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David Fritzinger
Apr 14, 2012, 7:18:55 AM4/14/12
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In article <Jason-13041...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-8DA95E...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> > You still are trying to change the subject. Will you get back on the
> > subject and discuss the post I made! Again, it is the Republicans who
> > are destroying our economy. They refuse to raise taxes on anyone, insist
> > on cutting taxes on the rich (which the GW Bush administration showed
> > clearly does nothing to help the economy or lower the deficit), and they
> > want to try to balance the budget by destroying the social safety net
> > for the poor and middle class. I've already supported this statement
> > above. Now, why don't you discuss that? Or, are you afraid to because
> > you know I'm right?
Never really addressed this, did you? I wonder why?
>
> Doubling the taxes on rich people and middle class people would not solve
> our economic problems. In fact, it would hurt our economy since it would
> mean there would be far less money in circulation.
That is pure an utter BS. Clinton raised taxes on the rich, and we had
the best administration, in regards to job creation, in many years.
Bush2 cut taxes, mainly on the rich, but also on the middle class. The
result? Even during the expansion, hardly any jobs were created, while
the Bush recession wiped out all the jobs created during the Bush
administration, and then some. That seems to refute your idiocy above.
>
> Rich people are experts at paying as little tax money as they can get away
> with. For example, they have their tax attorneys keep billions of their
> dollars in off shore banks.
One of the main ways they do that is to get most of their income as
capital gains. The solution? Tax capital gains as real income, which it
is. This income should also be taxed for Medicare and Social Security.
Then, there would be no possibility of either going bankrupt.
See how simple this is, when you don't listen to idiots?
>
> I read a story last year about rich actors and actresses being able to
> legally invest in farms in the mid-west and when the farms go out of
> business (as planned) they can claim as losses all of the money they had
> invested in those farms. I don't know exactly how it works. You have to be
> rich to get in on it. I am not rich so am not involved. They saved
> millions of dollars on their taxes. They don't actually lose any money on
> those investments. It's a complicated tax scam.
If they invested their money, they lost money when the ventures went
bankrupt. Besides, the above is just another example of you trying to
change the subject.
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-8DA95E...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> > You still are trying to change the subject. Will you get back on the
> > subject and discuss the post I made! Again, it is the Republicans who
> > are destroying our economy. They refuse to raise taxes on anyone, insist
> > on cutting taxes on the rich (which the GW Bush administration showed
> > clearly does nothing to help the economy or lower the deficit), and they
> > want to try to balance the budget by destroying the social safety net
> > for the poor and middle class. I've already supported this statement
> > above. Now, why don't you discuss that? Or, are you afraid to because
> > you know I'm right?
Never really addressed this, did you? I wonder why?
>
> Doubling the taxes on rich people and middle class people would not solve
> our economic problems. In fact, it would hurt our economy since it would
> mean there would be far less money in circulation.
That is pure an utter BS. Clinton raised taxes on the rich, and we had
the best administration, in regards to job creation, in many years.
Bush2 cut taxes, mainly on the rich, but also on the middle class. The
result? Even during the expansion, hardly any jobs were created, while
the Bush recession wiped out all the jobs created during the Bush
administration, and then some. That seems to refute your idiocy above.
>
> Rich people are experts at paying as little tax money as they can get away
> with. For example, they have their tax attorneys keep billions of their
> dollars in off shore banks.
One of the main ways they do that is to get most of their income as
capital gains. The solution? Tax capital gains as real income, which it
is. This income should also be taxed for Medicare and Social Security.
Then, there would be no possibility of either going bankrupt.
See how simple this is, when you don't listen to idiots?
>
> I read a story last year about rich actors and actresses being able to
> legally invest in farms in the mid-west and when the farms go out of
> business (as planned) they can claim as losses all of the money they had
> invested in those farms. I don't know exactly how it works. You have to be
> rich to get in on it. I am not rich so am not involved. They saved
> millions of dollars on their taxes. They don't actually lose any money on
> those investments. It's a complicated tax scam.
If they invested their money, they lost money when the ventures went
bankrupt. Besides, the above is just another example of you trying to
change the subject.
Jason
Apr 15, 2012, 3:31:26 AM4/15/12
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In article <dfritzin-CB0674...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Lots of rich people like actors and actresses want other rich people to
pay their taxes but don't like to pay much of their money in taxes. That
is the reason they hire tax attorneys to find scams like the one mentioned
above to avoid having to pay very much money on their taxes.
pay their taxes but don't like to pay much of their money in taxes. That
is the reason they hire tax attorneys to find scams like the one mentioned
above to avoid having to pay very much money on their taxes.
David Fritzinger
Apr 15, 2012, 7:06:31 AM4/15/12
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In article <Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Gee, you are changing the subject, yet again. Why can't you stay on
topic? Is it a mental problem, or a moral one, where you try to change
the subject when proven wrong?
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-CB0674...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <Jason-13041...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dfritzin-8DA95E...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > You still are trying to change the subject. Will you get back on the
> > > > subject and discuss the post I made! Again, it is the Republicans who
> > > > are destroying our economy. They refuse to raise taxes on anyone,
> > > > insi
> In article <dfritzin-CB0674...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <Jason-13041...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dfritzin-8DA95E...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > You still are trying to change the subject. Will you get back on the
> > > > subject and discuss the post I made! Again, it is the Republicans who
> > > > are destroying our economy. They refuse to raise taxes on anyone,
> > > > insi
topic? Is it a mental problem, or a moral one, where you try to change
the subject when proven wrong?
Mitchell Holman
Apr 15, 2012, 9:02:58 AM4/15/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Don't forget other rich people like Romney who
dodge taxes by keeping their money in secret Swiss
bank accounts.
Is that "What Jesus Would Do"?
news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
dodge taxes by keeping their money in secret Swiss
bank accounts.
Is that "What Jesus Would Do"?
Alex W.
Apr 15, 2012, 9:33:53 AM4/15/12
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:02:58 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> Lots of rich people like actors and actresses want other rich people
>> to pay their taxes but don't like to pay much of their money in taxes.
>> That is the reason they hire tax attorneys to find scams like the one
>> mentioned above to avoid having to pay very much money on their taxes.
>
>
> Don't forget other rich people like Romney who
> dodge taxes by keeping their money in secret Swiss
> bank accounts.
>
> Is that "What Jesus Would Do"?
Goodness, no -- far too complicated.
>> to pay their taxes but don't like to pay much of their money in taxes.
>> That is the reason they hire tax attorneys to find scams like the one
>> mentioned above to avoid having to pay very much money on their taxes.
>
>
> Don't forget other rich people like Romney who
> dodge taxes by keeping their money in secret Swiss
> bank accounts.
>
> Is that "What Jesus Would Do"?
Jesus would claim tax-exempt status as a religious organisation.
Jason
Apr 15, 2012, 5:15:29 PM4/15/12
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In article <dfritzin-E43B66...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Read the posts that are above my post. The subject in most or all of those
posts is taxes.
posts is taxes.
Jason
Apr 15, 2012, 5:19:26 PM4/15/12
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In article <XnsA03650F8EC7C9...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Jesus did not have huge amounts of money like Romney and Obama. Did you
read the article about Obama's taxes? He paid a lower percent of taxes
than most middle class people. He wants rich people to pay huge amounts of
money in taxes. He is rich and found a way to pay a very low amount of
money in taxes. He is a typical rich person.
read the article about Obama's taxes? He paid a lower percent of taxes
than most middle class people. He wants rich people to pay huge amounts of
money in taxes. He is rich and found a way to pay a very low amount of
money in taxes. He is a typical rich person.
Jason
Apr 15, 2012, 5:22:30 PM4/15/12
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A scripture says that they were all in one Accord.
David Fritzinger
Apr 15, 2012, 6:21:14 PM4/15/12
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In article
<Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
FWIW, he is far less rich than Romney, yet paid a far higher percentage
of his income in taxes (Nearly 50% more). The thing is, Obama is trying
to make it so that people like him will pay their fair share in taxes,
while Republicans believe only the peasants pay taxes. Tell me, do you
think it is right for you to be supporting people like Romney and the
Koch brothers? That is what the Republicans want.
<Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
of his income in taxes (Nearly 50% more). The thing is, Obama is trying
to make it so that people like him will pay their fair share in taxes,
while Republicans believe only the peasants pay taxes. Tell me, do you
think it is right for you to be supporting people like Romney and the
Koch brothers? That is what the Republicans want.
David Fritzinger
Apr 15, 2012, 6:22:41 PM4/15/12
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In article
<Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
You changed the topic from people arranging to declare bankruptcy, and
were shown to be wrong. So, yes, you are changing the subject.
<Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
were shown to be wrong. So, yes, you are changing the subject.
