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BroilJAB

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Nov 2, 2012, 5:48:26 AM11/2/12
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In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
are nearly the same as you winning the
PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
And that is merely the smallest first step
needed for evolution to overcome reality.
That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.

Ringer

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Nov 2, 2012, 7:14:00 AM11/2/12
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"BroilJAB" <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
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You need to take a refresher course in statistics. Actually reading some
science books on biology, astronomy and physics would be helpful too. That
vast infantile faith that thinks everyone is an atheist when they don't
agree with you is religion.


linuxgal

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Nov 2, 2012, 9:24:22 AM11/2/12
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Except the Powerball balls don't have chemical laws that make them stick
together in certain ways.


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Dan

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Nov 2, 2012, 12:35:40 PM11/2/12
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So, you are returning your refrigerator to the store, because your
science leaders tell you it doesn't (can't) work? How about that
internal combustion engine, any product with a LASER in it.

Hell, I have much more admiration for those religious sects who disdain
modern living by LIVING AS THEY BELIEVE than for some piss-ant sheep
like you to stupid to understand he is being used by his political
master masquerading as religious leaders. I mean, if you cannot be
bothered to read your own god-damned religious texts, why should anyone
with a brain listen to the likes of you?

Dumb shit...

Dan

Choomy

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Nov 2, 2012, 12:35:58 PM11/2/12
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On 11/2/2012 6:24 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> BroilJAB wrote:
>> In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
>> are nearly the same as you winning the
>> PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
>> And that is merely the smallest first step
>> needed for evolution to overcome reality.
>> That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>
> Except the Powerball balls don't have chemical laws that make them stick
> together in certain ways.
>
>That's because only God can give life.

Mike Painter

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Nov 2, 2012, 3:01:51 PM11/2/12
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 06:24:22 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote:

>BroilJAB wrote:
>> In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
>> are nearly the same as you winning the
>> PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
>> And that is merely the smallest first step
>> needed for evolution to overcome reality.
>> That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>
>Except the Powerball balls don't have chemical laws that make them stick
>together in certain ways.
And there are not trillions of drawings a day.
And there are millions of "winning" combinations.

And if there is a "win" that combination goes into the pot and can be
drawn again.

Given 100 balls numbered 1 to 100.
If ten balls are drawn at a time what is the probability of any two
being 1,2?
Add a ball labeled 1-2 *every* time this happens.
What is the probability of any two being 1-2,3?
Add a 1-2-3 ball *every* time this happens.

How many drawings before there is a ball with 1-2-...-100 on it?

Now add linixgal's "sticky" rules.

Adjust the weight of the balls with a sequence on it to come up twice
as often as one with a single digit.

How many drawings before there is a ball with 1-2-...-100 on it?
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BroilJAB

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Nov 2, 2012, 4:03:17 PM11/2/12
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Uergil

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Nov 2, 2012, 5:09:00 PM11/2/12
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In article
<21257dcb-65c2-438a...@g4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> In fact, the odds of evolution

Those, like creationist heretic Liarboi Broiljab, who oppose the truths
of Science must deny the reality of reality and proclaim the reality of
mythology to do so.

Creationists like Liarboi Broiljab demand that facts be
rejected whenever those facts conflict with their faith.

Evolution, as with other sciences, demands that one's
faith be revised when it conflicts with the facts.

Which do YOU do?
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

Anonymous

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Nov 2, 2012, 6:54:11 PM11/2/12
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If they would call it "adaptation" instead of "evolution," that
would make more sense. It is certain that most species adapt,
or attempt to adapt, over time to their changing environments.
Those species which do not adapt, or cannot adapt for whatever
cause, eventually become extinct.

But the strangest thing about "atheism" is their illogical
insistence on boasting to the world that they are "without"
something they don't believe exists. I don't believe in the
tooth fairy, but I make no claim to being an "atooth-fairiest"
or something patently ludicrous as that.

"Thiests" can be illogical, but nobody does illogic better than
an "atheist."

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linuxgal

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Nov 2, 2012, 7:52:06 PM11/2/12
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What God gave the living God life?

Carl Kaufmann

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Nov 2, 2012, 8:01:55 PM11/2/12
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The tooth-fairly said I should hunt you down and throw rocks at you
until you are dead. In fact I love the tooth fairy so much I'm going
to try to get a law passed saying _everyone_ should do so.

