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Dave Holloway

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Sep 7, 2001, 10:38:42 AM9/7/01
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Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for
July/August 2001. Vote for your favorite by emailing me, or by
responding to this thread. Votes will be accepted until midnight, 12
September, 2001. See rules below. Questions? Comments? Insults?
Donations? Email me.

--1--

"Reality doesn't depend on what makes the best small talk.'

Written by Steve Caupp


--2--
[In response to:]

> >Christianity at the time of Christ started out with roughly 120 believers
> >and grew to 6 million in a few short years.
> >Sounds authentic to me and I am proud to be a part of the largest community
> >in the world. [...] You atheists are a dismal number indeed

"There are always much fewer wolves than sheep."

Written by Mark Richardson


--3--

"Are you willing to risk awaking from your nightmare?"

Written by John Popelish


--4--

"If his opinion is that you can continue to sin and still get into
heaven, his opinion and heaven are both worthless. It makes heaven a
place where hypocritical sinners go after death. The only difference
between that and hell is that the sinners in hell aren't hypocrites."

Written by Al Klein


--5--
[In response to:]

>>Nothing false shocks me

"I guess that comes with being a Christian."

Written by raven1


--6--

"The only difference between you and Linus is that Linus doesn't tell
everyone that they'll be punished if they don't also have a blanket."

Written by John Hattan


--7--

"Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
scientific knowledge is go away."

Written by Kronk


--8--
[In response to:]

> >One objection to evolution I often hear about is not scientific but
> >philosophical. It is claimed that a universe governed by impersonal
> >forces, without a higher power, and a life lived in such a universe,
> >without the possibility of an afterlife, is utterly devoid of meaning.
> >Would anyone care to answer this objection? Is it possible to live in
> >such a universe, facing one's own mortality, and still find some
> >meaning in it all? If so, what meaning can be found?

"First, let's think about what's true and what's false. Then we can
worry about how we're going to deal with it."

Written by Rumpelskiltskin


--9--

"As one who is working in the biotech field and has spent a good part
of his career looking for cures of disease, I feel so helpless and
frustrated at times like these. We have technology for treating such
diseases almost in our grasp, but not quite yet. However, I am also
gravely concerned that the increasing anti-science movement in this
country, fueled in part by right wing politics, fueled in large part
by religious fundamentalism may frustrate our efforts. I posted a few
days ago that one stem cell researcher has already 'defected' to
Britain over our government's attitude on the issue. If students can't
learn modern biology, where will our future scientists, lab techs,
doctors, and nurses come from? Genetic therapy may someday provide a
cure for Hunter's disease, but not if no one learns about DNA and gene
function, because they are too busy studying six day creation."

Written by John Hachmann


--10--

"You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of myself to
myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by getting
another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other 2/3
I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."

Written by Meteorite Debris


--11--
[In response to:]

> > I would say rather say humanity... my perception is that atheism is
> > walking the same path as xianity.

"Oh, of course. There's the long history of atheist intolerance, the
atheist crusades, the atheist inquisitions, atheist bombings of
abortion clinics, famous atheist evangelists conning money from their
followers, atheists justifying second-class citizenship or worse for
sections of society based on fundamental atheist beliefs. The long
history of atheist armies over-running other nations and cultures and
offering the natives the choice of conversio or death, the history of
powerful atheist organizations blocking scientific advances because
they didn't agree with fundamental atheist beliefs. Yep, we're just
like christians, you betcha."

Written by Dotcom


--12--
[In response to:]

>>It would be easier for a man to say to a mighty mountain: "Lift yourself
>>up and cast yourself into the sea", than for a man to create any living
>>thing.

"That does not surprise me. I can say "Lift yourself up and cast
yourself into the sea" to mountains puny and mighty."

Written by Matt Silberstein


--13--

"The tragedy of the human condition is to have the desire to survive
of the limbric system rubbing against the cerebral's cortex's
knowledge that ultimately we will not. We are animals born with an
instinct to survive and with the knowledge that we will not. The
energy of this friction produces religion."