Mitchell Holman
Apr 15, 2012, 8:03:53 PM4/15/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Jason
Apr 15, 2012, 9:10:47 PM4/15/12
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In article <XnsA036C0FE4C23...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
Jason
Apr 15, 2012, 9:11:42 PM4/15/12
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Tom McDonald
Apr 15, 2012, 9:32:09 PM4/15/12
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Mitchell Holman
Apr 15, 2012, 10:48:21 PM4/15/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-1504121810480001@67-150-121-
51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Obama released his.
What is Romney hiding?
51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
What is Romney hiding?
Jason
Apr 16, 2012, 2:48:34 AM4/16/12
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In article <XnsA036DCE0BA487...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
He was to busy to release his tax reports since he was making a plane trip
to an off shore bank to hide his money from the IRS.
to an off shore bank to hide his money from the IRS.
David Fritzinger
Apr 16, 2012, 7:05:51 AM4/16/12
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In article
<Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
I realize you are trying to be sarcastic, but I think that you may
actually believe that, in some way, shape or form. You really do believe
the rich are better. As Leona Helmsley once said "We don't pay taxes.
Only the little people pay taxes."
Read more at
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/leona_helmsley.html#5lTWDs4KF
VomjtHj.99
<Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
actually believe that, in some way, shape or form. You really do believe
the rich are better. As Leona Helmsley once said "We don't pay taxes.
Only the little people pay taxes."
Read more at
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/leona_helmsley.html#5lTWDs4KF
VomjtHj.99
Mitchell Holman
Apr 16, 2012, 8:51:17 AM4/16/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Romney has a small army of tax lawyers and CPA's
to manage his holdings. Why is he hiding his returns?
news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
to manage his holdings. Why is he hiding his returns?
Tom McDonald
Apr 16, 2012, 12:16:26 PM4/16/12
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On 4/16/2012 7:51 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
>> In article<XnsA036DCE0BA487...@216.196.121.131>,
>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>>> news:Jason-1504121810480001@67-150-121- 51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>>
>>>> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23...@216.196.121.131>,
>>>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
<snip>
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
>> In article<XnsA036DCE0BA487...@216.196.121.131>,
>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>>> news:Jason-1504121810480001@67-150-121- 51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>>
>>>> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23...@216.196.121.131>,
>>>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
>>>>
>>>> He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
>>>
>>>
>>> Obama released his.
>>>
>>> What is Romney hiding?
>>
>> He was to busy to release his tax reports since he was making a plane
>> trip to an off shore bank to hide his money from the IRS.
>
>
> Romney has a small army of tax lawyers and CPA's
> to manage his holdings. Why is he hiding his returns?
>
time to file his TY 2011 return. The report said he promised to release
the returns sometime in the next six months, and for sure before the
election.
But this is a "Romney promise", so we really don't know if it's true.
Any of it.
I've seen cephalopods with more spine than Romney.
Jason
Apr 16, 2012, 1:32:43 PM4/16/12
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In article <XnsA0374EF6756DF...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
My guess is to make sure those returns don't have any errors that would
quickly be found out--if he released the returns before being checked by
teams of CPA's.
warning: subject change
Fox news just reported that those people that have given Obama huge
amounts of money are getting special access to the White House and special
visits to Obama's office.
It means that Obama is a typical politician that is not that different
from Bush2 and Bush1 and Clinton.
Those people that believe Obama is a step above Bush2--are 100% incorrect.
Obama is just another typical politician.
Of course, conservative republicans have known that for the past 3 or more
years.
quickly be found out--if he released the returns before being checked by
teams of CPA's.
warning: subject change
Fox news just reported that those people that have given Obama huge
amounts of money are getting special access to the White House and special
visits to Obama's office.
It means that Obama is a typical politician that is not that different
from Bush2 and Bush1 and Clinton.
Those people that believe Obama is a step above Bush2--are 100% incorrect.
Obama is just another typical politician.
Of course, conservative republicans have known that for the past 3 or more
years.
Mitchell Holman
Apr 16, 2012, 5:13:48 PM4/16/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Is that supposed to be news?
>
> Those people that believe Obama is a step above Bush2--are 100%
> incorrect. Obama is just another typical politician.
>
So Obama is NOT a "radical socialist muslim".
Contrary to what Rush and Fox News are telling you....
news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> Those people that believe Obama is a step above Bush2--are 100%
> incorrect. Obama is just another typical politician.
>
Contrary to what Rush and Fox News are telling you....
Jim Burns
Apr 16, 2012, 8:05:57 PM4/16/12
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> news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
than to speak and remove all doubt.
I think Romney sees a similar principle in play here:
Better to stay silent and be thought to pay a grotesquely
unfair tax rate than to speak and remove all doubt.
There is no significant doubt, of course: Romney paid about the
same rate as he paid last year, less than people who don't
earn enough to keep all of his cars in gasoline. If his
circumstances had changed, it would have been major news.
"I'm running for office, for Pete's sake."
What I don't understand is why he is waiting until closer
to the general election. Is he planning to stiff us on this
year's tax returns? Does he really think he can win if he does that?
Pure speculation: What if Romney wants to wait and see if he
has a reasonable chance of beating Obama, closer to the general
election, before he performs such a public (financial) strip tease.
>> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23...@216.196.121.131>,
>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>>> news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>>> news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>>>> He is rich and found a way to pay a very
>>>> low amount of money in taxes. He is a typical rich person.
>>>
>>> How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
>>
>> He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
>
> Obama released his.
> What is Romney hiding?
There is a saying: Better to stay silent and be thought a fool
>>>> low amount of money in taxes. He is a typical rich person.
>>>
>>> How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
>>
>> He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
>
> Obama released his.
> What is Romney hiding?
than to speak and remove all doubt.
I think Romney sees a similar principle in play here:
Better to stay silent and be thought to pay a grotesquely
unfair tax rate than to speak and remove all doubt.
There is no significant doubt, of course: Romney paid about the
same rate as he paid last year, less than people who don't
earn enough to keep all of his cars in gasoline. If his
circumstances had changed, it would have been major news.
"I'm running for office, for Pete's sake."
What I don't understand is why he is waiting until closer
to the general election. Is he planning to stiff us on this
year's tax returns? Does he really think he can win if he does that?
Pure speculation: What if Romney wants to wait and see if he
has a reasonable chance of beating Obama, closer to the general
election, before he performs such a public (financial) strip tease.
Jason
Apr 16, 2012, 8:15:41 PM4/16/12
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In article <XnsA037A4292994...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
No--he is not a radical socialist muslim. He seems to have no respect for
the leaders of Israel but has been filmed bowing down to kings that are
Muslims.
the leaders of Israel but has been filmed bowing down to kings that are
Muslims.
Jason
Apr 16, 2012, 9:33:45 PM4/16/12
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requested a 6 month extention.
Mitchell Holman
Apr 16, 2012, 10:44:34 PM4/16/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-13041...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.
And Bush BRAGGED about his "close relationship" with
muslims and even benefitted from loans from the Bin Laden
family. Can you imagine the rightwing shitstorm if Obama
had financial ties to the Bin Ladens?
Bush ties to bin Laden haunt grim anniversary
09/12/2006
In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden,
founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas.Several
bin Laden family members invested millions in The Carlyle
Group, a private global equity firm based in Washington, DC.
The company's senior advisor was Bush's father, former President
George H.W. Bush. After news of the bin Laden-Bush connection
became public, the elder Bush stepped down from Carlyle.
Interestingly, on Sept. 11, 2001, members of the Carlyle Group -
including Bush senior, and his former secretary of state, James
Baker - were meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington,
D.C., along with Shafiq bin Laden, another one of Osama bin
Laden's brothers.While all flights were halted following the
terrorist attacks, there was one exception made: The White
House authorized planes to pick up 140 Saudi nationals,
including 24 members of the bin Laden family, living in
various cities in the U.S. to bring them back to Saudi Arabia,
where they would be safe. They were never interrogated. Five
years later, and we're still asking questions. We may have
lost our innocence but we're also losing, thankfully, our
ignorance.
http://www.denverpost.com/rodriguez/ci_4319898
news:Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> >> >> >> >> > rg> ,
>> >> >> David
>> >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> In article
>> >> >> David
>> >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-13041...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.
muslims and even benefitted from loans from the Bin Laden
family. Can you imagine the rightwing shitstorm if Obama
had financial ties to the Bin Ladens?
Bush ties to bin Laden haunt grim anniversary
09/12/2006
In 1978, Bush and Osama bin Laden's brother, Salem bin Laden,
founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas.Several
bin Laden family members invested millions in The Carlyle
Group, a private global equity firm based in Washington, DC.
The company's senior advisor was Bush's father, former President
George H.W. Bush. After news of the bin Laden-Bush connection
became public, the elder Bush stepped down from Carlyle.
