the
Hollywood left for embracing same-sex marriage. He may continue to rake
in millions into his re-election coffers. But with all due respect, I
think he seriously misrepresents the Savior when he claims that Jesus
would favor same-sex marriage.
















--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com


W.T.S.

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In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
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> http://www.OneLiesNow.com/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> Dr. Juicy Nookie
>
<snip> Usual lying bull shit from religious filth, why repost? </snip>
>
Summary: "Jesus" doesn't have a say, "Jesus" never existed. Same sex
marriage is a basic human right which can't be voted away.
>

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38

• R. L. Measures.

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May 19, 2012, 7:28:22 PM5/19/12
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In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:

>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
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>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
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>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>same-sex marriage.
>
>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>embrace this position. ... ... ...

• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
against gay people.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Mitchell Holman

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May 19, 2012, 8:04:52 PM5/19/12
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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:5l5rnv....@news.alt.net:

> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
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> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
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>
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> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
> same-sex marriage.
>
> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
> embrace this position. This reminds me of what he said a few months
> ago, on the issue of ObamaCare and the like: Jesus made him do it. I
> addressed that issue in another recent column.
>



Post for us what Jesus said about same sex marriage.




Joe Bruno

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May 19, 2012, 8:57:13 PM5/19/12
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On May 19, 7:04 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote innews:5l5rnv....@news.alt.net:
The Christians would love it, Jesus was gay himself
as far as I can see.

I mean come on, WINE on a boys night out!

"Hello booooys"

Runge 666

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So many talibans in the US...

"J" <jdyo...@ymail.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
5l5rnv....@news.alt.net...

duke

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Satanville.

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duke - American American

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duke

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May 20, 2012, 8:47:16 AM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478

>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe

>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>same-sex marriage.
>>
>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>
>• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>against gay people.

Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
God.

linuxgal

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May 19, 2012, 10:47:34 PM5/19/12
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duke wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (� R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>> In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>
>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>
>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>> same-sex marriage.
>>>
>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>> embrace this position. ... ... ...
>> � There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>> against gay people.
>
> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
> God.

What about the homosexuals who don't practice anymore because they're
really good at it?

duke

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May 20, 2012, 5:04:56 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:47:34 +0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>
>>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>
>>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>> same-sex marriage.
>>>>
>>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>> embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>> • There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>> against gay people.
>>
>> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
>> God.
>
>What about the homosexuals who don't practice anymore because they're
>really good at it?

They're writing an instruction book now to give to satan as a gift when they
arrive.

• R. L. Measures.

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May 20, 2012, 6:00:11 PM5/20/12
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In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>
>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>
>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>
>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>
>>• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>against gay people.
>
>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
>God.
>
• Reference?

Paul Duca

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May 20, 2012, 10:04:30 PM5/20/12
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On May 20, 5:04 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:47:34 +0800, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >duke wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org ( R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >>> In article <5l5rnv.d1c.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>
> >>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>
> >>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
> >>>> same-sex marriage.
>
> >>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
> >>>> embrace this position. ... ... ...
> >>>  There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
> >>> against gay people.
>
> >> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
> >> God.
>
> >What about the homosexuals who don't practice anymore because they're
> >really good at it?
>
> They're writing an instruction book now to give to satan as a gift when they
> arrive.
>
\

Better than pretending God will give them a gift if they arrive in
Catholic Heaven....

Paul

Paul Duca

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May 20, 2012, 10:06:41 PM5/20/12
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More accurately, does He REALLY give a rat's ass?

Paul

Paul Duca

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May 20, 2012, 10:05:27 PM5/20/12
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On May 20, 8:47 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >In article <5l5rnv.d1c.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
> >>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
> >>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
> >>same-sex marriage.
>
> >>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
> >>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>
> >•  There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
> >against gay people.
>
> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
> God.
>


You act like there's anything in that rundown shitbox WORTH
inheriting....


Paul

Juris Diction

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May 21, 2012, 12:18:31 AM5/21/12
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In article <b2nir7hl73394map1...@4ax.com>,
So you believe in SATAN??
Simple Adults Trained to Accept Negativity.