Written by Meteorite Debris


--14--

"Would like to see a church for atheists. Would there be an altar with
Nothing on it? When visitors come by and see the congregation
worshipping Nothing, they would say in surprise, "Oh, is Nothing
sacred these days?""

Written by Jeffrey Graham


--15--

"The book of God's beneath you
The man of God's above you
Salvation's pole
Is in your hole
Now wiggle your ass to save your soul"

Written by sartyr


--16--

"I ask a better question: why do most theists believe in the wrong
gods? I mean, only one religion could be right, yet none has majority,
thus a lot of people believe in made-up gods, don't they?"

Written by Daneel


--17--

"Meditation is about emptying the mind so it can think clearer.
Prayer is about filling it so it can't."

Written by Bob Dog

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Here are the rules for the Quote of the Month Contests.


RULES

1. Only atheists and agnostics may participate in the contests.

2. A quote is a valid entry for the contests if:

a. The quote is a brief piece of text;

b. The quote has recently been written in alt.atheism
(verifiable);

c. Nomination of the quote is made by an atheist or agnostic
in alt.atheism

d. Nomination of the quote is supported by at least one other
atheist or agnostic in alt.atheism;

e. The quote is not nominated by the person who wrote it in
the first place (no one is allowed to nominate him- or
herself, but a person can vote for the quote he or she
wrote.)

3. There will be two categories: 'Atheist Quote of the Month'
and 'Theist Quote of the Month'. The category for which a
quote must be nominated must be mentioned by the atheist or
agnostic who wants to nominate it.

* If a quote is miscategorized (e.g. an atheist quote is
mistakenly nominated in the Theist QotM category), the quote
will be withdrawn from the voting but may be resubmitted in
the correct category.

4. Nominations can be made until five days before the first of the
next month. If quotes are nominated after this period, they will
be considered as entries for the contest of the next month.

* When making a nomination, the word "nomination" MUST appear
somewhere in the subject line!

5. Each atheist or agnostic who visits alt.atheism has one vote to
cast for each category (two votes total).

6. Voting starts 5 days before the end of the month. During the
month, votes will be ignored. This way, all nominees will have
equal chance of winning.

7. The two winning quotes will be published in the QOTM Archive.


SUMMARY

A nomination must contain the following information:

1. The lines of the quote.

2. Who wrote it.

3. Who nominates or seconds the nomination of this quote (that's
you!)

4. Which category this nomination is for.

5. The word "nomination" MUST appear somewhere in the subject line!

Publish the nomination or support for a nomination in a designated
thread, preferably called "[T/A]QoTM Nomination for [month]." You can
also e-mail it to me (see below).


VOTING

1. In the last five days of the month you can cast your vote in both
categories.

2. Votes must either be placed in the designated thread, or emailed
to silen...@peoplepc.com.



Quotemeister Dave

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Kalle Helenius

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Sep 7, 2001, 10:50:28 AM9/7/01
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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message

<snipp>

> --10--
>
> "You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of
myself to
> myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by
getting
> another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
> first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other
2/3
> I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."
>
> Written by Meteorite Debris

My vote goes to this, but the one below is a close second. Way to
go MD!

> --13--
>
> "The tragedy of the human condition is to have the desire to
survive
> of the limbric system rubbing against the cerebral's cortex's
> knowledge that ultimately we will not. We are animals born with
an
> instinct to survive and with the knowledge that we will not. The
> energy of this friction produces religion."
>
> Written by Meteorite Debris


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Adam Marczyk

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Sep 7, 2001, 11:02:03 AM9/7/01
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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

> --2--
> [In response to:]
>
> > >Christianity at the time of Christ started out with roughly 120
believers
> > >and grew to 6 million in a few short years.
> > >Sounds authentic to me and I am proud to be a part of the largest
community
> > >in the world. [...] You atheists are a dismal number indeed
>
> "There are always much fewer wolves than sheep."
>
> Written by Mark Richardson

A lot of good ones, but this one gets my vote.