Interestingly, on Sept. 11, 2001, members of the Carlyle Group -
including Bush senior, and his former secretary of state, James
Baker - were meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington,
D.C., along with Shafiq bin Laden, another one of Osama bin
Laden's brothers.While all flights were halted following the
terrorist attacks, there was one exception made: The White
House authorized planes to pick up 140 Saudi nationals,
including 24 members of the bin Laden family, living in
various cities in the U.S. to bring them back to Saudi Arabia,
where they would be safe. They were never interrogated. Five
years later, and we're still asking questions. We may have
lost our innocence but we're also losing, thankfully, our
ignorance.
http://www.denverpost.com/rodriguez/ci_4319898
Mitchell Holman
Apr 16, 2012, 10:46:15 PM4/16/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-1604121833450001@66-53-212-
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As could Obama.
Instead he revealed his financed to the public.
Romney is stalling.
Which one will you be voting for?
147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Instead he revealed his financed to the public.
Romney is stalling.
Which one will you be voting for?
Jason
Apr 16, 2012, 11:09:01 PM4/16/12
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In article <XnsA037DC3D0835A...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Bush2 is no longer president so the above story means nothing.
What about Obama's close friendship with a former terrorist named Bill
Ayers. His friends in the liberal news media will not investigate that
relationship.
What about Obama's close friendship with a former terrorist named Bill
Ayers. His friends in the liberal news media will not investigate that
relationship.
Jason
Apr 16, 2012, 11:09:49 PM4/16/12
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Mitchell Holman
Apr 17, 2012, 8:19:28 AM4/17/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-16041...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-13041...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwe
Modern Conservative: Someone who spent 8 years blaming
every problem on the previous president and who now runs
away from any mention of the previous president.
>
> What about Obama's close friendship with a former terrorist named Bill
> Ayers. His friends in the liberal news media will not investigate that
> relationship.
What is there to investigate, and why isn't Fox News doing it?
news:Jason-16041...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > r.o rg> ,
>> >> >> >> David
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article
>> >> >> >> David
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-13041...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwe
every problem on the previous president and who now runs
away from any mention of the previous president.
>
> What about Obama's close friendship with a former terrorist named Bill
> Ayers. His friends in the liberal news media will not investigate that
> relationship.
David Fritzinger
Apr 17, 2012, 9:26:15 AM4/17/12
to
In article <Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Stop lying, Jason. Bush also bowed down to Muslim leaders, and was even
seen holding the hand of one. Obama has supported Israel all along, and
the things Romney said were shown to be lies. That Obama doesn't let
Israel set our foreign policy is a *good* thing, not a bad one, since
our foreign policy should be to do what is best for the US first, and
the rest of the world second.
I do believe you have lied in almost every response you have given
today. What a record! Certainly not one to be proud of.
seen holding the hand of one. Obama has supported Israel all along, and
the things Romney said were shown to be lies. That Obama doesn't let
Israel set our foreign policy is a *good* thing, not a bad one, since
our foreign policy should be to do what is best for the US first, and
the rest of the world second.
I do believe you have lied in almost every response you have given
today. What a record! Certainly not one to be proud of.
David Fritzinger
Apr 17, 2012, 9:30:21 AM4/17/12
to
Alex W.
Apr 17, 2012, 9:53:03 AM4/17/12
to
They are ALL liars.
David Fritzinger
Apr 17, 2012, 9:56:38 AM4/17/12
to
In article <sxcnub8hsq62.1a...@40tude.net>,
If you saw another of my responses, it would be clear that Romney takes
lying to a whole new plateau.
lying to a whole new plateau.
Jason
Apr 17, 2012, 6:08:01 PM4/17/12
to
In article <XnsA0384991D6E75...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
They have mentioned the connection which is how I found out about it.
And democrats blame Bush2 for all of the trillions that Obama has added to
the national debt.
And democrats blame Bush2 for all of the trillions that Obama has added to
the national debt.
Jason
Apr 17, 2012, 6:09:55 PM4/17/12
to
In article <dfritzin-FEEF30...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I would vote for whatever republican that was running against Obama--even
it had been Gingrich and I never have liked him.
it had been Gingrich and I never have liked him.
Jason
Apr 17, 2012, 6:11:24 PM4/17/12
to
In article <dfritzin-58EA6F...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is trying
to force Israel to give up even more territory.
to force Israel to give up even more territory.
Tom McDonald
Apr 17, 2012, 6:08:56 PM4/17/12
to
On 4/17/2012 5:11 PM, Jason wrote:
> In article<dfritzin-58EA6F...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger<dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article<Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
<snip>
> In article<dfritzin-58EA6F...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger<dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article<Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>> No--he is not a radical socialist muslim. He seems to have no respect for
>>> the leaders of Israel but has been filmed bowing down to kings that are
>>> Muslims.
>>
>> Stop lying, Jason. Bush also bowed down to Muslim leaders, and was even
>> seen holding the hand of one. Obama has supported Israel all along, and
>> the things Romney said were shown to be lies. That Obama doesn't let
>> Israel set our foreign policy is a *good* thing, not a bad one, since
>> our foreign policy should be to do what is best for the US first, and
>> the rest of the world second.
>>
>> I do believe you have lied in almost every response you have given
>> today. What a record! Certainly not one to be proud of.
>
> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is trying
> to force Israel to give up even more territory.
>
last 40 years, Democratic and Republican presidents alike.
It's also been Israel's policy, even with extremely conservative
governments.
Does your knowledge know no beginning?
Tom McDonald
Apr 17, 2012, 6:13:39 PM4/17/12
to
On 4/17/2012 5:08 PM, Jason wrote:
<snip>
> And democrats blame Bush2 for all of the trillions that Obama has added to
> the national debt.
>
And well they should. Dubya was handed a budget surplus, and a deficit
on the way to being paid off. He squandered the surplus, gave us
unfunded tax breaks for the rich, two off-the-books wars, and a Medicare
drug plan that wasn't paid for.
Did Dubya hand Obama a budget surplus, and a deficit on the way to being
paid off?
Yes or no.
<snip>
> And democrats blame Bush2 for all of the trillions that Obama has added to
> the national debt.
>
on the way to being paid off. He squandered the surplus, gave us
unfunded tax breaks for the rich, two off-the-books wars, and a Medicare
drug plan that wasn't paid for.
Did Dubya hand Obama a budget surplus, and a deficit on the way to being
paid off?
Yes or no.
Jason
Apr 17, 2012, 6:24:24 PM4/17/12
to
In article <YRljr.2606$ay5....@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
They are running out of land.
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 17, 2012, 6:49:44 PM4/17/12
to
On Apr 17, 3:08 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA0384991D6E75nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > r.o rg> ,
> > >> >> >> >> David
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-1304122333260...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwe
And there you go, lying again.
We ONLY blame Bush2 for the trillions of debt caused by his policies.
Which just happen to be the cause of most of the debt.
JD
> In article <XnsA0384991D6E75nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-16041...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > In article <XnsA037DC3D0835Anomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-16041...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> > In article <XnsA037A4292994nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> >> > In article <XnsA0374EF6756DFnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> > <XnsA036DCE0BA487nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >> >>news:Jason-1504121810480001@67-150-121-
> > >> >> >> >> 51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> > <XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >> >>news:Jason-1504121810480001@67-150-121-
> > >> >> >> >> 51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwes
> > >> >> >> >> >> t.c om:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> > <XnsA03650F8EC7C9nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwes
> > >> >> >> >> >> t.c om:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacw
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> est .co m:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > <dfritzin-CB0674.07185514042...@news.eternal-septembe
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacw
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> est .co m:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > r.o rg> ,
> > >> >> >> >> David
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-1304122333260...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwe
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> st. com
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >,
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <dfritzin-8DA95E.18512713042...@news.eternal-septe
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >,
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > mbe r.o rg> , David Fritzinger
We ONLY blame Bush2 for the trillions of debt caused by his policies.
Which just happen to be the cause of most of the debt.
JD
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 17, 2012, 6:52:29 PM4/17/12
to
On Apr 17, 3:11 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-58EA6F.09261517042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <Jason-1604121715410...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <XnsA037A4292994nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
> > > > >> >> > In article <XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > rg> , David Fritzinger
You mean the territory that they STOLE?
Are you in favor of ALL thieves keeping their ill-gotten gains?
JD
> In article <dfritzin-58EA6F.09261517042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <Jason-1604121715410...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <XnsA037A4292994nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > > In article <XnsA0374EF6756DFnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > >> > In article <XnsA036DCE0BA487nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> >>news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>
> > > > >> >> > In article <XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > >> >> >> > In article
> > > > >> >> >> > <XnsA03650F8EC7C9nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > > >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > >> >> >> > In article
> > > > >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.co
> > > > >> >> >> >> m:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > > >> >> >> >> > <dfritzin-CB0674.07185514042...@news.eternal-september.org>
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.co
> > > > >> >> >> >> m:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > > >> >> >> >> > ,
> > > > >> >> David
> > > > >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> In article
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-1304122333260...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com
> > > > >> >> David
> > > > >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> In article
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-1304122333260...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >,
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > <dfritzin-8DA95E.18512713042...@news.eternal-september.o
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > rg> , David Fritzinger
Are you in favor of ALL thieves keeping their ill-gotten gains?