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* M. Romney Now Running GWBush v.2.0 >buggy, cult infected<

Republicans seem determined to take
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Bebo Chilton

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May 21, 2012, 3:26:30 AM5/21/12
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In article <iwas-678A25.2...@news.shawcable.net>
You misspelled OBAMA
On Boy Ass Muslims Agree

Simple facts about Obama,

Obama was raised by a transvestite faggot crossdresser.
Obama had a faggot australian boyfriend.
Obama belongs to a faggot bathhouse in Chicago.
Obama set precedent as an asslifter, bowing to every terrorist
leader after he took office.
Obama appointed Kevin Jennings, a notorious NAMBLA faggot as the
"Safe Schools Czar."
Obama hired a faggot to be the press secretary face of the
President of the USA to the world.
Joe Biden made Obama come out of the closet and take a position
on faggot marriage.
Obama bent over, just like he always does, taking it up the ass
and saying he supported faggot marriage.























Martin Phipps

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May 21, 2012, 5:49:34 AM5/21/12
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Next time you see Jesus Rodriguez trimming your hedge, ask him his
opinion on same sex marriage. If it is that important to you, I mean.

Martin

duke

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:18:31 -0700, Juris Diction <iw...@theditch.com> wrote:

>In article <b2nir7hl73394map1...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:47:34 +0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>> >duke wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>> >>
>> >>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>> >>
>> >>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>> >>>> same-sex marriage.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>> >>>> embrace this position. ... ... ...
>> >>> • There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>> >>> against gay people.
>> >>
>> >> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
>> >> kingdom of
>> >> God.
>> >
>> >What about the homosexuals who don't practice anymore because they're
>> >really good at it?
>>
>> They're writing an instruction book now to give to satan as a gift when they
>> arrive.

>So you believe in SATAN??
>Simple Adults Trained to Accept Negativity.

Oh, good grief.

duke

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May 21, 2012, 8:09:04 AM5/21/12
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not
be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
acts.

Alan Ferris

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May 21, 2012, 12:13:01 PM5/21/12
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So why is the church only active against homosexuals and not the
drunkards that fill its own ranks?

"I think, way back been I spent time (wasted, really) trying to get
some idiot from Louisiana (Earl Weber?) to leave y'all the hell
alone." - Rev. Dye
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=B844BF08.33A0A%25htduck.geo%40yahoo.com

Lamont Cranston

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May 21, 2012, 9:00:12 PM5/21/12
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duke wrote:

>> • There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>> against gay people.
>
>> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
> kingdom of
> God.

Au contraire, little fascist, he did not. You are simply a fucking liar.

• R. L. Measures.

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May 22, 2012, 8:00:27 AM5/22/12
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In article <j1ckr7tpc89rcv4bb...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>>In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>
>>>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>
>>>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>>>
>>>>• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>>>against gay people.
>>>
>>>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
kingdom of
>>>God.
>>>
>>• Reference?
>
>1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)

• This was a letter written by Saul of Tarsus, a man who never met said rabbi.
>
>9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not
>be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
>who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
>slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
>
>Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
>Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
>acts.
>
>
>duke - American American
>
>*****
>2012 - end of an error
>Vote Republican in 2012
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duke

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May 22, 2012, 8:35:06 AM5/22/12
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Au contraire.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not
be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
acts.

hypatiab7

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May 22, 2012, 9:25:23 AM5/22/12
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On Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:47:16 AM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>
> >>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>
> >>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
> >>same-sex marriage.
> >>
> >>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
> >>embrace this position. ... ... ...
> >
> >• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
> >against gay people.
>
> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
> God.
Where? Chapter and verse.

Juris Diction

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In article <W6LGTIUL4105...@reece.net.au>,
Ps....sst, Hate ain't going to win this time.

• R. L. Measures.

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In article <iwas-F2590A.0...@news.shawcable.net>, Juris Diction
• good point -- and anti-women's choice is likely to be a factor.

Paul Duca

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On May 21, 8:09 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de3hreh7q8f0rq9o...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >>>In article <5l5rnv.d1c.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>
> >>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>
> >>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
> >>>>same-sex marriage.
>
> >>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
> >>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>
> >>>•  There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
> >>>against gay people.
>
> >>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
> >>God.
>
> >•  Reference?
>
> 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
>
> 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not
> be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
> who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
> slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
>
> Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
> Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
> acts.
>

Why does Duke bother with the parts of Catholicism that don't put a
penny in his pocket?

