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HVAC
Oct 23, 2012, 8:24:55 AM10/23/12
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On 10/22/2012 7:09 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> We are in the center of a rotating univese.and looking in every
> direction gives rotation. Its effect is slight because of its size.
"Looking in every direction gives rotation"?
Please explain that. Thx.
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>
> We are in the center of a rotating univese.and looking in every
> direction gives rotation. Its effect is slight because of its size.
"Looking in every direction gives rotation"?
Please explain that. Thx.
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo .. 变亮
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HVAC
Oct 23, 2012, 8:28:26 AM10/23/12
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On 10/22/2012 8:34 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> A galaxy has all the right stuff to be a rotating universe. All in it
> rotates. Black holes rotate. In the micro realm its called spin. It
> would not be an electron if it did not spin. It would ot be a univese
> if it did not rotate.
Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
universe is rotating?
> spin.Electron's are created in pairs with opposite spin. I even know
> why this has to be reality.I even know why they do not cancel each
> other out. I know how everything works. How they came to be. How the
> BB was created,and not destroyed in its first trillion of a second.
> Why it has to inflate. Why it has to rotate. I know its final 10
> trillion years. Why do I know all this. I will post the answer by
> Sunday TreBert
Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
universe is rotating?
>
> A galaxy has all the right stuff to be a rotating universe. All in it
> rotates. Black holes rotate. In the micro realm its called spin. It
> would not be an electron if it did not spin. It would ot be a univese
> if it did not rotate.
Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
universe is rotating?
> spin.Electron's are created in pairs with opposite spin. I even know
> why this has to be reality.I even know why they do not cancel each
> other out. I know how everything works. How they came to be. How the
> BB was created,and not destroyed in its first trillion of a second.
> Why it has to inflate. Why it has to rotate. I know its final 10
> trillion years. Why do I know all this. I will post the answer by
> Sunday TreBert
Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
universe is rotating?
HVAC
Oct 23, 2012, 10:04:45 AM10/23/12
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On 10/23/2012 8:33 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>> Are you suggesting that the core or source of our universe is still an
>> ongoing event that's feeding or spewing out aether and molecular stuff?
>
> YES TeBet
OK great. Now...Where exactly is the creamy center of the universe?
In which direction?
Note: This will be a stunning announcement in the field of astrophysics
and cosmology. If you can say where this is, I
guarantee a Nobel for you.
I'll wait right here for your answer.
>
>> Are you suggesting that the core or source of our universe is still an
>> ongoing event that's feeding or spewing out aether and molecular stuff?
>
> YES TeBet
OK great. Now...Where exactly is the creamy center of the universe?
In which direction?
Note: This will be a stunning announcement in the field of astrophysics
and cosmology. If you can say where this is, I
guarantee a Nobel for you.
I'll wait right here for your answer.
HVAC
Oct 23, 2012, 2:56:22 PM10/23/12
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On 10/22/2012 7:09 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
> We are in the center of a rotating univese.and looking in every
> direction gives rotation. Its effect is slight because of its size. We
>
> We are in the center of a rotating univese.and looking in every
> do know its inflating,and that could be from r otation. We have
> theoryies that go well with an inflating univese. Einstein was
> right,and so am I Static means no rotation,and static it can not be.
> TeBet
What a stinking load of shit.
For you kids at home, pay no attention to Bert. He is 100% wrong once
again. Since there is no external reference point, there is nothing to
even measure regarding 'rotation' of the universe. It is complete and
utter nonsense.
You kids run along now and have a fantastic day! :-)
Smiler
Oct 23, 2012, 8:19:18 PM10/23/12
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:04:45 -0400, HVAC wrote:
> On 10/23/2012 8:33 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>>> Are you suggesting that the core or source of our universe is still an
>>> ongoing event that's feeding or spewing out aether and molecular stuff?
>>
>> YES TeBet
>
>
> OK great. Now...Where exactly is the creamy center of the universe?
>
> In which direction?
<Points finger upward> In _that_ direction!
> On 10/23/2012 8:33 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>>> Are you suggesting that the core or source of our universe is still an
>>> ongoing event that's feeding or spewing out aether and molecular stuff?
>>
>> YES TeBet
>
>
> OK great. Now...Where exactly is the creamy center of the universe?
>
> In which direction?
>
> Note: This will be a stunning announcement in the field of astrophysics
> and cosmology. If you can say where this is, I guarantee a Nobel for you.
>
>
--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.
bja...@iwaynet.net
Oct 23, 2012, 11:53:08 PM10/23/12
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On 10/23/2012 2:56 PM, HVAC wrote:
> On 10/22/2012 7:09 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>> We are in the center of a rotating univese.and looking in every
>> direction gives rotation. Its effect is slight because of its size. We
>> do know its inflating,and that could be from r otation. We have
>> theoryies that go well with an inflating univese. Einstein was
>> right,and so am I Static means no rotation,and static it can not be.