JD
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 17, 2012, 6:54:44 PM4/17/12
to
Palestinians ARE running out of land.
JD
Jason
Apr 17, 2012, 7:23:39 PM4/17/12
to
In article
<a95731d1-dfd0-4d2b...@m13g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
So what--we stole America from the Indians.
<a95731d1-dfd0-4d2b...@m13g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
David Fritzinger
Apr 17, 2012, 7:27:07 PM4/17/12
to
In article <Jason-17041...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > <dfritzin-8DA95E...@news.eternal-september.
Liar. Even Netanyahu has agreed with Obama. Obama never said he wants
Israel to go back to the 1967 borders (do you even know what they
were?). Obama said, and Netanyahu agreed, that for a fair peace
settlement in the Middle East, Israel would have to give the
Palestinians land so that each side would have approximately the amount
of land they had in 1967.
You really should learn something before you show your ignorance here.
Or, perhaps you just shouldn't post. After all, it is better to be quiet
and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
Israel to go back to the 1967 borders (do you even know what they
were?). Obama said, and Netanyahu agreed, that for a fair peace
settlement in the Middle East, Israel would have to give the
Palestinians land so that each side would have approximately the amount
of land they had in 1967.
You really should learn something before you show your ignorance here.
Or, perhaps you just shouldn't post. After all, it is better to be quiet
and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
linuxgal
Apr 17, 2012, 8:56:58 PM4/17/12
to
Jason wrote:
>
> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is trying
> to force Israel to give up even more territory.
>
>
Yeah, and he just gave Russia some islands in Alaska, and just like
>
> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is trying
> to force Israel to give up even more territory.
>
>
Israel, Alaska can't afford to get smaller like that.
Alex W.
Apr 17, 2012, 9:05:28 PM4/17/12
to
Nor does one wrong justify another wrong.
Free Lunch
Apr 17, 2012, 9:25:22 PM4/17/12
to
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:56:58 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>Jason wrote:
>>
>> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is trying
>> to force Israel to give up even more territory.
>>
Once again you show us that you are a completely ignorant fool who is
full of hatred, Jason.
she ever goes back to Alaska.
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>Jason wrote:
>>
>> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is trying
>> to force Israel to give up even more territory.
>>
full of hatred, Jason.
>
>Yeah, and he just gave Russia some islands in Alaska, and just like
>Israel, Alaska can't afford to get smaller like that.
No doubt, but it would make it easier for Sarah Palin to see Russia if
>Yeah, and he just gave Russia some islands in Alaska, and just like
>Israel, Alaska can't afford to get smaller like that.
she ever goes back to Alaska.
Mitchell Holman
Apr 17, 2012, 10:53:20 PM4/17/12
to
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-17041...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is
> trying to force Israel to give up even more territory.
America gave up land it conquered in war (France,
Western Germany, Italy, Saipan, Iwo Jima, Okinawa,
Tarawa, all of Japan). Why can't Israel?
news:Jason-17041...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is
> trying to force Israel to give up even more territory.
Western Germany, Italy, Saipan, Iwo Jima, Okinawa,
Tarawa, all of Japan). Why can't Israel?
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:02:47 AM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-72A0DE...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Has he done it or just said it to get Obama off his back? They should not
do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:06:46 AM4/18/12
to
In article <XnsA038DDBA3634...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
They have done it several different times--trading land for peace. The end
result is that there was NO peace. In fact, the Muslims have set up
missile lauching systems on the same land that Israel gave to the Muslims
in the last land for peace agreement.
The Muslims will say in an agreement that they will provide peace in
return for land--but after they get ownership of the land--they restart
the firing of missiles into Israel.
Would you enter into another peace agreement with the Muslims if you was
in charge of Israel? I would not do it if I was in charge of Israel.
result is that there was NO peace. In fact, the Muslims have set up
missile lauching systems on the same land that Israel gave to the Muslims
in the last land for peace agreement.
The Muslims will say in an agreement that they will provide peace in
return for land--but after they get ownership of the land--they restart
the firing of missiles into Israel.
Would you enter into another peace agreement with the Muslims if you was
in charge of Israel? I would not do it if I was in charge of Israel.
Devils Advocaat
Apr 18, 2012, 4:04:27 AM4/18/12
to
On Apr 17, 11:09 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
So you'd vote for someone you don't like to keep out of office someone
you don't like.
> In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-53-212-
> > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > > In article <4F8CB3E5.10...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.edu>
>
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-53-212-
> > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> >news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> > > > >> >> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> >news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
you don't like.
David Fritzinger
Apr 18, 2012, 10:15:37 AM4/18/12
to
In article
<Jason-18041...@67-150-122-94.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
No, he didn't. He realizes that the land swaps need to be a part of a
viable, two state solution. I do, however, agree that the other
countries in the Mideast need to recognize Israel's right to exist. I
also recognize that Israel shouldn't be building settlements on the West
Bank, and especially in East Jerusalem.
<Jason-18041...@67-150-122-94.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
viable, two state solution. I do, however, agree that the other
countries in the Mideast need to recognize Israel's right to exist. I
also recognize that Israel shouldn't be building settlements on the West
Bank, and especially in East Jerusalem.
David Fritzinger
Apr 18, 2012, 10:25:37 AM4/18/12
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In article <Jason-17041...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
So, let me get this straight. You want to go back to GW Bush's policies,
only on steroids. Remember how well they worked last time. We are still
in the economic difficulties caused by those policies, and you want to
vote for people who will only make things worse. Why do you hate the US
so?
only on steroids. Remember how well they worked last time. We are still
in the economic difficulties caused by those policies, and you want to
vote for people who will only make things worse. Why do you hate the US
so?
David Fritzinger
Apr 18, 2012, 10:28:42 AM4/18/12
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In article <Jason-17041...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
For good reason, lying Jason. Most of the deficits over the last 3 years
were caused by Bush policies, which I have demonstrated to you in the
past. That you keep bringing this up just shows how dishonest you are.
were caused by Bush policies, which I have demonstrated to you in the
past. That you keep bringing this up just shows how dishonest you are.
Devils Advocaat
Apr 18, 2012, 10:31:07 AM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 3:28 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com>
wrote:
> In article <Jason-1704121508010...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
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> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <XnsA0384991D6E75nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > r.o rg> ,
> > > >> >> >> >> David
It also shows up his ignorance of politics and policies.
wrote:
> In article <Jason-1704121508010...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
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>
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <XnsA0384991D6E75nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >news:Jason-16041...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > In article <XnsA037DC3D0835Anomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >news:Jason-16041...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> > In article <XnsA037A4292994nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-208-88.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> >> > In article <XnsA0374EF6756DFnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >>news:Jason-16041...@66-53-219-11.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> > <XnsA036DCE0BA487nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >> >>news:Jason-1504121810480001@67-150-121-
> > > >> >> >> >> 51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> > <XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >> >>news:Jason-1504121810480001@67-150-121-
> > > >> >> >> >> 51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwes
> > > >> >> >> >> >> t.c om:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > <XnsA03650F8EC7C9nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwes
> > > >> >> >> >> >> t.c om:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacw
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> est .co m:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > <dfritzin-CB0674.07185514042...@news.eternal-septembe
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-212-92.lsan.mdsg-pacw
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> est .co m:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > r.o rg> ,
> > > >> >> >> >> David
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-1304122333260...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwe
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Jason-1304122333260...@66-53-214-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwe
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> st. com
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >,
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <dfritzin-8DA95E.18512713042...@news.eternal-septe
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >,
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > mbe r.o rg> , David Fritzinger
Devils Advocaat
Apr 18, 2012, 11:14:52 AM4/18/12
to
On Apr 18, 3:25 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com>
wrote:
> In article <Jason-1704121509550...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
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> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Jason doesn't hate the US, at least not the US of his point of view.
wrote:
> In article <Jason-1704121509550...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
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> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-53-212-
> > > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > > > In article <4F8CB3E5.10...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.edu>
>
> > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-53-212-
> > > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > > > In article <4F8CB3E5.10...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.edu>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > >> >news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> > > > > >> >> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
>
> > > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > >> >news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
David Fritzinger
Apr 18, 2012, 11:31:37 AM4/18/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Apr 18, 2012, 3:30:57 PM4/18/12
to
On Apr 18, 12:02 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-72A0DE.19270717042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
There's one more Jason lie destroyed.
JD
> In article <dfritzin-72A0DE.19270717042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Liar. Even Netanyahu has agreed with Obama. Obama never said he wants
> > Israel to go back to the 1967 borders (do you even know what they
> > were?). Obama said, and Netanyahu agreed, that for a fair peace
> > settlement in the Middle East, Israel would have to give the
> > Palestinians land so that each side would have approximately the amount
> > of land they had in 1967.