[snip]

--
And I want to conquer the world,
give all the idiots a brand new religion,
put an end to poverty, uncleanliness and toil,
promote equality in all of my decisions...
--Bad Religion, "I Want to Conquer the World"

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The.Central.Scr...@invalid.pobox.com

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Sep 7, 2001, 11:08:26 AM9/7/01
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

my vote: (sums up the insanity of xanity almost as well as stix might have)

MEow

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Sep 7, 2001, 11:16:43 AM9/7/01
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The alien which happened to be occupying the body of Dave Holloway

<silen...@peoplepc.com> on Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500 wrote:
>--13--
>
>"The tragedy of the human condition is to have the desire to survive
>of the limbric system rubbing against the cerebral's cortex's
>knowledge that ultimately we will not. We are animals born with an
>instinct to survive and with the knowledge that we will not. The
>energy of this friction produces religion."
>
>Written by Meteorite Debris
>
It was a very tough choice - but I'll go for this one.

--
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Lifelong atheist #1759. EAC - Spanker of Theists
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"No. *Real* men eat whatever they like." Chwith (AFV)

Liquid Grace

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Sep 7, 2001, 11:27:33 AM9/7/01
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"Dave Holloway" <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com...
> "You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of myself to
> myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by getting
> another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
> first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other 2/3
> I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."
>
> Written by Meteorite Debris
>

This one!

Grace

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Meteorite Debris

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Sep 7, 2001, 12:43:15 PM9/7/01
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500 Dave
Holloway<silen...@peoplepc.com> did eloquently compose:

> --14--
>
> "Would like to see a church for atheists. Would there be an altar with
> Nothing on it? When visitors come by and see the congregation
> worshipping Nothing, they would say in surprise, "Oh, is Nothing
> sacred these days?""
>
> Written by Jeffrey Graham

This one.

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Orhan Orgun

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Sep 7, 2001, 12:16:59 PM9/7/01
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Tough mon, though. 4, 9 and 11 (a lot of others are excellent
too)--can I give 1/3 of a vote to each? No? OK, let the dice decide
then: 9 it is.

9

>
>
>--9--
>
>"As one who is working in the biotech field and has spent a good part
>of his career looking for cures of disease, I feel so helpless and
>frustrated at times like these. We have technology for treating such
>diseases almost in our grasp, but not quite yet. However, I am also
>gravely concerned that the increasing anti-science movement in this
>country, fueled in part by right wing politics, fueled in large part
>by religious fundamentalism may frustrate our efforts. I posted a few
>days ago that one stem cell researcher has already 'defected' to
>Britain over our government's attitude on the issue. If students can't
>learn modern biology, where will our future scientists, lab techs,
>doctors, and nurses come from? Genetic therapy may someday provide a
>cure for Hunter's disease, but not if no one learns about DNA and gene
>function, because they are too busy studying six day creation."
>
>Written by John Hachmann
>

__________________________________________

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John Hattan

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Sep 7, 2001, 12:18:32 PM9/7/01
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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
>decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
>poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)
>
>Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for
>July/August 2001. Vote for your favorite by emailing me, or by
>responding to this thread. Votes will be accepted until midnight, 12
>September, 2001. See rules below. Questions? Comments? Insults?
>Donations? Email me.

Number 14

---
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jo...@thecodezone.com http://www.freespeech.org/shatner

Cyberia

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Sep 7, 2001, 1:30:25 PM9/7/01
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"Dave Holloway" <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com...
> --7--
>
> "Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
> close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
> and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
> Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
> single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
> voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
> best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
> scientific knowledge is go away."
>
> Written by Kronk

All were excellent quotes, tough decision, ultimately I decided that this
one
fits my current world view really well. Thanks, Kronk.

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Sep 7, 2001, 1:53:16 PM9/7/01
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Dave Holloway said...

>--4--
>
>"If his opinion is that you can continue to sin and still get into
>heaven, his opinion and heaven are both worthless. It makes heaven a
>place where hypocritical sinners go after death. The only difference
>between that and hell is that the sinners in hell aren't hypocrites."
>
>Written by Al Klein
>

My vote goes to #4.

--
Pat Kiewicz aa#1154

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(attributed to Don Marti)

The Jester

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Sep 7, 2001, 2:06:10 PM9/7/01
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In article <romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>, Dave Holloway says...