>> TeBet
>
>
> What a stinking load of shit.
>
> For you kids at home, pay no attention to Bert. He is 100% wrong once
> again. Since there is no external reference point, there is nothing to
> even measure regarding 'rotation' of the universe. It is complete and
> utter nonsense.
>
>
> You kids run along now and have a fantastic day! :-)
HVAC, you "low wit". G=EMC^2 has an IQ many times yours even though he's
> On 10/22/2012 7:09 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>> We are in the center of a rotating univese.and looking in every
>> direction gives rotation. Its effect is slight because of its size. We
>> do know its inflating,and that could be from r otation. We have
>> theoryies that go well with an inflating univese. Einstein was
>> right,and so am I Static means no rotation,and static it can not be.
>> TeBet
>
>
> What a stinking load of shit.
>
> For you kids at home, pay no attention to Bert. He is 100% wrong once
> again. Since there is no external reference point, there is nothing to
> even measure regarding 'rotation' of the universe. It is complete and
> utter nonsense.
>
>
> You kids run along now and have a fantastic day! :-)
never been to school. But no matter. I am many times higher than you all
of you. I know that EVERY point in universe is it center! Therefore, you
can pick any point and every other point becomes references.
Link provided by Wormley. (The only guy with an IQ even higher than mine!)
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html
[Luckily HVAC does not read links nor take orders from inferiors
(everyone else in the universe) so we can expect no meaningful rebuttal
from him.]
Painius
Oct 24, 2012, 1:07:47 AM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 01:19:18 +0100, Smiler <Youm...@JoeKing.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:04:45 -0400, HVAC wrote:
>
>> On 10/23/2012 8:33 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting that the core or source of our universe is still an
>>>> ongoing event that's feeding or spewing out aether and molecular stuff?
>>>
>>> YES TeBet
>>
>>
>> OK great. Now...Where exactly is the creamy center of the universe?
>>
>> In which direction?
>
><Points finger upward> In _that_ direction!
>
>>
>> Note: This will be a stunning announcement in the field of astrophysics
>> and cosmology. If you can say where this is, I guarantee a Nobel for you.
>>
>>
>
>Damn! I'll have to wait another year before I get it :-)
Whatever you do, take real good care of yourself and DON'T DIE!
They won't give you the Nobel prize posthumously.
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan."
wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:04:45 -0400, HVAC wrote:
>
>> On 10/23/2012 8:33 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting that the core or source of our universe is still an
>>>> ongoing event that's feeding or spewing out aether and molecular stuff?
>>>
>>> YES TeBet
>>
>>
>> OK great. Now...Where exactly is the creamy center of the universe?
>>
>> In which direction?
>
><Points finger upward> In _that_ direction!
>
>>
>> Note: This will be a stunning announcement in the field of astrophysics
>> and cosmology. If you can say where this is, I guarantee a Nobel for you.
>>
>>
>
>Damn! I'll have to wait another year before I get it :-)
They won't give you the Nobel prize posthumously.
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan."
Painius
Oct 24, 2012, 1:17:54 AM10/24/12
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:28:26 -0400, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 10/22/2012 8:34 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>> A galaxy has all the right stuff to be a rotating universe. All in it
>> rotates. Black holes rotate. In the micro realm its called spin. It
>> would not be an electron if it did not spin. It would ot be a univese
>> if it did not rotate.
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
>
>> spin.Electron's are created in pairs with opposite spin. I even know
>> why this has to be reality.I even know why they do not cancel each
>> other out. I know how everything works. How they came to be. How the
>> BB was created,and not destroyed in its first trillion of a second.
>> Why it has to inflate. Why it has to rotate. I know its final 10
>> trillion years. Why do I know all this. I will post the answer by
>> Sunday TreBert
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>On 10/22/2012 8:34 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>>
>> A galaxy has all the right stuff to be a rotating universe. All in it
>> rotates. Black holes rotate. In the micro realm its called spin. It
>> would not be an electron if it did not spin. It would ot be a univese
>> if it did not rotate.
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
>
>> spin.Electron's are created in pairs with opposite spin. I even know
>> why this has to be reality.I even know why they do not cancel each
>> other out. I know how everything works. How they came to be. How the
>> BB was created,and not destroyed in its first trillion of a second.
>> Why it has to inflate. Why it has to rotate. I know its final 10
>> trillion years. Why do I know all this. I will post the answer by
>> Sunday TreBert
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
Universe also rotates.
Everything spins, to include your quantum caput!
LMBO !
HVAC
Oct 24, 2012, 7:16:37 AM10/24/12
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On 10/23/2012 11:53 PM, bja...@teranews.com wrote:
>
>> What a stinking load of shit.
>>
>> For you kids at home, pay no attention to Bert. He is 100% wrong once
>> again. Since there is no external reference point, there is nothing to
>> even measure regarding 'rotation' of the universe. It is complete and
>> utter nonsense.