Seth lePod

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Nov 2, 2012, 9:30:53 PM11/2/12
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On Nov 2, 3:54 pm, Anonymous <anonym...@foto.nl1.torservers.net>
wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
> >are nearly the same as you winning the
> >PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
> >And that is merely the smallest first step
> >needed for evolution to overcome reality.
> >That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>
> If they would call it "adaptation" instead of "evolution," that
> would make more sense.  It is certain that most species adapt,
> or attempt to adapt, over time to their changing environments.
> Those species which do not adapt, or cannot adapt for whatever
> cause, eventually become extinct.

:
> But the strangest thing about "atheism" is their illogical
> insistence on boasting to the world that they are "without"
> something they don't believe exists. I don't believe in the
> tooth fairy, but I make no claim to being an "atooth-fairiest"
> or something patently ludicrous as that.


I suspect that if people banged in your front door in
order to bring the good Tooth Fairy news to you; if
state constitutions forbade you to hold office unless
you claimed belief in the Tooth Fairy; if soldiers came
under extreme institutionally-backed pressure to
conform to their fellows' belief in the Tooth Fairy; if
no one who refused to give at least lip service to the
Tooth Fairy had a chance in hell of attaining high
political office; if you were expected to plead for the
Tooth Fairy's help that you might be able to tell the
truth when under oath... I suspect that if these things
were true, AND if you were sufficiently brave, then you
would in fact declare your lack of belief in the Big
T.F.


Seth

Mike Painter

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Nov 3, 2012, 12:24:36 AM11/3/12
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:54:11 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
<anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
>>In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
>>are nearly the same as you winning the
>>PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
>>And that is merely the smallest first step
>>needed for evolution to overcome reality.
>>That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>
>If they would call it "adaptation" instead of "evolution," that
>would make more sense. It is certain that most species adapt,
>or attempt to adapt, over time to their changing environments.
>Those species which do not adapt, or cannot adapt for whatever
>cause, eventually become extinct.

It could be called anything you want it to be called and as long as it
followed the theory called evolution it would be valid.


>
>But the strangest thing about "atheism" is their illogical
>insistence on boasting to the world that they are "without"
>something they don't believe exists. I don't believe in the
>tooth fairy, but I make no claim to being an "atooth-fairiest"
>or something patently ludicrous as that.
>
>"Thiests" can be illogical, but nobody does illogic better than
>an "atheist."


You can use "without the belief in gods" if you want to.

I suppose you call a TV set a device for receiving digital signals and
converting them to a visible moving picture?

And a cell phone should clearly be called by a lot of words rather
than one that conveys the concept clearly.

Father Haskell

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Nov 3, 2012, 12:31:44 AM11/3/12
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On Nov 2, 9:24 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> BroilJAB wrote:
> > In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
> > are nearly the same as you winning the
> > PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
> > And that is merely the smallest first step
> > needed for evolution to overcome reality.
> > That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>
> Except the Powerball balls don't have chemical laws that make them stick
> together in certain ways.

And it's usually not atoms that combine, but molecules.

Les

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Nov 3, 2012, 8:58:28 AM11/3/12
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:54:11 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
<anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:

A theist is a person who believes in the existence of god or gods,
it is what distinquishes him from normal people.

I am completely normal since I am not theist.

We are all born without theism which is a character flaw that is
usually arrived at when still young from parents who are also theist.

What we are 'without' is the theist beliefs nothing else and it is
what theist constantly attack us for

Unlike tooth fairy believers who are thin on the ground you are
not constantly castigated by them for not sharing their beliefs,
it is a non issue to you. Being without thiest relgious beliefs would
also be a non issue to us as well except that this newsgroup is
constantly bombarded by theist like you who attack us for not
sharing your beliefs. It is you that makes this an issue not us.

I can understand why you wish to remain anonymous, I would
be also ashamed to be associated with abnormal Christan relgious
beliefs that I could not justify so I can understand you not wishing
to associating you name with them

I though christans regarded denying christ like this was a sin
to them?

>
>"Thiests" can be illogical, but nobody does illogic better than
>an "atheist."

Opinion noted and laughed at :-)

<snigger>

Les Hellawell
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"For the assertion that “There is no God” is just as much a claim to
knowledge as is the assertion that “There is a God.” Therefore, the
former assertion requires justification just as the latter does. "
- William Lane Craig, "Reasonable Faith"

linuxgal

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Nov 3, 2012, 9:24:29 AM11/3/12
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Atoms combine to form molecules. Molecules combine to form bigger
molecules. There are regularities of succession that govern the
probability of these combinations. But Powerball is completely random.