>
>Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
>decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
>poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)
>
>Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for
>July/August 2001. Vote for your favorite by emailing me, or by
>responding to this thread. Votes will be accepted until midnight, 12
>September, 2001. See rules below. Questions? Comments? Insults?
>Donations? Email me.

>--6--


>
>"The only difference between you and Linus is that Linus doesn't tell
>everyone that they'll be punished if they don't also have a blanket."
>
>Written by John Hattan

I vote for # 6. Honorable mention goes to the following:

>
>--4--
>
>"If his opinion is that you can continue to sin and still get into
>heaven, his opinion and heaven are both worthless. It makes heaven a
>place where hypocritical sinners go after death. The only difference
>between that and hell is that the sinners in hell aren't hypocrites."
>
>Written by Al Klein


-The Jester, 774

"Have I displeased you, you feckless thug?" -Josiah Bartlett


Jeff Graham

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Sep 7, 2001, 2:18:39 PM9/7/01
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> bellowed

>Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
>decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
>poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)
>
>Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for
>July/August 2001. Vote for your favorite by emailing me, or by
>responding to this thread. Votes will be accepted until midnight, 12
>September, 2001. See rules below. Questions? Comments? Insults?
>Donations? Email me.

14 (for reasons which should be obvious)

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DJ Nozem

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>--10--

>"You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of myself to
>myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by getting
>another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
>first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other 2/3
>I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."

>Written by Meteorite Debris

I vote for this one.

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Woden

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Sep 7, 2001, 3:39:07 PM9/7/01
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com>
wrote:

This one, #7 gets my vote.

>"Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
>close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
>and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
>Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
>single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
>voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
>best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
>scientific knowledge is go away."
>
>Written by Kronk
>
--

Woden

"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."

raven1

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>
>--6--
>
>"The only difference between you and Linus is that Linus doesn't tell
>everyone that they'll be punished if they don't also have a blanket."
>
>Written by John Hattan

I like this one. Short, and to the point.


Brett A. Pasternack

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Sep 7, 2001, 5:31:44 PM9/7/01
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Dave Holloway wrote:

> --17--
>
> "Meditation is about emptying the mind so it can think clearer.
> Prayer is about filling it so it can't."
>
> Written by Bob Dog

I'll vote for this one.

gardibolt

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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:<romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>...
>
> --10--
>
> "You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of myself to
> myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by getting
> another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
> first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other 2/3
> I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."
>
> Written by Meteorite Debris
>
>


#10 says it all. I vote 10.

Mark

Skeptic

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"DJ Nozem" <D...@slowbitchmail.nl> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
> <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> >--10--
>
> >"You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of myself to
> >myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by getting
> >another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
> >first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other 2/3
> >I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."
>
> >Written by Meteorite Debris
>
> I vote for this one.

Me too.

(Don't you just hate it when Skeptic agrees with you, Noze?)


Liz

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Sep 7, 2001, 7:23:44 PM9/7/01
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com>
wrote:


>


>--1--
>
>"Reality doesn't depend on what makes the best small talk.'
>
>Written by Steve Caupp


Pithy and true. I vote for #1.


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M.H. Torringjan

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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:<romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>...
>
> --5--
> [In response to:]
>
> >>Nothing false shocks me
>
> "I guess that comes with being a Christian."
>
> Written by raven1
>
>

I'm voting for this one here. (Now for the long sig! ;-)

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Kerry

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Sep 7, 2001, 8:33:29 PM9/7/01
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this one.

> --17--
>
> "Meditation is about emptying the mind so it can think clearer.
> Prayer is about filling it so it can't."
>
> Written by Bob Dog

Kerry
aa #1773

Bored With The Boring Again

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:


[===]

>--7--
>
>"Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
>close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
>and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
>Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
>single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
>voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
>best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
>scientific knowledge is go away."
>
>Written by Kronk
>


My vote.