Paul

duke

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On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:00:27 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

>In article <j1ckr7tpc89rcv4bb...@4ax.com>, duke
><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de...@4ax.com>, duke
>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>>
>>>>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>>
>>>>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>>>>
>>>>>• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>>>>against gay people.
>>>>
>>>>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
>kingdom of
>>>>God.
>>>>
>>>• Reference?
>>
>>1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
>
>• This was a letter written by Saul of Tarsus, a man who never met said rabbi.

But he did meet the risen Lord.

• R. L. Measures.

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In article <4uhpr716ch0kj2lmb...@4ax.com>, duke
• That is only what Saul/Paul claimed. Jesus predicted that one would
come and many would be misled.

>>>....
>Vote Republican in 2012

• Republicans are anti-women, anti-necessary taxes, and anti-regulation
of business,

"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive
notion that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana
Carpender

emoneyjoe

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On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:22:24 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

>In article <4uhpr716ch0kj2lmb...@4ax.com>, duke
><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:00:27 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <j1ckr7tpc89rcv4bb...@4ax.com>, duke
>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>>>>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>>>>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>? There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>>>>>>against gay people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
>>>kingdom of
>>>>>>God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>? Reference?
>>>>
>>>>1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
>>>
>>>? This was a letter written by Saul of Tarsus, a man who never met said
>rabbi.
>>
>>But he did meet the risen Lord.
>>
>? That is only what Saul/Paul claimed. Jesus predicted that one would
>come and many would be misled.
>
>>>>....
>>Vote Republican in 2012
>
>? Republicans are anti-women, anti-necessary taxes, and anti-regulation
>of business,
>
>"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive
>notion that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana
>Carpender

What can regulation to prevent people from
committing crimes any better than current law?

Maybe socialists would want an armed guard
watching everybody all the time.


Hey, who is the democrat running for president
named Will B. Uncommitted?






• R. L. Measures.

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In article <5u1qr7dmt9eagui5u...@4ax.com>,
�€ Regulation can keep bankers from gambling with derivitives using
depositors' money.

thomas p.

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"emoneyjoe" <emon...@iglou.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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Ah, so you support regulation. Good for you.


snip


--
thomas p

Ignorance is the mother of devotion.

David Hume


Bill Steele

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If this was so important, why isn't there a "Thou shalt not" or a
"Blessed are the straights." The bigots have to search carefully and
then "interpret" to find their "proof."

• R. L. Measures.

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In article <jpja29$a2g$1...@ruby.cit.cornell.edu>, Bill Steele
** ?

emoneyjoe

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On Wed, 23 May 2012 09:44:09 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>> What can regulation do to prevent people from
>>committing crimes any better than current law?
>
> Regulation can keep bankers from gambling with derivitives using
>depositors' money.

Regulation is just rules or laws, apparently the
problem was the rules or laws did not anticipate
the ingenuity of schemers, they thought they were
within the law and not breaking any rules.






emoneyjoe

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On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:08:19 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
There was regulation, it was not specific
enough.






Jeanne Douglas

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May 23, 2012, 4:03:41 PM5/23/12
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In article <jpja29$a2g$1...@ruby.cit.cornell.edu>,
Bill Steele <ws...@cornel.edu> wrote:

No to mention the hypocrisy of, on the one hand, stating that the OT
doesn't apply to Christians, and on the other, taking one passage from
the OT as gospel while ignoring all the other passages completely.

In other words--anyone who condemns homosexuality while at the same time
eating shrimp and lobster and crab is a moral hypocrite and a bigot.

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

tirebiter

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On May 21, 8:09 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de3hreh7q8f0rq9o...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
Have you ever "self abused" yourself? If so, according to the kjv
bible, you will suffer the same fate.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206&version=KJV
http://tinyurl.com/d2n5rlr

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• R. L. Measures.

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In article <ijfqr7hfsudcte7jq...@4ax.com>,
** things got considerably worse when the rules were relaxed.

emoneyjoe

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On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:01:06 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
The gossip in the newsgroup is that Bush
tried to keep them from being relaxed.

Barney is retiring, so maybe things will get
back to normal.







Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:06:41 -0700 (PDT)
Paul Duca <paul....@gmail.com> wrote:

> More accurately, does He REALLY give a rat's ass?

Very likely not -- people were starving back then and he probably would
have cooked it for a meal.

--
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
"Obviously Jesus was not divine, only an idiot would believe so."
-- Joe Bruno (May 18, 2012)

thomas p.