>
> > You really should learn something before you show your ignorance here.
> > Or, perhaps you just shouldn't post. After all, it is better to be quiet
> > and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
>
> Has he done it or just said it to get Obama off his back? They should not
> do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
Natanyahu's been saying it since before Obama became President.
> > Liar. Even Netanyahu has agreed with Obama. Obama never said he wants
> > Israel to go back to the 1967 borders (do you even know what they
> > were?). Obama said, and Netanyahu agreed, that for a fair peace
> > settlement in the Middle East, Israel would have to give the
> > Palestinians land so that each side would have approximately the amount
> > of land they had in 1967.
>
> > You really should learn something before you show your ignorance here.
> > Or, perhaps you just shouldn't post. After all, it is better to be quiet
> > and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
>
> Has he done it or just said it to get Obama off his back? They should not
> do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
There's one more Jason lie destroyed.
JD
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:43:52 PM4/18/12
to
In article
<707a2e5c-35ee-4d6d...@35g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 11:09=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitche=
> ll
> > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-53-=
> :
> > > > > >> >> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > > >> >> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> =A0wrote:
> > > > > >> >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > >> >>>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.c=
> om:
> >
> > > > > >> >>>> =A0He is rich and found a way to pay a very
> se.
> >
> > > > > > He will have to release them in the near future. A poster stated =
> >
> > > > > =A0 =A0Instead he revealed his financed to the public.
> >
> > > > > =A0 =A0Romney is stalling.
> >
> > > > > =A0 =A0Which one will you be voting for?
republican that runs against Obama".
<707a2e5c-35ee-4d6d...@35g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 11:09=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >
> > > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitche=
> ll
> > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-53-=
> 212-
> > > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> > > > > > In article <4F8CB3E5.10...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.edu>
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > >> >news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com=
> > > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> > > > > > In article <4F8CB3E5.10...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.edu>
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> :
> > > > > >> >> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > > >> >> Mitchell Holman<nomailcomcast.net> =A0wrote:
> > > > > >> >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > >> >>>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.c=
> om:
> >
> > > > > >> >>>> =A0He is rich and found a way to pay a very
> > > > > >> >>>> low amount of money in taxes. He is a typical rich person.
> >
> > > > > >> >>> How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
> >
> > > > > >> >> He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
> >
> > > > > >> > Obama released his.
> > > > > >> > What is Romney hiding?
> >
> > > > > >> There is a saying: Better to stay silent and be thought a fool
> > > > > >> than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> > > > > >> I think Romney sees a similar principle in play here:
> > > > > >> Better to stay silent and be thought to pay a grotesquely
> > > > > >> unfair tax rate than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> > > > > >> There is no significant doubt, of course: Romney paid about the
> > > > > >> same rate as he paid last year, less than people who don't
> > > > > >> earn enough to keep all of his cars in gasoline. If his
> > > > > >> circumstances had changed, it would have been major news.
> > > > > >> "I'm running for office, for Pete's sake."
> >
> > > > > >> What I don't understand is why he is waiting until closer
> > > > > >> to the general election. Is he planning to stiff us on this
> > > > > >> year's tax returns? Does he really think he can win if he does t=
> >
> > > > > >> >>> How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
> >
> > > > > >> >> He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
> >
> > > > > >> > Obama released his.
> > > > > >> > What is Romney hiding?
> >
> > > > > >> There is a saying: Better to stay silent and be thought a fool
> > > > > >> than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> > > > > >> I think Romney sees a similar principle in play here:
> > > > > >> Better to stay silent and be thought to pay a grotesquely
> > > > > >> unfair tax rate than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> > > > > >> There is no significant doubt, of course: Romney paid about the
> > > > > >> same rate as he paid last year, less than people who don't
> > > > > >> earn enough to keep all of his cars in gasoline. If his
> > > > > >> circumstances had changed, it would have been major news.
> > > > > >> "I'm running for office, for Pete's sake."
> >
> > > > > >> What I don't understand is why he is waiting until closer
> > > > > >> to the general election. Is he planning to stiff us on this
> hat?
> >
> > > > > >> Pure speculation: What if Romney wants to wait and see if he
> > > > > >> has a reasonable chance of beating Obama, closer to the general
> > > > > >> election, before he performs such a public (financial) strip tea=
> >
> > > > > >> Pure speculation: What if Romney wants to wait and see if he
> > > > > >> has a reasonable chance of beating Obama, closer to the general
> se.
> >
> > > > > > He will have to release them in the near future. A poster stated =
> that
> > > > > he
> > > > > > requested a 6 month extention.
> >
> > > > > =A0 =A0As could Obama.
> > > > > he
> > > > > > requested a 6 month extention.
> >
> >
> > > > > =A0 =A0Instead he revealed his financed to the public.
> >
> > > > > =A0 =A0Romney is stalling.
> >
> > > > > =A0 =A0Which one will you be voting for?
> >
> > > > Romney.
> >
> > > You want to vote for a liar?
> >
> > I would vote for whatever republican that was running against Obama--even
> > it had been Gingrich and I never have liked him.
>
> So you'd vote for someone you don't like to keep out of office someone
> you don't like.
Someone called it "anybody but Obama"--I call it "voting for any
> > > > Romney.
> >
> > > You want to vote for a liar?
> >
> > I would vote for whatever republican that was running against Obama--even
> > it had been Gingrich and I never have liked him.
>
> So you'd vote for someone you don't like to keep out of office someone
> you don't like.
republican that runs against Obama".
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:47:15 PM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-CEAC2A...@news.eternal-september.org>,
To be clearn--they could learn from Bush's mistakes and not make the same
mistakes that Bush2 made.
That is what I would do if I presently president. I would also eliminate
any duplicate federal agencies. At one time, I seem to recall reading that
we once had three different farm agencies. I would keep the best of the
three agencies and eliminate the other two agencies.
mistakes that Bush2 made.
That is what I would do if I presently president. I would also eliminate
any duplicate federal agencies. At one time, I seem to recall reading that
we once had three different farm agencies. I would keep the best of the
three agencies and eliminate the other two agencies.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:47:58 PM4/18/12
to
In article
<1cfbc4aa-a776-46e7...@z3g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 3:25=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com>
> >
> > > > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitc=
> hell
> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-5=
> 3-212-
> > > > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> > > > > > > In article <4F8CB3E5.10...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.ed=
> om:
> > > > > > >> >> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>=
> > > > > > >> >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > > >> >>>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest=
> .com:
> >
> > > > > > >> >>>> =A0He is rich and found a way to pay a very
> > > > > > >> >>>> low amount of money in taxes. He is a typical rich person=
> l
> > > > > > >> election, before he performs such a public (financial) strip t=
> ease.
> >
> > > > > > > He will have to release them in the near future. A poster state=
<1cfbc4aa-a776-46e7...@z3g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 3:25=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > In article <Jason-1704121509550...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article
> > > > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <Jason-1704121509550...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <dfritzin-FEEF30.09302117042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article
> > > > <Jason-1604122009490...@67-150-122-192.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >
> > > > > In article <XnsA037DC8671A8Dnomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitc=
> hell
> > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1604121833450001@66-5=
> 3-212-
> > > > > > 147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> > > > > > > In article <4F8CB3E5.10...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.ed=
> u>
> > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > > >> >news:Jason-15041...@67-150-121-51.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.c=
> > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >> On 4/15/2012 10:48 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> om:
> > > > > > >> >> In article<XnsA036C0FE4C23nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>=
> > > > > > >> >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > > >> >>>news:Jason-15041...@66-53-216-117.lsan.mdsg-pacwest=
> .com:
> >
> > > > > > >> >>>> =A0He is rich and found a way to pay a very
> > > > > > >> >>>> low amount of money in taxes. He is a typical rich person=
> .
> >
> > > > > > >> >>> How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
> >
> > > > > > >> >> He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
> >
> > > > > > >> > Obama released his.
> > > > > > >> > What is Romney hiding?
> >
> > > > > > >> There is a saying: Better to stay silent and be thought a fool
> > > > > > >> than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> > > > > > >> I think Romney sees a similar principle in play here:
> > > > > > >> Better to stay silent and be thought to pay a grotesquely
> > > > > > >> unfair tax rate than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> > > > > > >> There is no significant doubt, of course: Romney paid about th=
> >
> > > > > > >> >>> How much in taxes did "typical rich person" Romney pay?
> >
> > > > > > >> >> He has not yet released his latest tax reports.
> >
> > > > > > >> > Obama released his.
> > > > > > >> > What is Romney hiding?
> >
> > > > > > >> There is a saying: Better to stay silent and be thought a fool
> > > > > > >> than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> > > > > > >> I think Romney sees a similar principle in play here:
> > > > > > >> Better to stay silent and be thought to pay a grotesquely
> > > > > > >> unfair tax rate than to speak and remove all doubt.