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Mike Smith

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fire...@god.airmail.net ("Bored With The Boring Again") wrote:

(piggybacking)

=>--7--
=>"Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
=>close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
=>and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
=>Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
=>single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
=>voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
=>best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
=>scientific knowledge is go away."
=>
=>Written by Kronk

Gets my vote. Good one, Kronk!
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chib

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In article <romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>, Dave Holloway

<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Number 17

> --17--
>
> "Meditation is about emptying the mind so it can think clearer.
> Prayer is about filling it so it can't."
>
> Written by Bob Dog
>

-chib

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Bigdaddyking

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In article <romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>,
silen...@peoplepc.com says...

> Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
> decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
> poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)
>
> Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for
> July/August 2001. Vote for your favorite by emailing me, or by
> responding to this thread. Votes will be accepted until midnight, 12
> September, 2001. See rules below. Questions? Comments? Insults?
> Donations? Email me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --11--
> [In response to:]
>
> > > I would say rather say humanity... my perception is that atheism is
> > > walking the same path as xianity.
>
> "Oh, of course. There's the long history of atheist intolerance, the
> atheist crusades, the atheist inquisitions, atheist bombings of
> abortion clinics, famous atheist evangelists conning money from their
> followers, atheists justifying second-class citizenship or worse for
> sections of society based on fundamental atheist beliefs. The long
> history of atheist armies over-running other nations and cultures and
> offering the natives the choice of conversio or death, the history of
> powerful atheist organizations blocking scientific advances because
> they didn't agree with fundamental atheist beliefs. Yep, we're just
> like christians, you betcha."
>
> Written by Dotcom
>
>
>

This one get's my vote!!!


BDK

satyr

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I vote for:

Kronius

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> --7--

>
> "Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
> close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
> and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
> Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
> single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
> voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
> best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
> scientific knowledge is go away."
>
> Written by Kronk

Gets my vote.


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they are even born.

The Plasmatron

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500 Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
<snip>
They are all so good this time, but I'm just going to have to go for
#9

<snip>

> --9--

> "As one who is working in the biotech field and has spent a good part
> of his career looking for cures of disease, I feel so helpless and
> frustrated at times like these. We have technology for treating such
> diseases almost in our grasp, but not quite yet. However, I am also
> gravely concerned that the increasing anti-science movement in this
> country, fueled in part by right wing politics, fueled in large part
> by religious fundamentalism may frustrate our efforts. I posted a few
> days ago that one stem cell researcher has already 'defected' to
> Britain over our government's attitude on the issue. If students can't
> learn modern biology, where will our future scientists, lab techs,
> doctors, and nurses come from? Genetic therapy may someday provide a
> cure for Hunter's disease, but not if no one learns about DNA and gene
> function, because they are too busy studying six day creation."

> Written by John Hachmann


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Darwinian

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> --6--
>
> "The only difference between you and Linus is that Linus doesn't tell
> everyone that they'll be punished if they don't also have a blanket."
>
> Written by John Hattan

Way to go, Grand High ÜberPope!

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L L

John Hearsey

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In article <romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>,
silen...@peoplepc.com wrote

> Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
> decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
> poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)

Number two


> --2--
> [In response to:]
>
> > >Christianity at the time of Christ started out with roughly 120 believers
> > >and grew to 6 million in a few short years.
> > >Sounds authentic to me and I am proud to be a part of the largest community
> > >in the world. [...] You atheists are a dismal number indeed
>
> "There are always much fewer wolves than sheep."
>
> Written by Mark Richardson
>
>

although I liked 14 as well


> --14--
>
> "Would like to see a church for atheists. Would there be an altar with
> Nothing on it? When visitors come by and see the congregation
> worshipping Nothing, they would say in surprise, "Oh, is Nothing
> sacred these days?""
>
> Written by Jeffrey Graham
>

--
John Hearsey - aa1886


Karl E. Taylor

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> --17--

> "Meditation is about emptying the mind so it can think clearer.
> Prayer is about filling it so it can't."

> Written by Bob Dog
>
I like this one.

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Angelico

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>--1--
>
>"Reality doesn't depend on what makes the best small talk.'
>
>Written by Steve Caupp
>

There were several very good ones, but this gets my vote.

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Conrad Knauer

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I vote for #9.