>>
>>
>> You kids run along now and have a fantastic day! :-)
>
> HVAC, you "low wit". G=EMC^2 has an IQ many times yours even though he's
> never been to school. But no matter. I am many times higher than you all
> of you. I know that EVERY point in universe is it center! Therefore, you
> can pick any point and every other point becomes references.
Every point in the universe IS the center. However, since there is no
>
>> What a stinking load of shit.
>>
>> For you kids at home, pay no attention to Bert. He is 100% wrong once
>> again. Since there is no external reference point, there is nothing to
>> even measure regarding 'rotation' of the universe. It is complete and
>> utter nonsense.
>>
>>
>> You kids run along now and have a fantastic day! :-)
>
> HVAC, you "low wit". G=EMC^2 has an IQ many times yours even though he's
> never been to school. But no matter. I am many times higher than you all
> of you. I know that EVERY point in universe is it center! Therefore, you
> can pick any point and every other point becomes references.
external reference point, there is nothing to suggest it is rotating.
> Link provided by Wormley. (The only guy with an IQ even higher than mine!)
>
> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html
>
> [Luckily HVAC does not read links nor take orders from inferiors
> (everyone else in the universe) so we can expect no meaningful rebuttal
> from him.]
HVAC
Oct 24, 2012, 7:31:04 AM10/24/12
to
On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>
>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>> universe is rotating?
>
> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
> Universe also rotates.
Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>
>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>> universe is rotating?
>
> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
> Universe also rotates.
bja...@iwaynet.net
Oct 24, 2012, 1:13:32 PM10/24/12
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On 10/24/2012 7:16 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 10/23/2012 11:53 PM, bja...@teranews.com wrote:
>>
>>> What a stinking load of shit.
>>>
>>> For you kids at home, pay no attention to Bert. He is 100% wrong once
>>> again. Since there is no external reference point, there is nothing to
>>> even measure regarding 'rotation' of the universe. It is complete and
>>> utter nonsense.
>>>
>>>
>>> You kids run along now and have a fantastic day! :-)
>>
>> HVAC, you "low wit". G=EMC^2 has an IQ many times yours even though he's
>> never been to school. But no matter. I am many times higher than you all
>> of you. I know that EVERY point in universe is it center! Therefore, you
>> can pick any point and every other point becomes references.
>
>
> Every point in the universe IS the center. However, since there is no
> external reference point, there is nothing to suggest it is rotating.
>
>
>> Link provided by Wormley. (The only guy with an IQ even higher than
>> mine!)
>>
>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html
>>
>> [Luckily HVAC does not read links nor take orders from inferiors
>> (everyone else in the universe) so we can expect no meaningful rebuttal
>> from him.]
>
>
> Never question me.
See?
> On 10/23/2012 11:53 PM, bja...@teranews.com wrote:
>>
>>> What a stinking load of shit.
>>>
>>> For you kids at home, pay no attention to Bert. He is 100% wrong once
>>> again. Since there is no external reference point, there is nothing to
>>> even measure regarding 'rotation' of the universe. It is complete and
>>> utter nonsense.
>>>
>>>
>>> You kids run along now and have a fantastic day! :-)
>>
>> HVAC, you "low wit". G=EMC^2 has an IQ many times yours even though he's
>> never been to school. But no matter. I am many times higher than you all
>> of you. I know that EVERY point in universe is it center! Therefore, you
>> can pick any point and every other point becomes references.
>
>
> Every point in the universe IS the center. However, since there is no
> external reference point, there is nothing to suggest it is rotating.
>
>
>> Link provided by Wormley. (The only guy with an IQ even higher than
>> mine!)
>>
>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html
>>
>> [Luckily HVAC does not read links nor take orders from inferiors
>> (everyone else in the universe) so we can expect no meaningful rebuttal
>> from him.]
>
>
> Never question me.
HVAC
Oct 24, 2012, 2:18:44 PM10/24/12
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G=EMC^2
Oct 24, 2012, 5:44:26 PM10/24/12
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deserve 5. I'm 85 and only have 32 more years. Life is not fair. I
relate this to Einstein not getting a Nobel for GR. TreBert
G=EMC^2
Oct 24, 2012, 6:04:38 PM10/24/12
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On Oct 23, 8:19 pm, Smiler <Youmus...@JoeKing.com> wrote:
white out snow storm Where is its center? Where is its edges,? How
fast is it rotating? I have been in 6 such snow storms. I did not know
which way to go,so I just sat them out. I'm sitting here in the
universe for 85 years. The universe created me (humankind) so it could
see itself. I have 20X20 What I can not see(dark matter) I have the
wit to realize its out there. Imperial thinkers say 96% of the
universe is missing. I know its 99.999999999 TreBert
HVAC
Oct 24, 2012, 6:46:21 PM10/24/12
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On 10/24/2012 5:44 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>
> I have waited 62 years for my first Nobel,and still Iwait. I now
> deserve 5. I'm 85 and only have 32 more years. Life is not fair.