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"emoneyjoe" <emon...@iglou.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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So you want more regulation. Okay.

• R. L. Measures.

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In article <mlarr7hfbqjfa26ig...@4ax.com>,
*** I have heard nothing about such, I dout if "W" even knew what
derivatives and credit default swaps are - and that he probsbly thought
the London Whale was some kind of marine mammal that inhabited the Straits
of Dover.
>
> Barney is retiring, so maybe things will get
>back to normal.

*** chortle

emoneyjoe

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On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:35:35 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
Regulations alone won't do it, there has to be
honesty among the principles.

Even with after-the-fact oversight some tricks
will happen, how many auditors would be enough.


The whole investing game has been distorted,
even IPOs have changed from a small operation
with as good idea raising money to expand
changing to an investor get-rich-quick "opportunity"
and the CEO getting filthy rich.


Too much money where it doesn't do much.






duke

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The only books selected for inclusion in the NT bible are those that are 100% in
accordance with what Jesus taught.

>>Vote Republican in 2012

>• Republicans are anti-women, anti-necessary taxes, and anti-regulation
>of business,

Wow, so you're a 'rat now?

duke

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On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:43:03 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>Have you ever "self abused" yourself? If so, according to the kjv
>bible, you will suffer the same fate.

I love myself. What does the kjv know?

sbalneav

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In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:43:03 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On May 21, 8:09 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (? R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de3hreh7q8f0rq9o...@4ax.com>, duke
>>> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (? R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>In article <5l5rnv.d1c.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>
>>> >>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>
>>> >>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>> >>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>
>>> >>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>> >>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>>
>>> >>>?  There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>> >>>against gay people.
>>>
>>> >>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
>>> >>God.
>>>
>>> >?  Reference?
>>>
>>> 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
>>>
>>> 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not
>>> be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
>>> who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
>>> slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
>>>
>>> Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
>>> Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
>>> acts.
>
>>Have you ever "self abused" yourself? If so, according to the kjv
>>bible, you will suffer the same fate.
>
> I love myself. What does the kjv know?

Pretty much everything that's in the Douay-Rheims version.

tirebiter

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On May 24, 12:07 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:43:03 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
christians disavowing their own holy book. The very same sentence you
use to condemn gays, also damns you for masturbating.

Cafeteria style adherence. Too funny.

---
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• R. L. Measures.

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In article <k0nsr75oe89kt3tkr...@4ax.com>, duke
• That's what the Roman Church claims. I don't believe it.

>>>Vote Republican in 2012
>
>>• Republicans are anti-women, anti-necessary taxes, and anti-regulation
>>of business,
>
>Wow, so you're a 'rat now?
>
• I am a Republican -- but I am willing to pay taxes to help feed
misfortunate children of single moms and I do not think that it is ethical
to profit from other peoples' medical problems.

emoneyjoe

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On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:03:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
wrote:

>In article <k0nsr75oe89kt3tkr...@4ax.com>, duke
><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:22:24 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <4uhpr716ch0kj2lmb...@4ax.com>, duke
>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:00:27 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <j1ckr7tpc89rcv4bb...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L.
>Measures.) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>>>>>>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>>>>>>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>? There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either
>for or
>>>>>>>>>against gay people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
>>>>>kingdom of
>>>>>>>>God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>? Reference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
>>>>>
>>>>>? This was a letter written by Saul of Tarsus, a man who never met said
>>>rabbi.
>>>>
>>>>But he did meet the risen Lord.
>>>>
>>>? That is only what Saul/Paul claimed. Jesus predicted that one would
>>>come and many would be misled.
>>
>>The only books selected for inclusion in the NT bible are those that are
>100% in
>>accordance with what Jesus taught.
>>
>? That's what the Roman Church claims. I don't believe it.
>
>>>>Vote Republican in 2012
>>
>>>? Republicans are anti-women, anti-necessary taxes, and anti-regulation
>>>of business,
>>
>>Wow, so you're a 'rat now?
>>
>? I am a Republican -- but I am willing to pay taxes to help feed
>misfortunate children of single moms and I do not think that it is ethical
>to profit from other peoples' medical problems.

Why do you call them misfortunate?

Don't they look the same as other kid, aren't
they loved just as much as other kids?






• R. L. Measures.