> >
> e
> > > > > > >> same rate as he paid last year, less than people who don't
> > > > > > >> earn enough to keep all of his cars in gasoline. If his
> > > > > > >> circumstances had changed, it would have been major news.
> > > > > > >> "I'm running for office, for Pete's sake."
> >
> > > > > > >> What I don't understand is why he is waiting until closer
> > > > > > >> to the general election. Is he planning to stiff us on this
> > > > > > >> year's tax returns? Does he really think he can win if he does=
> > > > > > >> same rate as he paid last year, less than people who don't
> > > > > > >> earn enough to keep all of his cars in gasoline. If his
> > > > > > >> circumstances had changed, it would have been major news.
> > > > > > >> "I'm running for office, for Pete's sake."
> >
> > > > > > >> What I don't understand is why he is waiting until closer
> > > > > > >> to the general election. Is he planning to stiff us on this
> that?
> >
> > > > > > >> Pure speculation: What if Romney wants to wait and see if he
> > > > > > >> has a reasonable chance of beating Obama, closer to the genera=
> >
> > > > > > >> Pure speculation: What if Romney wants to wait and see if he
> l
> > > > > > >> election, before he performs such a public (financial) strip t=
> ease.
> >
> > > > > > > He will have to release them in the near future. A poster state=
> d that
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > requested a 6 month extention.
> >
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > requested a 6 month extention.
> >
> > > > > > =A0 =A0As could Obama.
> >
> > > > > > =A0 =A0Instead he revealed his financed to the public.
> >
> > > > > > =A0 =A0Romney is stalling.
> >
> > > > > > =A0 =A0Which one will you be voting for?
> >
> > > > > > =A0 =A0Instead he revealed his financed to the public.
> >
> > > > > > =A0 =A0Romney is stalling.
> >
> >
> > > > > Romney.
> >
> > > > You want to vote for a liar?
> >
> > > I would vote for whatever republican that was running against Obama--ev=
> > > > > Romney.
> >
> > > > You want to vote for a liar?
> >
> en
> > > it had been Gingrich and I never have liked him.
> >
> > So, let me get this straight. You want to go back to GW Bush's policies,
> > only on steroids. Remember how well they worked last time. We are still
> > in the economic difficulties caused by those policies, and you want to
> > vote for people who will only make things worse. Why do you hate the US
> > so?
>
> Jason doesn't hate the US, at least not the US of his point of view.
more like the conservative republican point of view.
> > > it had been Gingrich and I never have liked him.
> >
> > So, let me get this straight. You want to go back to GW Bush's policies,
> > only on steroids. Remember how well they worked last time. We are still
> > in the economic difficulties caused by those policies, and you want to
> > vote for people who will only make things worse. Why do you hate the US
> > so?
>
> Jason doesn't hate the US, at least not the US of his point of view.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:49:15 PM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-F25FBA...@news.eternal-september.org>,
That is not correct. I don't have any respect for Obama and the liberal
democrat members of Congress---and liberal judges.
However, I do love America.
democrat members of Congress---and liberal judges.
However, I do love America.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:50:59 PM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-0673AF...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I am glad that we agree on the "Israel's right to exist" issue.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 3:57:05 PM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-EB2A17...@news.eternal-september.org>,
There is a reason for that--as you know--one of the major costs that ALL
presidents have had to deal with are costs to fund social security;
medicare; farm programs; and other social program.
Both democrats and repubicans voted for those above programs. You can't
blame Bush2 for those above programs.
That means Bush2 is not totally to blame--those expensive programs
mentioned above are also to blame.
That's why I disagree with you when you blame Bush2 for ALL of the money
that has been added to the national debt over the last three years.
presidents have had to deal with are costs to fund social security;
medicare; farm programs; and other social program.
Both democrats and repubicans voted for those above programs. You can't
blame Bush2 for those above programs.
That means Bush2 is not totally to blame--those expensive programs
mentioned above are also to blame.
That's why I disagree with you when you blame Bush2 for ALL of the money
that has been added to the national debt over the last three years.
David Fritzinger
Apr 18, 2012, 3:59:58 PM4/18/12
to
In article
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
I'm not blaming Bush for those programs. I am blaming Bush for the
following:
1) 2 rounds of tax cuts that didn't help the economy and are costing
hundreds of billions of dollars every year.
2) 2 wars that Bush got us into and never paid for. I agreed with the
invasion of Afghanistan, but feel Bush and crew really messed things up
by removing so many resources from Afghanistan so he could invade Iraq.
3) A huge economic collapse caused by 30 years of Republican fiscal and
regulatory policies, including getting rid of many regulations that may
have prevented much of the fallout from the housing bubble.
blame for the three things I mentioned above, which, as I showed, are
the primary cause of the huge deficits we are having now.
which accounts for most of the deficits over the last 3 years. Obama is
responsible for a small part of those deficits, namely the cost of the
stimulus package he got through Congress. However, if we hadn't had the
stimulus, we would probably be in the middle of a depression now, rather
than recovering from a really bad recession.
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
following:
1) 2 rounds of tax cuts that didn't help the economy and are costing
hundreds of billions of dollars every year.
2) 2 wars that Bush got us into and never paid for. I agreed with the
invasion of Afghanistan, but feel Bush and crew really messed things up
by removing so many resources from Afghanistan so he could invade Iraq.
3) A huge economic collapse caused by 30 years of Republican fiscal and
regulatory policies, including getting rid of many regulations that may
have prevented much of the fallout from the housing bubble.
>
> That means Bush2 is not totally to blame--those expensive programs
> mentioned above are also to blame.
I never said Bush was to blame for the entitlements. I do say Bush is to
> That means Bush2 is not totally to blame--those expensive programs
> mentioned above are also to blame.
blame for the three things I mentioned above, which, as I showed, are
the primary cause of the huge deficits we are having now.
>
> That's why I disagree with you when you blame Bush2 for ALL of the money
> that has been added to the national debt over the last three years.
I never said all the money. He is to blame for the items I listed above,
> That's why I disagree with you when you blame Bush2 for ALL of the money
> that has been added to the national debt over the last three years.
which accounts for most of the deficits over the last 3 years. Obama is
responsible for a small part of those deficits, namely the cost of the
stimulus package he got through Congress. However, if we hadn't had the
stimulus, we would probably be in the middle of a depression now, rather
than recovering from a really bad recession.
David Fritzinger
Apr 18, 2012, 4:01:15 PM4/18/12
to
In article
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Yet, the people you want to rule the US will destroy it, like they did
during the Bush administration. Go figure...
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
during the Bush administration. Go figure...
David Fritzinger
Apr 18, 2012, 4:03:24 PM4/18/12
to
In article
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Fool! Romney plans on making exactly the same mistakes Bush made,
squared. He wants to get rid of regulations that protect us from Wall
Street doing what they did in 2007 and 2008. He wants to cut taxes on
the rich, etc. IOW, he wants to do what BUsh did, only worse.
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
squared. He wants to get rid of regulations that protect us from Wall
Street doing what they did in 2007 and 2008. He wants to cut taxes on
the rich, etc. IOW, he wants to do what BUsh did, only worse.
>
> That is what I would do if I presently president. I would also eliminate
> any duplicate federal agencies. At one time, I seem to recall reading that
> we once had three different farm agencies. I would keep the best of the
> three agencies and eliminate the other two agencies.
THat isn't going to save much money.
> That is what I would do if I presently president. I would also eliminate
> any duplicate federal agencies. At one time, I seem to recall reading that
> we once had three different farm agencies. I would keep the best of the
> three agencies and eliminate the other two agencies.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 4:42:13 PM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-CBED12...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I only wish that I could disagree with you. Bush2 was a terrible president.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 4:44:34 PM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-15A9E8...@news.eternal-september.org>,
If Romney makes the SAME mistakes that Bush2 made--he will become a one
term president and will go down in history as a bad president.
term president and will go down in history as a bad president.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 4:45:31 PM4/18/12
to
In article <dfritzin-60D6C0...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I disagree--I think that it is more likely that America will be destroyed
if Obama wins a second term.
if Obama wins a second term.
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 4:58:31 PM4/18/12
to
In article
<57e605d9-3199-4b26...@e42g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Jeanne Douglas <hlw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 12:02=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-72A0DE.19270717042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > Liar. Even Netanyahu has agreed with Obama. Obama never said he wants
> > > Israel to go back to the 1967 borders (do you even know what they
> > > were?). Obama said, and Netanyahu agreed, that for a fair peace
> > > settlement in the Middle East, Israel would have to give the
> > > Palestinians land so that each side would have approximately the amount
> > > of land they had in 1967.
> >
> > > You really should learn something before you show your ignorance here.