Boo-Fucking-Hoo
>
>
> I have waited 62 years for my first Nobel,and still Iwait. I now
> deserve 5. I'm 85 and only have 32 more years. Life is not fair.
HVAC
Oct 24, 2012, 6:48:06 PM10/24/12
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On 10/24/2012 6:04 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>
> Creamy center of the universe is tricky. I relate it to being in a
> white out snow storm Where is its center? Where is its edges,? How
> fast is it rotating? I have been in 6 such snow storms. I did not know
> which way to go,so I just sat them out.
Sometimes failure isn't always an option.
>
>
> Creamy center of the universe is tricky. I relate it to being in a
> white out snow storm Where is its center? Where is its edges,? How
> fast is it rotating? I have been in 6 such snow storms. I did not know
> which way to go,so I just sat them out.
bja...@iwaynet.net
Oct 24, 2012, 11:58:35 PM10/24/12
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On 10/24/2012 5:44 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
> I have waited 62 years for my first Nobel,and still Iwait. I now
> deserve 5. I'm 85 and only have 32 more years. Life is not fair. I
> relate this to Einstein not getting a Nobel for GR. TreBert
You are smarter than Einstein so you deserve it more that he does.
> deserve 5. I'm 85 and only have 32 more years. Life is not fair. I
> relate this to Einstein not getting a Nobel for GR. TreBert
Painius
Oct 30, 2012, 1:44:06 AM10/30/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:23:00 -0400, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 10/24/2012 1:15 PM, bja...@teranews.com wrote:
>>
>>> Please cite ANY example of Bert being correct...Ever.
>>
>> That is beside the point! Even if he WERE correct, you'd still nosedive
>> back into the box!
>
>As I previously pointed out...Before you can think outside the box,
>first you must know what's in the box already.
How would you know anything at all about it? You have never once
thought outside the box. So how would you know?
>This 'ready, fire, aim' mentality is ridiculous.
It only seems that way to you. To me, it's assuredly "ready, aim,
fire". What seems transposed to you is simply our way of aiming our
imaginations and firing them at mainstream ideas that might have other
and better solutions. What sounds "kooky" to you is just the
imaginations of people you will never understand because you don't
take any time to really get to know them.
You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
>On 10/24/2012 1:15 PM, bja...@teranews.com wrote:
>>
>>> Please cite ANY example of Bert being correct...Ever.
>>
>> That is beside the point! Even if he WERE correct, you'd still nosedive
>> back into the box!
>
>As I previously pointed out...Before you can think outside the box,
>first you must know what's in the box already.
How would you know anything at all about it? You have never once
thought outside the box. So how would you know?
>This 'ready, fire, aim' mentality is ridiculous.
It only seems that way to you. To me, it's assuredly "ready, aim,
fire". What seems transposed to you is simply our way of aiming our
imaginations and firing them at mainstream ideas that might have other
and better solutions. What sounds "kooky" to you is just the
imaginations of people you will never understand because you don't
take any time to really get to know them.
You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
Painius
Oct 30, 2012, 1:54:19 AM10/30/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0400, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>> Universe also rotates.
>
>Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>> Universe also rotates.
>
>Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 6:39:35 AM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 1:54 AM, Painius wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0400, HVAC<hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>>> universe is rotating?
>>>
>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>>> Universe also rotates.
>>
>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>
> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
universe is rotating?
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0400, HVAC<hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>>> universe is rotating?
>>>
>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>>> Universe also rotates.
>>
>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>
> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
universe is rotating?
Brad Guth
Oct 30, 2012, 9:19:32 AM10/30/12
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On Oct 29, 10:44 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:23:00 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
at least that's what his boss Hitler used to think, and also what all
of his boss replacements required of their brown-nosed minions to
think.
When Harlow plays with his poop is when he gets the most excited,
especially when he gets to topic/author stalk and bash anyone for
pondering any notion(s) that puts the history of physics and science
at any risk of getting revised. Harlow would have made a terrific
Pope, or an even better Usenet/newsgroup contributor such as Warhol,
because revising anything (especially for the better) is simply not an
option.
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:23:00 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >On 10/24/2012 1:15 PM, bjac...@teranews.com wrote:
>
> >>> Please cite ANY example of Bert being correct...Ever.
>
> >> That is beside the point! Even if he WERE correct, you'd still nosedive
> >> back into the box!
>
> >As I previously pointed out...Before you can think outside the box,
> >first you must know what's in the box already.
>
> How would you know anything at all about it? You have never once
> thought outside the box. So how would you know?
>
> >This 'ready, fire, aim' mentality is ridiculous.