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In article <g9itr71u0373lrmqu...@4ax.com>,
*** because they were fathered by someone who could not or would not provide.
>
> Don't they look the same as other kid, aren't
>they loved just as much as other kids?

duke

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Such is life. If you don't like it, blow it off.


>>>>Vote Republican in 2012
>>
>>>• Republicans are anti-women, anti-necessary taxes, and anti-regulation
>>>of business,
>>
>>Wow, so you're a 'rat now?

>• I am a Republican -- but I am willing to pay taxes to help feed
>misfortunate children of single moms and I do not think that it is ethical
>to profit from other peoples' medical problems.

Your last comment is troublesome. You reject a profit margin for billions being
spent to provide health care for others? We wouldn't have health care at all
then.

duke

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Mommy didn't care.

>> Don't they look the same as other kid, aren't
>>they loved just as much as other kids?

duke

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I know. All valid bibles say the same thing.

But the issue is (also) one of "self abuse". If I chewed gum in school, what is
my fate according to the kjv?

duke

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On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:56:33 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>christians disavowing their own holy book. The very same sentence you
>use to condemn gays, also damns you for masturbating.

I don't condemn gays. God condemns the practice of homosexual sex.

>Cafeteria style adherence. Too funny.

And yet you don't know what you're talking about anyway.

tirebiter

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On May 25, 8:01 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:56:33 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com>
This god only exists between your ears and happily agrees with you
about everything.

> >Cafeteria style adherence.  Too funny.
>
> And yet you don't know what you're talking about anyway.
>

This is duke's way of saying, "you're right, I'm wrong".

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Don Martin

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May 25, 2012, 9:27:18 AM5/25/12
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Not, apparently, by their fathers. And children whose mothers were blocked
from abolrting them are not loved all that much by their mums, either.
Looks aren't everything.


--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
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linuxgal

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May 25, 2012, 9:27:49 AM5/25/12
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duke wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>
>> Pretty much everything that's in the Douay-Rheims version.
>
> But the issue is (also) one of "self abuse". If I chewed gum in school, what is
> my fate according to the kjv?

A rap on the knuckles from Sister Mary Crotchrot.

emoneyjoe

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 06:57:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:56:29 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>>In article <g9itr71u0373lrmqu...@4ax.com>,
>>emon...@iglou.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:03:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
Better to be born than be aborted.

Maybe the liberals don't know what abortion
means, it means tearing a little baby apart with
hooks and knives before it can protect itself.

But maybe that is why they are atheists,
they couldn't look in the mirror otherwise.







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duke

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Nope, for the following reasons:
1. I went to public school.
2. There was no Sister Mary Crotchrot.

duke

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 06:15:23 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
No, but I do happily believe everything he said.

>> >Cafeteria style adherence.  Too funny.
>> And yet you don't know what you're talking about anyway.
>This is duke's way of saying, "you're right, I'm wrong".

No, I accept all he said. Cafeteria Christians only believe this but not that.

tirebiter

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On May 25, 11:57 am, emoneyjoe <emoney...@iglou.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 06:57:29 -0500, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:56:29 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >>In article <g9itr71u0373lrmqul5p58018pqnnqr...@4ax.com>,
> >>emoney...@iglou.com wrote:
>
> >>>On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:03:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>In article <k0nsr75oe89kt3tkrhj180scnpt0c8i...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>>><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:22:24 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>In article <4uhpr716ch0kj2lmbd20hr16vfu55ku...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>>>>><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:00:27 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>In article <j1ckr7tpc89rcv4bbu46mdtu5cbhdhm...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>>>>>>><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L. Measures.)
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de3hreh7q8f0rq9o...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>>>>>>>>><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (?R. L.
> >>>>Measures.) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>In article <5l5rnv.d1c.1...@news.alt.net>, J
Millions of christian (even catholic) women have had abortions. It's
about a woman's right to choose.

When you become pregnant, you'll have the same right to choose.

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Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 25, 2012, 3:49:06 PM5/25/12
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Jesus Christ now supports gay marriage. He didn't at one time, but He
changed His mind and decided to quit being mean to His creations. He is now
ashamed because He was a homophobe. He died on the cross to atone for sins
like this, and He is now pure. He told me this Himself.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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Did he use his magic flute? That's how it tells me about things.

linuxgal

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duke wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 06:27:49 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pretty much everything that's in the Douay-Rheims version.
>>> But the issue is (also) one of "self abuse". If I chewed gum in school, what is
>>> my fate according to the kjv?
>> A rap on the knuckles from Sister Mary Crotchrot.
>
> Nope, for the following reasons:
> 1. I went to public school.
> 2. There was no Sister Mary Crotchrot.
>

You Publics don't know how easy you had it. In my school the nuns were
so mean they used daggers.