> > > Or, perhaps you just shouldn't post. After all, it is better to be quie=
<57e605d9-3199-4b26...@e42g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Jeanne Douglas <hlw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 12:02=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-72A0DE.19270717042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > Liar. Even Netanyahu has agreed with Obama. Obama never said he wants
> > > Israel to go back to the 1967 borders (do you even know what they
> > > were?). Obama said, and Netanyahu agreed, that for a fair peace
> > > settlement in the Middle East, Israel would have to give the
> > > Palestinians land so that each side would have approximately the amount
> > > of land they had in 1967.
> >
> > > You really should learn something before you show your ignorance here.
> t
> > > and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
> >
> > Has he done it or just said it to get Obama off his back? They should not
> > do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
>
> Natanyahu's been saying it since before Obama became President.
>
> There's one more Jason lie destroyed.
>
> JD
But has he done it? --it appears to me that he is an expert at stalling.
> > > and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
> >
> > Has he done it or just said it to get Obama off his back? They should not
> > do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
>
> Natanyahu's been saying it since before Obama became President.
>
> There's one more Jason lie destroyed.
>
> JD
Alex W.
Apr 18, 2012, 6:52:03 PM4/18/12
to
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:50:59 -0700, Jason wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-0673AF...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <Jason-18041...@67-150-122-94.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> In article <dfritzin-0673AF...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <Jason-18041...@67-150-122-94.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>>> > You really should learn something before you show your ignorance here.
>>> > Or, perhaps you just shouldn't post. After all, it is better to be quiet
>>> > and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
>>>
>>> Has he done it or just said it to get Obama off his back? They should not
>>> do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
>>
>> No, he didn't. He realizes that the land swaps need to be a part of a
>> viable, two state solution. I do, however, agree that the other
>> countries in the Mideast need to recognize Israel's right to exist. I
>> also recognize that Israel shouldn't be building settlements on the West
>> Bank, and especially in East Jerusalem.
>
> I am glad that we agree on the "Israel's right to exist" issue.
You don't.
>>> > Or, perhaps you just shouldn't post. After all, it is better to be quiet
>>> > and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.
>>>
>>> Has he done it or just said it to get Obama off his back? They should not
>>> do it unless the Muslims clearly state that Israel has a right to exist.
>>
>> No, he didn't. He realizes that the land swaps need to be a part of a
>> viable, two state solution. I do, however, agree that the other
>> countries in the Mideast need to recognize Israel's right to exist. I
>> also recognize that Israel shouldn't be building settlements on the West
>> Bank, and especially in East Jerusalem.
>
> I am glad that we agree on the "Israel's right to exist" issue.
We don't.
Most sensible people who look at the issue will see that a
two-state solution is the only viable one, and that is requires
two *viable* states.
You and your fellow antisemites, OTOH, define Israel's right to
exist as "ONLY Israel has a right to exist".
Alex W.
Apr 18, 2012, 6:52:48 PM4/18/12
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Give me a fucking cite RIGHT NOW when Israel gave up land to the
Palestinians.
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 18, 2012, 6:51:21 PM4/18/12
to
wealth and the rest of us should be grateful for the scraps? That
point of view?
JD
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 18, 2012, 6:52:11 PM4/18/12
to
On Apr 18, 12:49 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-F25FBA.11313718042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > <1cfbc4aa-a776-46e7-9a6c-e155f4b18...@z3g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
Hating the only people trying to save this country is really stupid.
JD
> In article <dfritzin-F25FBA.11313718042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > <1cfbc4aa-a776-46e7-9a6c-e155f4b18...@z3g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
JD
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 8:20:16 PM4/18/12
to
In article <maxifkd15tfb.ls1dptlk4139$.d...@40tude.net>, ing...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
We believe that Muslims and Palest. have the right to exist.
wrote:
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 8:20:59 PM4/18/12
to
Jason
Apr 18, 2012, 8:28:11 PM4/18/12
to
In article
<2d12919d-304b-4b18...@h12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
no--more like if people want to survive in the world--they should work if
they are able to work--and not depend on the gov't to support them.
I don't have any problem with handicapped and disabled people getting
benefits from city, state and the federal government.
However, I don't like it when heroin addicts and alcoholics get benefits
from any government agencies--except for homeless centers and food
distribution centers.
<2d12919d-304b-4b18...@h12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
they are able to work--and not depend on the gov't to support them.
I don't have any problem with handicapped and disabled people getting
benefits from city, state and the federal government.
However, I don't like it when heroin addicts and alcoholics get benefits
from any government agencies--except for homeless centers and food
distribution centers.
Tom McDonald
Apr 18, 2012, 8:27:58 PM4/18/12
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linuxgal
Apr 18, 2012, 8:48:17 PM4/18/12
to
Jason wrote:
>> Give me a fucking cite RIGHT NOW when Israel gave up land to the
>> Palestinians.
>
> The last peace agreement.
>
>
The last peace agreement was with Jordan, and no disputed land was
>> Give me a fucking cite RIGHT NOW when Israel gave up land to the
>> Palestinians.
>
> The last peace agreement.
>
>
involved. Before that, there was a peace agreement with Egypt, and the
only land that was given to Egypt was the Sinai, which was seized by
Israel in June 1967.
linuxgal
Apr 18, 2012, 9:06:19 PM4/18/12
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Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> You mean the point of view that the top 1% deserve to own all the
> wealth and the rest of us should be grateful for the scraps? That
> point of view?
So in your math class they taught you that 43 percent of the wealth is
> You mean the point of view that the top 1% deserve to own all the
> wealth and the rest of us should be grateful for the scraps? That
> point of view?
"all the wealth" and that 57 percent of the wealth is scraps. Check.
Mitchell Holman
Apr 18, 2012, 10:33:11 PM4/18/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Just like the doom and gloom forecasts if
Obama won a first term.
America still seems to be standing, no?
news:Jason-18041...@67-150-123-126.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Obama won a first term.
America still seems to be standing, no?
Mitchell Holman
Apr 18, 2012, 10:35:29 PM4/18/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-18041...@66-53-211-26.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Did Jesus refuse to heal anyone because of
whatever vice they had fallen victim to?
news:Jason-18041...@66-53-211-26.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
whatever vice they had fallen victim to?
Mitchell Holman
Apr 18, 2012, 10:44:40 PM4/18/12
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linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in news:s4qdnU-
AseXL_BLSnZ2...@giganews.com:
Which would have been too expensive for Israel
to occupy and defend anyway. There is no sacrifice
in giving away that which you do not want........
AseXL_BLSnZ2...@giganews.com:
to occupy and defend anyway. There is no sacrifice
in giving away that which you do not want........
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 18, 2012, 10:49:42 PM4/18/12
to
In article <Jason-18041...@66-53-211-26.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
That's NOT an answer.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 18, 2012, 10:55:14 PM4/18/12
to
have increased their productivity greatly with absolutely no increase in
pay.
> I don't have any problem with handicapped and disabled people getting
> benefits from city, state and the federal government.
>
> However, I don't like it when heroin addicts and alcoholics get benefits
> from any government agencies--except for homeless centers and food
> distribution centers.
through saying you thought handicapped and disabled people should get
benefits. Why are you so evil?
Jason
Apr 19, 2012, 1:01:03 AM4/19/12
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In article <XnsA039DA5097E8B...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Yes, but the foundation is getting weaker every year that he is still in
office. If he loses his next election, we may be able to repair the
foundation.
office. If he loses his next election, we may be able to repair the
foundation.
Jason
Apr 19, 2012, 1:02:42 AM4/19/12
to
In article <s4qdnU-AseXL_BLS...@giganews.com>, linuxgal
I do remember seeing Jews not wanting to surrender their buildings that
was in the land that was given to the Muslims.
was in the land that was given to the Muslims.
Jason
Apr 19, 2012, 1:08:40 AM4/19/12
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Israel and the Palestinian Territories. February 2008 | Peace Agreements.
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Recognizes the right of Israel to exist in peace and security;; Accepts UN
... On
September 28, 1995, the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West
Bank ...
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10 min -
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'US behind every peace agreement Israel has made' ‹ RT
Israel and the Palestinians should resolve their conflict by themselves
without the diplomatic ...
5 min -
http://rt.com/news/israel-palestine-negotiations-quartet-977/
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Sep 13, 1993 ... After decades of bloody animosity, representatives of
Israel and Palestine meet
on the South Lawn of the White House and sign a framework for ...
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and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas during the Middle ...
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September, they will go to UN
Security Council with enough support that it would recommend ...
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Jason
Apr 19, 2012, 1:30:56 AM4/19/12
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In article <hlwdjsd-412785...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
I understand your point. However, I consider heroin addiction and
alcoholism far different than heart disease, diabetes and Lupus.
alcoholism far different than heart disease, diabetes and Lupus.
Jason
Apr 19, 2012, 1:32:38 AM4/19/12
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In article <XnsA039DAB49D4F5...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
I believe that none of them were addicted to drugs or alcoholics. They did
have wine in those days.
have wine in those days.