>
> It only seems that way to you. To me, it's assuredly "ready, aim,
> fire". What seems transposed to you is simply our way of aiming our
> imaginations and firing them at mainstream ideas that might have other
> and better solutions. What sounds "kooky" to you is just the
> imaginations of people you will never understand because you don't
> take any time to really get to know them.
>
> You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
> theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
>
> >>> Please cite ANY example of Bert being correct...Ever.
>
> >> That is beside the point! Even if he WERE correct, you'd still nosedive
> >> back into the box!
>
> >As I previously pointed out...Before you can think outside the box,
> >first you must know what's in the box already.
>
> How would you know anything at all about it? You have never once
> thought outside the box. So how would you know?
>
> >This 'ready, fire, aim' mentality is ridiculous.
>
> It only seems that way to you. To me, it's assuredly "ready, aim,
> fire". What seems transposed to you is simply our way of aiming our
> imaginations and firing them at mainstream ideas that might have other
> and better solutions. What sounds "kooky" to you is just the
> imaginations of people you will never understand because you don't
> take any time to really get to know them.
>
> You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
> theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
Harlow knows absolutely everything he was ever indoctrinated to know,
at least that's what his boss Hitler used to think, and also what all
of his boss replacements required of their brown-nosed minions to
think.
When Harlow plays with his poop is when he gets the most excited,
especially when he gets to topic/author stalk and bash anyone for
pondering any notion(s) that puts the history of physics and science
at any risk of getting revised. Harlow would have made a terrific
Pope, or an even better Usenet/newsgroup contributor such as Warhol,
because revising anything (especially for the better) is simply not an
option.
HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 9:23:53 AM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 9:19 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> Harlow knows absolutely everything he was ever indoctrinated to know,
> at least that's what his boss Hitler used to think, and also what all
> of his boss replacements required of their brown-nosed minions to
> think.
>
> When Harlow plays with his poop is when he gets the most excited,
Again with the bizarre fecal fetish. What's up w/ that, Goth?
>
> Harlow knows absolutely everything he was ever indoctrinated to know,
> at least that's what his boss Hitler used to think, and also what all
> of his boss replacements required of their brown-nosed minions to
> think.
>
> When Harlow plays with his poop is when he gets the most excited,
> especially when he gets to topic/author stalk and bash anyone for
> pondering any notion(s) that puts the history of physics and science
> at any risk of getting revised.
> Harlow would have made a terrific
> Pope, or an even better Usenet/newsgroup contributor such as Warhol,
> because revising anything (especially for the better) is simply not an
> option.
Brad Guth
Oct 30, 2012, 9:23:57 AM10/30/12
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On Oct 29, 10:54 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
jokes all the time, as well as toying with us and other creations.
How is this not the same as what Harlow does all the time?
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>
> >>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
> >>> universe is rotating?
>
> >> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
> >> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
> >> Universe also rotates.
>
> >Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>
> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
> >On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>
> >>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
> >>> universe is rotating?
>
> >> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
> >> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
> >> Universe also rotates.
>
> >Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>
> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
Perhaps Harlow is God. After all, this God likes to play practical
jokes all the time, as well as toying with us and other creations.
How is this not the same as what Harlow does all the time?
HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 9:35:52 AM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 9:23 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>>>> Universe also rotates.
>>
>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>
>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>>
>
>
> Perhaps Harlow is God.
>
>>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>>>> Universe also rotates.
>>
>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>
>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>>
>
>
Very good, Goth....You're catching on.
> After all, this God likes to play practical
> jokes all the time, as well as toying with us and other creations.
> How is this not the same as what Harlow does all the time?
G=EMC^2
Oct 30, 2012, 2:48:02 PM10/30/12
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On Oct 30, 1:44 am, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:23:00 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
intrensic TeBet
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:23:00 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >On 10/24/2012 1:15 PM, bjac...@teranews.com wrote:
>
> >>> Please cite ANY example of Bert being correct...Ever.
>
> >> That is beside the point! Even if he WERE correct, you'd still nosedive
> >> back into the box!
>
> >As I previously pointed out...Before you can think outside the box,
> >first you must know what's in the box already.
>
> How would you know anything at all about it? You have never once
> thought outside the box. So how would you know?
>
> >This 'ready, fire, aim' mentality is ridiculous.
>
> It only seems that way to you. To me, it's assuredly "ready, aim,
> fire". What seems transposed to you is simply our way of aiming our
> imaginations and firing them at mainstream ideas that might have other
> and better solutions. What sounds "kooky" to you is just the
> imaginations of people you will never understand because you don't
> take any time to really get to know them.
>
> You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
> theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
>
> >>> Please cite ANY example of Bert being correct...Ever.
>
> >> That is beside the point! Even if he WERE correct, you'd still nosedive
> >> back into the box!
>
> >As I previously pointed out...Before you can think outside the box,
> >first you must know what's in the box already.
>
> How would you know anything at all about it? You have never once
> thought outside the box. So how would you know?