Alan Ferris

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 07:01:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>christians disavowing their own holy book. The very same sentence you
>>use to condemn gays, also damns you for masturbating.
>
>I don't condemn gays. God condemns the practice of homosexual sex.

He also condems liars, so why do you lie? Why does your church
support bishops who lied?

"Nobody had money 2000 years ago."
"no one had a job, so no money."
"The only salaried person back then was Herod's concubine"
- duke (Earl J Weber)

Alan Ferris

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May 26, 2012, 4:24:11 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 11:39:07 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>> >Cafeteria style adherence.  Too funny.
>>> And yet you don't know what you're talking about anyway.
>>This is duke's way of saying, "you're right, I'm wrong".
>
>No, I accept all he said. Cafeteria Christians only believe this but not that.

But you lie and you know what your god condemned liars.

"I was talking about a loving family teasingly pinching
nipples (pre breast type) and comparing how that's quite
alright in a family setting but clearly and quickly labeled
as child molestation outside the family setting."
- duke (Earl J Weber)

"As I've stated before, the comment is from a ng discussion
addressing a double standard - what is considered "ok" in
the family setting quickly becomes molestation by an outsider.
You can see that in the comment itself." - duke (Earl J Weber)

duke

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May 26, 2012, 8:44:06 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 11:57:52 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 May 2012 06:57:29 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:56:29 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <g9itr71u0373lrmqu...@4ax.com>,
>>>emon...@iglou.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:03:32 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
> Better to be born than be aborted.

> Maybe the liberals don't know what abortion
>means, it means tearing a little baby apart with
>hooks and knives before it can protect itself.

They sure tend to think more like satan than God.

> But maybe that is why they are atheists,
>they couldn't look in the mirror otherwise.

duke

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May 26, 2012, 8:45:41 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 10:44:39 -0700 (PDT), tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
And when they did, they did not do so as Christians but minions of satan
instead. That appears to be the point so many of you miss.

>When you become pregnant, you'll have the same right to choose.

But not as a Christian, where murder is out of the question..

duke

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May 26, 2012, 8:48:21 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 11:18:21 -0800, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com> wrote:

>emoneyjoe wrote:
>
>> Maybe the liberals don't know what abortion
>> means, it means tearing a little baby apart with
>> hooks and knives before it can protect itself.
>
>The problem is, mysoginists don't understand what pregnancy is.

The problem is that pregnancy is murdering somebody not themselves for their own
comfort and convenience.

> They
>demand total freedom for themselves, but think nothing of demanding a
>woman give up the use of her body for several months, possibly her good
>health for the rest of her life, possibly her life itself, just so they
>can strut around, little cocks on a big dunghill, crowing about how they
>respect all life.

There is no strutting for us. It's either God smiling or satan smiling.

>You people do not care for life, because the lives of women are nothing
>to you. You care for yourself, for your own tremendous ego and your own
>need to feel as though you've stood up for the defenseless.

She who aborts for her comfort and convenience is assured of a place in the
fires of hell. I'm betting heavily on there being a hell.

duke

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May 26, 2012, 8:49:30 AM5/26/12
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Yet you never learned. Why?

duke

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May 26, 2012, 8:50:26 AM5/26/12
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Now that's about as unchristian a comment as I've ever seen.

Don Martin

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May 26, 2012, 9:56:02 AM5/26/12
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You thought that they were crucifixes, until the sister took the sheath off the
blade.

BroilJAB

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May 26, 2012, 9:21:46 AM5/26/12
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Blessed St Paul is implacable:
All homosexualists are DAMNED.