Jason
Apr 19, 2012, 1:36:26 AM4/19/12
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Jason
Apr 19, 2012, 1:42:15 AM4/19/12
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In article <s4qdnUWAseUN-BLS...@giganews.com>, linuxgal
It would be great if everyone was truly equal.
However, we both know how the real world works.
Even in the former Soviet Union where everyone was suppose to be totally
equal--the leaders and the people in the upper branches of the government
lived in luxury while millions lived in total poverty.
The only truly perfect world was in the book I read about the King Author
and the Knights of the Round Table.
Guess what--it was fictional book.
However, we both know how the real world works.
Even in the former Soviet Union where everyone was suppose to be totally
equal--the leaders and the people in the upper branches of the government
lived in luxury while millions lived in total poverty.
The only truly perfect world was in the book I read about the King Author
and the Knights of the Round Table.
Guess what--it was fictional book.
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 19, 2012, 2:03:33 AM4/19/12
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In article
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-14.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
And once again Jason posts a completely worthless google search result
list instead of actually backing up his assertion.
Deflection noted. Deflection rejected.
<Jason-18041...@67-150-123-14.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
list instead of actually backing up his assertion.
Deflection noted. Deflection rejected.
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 19, 2012, 2:05:31 AM4/19/12
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every other piece of the safety net, the minimum wage will be gone, and
wages will be approaching 3rd world level.
Wombat
Apr 19, 2012, 3:01:07 AM4/19/12
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On Apr 19, 12:52 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:06:46 -0700, Jason wrote:
> > In article <XnsA038DDBA3634nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:06:46 -0700, Jason wrote:
settlements as they left a couple of years ago?
Wombat
Apr 19, 2012, 3:03:21 AM4/19/12
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On Apr 19, 7:08 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <i_Ijr.17217$Ex1.9...@newsfe18.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > In article<bxuthbzijfmx.g4x2iy9be6pm....@40tude.net>,
> > >>> In article<XnsA038DDBA3634nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> Agreement on Movement and Access (11-15-2005) Posted by USIP Library on: ...www.usip.org/publications/peace-agreements-israel-palestine- 32k - Cached
Doing it properly gives one link - his post!
> In article <i_Ijr.17217$Ex1.9...@newsfe18.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > In article<bxuthbzijfmx.g4x2iy9be6pm....@40tude.net>,
> > >>> In article<XnsA038DDBA3634nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> - Similar pages
>
> guide to the peace process: israel-palestinian negotiations
> Recognizes the right of Israel to exist in peace and security;; Accepts UN
> ... On
> September 28, 1995, the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West
> Bank ...www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/...to.../Israel-Palestinian+Negotiations.htm- 97k -
>
> guide to the peace process: israel-palestinian negotiations
> Recognizes the right of Israel to exist in peace and security;; Accepts UN
> ... On
> September 28, 1995, the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement on the West
> Cached - Similar pages
>
> Tribulation 2011, Israel peace treaty, world to declare Palestinian ...
> Prophecy Update, World to unilaterally declare Palestinian State. Is
> tribulation almost here ...
> 10 min -http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlXnk1KgyzwI
>
> Tribulation 2011, Israel peace treaty, world to declare Palestinian ...
> Prophecy Update, World to unilaterally declare Palestinian State. Is
> tribulation almost here ...
>
> 'US behind every peace agreement Israel has made' ‹ RT
> Israel and the Palestinians should resolve their conflict by themselves
> without the diplomatic ...
> 5 min -http://rt.com/news/israel-palestine-negotiations-quartet-977/
> 'US behind every peace agreement Israel has made' ‹ RT
> Israel and the Palestinians should resolve their conflict by themselves
> without the diplomatic ...
>
> Israel-Palestine peace accord signed ‹ History.com This Day in ...
> Sep 13, 1993 ... After decades of bloody animosity, representatives of
> Israel and Palestine meet
> on the South Lawn of the White House and sign a framework for ...www.history.com/this-day-in.../israel-palestine-peace-accord-signed- 101k
> Israel-Palestine peace accord signed ‹ History.com This Day in ...
> Sep 13, 1993 ... After decades of bloody animosity, representatives of
> Israel and Palestine meet
> - Cached - Similar pages
>
> Israel and Palestinians commit to 2008 peace treaty | Reuters
> Nov 27, 2007 ... 1 of 38. President Bush hosts a meeting with Israel's
> Prime Minister Ehud Olmert
> and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas during the Middle ...www.reuters.com/.../us-palestinians-israel-idUSN2636654420071127- 105k -
>
> Israel and Palestinians commit to 2008 peace treaty | Reuters
> Nov 27, 2007 ... 1 of 38. President Bush hosts a meeting with Israel's
> Prime Minister Ehud Olmert
> Cached - Similar pages
>
> Geneva Initiative - Yes to an agreement - English
> The Geneva Accord. A Model Israeli-Palestinian Peace Agreement. Draft
> Permanent Status Agreement. Preamble. The State of Israel (hereinafter
> ³Israel²)
> and ...www.geneva-accord.org/mainmenu/english- 121k - Cached - Similar pages
>
> Geneva Initiative - Yes to an agreement - English
> The Geneva Accord. A Model Israeli-Palestinian Peace Agreement. Draft
> Permanent Status Agreement. Preamble. The State of Israel (hereinafter
> ³Israel²)
>
> Palestinian UN diplomat: Palestinians prefer peace treaty with Israel ...
> Apr 19, 2011 ... Palestinians say if peace treaty not reached by
> September, they will go to UN
> Security Council with enough support that it would recommend ...www.haaretz.com/.../palestinian-un-diplomat-palestinians-prefer-peace...
> Palestinian UN diplomat: Palestinians prefer peace treaty with Israel ...
> Apr 19, 2011 ... Palestinians say if peace treaty not reached by
> September, they will go to UN
> -with-israel-by-september-1.356731 - 128k - Cached - Similar pages
Yet again Jason shows he does not know how to do google searches.
Doing it properly gives one link - his post!
Alex W.
Apr 19, 2012, 4:29:51 AM4/19/12
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clear buildings they had illegally built on Palestinian land.
THis was not a matter of giving land to the Muslims, but an issue
of returning land previously robbed from them.
For that matter, "Palestinian" does not equal "Muslim". It is a
cultural label rather than a religious one. There are
significant Christian and Druze minorities among the
Palestinians, and indeed some Jewish Palestinians.
Devils Advocaat
Apr 19, 2012, 5:58:48 AM4/19/12
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On Apr 19, 1:20 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <bxuthbzijfmx.g4x2iy9be6pm....@40tude.net>, ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:06:46 -0700, Jason wrote:
>
> > > In article <XnsA038DDBA3634nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:06:46 -0700, Jason wrote:
>
> > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>news:Jason-17041...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >>> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is
> > >>> trying to force Israel to give up even more territory.
>
> > >> America gave up land it conquered in war (France,
> > >> Western Germany, Italy, Saipan, Iwo Jima, Okinawa,
> > >> Tarawa, all of Japan). Why can't Israel?
>
> > > They have done it several different times--trading land for peace. The end
> > > result is that there was NO peace. In fact, the Muslims have set up
> > > missile lauching systems on the same land that Israel gave to the Muslims
> > > in the last land for peace agreement.
>
> > > The Muslims will say in an agreement that they will provide peace in
> > > return for land--but after they get ownership of the land--they restart
> > > the firing of missiles into Israel.
>
> > > Would you enter into another peace agreement with the Muslims if you was
> > > in charge of Israel? I would not do it if I was in charge of Israel.
>
> > Cite.
> > Give me a fucking cite RIGHT NOW when Israel gave up land to the
> > Palestinians.
>
> The last peace agreement.
That isn't exactly a citation.
>
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>news:Jason-17041...@66-53-218-41.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >>> Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is
> > >>> trying to force Israel to give up even more territory.
>
> > >> America gave up land it conquered in war (France,
> > >> Western Germany, Italy, Saipan, Iwo Jima, Okinawa,
> > >> Tarawa, all of Japan). Why can't Israel?
>
> > > They have done it several different times--trading land for peace. The end
> > > result is that there was NO peace. In fact, the Muslims have set up
> > > missile lauching systems on the same land that Israel gave to the Muslims
> > > in the last land for peace agreement.
>
> > > The Muslims will say in an agreement that they will provide peace in
> > > return for land--but after they get ownership of the land--they restart
> > > the firing of missiles into Israel.
>
> > > Would you enter into another peace agreement with the Muslims if you was
> > > in charge of Israel? I would not do it if I was in charge of Israel.
>
> > Cite.
> > Give me a fucking cite RIGHT NOW when Israel gave up land to the
> > Palestinians.
>
> The last peace agreement.
linuxgal
Apr 19, 2012, 7:11:27 AM4/19/12
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death, "You know how they say you can't take it with you? *I'm taking
it with me!*
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