CK

(I liked #3, 11 and 14 very much too though :)

Dave Holloway wrote:

> --3--
>
> "Are you willing to risk awaking from your nightmare?"
>
> Written by John Popelish

> --9--
>
> "As one who is working in the biotech field and has spent a good part
> of his career looking for cures of disease, I feel so helpless and
> frustrated at times like these. We have technology for treating such
> diseases almost in our grasp, but not quite yet. However, I am also
> gravely concerned that the increasing anti-science movement in this
> country, fueled in part by right wing politics, fueled in large part
> by religious fundamentalism may frustrate our efforts. I posted a few
> days ago that one stem cell researcher has already 'defected' to
> Britain over our government's attitude on the issue. If students can't
> learn modern biology, where will our future scientists, lab techs,
> doctors, and nurses come from? Genetic therapy may someday provide a
> cure for Hunter's disease, but not if no one learns about DNA and gene
> function, because they are too busy studying six day creation."
>
> Written by John Hachmann

> --11--


> [In response to:]
>
> > > I would say rather say humanity... my perception is that atheism is
> > > walking the same path as xianity.
>
> "Oh, of course. There's the long history of atheist intolerance, the
> atheist crusades, the atheist inquisitions, atheist bombings of
> abortion clinics, famous atheist evangelists conning money from their
> followers, atheists justifying second-class citizenship or worse for
> sections of society based on fundamental atheist beliefs. The long
> history of atheist armies over-running other nations and cultures and
> offering the natives the choice of conversio or death, the history of
> powerful atheist organizations blocking scientific advances because
> they didn't agree with fundamental atheist beliefs. Yep, we're just
> like christians, you betcha."
>
> Written by Dotcom

> --14--

Brian F. King

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I vote for:

Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>--8--
>[In response to:]
>
>> >One objection to evolution I often hear about is not scientific but
>> >philosophical. It is claimed that a universe governed by impersonal
>> >forces, without a higher power, and a life lived in such a universe,
>> >without the possibility of an afterlife, is utterly devoid of meaning.
>> >Would anyone care to answer this objection? Is it possible to live in
>> >such a universe, facing one's own mortality, and still find some
>> >meaning in it all? If so, what meaning can be found?
>
>"First, let's think about what's true and what's false. Then we can
>worry about how we're going to deal with it."
>
>Written by Rumpelskiltskin
>
>

Brian F. King: Alt.Atheist #477

Charles R Ward

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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:<romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>...
> Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
> decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
> poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)

Vote for #4.



> --4--
>
> "If his opinion is that you can continue to sin and still get into
> heaven, his opinion and heaven are both worthless. It makes heaven a
> place where hypocritical sinners go after death. The only difference
> between that and hell is that the sinners in hell aren't hypocrites."
>
> Written by Al Klein

Charles R Ward

Peter van Velzen

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"Dave Holloway" <silen...@peoplepc.com> schreef in bericht
news:romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com...

> Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
> decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
> poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)
>
> Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for
> July/August 2001. Vote for your favorite by emailing me, or by
> responding to this thread. Votes will be accepted until midnight, 12
> September, 2001. See rules below. Questions? Comments? Insults?
> Donations? Email me.

It's Nr 1 all the way, Nice and short.

Roy Thearle

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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:<romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>...
> --17--
>
> "Meditation is about emptying the mind so it can think clearer.
> Prayer is about filling it so it can't."
>
> Written by Bob Dog

Yup

Roy

Eric

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>--2--
>[In response to:]
>
>> >Christianity at the time of Christ started out with roughly 120 believers
>> >and grew to 6 million in a few short years.
>> >Sounds authentic to me and I am proud to be a part of the largest community
>> >in the world. [...] You atheists are a dismal number indeed
>
>"There are always much fewer wolves than sheep."
>
>Written by Mark Richardson

Lots of good ones, but this was the catchiest retort. It gets my
vote.


Eric

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anti-spam mail address. Remove the obvious to mail me.