>
> >This 'ready, fire, aim' mentality is ridiculous.
>
> It only seems that way to you. To me, it's assuredly "ready, aim,
> fire". What seems transposed to you is simply our way of aiming our
> imaginations and firing them at mainstream ideas that might have other
> and better solutions. What sounds "kooky" to you is just the
> imaginations of people you will never understand because you don't
> take any time to really get to know them.
>
> You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
> theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
Universes both spin and rotate. Electrons both spin and rotate. Its
intrensic TeBet
Painius
Oct 30, 2012, 3:04:07 PM10/30/12
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:23:53 -0400, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 10/30/2012 9:19 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>> . . .
>On 10/30/2012 9:19 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>> Harlow would have made a terrific
>> Pope, or an even better Usenet/newsgroup contributor such as Warhol,
>> because revising anything (especially for the better) is simply not an
>> option.
>
>
>I saw to it that Warhole was removed from here.
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
Brad Guth
Oct 30, 2012, 3:08:51 PM10/30/12
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visible universe has been moving further away, at least as of several
billion years ago, though having no objective way of telling what it's
currently doing.
Painius
Oct 30, 2012, 3:11:23 PM10/30/12
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 06:39:35 -0400, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>On 10/30/2012 1:54 AM, Painius wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0400, HVAC<hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>>>> universe is rotating?
>>>>
>>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>>>> Universe also rotates.
>>>
>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>
>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
Inference. Look it up and learn something for a change, Harlow.
>On 10/30/2012 1:54 AM, Painius wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0400, HVAC<hv...@physisist.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>>>> universe is rotating?
>>>>
>>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
>>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
>>>> Universe also rotates.
>>>
>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>
>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
Painius
Oct 30, 2012, 3:19:11 PM10/30/12
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pathetic little loserboi. The jokes he plays reveal his lack of
character. He found out long ago that when he invokes gods and
religion in newsgroups, people will tend to fear him. Some people,
out of fear, will even play the role of friend to him, just to incur
his favor. Secretly they fear him.
Several posters in alt.atheism are a case in-point. They finally
figured out that Harlow is out trolling for hollers, so they stopped
posting.
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
Brad Guth
Oct 30, 2012, 3:28:47 PM10/30/12
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On Oct 30, 12:11 pm, Painius <starswir...@aol.com> wrote:
being orbited by something.
There'd have to be a good thousand billion ly between universes of
1e56 if their enormous gravity influence were not to significantly
interact upon either universe.
http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemical/gravitational.htm
9.4605e27 m = 7.4524e+45 (Newtons)
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 06:39:35 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net> wrote:
> >On 10/30/2012 1:54 AM, Painius wrote:
> >On 10/30/2012 1:54 AM, Painius wrote:
> >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:31:04 -0400, HVAC<h...@physisist.net> wrote:
>
> >>> On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>
> >>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
> >>>>> universe is rotating?
>
> >>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
> >>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
> >>>> Universe also rotates.
>
> >>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>
> >> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
> >Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
> >universe is rotating?
>
> Inference. Look it up and learn something for a change, Harlow.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
>
> >>> On 10/24/2012 1:17 AM, Painius wrote:
>
> >>>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
> >>>>> universe is rotating?
>
> >>>> Aren't you listening? Do you still have problems reading with
> >>>> understanding? Everything rotates, so by logical inference, the
> >>>> Universe also rotates.
>
> >>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>
> >> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>
> >Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
> >universe is rotating?
>
> Inference. Look it up and learn something for a change, Harlow.
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
I can't imagine what in our universe isn't in orbit of something or
being orbited by something.
There'd have to be a good thousand billion ly between universes of
1e56 if their enormous gravity influence were not to significantly
interact upon either universe.
http://www.calculatoredge.com/chemical/gravitational.htm
9.4605e27 m = 7.4524e+45 (Newtons)
HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 3:53:07 PM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 2:48 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>> You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
>> theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
>> You're always too busy putting on a show to actually be serious about
>> theoretical, hypothetical and postulatory science.
>>
>> --
>>
>
> Universes both spin and rotate. Electrons both spin and rotate. Its
> intrensic TeBet
LOL
> intrensic TeBet
HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 4:01:24 PM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 3:11 PM, Painius wrote:
>
>>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>>
>>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>>
>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>> universe is rotating?
>
> Inference. Look it up and learn something for a change, Harlow.
Hahaha! You're funny.
>
>>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>>
>>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>>
>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>> universe is rotating?
>
> Inference. Look it up and learn something for a change, Harlow.
Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
universe is rotating?
Brad Guth
Oct 30, 2012, 4:02:45 PM10/30/12
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are doing all they can muster in order to keep K12s from ever reading
or much less interacting with open topics that could alter history and
the future at the same time.
In any normal private or public funded classroom environment, the
likes of Harlow would be hauled away and put in isolated detention,
and kept there for as long as it takes.
HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 4:06:18 PM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 3:19 PM, Painius wrote:
>
>>
>> Perhaps Harlow is God. After all, this God likes to play practical
>> jokes all the time, as well as toying with us and other creations.
>> How is this not the same as what Harlow does all the time?
>
> Harlow does appear to have a "God complex", but that only makes him a
> pathetic little loserboi. The jokes he plays reveal his lack of
> character. He found out long ago that when he invokes gods and
> religion in newsgroups, people will tend to fear him. Some people,
> out of fear, will even play the role of friend to him, just to incur
> his favor. Secretly they fear him.
LOL! You are too funny! You're afraid of me? BWAhahahaha!
>
>>
>> Perhaps Harlow is God. After all, this God likes to play practical
>> jokes all the time, as well as toying with us and other creations.
>> How is this not the same as what Harlow does all the time?
>
> Harlow does appear to have a "God complex", but that only makes him a
> pathetic little loserboi. The jokes he plays reveal his lack of
> character. He found out long ago that when he invokes gods and
> religion in newsgroups, people will tend to fear him. Some people,
> out of fear, will even play the role of friend to him, just to incur
> his favor. Secretly they fear him.
> Several posters in alt.atheism are a case in-point. They finally
> figured out that Harlow is out trolling for hollers, so they stopped
> posting.
names either. Shocking!
Bill Snyder
Oct 30, 2012, 4:36:39 PM10/30/12
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:01:24 -0400, HVAC <hv...@physisist.net>
wrote:
>On 10/30/2012 3:11 PM, Painius wrote:
>>
>>>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>>>
>>>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Inference. Look it up and learn something for a change, Harlow.
>
>
>
>Hahaha! You're funny.
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
Can he "infer" whether it's going CW or CCW?
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
wrote:
>On 10/30/2012 3:11 PM, Painius wrote:
>>
>>>>> Is this somehow tied into your belief in god?
>>>>
>>>> Since I haven't yet made a choice on that matter, then not likely.
>>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Inference. Look it up and learn something for a change, Harlow.
>
>
>
>Hahaha! You're funny.
>
>Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>universe is rotating?
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
Brad Guth
Oct 30, 2012, 4:58:44 PM10/30/12
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On Oct 30, 1:36 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:01:24 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net>
You mean like the vortex of flatulence that always surrouns the two of
you fuzzy guys?
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:01:24 -0400, HVAC <h...@physisist.net>
you fuzzy guys?
Bill Snyder
Oct 30, 2012, 5:01:51 PM10/30/12
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HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 5:54:45 PM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 4:58 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>>
>>> Hahaha! You're funny.
>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Can he "infer" whether it's going CW or CCW?
>>
>> --
>> Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
>
> You mean like the vortex of flatulence that always surrouns the two of
> you fuzzy guys?
There goes Goth with his macabre fecal-fetish.
>
>>
>>> Hahaha! You're funny.
>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Can he "infer" whether it's going CW or CCW?
>>
>> --
>> Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
>
> You mean like the vortex of flatulence that always surrouns the two of
> you fuzzy guys?
HVAC
Oct 30, 2012, 5:58:24 PM10/30/12
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On 10/30/2012 4:02 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>>
>> Several posters in alt.atheism are a case in-point. They finally
>> figured out that Harlow is out trolling for hollers, so they stopped
>> posting.
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
>>
>> Several posters in alt.atheism are a case in-point. They finally
>> figured out that Harlow is out trolling for hollers, so they stopped
>> posting.
>>
>> --
>>
>
> They key issue here is that Harlow and others of their mainstream kind
> are doing all they can muster in order to keep K12s from ever reading
> or much less interacting with open topics that could alter history and
> the future at the same time.
>
> In any normal private or public funded classroom environment, the
> likes of Harlow would be hauled away and put in isolated detention,
> and kept there for as long as it takes.
Sounds like Kamp Goth, with me as prisoner and you as warden, would be
> are doing all they can muster in order to keep K12s from ever reading
> or much less interacting with open topics that could alter history and
> the future at the same time.
>
> In any normal private or public funded classroom environment, the
> likes of Harlow would be hauled away and put in isolated detention,
> and kept there for as long as it takes.
the fulfillment of a lifelong dream, Goth.
If you could mix in some freaky, fecal-fetish stuff, it would be the
dream of a lifetime for you.
Brad Guth
Oct 30, 2012, 6:17:17 PM10/30/12
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Bill Snyder
Oct 30, 2012, 7:20:25 PM10/30/12
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getting someone who speaks English to translate it for you.
Painius
Oct 31, 2012, 4:06:09 AM10/31/12
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:36:39 -0500, Bill Snyder <bsn...@airmail.net>
wrote:
Now that would call for a reference point that none are privy to, so I
would imagine that you are just kiddingly blowing smoke up my ass.