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max headroom

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Nov 3, 2012, 9:54:56 AM11/3/12
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Les <l...@sharnt.tell> wrote in news:n74a98hsdg75m425o...@4ax.com:

> Unlike tooth fairy believers who are thin on the ground you are
> not constantly castigated by them for not sharing their beliefs,
> it is a non issue to you. Being without thiest relgious beliefs would
> also be a non issue to us as well except that this newsgroup is
> constantly bombarded by theist like you who attack us for not
> sharing your beliefs. It is you that makes this an issue not us....

"This newsgroup"?

Why are atheists "bombarding" rec.arts.tv and talk.politics.guns with their bilge?


Mason Barge

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Nov 3, 2012, 3:59:24 PM11/3/12
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 12:58:28 +0000, Les <l...@sharnt.tell> wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:54:11 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
><anon...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
>>>are nearly the same as you winning the
>>>PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
>>>And that is merely the smallest first step
>>>needed for evolution to overcome reality.
>>>That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>>
>>If they would call it "adaptation" instead of "evolution," that
>>would make more sense. It is certain that most species adapt,
>>or attempt to adapt, over time to their changing environments.
>>Those species which do not adapt, or cannot adapt for whatever
>>cause, eventually become extinct.
>>
>>But the strangest thing about "atheism" is their illogical
>>insistence on boasting to the world that they are "without"
>>something they don't believe exists. I don't believe in the
>>tooth fairy, but I make no claim to being an "atooth-fairiest"
>>or something patently ludicrous as that.
>
>A theist is a person who believes in the existence of god or gods,
>it is what distinquishes him from normal people.
>
>I am completely normal since I am not theist.

How do you define "normal"?

Anonymous

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Nov 3, 2012, 8:54:35 PM11/3/12
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What first-world country does that nowadays? Oh I remember, the
old "I pledge allegiance to the flag" propaganda shoved down the
throats of unsuspecting children. They even have children and
adults alike lined up like zombies for the "Oh say can you see
by the dawn's early light" Orwellian bullcrap at stadiums (while
Joseph Goebbels rolls over in his grave, so to speak).

But of course all governments have ruled by making their "subjects"
fear them more than they fear the enemies of those governments.
Likewise, all governments have come to power by brute force, bribes,
terrorism, and all manner of amorality and unconscionable acts. So
whether theism, atheism, or any other form of brainwashing and
control becomes the law of that government, it's like jumping out
of the frying pan and into the fire.

Fortunately, all empires rise and fall. Unfortunately, however,
it's always been "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." The
point being that there are no good guys in a world full of bad guys.
Atheist, theist, atooth-fairiest, it makes no difference at all.

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Nomen Nescio

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Nov 3, 2012, 9:38:30 PM11/3/12
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Salvador Dali?

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Choomy

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Nov 3, 2012, 9:47:03 PM11/3/12
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On 11/2/2012 4:52 PM, linuxgal wrote:
> Choomy wrote:
>> On 11/2/2012 6:24 AM, linuxgal wrote:
>>> BroilJAB wrote:
>>>> In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
>>>> are nearly the same as you winning the
>>>> PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
>>>> And that is merely the smallest first step
>>>> needed for evolution to overcome reality.
>>>> That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>>>
>>> Except the Powerball balls don't have chemical laws that make them stick
>>> together in certain ways.
>>>
>>> That's because only God can give life.
>>
>
> What God gave the living God life?
>
We don't know, I'm sure Atheists have some clever answer for
reassurance of their superiority.

Choomy

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Nov 3, 2012, 9:49:15 PM11/3/12
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Are you sure? Who created random?

Choomy

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Nov 3, 2012, 9:50:20 PM11/3/12
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They are led by the Obama family of disbarred lawyers.

Dave U. Random

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Nov 3, 2012, 10:09:02 PM11/3/12
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Good points, but see my reply to Carl Kaufmann.

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Anonymous

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Nov 3, 2012, 11:43:53 PM11/3/12
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Interesting, theists constantly attack atheists? That's news to
me. Last I heard, theist activists were trying to "convert" or
win over skeptics and unbelievers into their tithes-paying fold
of new recruits, like with Amway or any other pyramid scheme.