•R.Measures

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May 26, 2012, 9:48:10 AM5/26/12
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In article <VdKdnT6lVKti113S...@giganews.com>, linuxgal
• Maybe they would have calmed down if they got laid once a week?

linuxgal

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May 26, 2012, 10:00:48 AM5/26/12
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duke wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:13:23 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 06:27:49 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> duke wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty much everything that's in the Douay-Rheims version.
>>>>> But the issue is (also) one of "self abuse". If I chewed gum in school, what is
>>>>> my fate according to the kjv?
>>>> A rap on the knuckles from Sister Mary Crotchrot.
>>> Nope, for the following reasons:
>>> 1. I went to public school.
>>> 2. There was no Sister Mary Crotchrot.
>>>
>> You Publics don't know how easy you had it. In my school the nuns were
>> so mean they used daggers.
>
> Yet you never learned. Why?

If you use Google Groups to survey my posts here in the 2001 time frame,
using my real name (Teresita), you will find that I was pretty busy
doing Catholic apologetics on a.a. The intervening factor was the 2002
pedophile stuff.

Alan Ferris

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May 26, 2012, 2:26:47 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:45:41 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>When you become pregnant, you'll have the same right to choose.
>
>But not as a Christian, where murder is out of the question..

Abortion is legal and therefore cannot be murder.

"A woman's design function is to have babies." - duke (Earl Weber)

•R.Measures

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May 26, 2012, 4:34:48 PM5/26/12
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In article <8282s7lu80nl19u17...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
• True Duke. They are also equipped with wiles to seduce gainfully
employed sperm deliverers who hopefully can contribute to helping them
raise the product of their craft. For female rats their solution is to
have coitus with young males and then seek out more mature males for the
serious business of raising a brood.

Syd_maniac

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May 26, 2012, 5:49:18 PM5/26/12
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J wrote:

> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
> same-sex marriage.
>
> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
> embrace this position.

Sez who, ignorant bigot?
Jesus did say 'who is without sin, throw the first rock.' And you
republican fundimentalist are hardly without sing.

--
PDW


Check out my comic blogs:

http://theincognitomultiverse.blogspot.com/

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Syd_maniac

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May 26, 2012, 5:50:14 PM5/26/12
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duke wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>
>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>
>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>
>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>
>>• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>against gay people.
>
> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
> God.
>
>

Wrong as usual, ignorant loser.

Syd_maniac

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May 26, 2012, 5:51:25 PM5/26/12
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duke wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:47:34 +0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>>duke wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>
>>>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>
>>>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>>> same-sex marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>>> embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>>> • There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>>> against gay people.
>>>
>>> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
>>> God.
>>
>>What about the homosexuals who don't practice anymore because they're
>>really good at it?
>
> They're writing an instruction book now to give to satan as a gift when they
> arrive.
>
>

You mean, an istruction book for you to use when you arrive, lying bigot
Earl Webber?

Syd_maniac

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May 26, 2012, 5:52:58 PM5/26/12
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Bebo Chilton wrote:

> In article <iwas-678A25.2...@news.shawcable.net>
> Juris Diction <iw...@theditch.com> wrote:
>>
>> In article <b2nir7hl73394map1...@4ax.com>,
>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:47:34 +0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >duke wrote:
>> > >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>> > >>
>> > >>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>> > >>
>> > >>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>> > >>>> same-sex marriage.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>> > >>>> embrace this position. ... ... ...
>> > >>> • There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>> > >>> against gay people.
>> > >>
>> > >> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
>> > >> kingdom of
>> > >> God.
>> > >
>> > >What about the homosexuals who don't practice anymore because they're
>> > >really good at it?
>> >
>> > They're writing an instruction book now to give to satan as a gift when they
>> > arrive.
>> >
>> > duke - American American
>> >
>> > *****
>> > 2012 - end of an error
>> > Vote Republican in 2012
>> > *****
>>
>>
>> So you believe in SATAN??
>> Simple Adults Trained to Accept Negativity.
>
> You misspelled OBAMA
> On Boy Ass Muslims Agree
>

Oh, look. Another right-wing liar.

> Simple facts about Obama,
>
>

You mispelled 'simple right-wing propaganda and lies', bigot.

Syd_maniac

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May 26, 2012, 5:53:53 PM5/26/12
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duke wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:18:31 -0700, Juris Diction <iw...@theditch.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <b2nir7hl73394map1...@4ax.com>,
>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:47:34 +0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >duke wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.)
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>> >>
>>> >>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>> >>
>>> >>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>> >>>> same-sex marriage.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>> >>>> embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>> >>> • There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>> >>> against gay people.
>>> >>
>>> >> Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the
>>> >> kingdom of
>>> >> God.
>>> >
>>> >What about the homosexuals who don't practice anymore because they're
>>> >really good at it?
>>>
>>> They're writing an instruction book now to give to satan as a gift when they
>>> arrive.
>
>>So you believe in SATAN??
>>Simple Adults Trained to Accept Negativity.
>
> Oh, good grief.
>

Yeah, the bullshit you believe is cringeworthy, Dork.