"Sufficiently advanced technology is often indistinguishable
from magic." Clarke's Third Law

aa #197

Nullifidian

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

<posted and e-mailed>

>--9--
>
>"As one who is working in the biotech field and has spent a good part
>of his career looking for cures of disease, I feel so helpless and
>frustrated at times like these. We have technology for treating such
>diseases almost in our grasp, but not quite yet. However, I am also
>gravely concerned that the increasing anti-science movement in this
>country, fueled in part by right wing politics, fueled in large part
>by religious fundamentalism may frustrate our efforts. I posted a few
>days ago that one stem cell researcher has already 'defected' to
>Britain over our government's attitude on the issue. If students can't
>learn modern biology, where will our future scientists, lab techs,
>doctors, and nurses come from? Genetic therapy may someday provide a
>cure for Hunter's disease, but not if no one learns about DNA and gene
>function, because they are too busy studying six day creation."
>
>Written by John Hachmann

I cast my vote for this one. As an undergraduate biology major, with
some knowledge of creationist politics, this hits very close to home.

However, honourable mention goes to the two below. I would have
probably voted for either of them if the above quote hadn't hit home
so.

>--10--
>
>"You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of myself to
>myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by getting
>another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
>first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other 2/3
>I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."
>
>Written by Meteorite Debris
>

>--14--
>
>"Would like to see a church for atheists. Would there be an altar with
>Nothing on it? When visitors come by and see the congregation
>worshipping Nothing, they would say in surprise, "Oh, is Nothing
>sacred these days?""
>
>Written by Jeffrey Graham

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our exploring/Will be to arrive where we started/And
know the place for the first time.' - T. S. Eliot, 'Little
Gidding' from Four Quartets

Caradhras

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> --7--


>
> "Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
> close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
> and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
> Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
> single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
> voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
> best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
> scientific knowledge is go away."
>
> Written by Kronk

I vote for this one.

Matthew Furrow
a.a. #1952
mfurrow at mail dot md

Ed. Stoebenau

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:38:42 -0500, Dave Holloway
<silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>--12--
>[In response to:]
>
>>>It would be easier for a man to say to a mighty mountain: "Lift yourself
>>>up and cast yourself into the sea", than for a man to create any living
>>>thing.
>
>"That does not surprise me. I can say "Lift yourself up and cast
>yourself into the sea" to mountains puny and mighty."
>
>Written by Matt Silberstein

This one.


--
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a #143

Martin Crisp

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On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 0:38:42 +1000 the muse struck Dave Holloway, who
wrote (in message <romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>):

> --10--
>
> "You're right Georganne. If I was going to sacrifice 1/3 of myself to
> myself in a blood sacrifice because I was angry and do it by getting
> another 1/3 of myself to impregnate a virgin to give birth to the
> first 1/3 of myself who would then teach everyone about the other 2/3
> I too would need an interminal line of bullocks to precede it."
>
> Written by Meteorite Debris

Thought it was good when I first saw it, still like it.


Have Fun
Martin
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Daneel

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Dave Holloway wrote:
<snip>


> --3--
>
> "Are you willing to risk awaking from your nightmare?"
>
> Written by John Popelish

Tough, tough, tough choice!

I like #1, #3, #11, # 13, #14 and #17 equally, so I'll go with
my nomination: #3!


see you

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Dave Holloway <silen...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:<romhptojv6vj24gft...@4ax.com>...
> Since the TQOTM nominations for July were pretty much nonexistent, I
> decided to combine the two months again. And if that sounds like a
> poor excuse, well, I have a fiancee . . . ;o)
>
> Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for
> July/August 2001. Vote for your favorite by emailing me, or by
> responding to this thread. Votes will be accepted until midnight, 12
> September, 2001. See rules below. Questions? Comments? Insults?
> Donations? Email me.

This one.

> --7--
>
> "Never going to happen. Christianity evaporates whenever it gets too
> close to science. Science has only one thing to inform Christianity,
> and that is that it is just another myth. And in what way can
> Christianity inform science? Simple. It can't. It doesn't have a
> single thing to offer. In that regard, it is every bit as useless as
> voodoo, taro, astrology, rune casting, and the Magic 8 Ball. The very
> best thing Christianity can do to contribute to the advancement of
> scientific knowledge is go away."
>
> Written by Kronk


-PF

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