You make such cute "snyde" remarks! lol
"Habits are chains, too weak to be felt, too strong to be broken."
wrote:
would imagine that you are just kiddingly blowing smoke up my ass.
You make such cute "snyde" remarks! lol
"Habits are chains, too weak to be felt, too strong to be broken."
HVAC
Oct 31, 2012, 8:59:29 AM10/31/12
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On 10/31/2012 4:00 AM, Painius wrote:
>
>> So why again do 99% of all theorists adhere to the big bang theory?
>
> I'm sure it's less than 99%. Can you back that up?
Absolutely.
> "Most" astronomers adhere to the Big Bang "hypothesis". Yes, I do
> think this is an incorrect idea. It most definitely would *not* take
> "all new physics" to refute the Big Bang. All it would take is some
> young, newly papered scientist to show how all of the existing
> evidence can be used to support any of a number of viable models of
> the Universe - and some of those models *don't* include fairytale
> beginnings.
So tell me again...Why do you NOT believe in the big bang?
(Besides your gut feeling and desire to be 'cutting edge')
> If you were *really* a theoretical astrophysicist
LOL
> then you would be
> one of those who are out there on the fringe,
LOL
> who wonder about how
> that first singularity got there and what made it begin to expand, who
> theorize about colliding Universe branes and wandering Universes that
> may have sparked the beginning of our Universe.
Trash. Thought up by those shilling for their next book and/or pop-sci
TV show that you kooks love so much.
> But no - you're just here to try to "win us over" to the mainstream
> and to call us kooks.
That's because I care about the truth.
> Some of us used to be on a kook list made by
> Art Deco, which he uploaded to the Internet, but it's been removed and
> can't be found anywhere anymore.
This 'Art Deco' guys seems nice. I vaguely remember the name.
I love how you still feel hurt by him listing you as a kook.
> As far as I know, none who post here
> has ever been distinguished by the Kookstone Kopp newsgroups with any
> of their cherished "awards", over which real kooks intensely salivate.
> So tell me why you can't seem to distinguish between "real" kooks and
> those of us who use our imaginations and who like to speculate about
> astronomy subjects?
I say fine...Speculate all you want. Just don't get mad at ME for
providing the counterweight to your foolishness. Sound good?
>
>> So why again do 99% of all theorists adhere to the big bang theory?
>
> I'm sure it's less than 99%. Can you back that up?
Absolutely.
> "Most" astronomers adhere to the Big Bang "hypothesis". Yes, I do
> think this is an incorrect idea. It most definitely would *not* take
> "all new physics" to refute the Big Bang. All it would take is some
> young, newly papered scientist to show how all of the existing
> evidence can be used to support any of a number of viable models of
> the Universe - and some of those models *don't* include fairytale
> beginnings.
So tell me again...Why do you NOT believe in the big bang?
(Besides your gut feeling and desire to be 'cutting edge')
> If you were *really* a theoretical astrophysicist
LOL
> then you would be
> one of those who are out there on the fringe,
LOL
> who wonder about how
> that first singularity got there and what made it begin to expand, who
> theorize about colliding Universe branes and wandering Universes that
> may have sparked the beginning of our Universe.
Trash. Thought up by those shilling for their next book and/or pop-sci
TV show that you kooks love so much.
> But no - you're just here to try to "win us over" to the mainstream
> and to call us kooks.
That's because I care about the truth.
> Some of us used to be on a kook list made by
> Art Deco, which he uploaded to the Internet, but it's been removed and
> can't be found anywhere anymore.
This 'Art Deco' guys seems nice. I vaguely remember the name.
I love how you still feel hurt by him listing you as a kook.
> As far as I know, none who post here
> has ever been distinguished by the Kookstone Kopp newsgroups with any
> of their cherished "awards", over which real kooks intensely salivate.
> So tell me why you can't seem to distinguish between "real" kooks and
> those of us who use our imaginations and who like to speculate about
> astronomy subjects?
I say fine...Speculate all you want. Just don't get mad at ME for
providing the counterweight to your foolishness. Sound good?
HVAC
Oct 31, 2012, 9:05:50 AM10/31/12
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On 10/31/2012 4:06 AM, Painius wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Can he "infer" whether it's going CW or CCW?
>
> Now that would call for a reference point that none are privy to, so I
> would imagine that you are just kiddingly blowing smoke up my ass.
> You make such cute "snyde" remarks! lol
Amazing how a kook can dodge a straightforward question.
>
>>>
>>> Since there is no external reference point. How can you tell that the
>>> universe is rotating?
>>
>> Can he "infer" whether it's going CW or CCW?
>
> Now that would call for a reference point that none are privy to, so I
> would imagine that you are just kiddingly blowing smoke up my ass.
> You make such cute "snyde" remarks! lol
Mr. Snyder...If you want a few more laughs, ask Painus if he believes
in god! LOL
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