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 More options Apr 27 2012, 4:43 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism, sci.anthropology.paleo
From: Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:43:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 27 2012 4:43 am
Subject: Re: Jason and the Whales
On Apr 27, 7:58 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article <dfritzin-7C19F4.19152126042...@news.eternal-september.org>,

> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-2604121602170...@66-53-220-223.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> > > In article <dfritzin-53078B.18423626042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > In article <Jason-2604121336220...@66-53-208-61.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> > > > > In article <dfritzin-8DACAA.15491826042...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > In article

> <Jason-2604121253120...@66-53-208-61.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > > > > >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> > > > > > > In article <XnsA041501BDB855nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > > > > Mitchell
> > > > > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > >     So you will defund medical care for poor people and
> > > > > > > > just let them suffer and die untreated.

> > > > > > > >     Is that "What Jesus Would Do"?

> > > > > > > Jesus would probably heal them.

> > > > > > What a disgusting cop out. Now, answer the real question. Would Jesus
> > > > > > advise that the poor just be allowed to die miserably if they can't
> > > > > > afford health care?

> > > > > I think that it would be great if everyone had free heathcare funded by
> > > > > the government. However, I am concerned that it would make our national
> > > > > debt and budget problems far worse. Jesus would probably be in favor of
> > > > > free health care for everyone in the world.

> > > > Except, of course, that it wouldn't be all that hard to raise the money,
> > > > as I have pointed out. Plus, every time you say "free health care", you
> > > > are lying, since it isn't free.

> > > > > In 2033, SS will run out of money.

> > > > > In 2024, Medicare will run out of money.

> > > > > If we can't afford to properly fund SS and Medicare--how can we
> afford to
> > > > > provide free health insurance for over 30 million Americans?

> > > > We can afford to do so. I have provided the means in several posts now.
> > > > Therefore, your entire post above is nothing but one big lie. Why am I
> > > > not surprised?

> > > You still don't get it. We are over 15 trillion dollars in debt. This
> > > would make  it worse--not better.

> > Why do you continue to lie. I have demonstrated that the ACA will reduce
> > the deficit, not increase it.

> > > You are like the owner of a house that is one million dollars in debt.
> > > Instead of trying your best to pay off that million dollar debt--you
> > > decide to buy a new BMW 335i and a new sail boat that costs $250,000.

> > Rather than lying about me, why don't you find the post where I showed
> > how we could simply, and not very painfully, pay for both Medicare and
> > Social Security. Too lazy? I posted it twice, in the last two days.

> > > When your financial advisor tells you to not buy that BMW and the
> > > sailboat--you tell him "I have the means to pay for it".

> > You really are dishonest. I told you how it could be paid for. You
> > insisting I didn't is just a blatant lie. Why are you so dishonest?

> > > A better option for the USA--cancel ObamaCare. Instead, pay off the 15
> > > trillion dollar national debt.

> > You probably want to go along with Romney and massively cut taxes on the
> > rich and pay for it by cutting funding for programs for the poor and
> > middle class, not to mention programs, like scientific research and
> > infrastructure repair, that we need to be a great country in the future.
> > And, it seems apparent that you will get your jollies watching all those
> > who cannot afford healthcare die or go bankrupt. That's what you want,
> > isn't it?

> > > A better option for you--don't buy the new BMW and the sailboat--pay off
> > > that million dollar loan.

> > Since you don't know anything about me, or my financial situation, you
> > should probably not prattle on about it. Fact is, we can afford to pay
> > for decent health care for everyone in the US. I provided a way, but you
> > are too lazy or too insensitive to bother to see what it is. Why do you
> > hate the people of the US so?

> OK--use that WAY that you mentioned above to reduce national debt to 7
> trillion dollars. After it is reduced to 7 trillion dollars--implement
> ObamaCare.

In the meantime who is going to help those who cannot afford even
basic medical care?

 
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