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 More options Oct 19 2012, 5:35 am
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
From: Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:35:55 -0500
Local: Fri, Oct 19 2012 5:35 am
Subject: Re: looking for a geek
On 10/19/2012 1:39 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <k5qqt2$dh...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
> wrote:

>> On 10/18/2012 8:46 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <k5javn$f1...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>>> wrote:

>>>> On 10/16/2012 2:04 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>> In article <k5ioo7$o6...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> On 10/15/2012 10:36 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>> Got my U-verse installed today and the guy also hooked up my Roku box
>>>>>>> and my Blu-ray player.

>>>>>>> Unfortunately, my receiver is 7 years old and doesn't have an HDMI
>>>>>>> output, so the blu-ray is hooked directly to the tv, so I can watch
>>>>>>> them, but with only the tv speakers, not my surround sound system.

>>>>>>> Does anybody know how I can fix this little problem?

>>>>>>> Oh, by the way, everything worked first try (tv connection, phone,
>>>>>>> computer, and wifi settings for my tablet and cell phone). Now I just
>>>>>>> have to learn my new channel lineup--gulp!

>>>>>> Your TV almost certainly has stereo audio outputs and your receiver is
>>>>>> sure to have them. They use RCA connectors like we used to use to
>>>>>> connect VCRs to TVs. Red and white for audio and yellow for video. You
>>>>>> won't need the yellow for this application. You'll be limited to
>>>>>> stereo though.

>>>>>> Some HDTV's have coaxial or optical audio outputs. Your receiver may
>>>>>> have compatible inputs. If so, you'll have surround again.

>>>>>> Post the make and model numbers of your TV and receiver and I'll check
>>>>>> for a solution.

>>>>> Thanks. I'll try to figure it out, though if the info's not on the front
>>>>> I've got another problem because there's no way I can move either. I'll
>>>>> figure something out.

>>>> Did you save the receipts somewhere? If you bought them on-line,
>>>> there's probably a record.

>>> Nope, this is one of the things I actually bought in a physical store.

>>> But I found the info.

>>> The receiver is Pioneer VSX-9300TX.

>>> The tv is Panasonic TH-42PX60U.

>> Thanks. I'll do some checking.

>> Back already.

>> Great news. Your TV has an optical audio output. It's shown on page 34
>> of the manual at the link below.

>> Your receiver accepts an optical audio input so you're good to go.
>> You'll find it on page 18 of the receiver manual.

>> You'll need a TOSLINK cable to connect the TV to the receiver. It's
>> probably TMI but here's a link to the wiki:

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK

>> Don't let anyone talk you into to an expensive TOSLINK cable. The
>> fancy ones don't work any better than the cheap ones unless you're
>> equipment is very far apart. I'm talking 25 feet or more.

>> Best Buy sells a six foot TOSLINK cable for $5.99. I don't know if
>> there's a Best Buy where you live but here's the link anyway.

> Amazon has a 6-ft one for $5.49.

> Of course I can't buy ANYthing until Nov. 1. I get paid (formerly my
> salary, now my pension) once a month, so I've learned to live with
> loading up all my bills and purchases to the 1st week of the month. I
> buy my groceries the last 2 weeks with the $50 my neighbor pays me to
> use my parking space.

My Social Security check is deposited on the second Wednesday of each
month. That bizarre scheme means there's a cycle of two four week
months followed by a five week month. Even though it's predictable, it
results in a lean month four times a year.

>> http://tinyurl.com/93tk8tj

>> Once it's connected, all the audio from broadcast TV, your Roku box,
>> and your Bluray player will be routed to your receiver, decoded by the
>> appropriate surround sound processor, sent to your speakers, and
>> finally to your ears. For the first few days it will probably go to
>> your neighbors ears as well. :)

>> You'll probably want to turn off the TV's speakers and you'll have to
>> select the correct input on your receiver. It should be a one-time
>> process to set everything up. User's manuals are written by and for
>> geeks so you may have trouble finding the settings. Feel free to
>> contact me by email if you want some help.

> Thanks.

> What I need is someone strong enough to move the tv and the receiver to
> get at the back (why doesn't everybody put everything on the front; what
> do people do when they wall-mount?) I wasn't all that strong before but
> now with 2 shoulders so arthritic they both need to be replaced it's
> pathetic.

I've occasionally used the camera on my cell phone to 'peek' behind a
flat screen TV to locate a connector and determine it's orientation.
If I've got room to do that, I can generally feel around for the
connection and plug the cable into it. TOSLINK cables are small and
flexible and they plug in without any fuss. You do have to have them
oriented correctly though.

I'm assuming your TV sits atop a cabinet that holds the other
equipment. You may be able to gently pull out the receiver enough to
reach in and grab the dangling TOSLINK cable. (I emphasize 'gently'
because you don't want any of the other wires or cables to come loose.
I'm guessing you've got only the power cable, an antenna cable, and
the speaker wires connected. Those cables are generally fastened
tightly enough that you don't have to worry about pulling them loose.
HDMI cables seem to work there way out of their connectors with little
effort.)

Bending a wire coat hanger may help if the TOSLINK cable is too far
away to reach. Again, you don't need to actually see behind the
receiver to plug the cable in if you can take a peek with your cell
phone first. The connection for the TOSLINK cable is near the top of
your receiver so there's little chance that you'll bump into the power
or speaker cables. It's near the antenna connection though.

I was fortunate to live for years in Vermillion, SD, where USD is
located. Having a endless supply of bright, optimistic college
students around made my life much easier than it would otherwise have
been. If you aren't able or willing to try to install the cable
yourself, you may be able to find a helper at a nearby college. Some
of them have 'rent a kid' programs that will send someone over for
very little money. That way you'll get brains along with the brawn.
Failing that, a neighbor's kid might be an option.

>> Here are the links to the setup manuals for your TV and receiver:

>> TV

>> service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TH37PX60U-ENGLISH.pdf

>> Receiver:

>> http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_11221/1385...
>> 9300TX%20OPERATING%20INSTRUCTIONS.pdf

>> I couldn't figure out how to use tinyURL to shorten the links because
>> of the way my browser processes .pdf downloads. Sorry.

> I actually found the manuals. But it's good to know where to find the
> info I need so I don't need to plow through so much.

I like to keep my manuals on a computer because it gives me the option
of increasing the size of the type and allows searching.

> Oh, one question I couldn't find an answer to-what my tv is HD-wise. The
> u-verse guy thought (based on its age) that it was 1080i no 1080p, but I
> have no clue.

According to the specs on page 46, the number of pixels is (1,024 (W)
× 768 (H). Therefore, the maximum resolution is 720p. On a 42" HDTV,
it's difficult to see much of a difference between 720p and 1080i. It
wasn't very long ago when we were happy with broadcast TV at 640×480
and VHS at 300×480. DVD's max out at 720×480. All things considered,
watching at 1020x720 is quite a leap forward. Your next step should
1080p at 1920x1080 but there's no reason to be in a hurry.

 
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