Syd_maniac

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May 26, 2012, 5:55:12 PM5/26/12
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duke wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:00:11 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>
>>In article <5sphr79ilgdltu3de...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 16:28:22 -0700, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <5l5rnv....@news.alt.net>, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>
>>>>>Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>
>>>>>It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>>>>same-sex marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>>But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>>>>embrace this position. ... ... ...
>>>>
>>>>• There is nothing in the N.T. to suggest that Jesus spoke either for or
>>>>against gay people.
>>>
>>>Au contraire - he said that those that practice will not inherit the kingdom of
>>>God.
>>>
>>• Reference?
>
> 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
>
> 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not
> be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men
> who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
> slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
>
> Footnotes:a.1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two
> Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual
> acts.
>
>
>

No.
We do not trust you to translate an ancient language, Dork. Or to
translate simple English to English either.

Syd_maniac

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May 26, 2012, 5:56:20 PM5/26/12
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duke wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:04:52 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:5l5rnv....@news.alt.net:
>>
>>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1600478
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Jerry Newcombe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was one thing for President Obama to call for the legalization of
>>> same-sex marriage.
>>>
>>> But it was quite another to say that it's Jesus who causes him to
>>> embrace this position. This reminds me of what he said a few months
>>> ago, on the issue of ObamaCare and the like: Jesus made him do it. I
>>> addressed that issue in another recent column.
>
>> Post for us what Jesus said about same sex marriage.
>
> Satanville.
>

So, you can't.
Big surprise.
Not.

duke

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May 27, 2012, 10:32:18 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:00:48 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:13:23 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 06:27:49 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> duke wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty much everything that's in the Douay-Rheims version.
>>>>>> But the issue is (also) one of "self abuse". If I chewed gum in school, what is
>>>>>> my fate according to the kjv?
>>>>> A rap on the knuckles from Sister Mary Crotchrot.
>>>> Nope, for the following reasons:
>>>> 1. I went to public school.
>>>> 2. There was no Sister Mary Crotchrot.
>>>>
>>> You Publics don't know how easy you had it. In my school the nuns were
>>> so mean they used daggers.
>>
>> Yet you never learned. Why?
>
>If you use Google Groups to survey my posts here in the 2001 time frame,

Give me a break, please.

> using my real name (Teresita), you will find that I was pretty busy
>doing Catholic apologetics on a.a. The intervening factor was the 2002
>pedophile stuff.

I think I recall that name.

Yet you change because of a few bad men who are priests, and a couple of nuns,
and not because of a bad Faith. Now that doesn't make sense. If you recall,
Heb 4:15 well states that we are all sinners, 100% of us, except for Jesus
Christ. And if you look at the timing of the huge majority of the pedo issue,
it comes from priests in formation in the 1950-1970 time frame. That was
exactly the time when the Peace Corp was taking quality young men.

Further, touching is awful, purpose or accident, but is not anal penetration or
attempted. That's the reason why law suits far outnumber trials as in anal
rape. It's also a matter of a young preteen boys accusing an adult. And then
there are no witnesses. And yes, there are solid cases of truly false
accusations and to include money scammers.

Now I'm not in any way justifying the problem, but much has taken place since
then. The new cases dropped sharply in the early 1980's even though the scandal
hit in the early 2000's. New revelations are essentially old cases coming to
light.

Further, the Pope has established firm guidelines now.
1. Immediate removal from service upon notification.
2. Local DA is immediately advised by the Church.
3. A panel of well respected Catholics is quickly established for evaluation.
4. The panel interviews abuser suspect and abused to determine viability.
5. And onward as necessary.

Further, the Seminaries are under strict orders to limit applicants to quality
over quantity - which I personally heard from my Bishop. Gays will be
restricted although I can't state to what limits.

It's not like the Church hasn't take rock-solid steps to correct the situation.
Maybe a little slow in starting, but firm action none the less. More men are
now turning to the priesthood, although now more of college graduates rather
than 9th graders as before.
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