>Unlike tooth fairy believers who are thin on the ground you are
>not constantly castigated by them for not sharing their beliefs,
>it is a non issue to you. Being without thiest relgious beliefs would
>also be a non issue to us as well except that this newsgroup is
>constantly bombarded by theist like you who attack us for not
>sharing your beliefs. It is you that makes this an issue not us.
>
LOL! Theists like me? That's a lame attempt at condescension.

>I can understand why you wish to remain anonymous, I would
>be also ashamed to be associated with abnormal Christan relgious
>beliefs that I could not justify so I can understand you not wishing
>to associating you name with them
>
There are plenty of good reasons to post anonymously. But I'm
clueless as to where you got the idea that I'm "associated" with
religious beliefs of any sort, much less Xianity. I don't believe
in anything, religious or otherwise. I only know what I know, and
I know that I don't know what I don't know (but I do have my
suspicions).

>I though christans regarded denying christ like this was a sin
>to them?
>
Whatever the word "sin" might mean? I don't think it means
anything apart from "I am being doublethinked into submission."

>>
>>"Thiests" can be illogical, but nobody does illogic better than
>>an "atheist."
>
>Opinion noted and laughed at :-)
>
><snigger>
>
At least you have a good sense of "humor" . . . err, "scoffing."
But perhaps I deserve it, seeing as how I'm a card-carrying member
of the international atooth-fairiest league.

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Nomen Nescio

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Nov 4, 2012, 12:45:51 AM11/4/12
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Interesting, theists constantly attack atheists? That's news to
me. Last I heard, theist activists were trying to "convert" or
win over skeptics and unbelievers into their tithes-paying fold
of new recruits, like with Amway or any other pyramid scheme.

>Unlike tooth fairy believers who are thin on the ground you are
>not constantly castigated by them for not sharing their beliefs,
>it is a non issue to you. Being without thiest relgious beliefs would
>also be a non issue to us as well except that this newsgroup is
>constantly bombarded by theist like you who attack us for not
>sharing your beliefs. It is you that makes this an issue not us.
>
LOL! Theists like me? That's a lame attempt at condescension.

>I can understand why you wish to remain anonymous, I would
>be also ashamed to be associated with abnormal Christan relgious
>beliefs that I could not justify so I can understand you not wishing
>to associating you name with them
>
There are plenty of good reasons to post anonymously. But I'm
clueless as to where you got the idea that I'm "associated" with
religious beliefs of any sort, much less Xianity. I don't believe
in anything, religious or otherwise. I only know what I know, and
I know that I don't know what I don't know (but I do have my
suspicions).

>I though christans regarded denying christ like this was a sin
>to them?
>
Whatever the word "sin" might mean? I don't think it means
anything apart from "I am being doublethinked into submission."

>>
>>"Thiests" can be illogical, but nobody does illogic better than
>>an "atheist."
>
>Opinion noted and laughed at :-)
>
><snigger>
>

Martin Phipps

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Nov 5, 2012, 7:00:21 AM11/5/12
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On Nov 4, 3:59 am, Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 12:58:28 +0000, Les <l...@sharnt.tell> wrote:
> >On Fri,  2 Nov 2012 18:54:11 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
> ><anonym...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:
>
> >>On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> >>>In fact, the odds of evolution ever occuring
> >>>are nearly the same as you winning the
> >>>PowerBall every day for 985 years in a row.
> >>>And that is merely the smallest first step
> >>>needed for evolution to overcome reality.
> >>>That sort of vast, infantile faith is Atheism.
>
> >>If they would call it "adaptation" instead of "evolution," that
> >>would make more sense.  It is certain that most species adapt,
> >>or attempt to adapt, over time to their changing environments.
> >>Those species which do not adapt, or cannot adapt for whatever
> >>cause, eventually become extinct.
>
> >>But the strangest thing about "atheism" is their illogical
> >>insistence on boasting to the world that they are "without"
> >>something they don't believe exists.  I don't believe in the
> >>tooth fairy, but I make no claim to being an "atooth-fairiest"
> >>or something patently ludicrous as that.
>
> >A theist is a person who believes in the existence of god or gods,
> >it is what distinquishes him from normal people.
>
> >I am completely normal since I am not theist.
>
> How do you define "normal"?

Not insane.

Martin

Martin Phipps

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Nov 5, 2012, 7:02:03 AM11/5/12
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On Nov 4, 12:45 pm, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Nov 2012, Les <l...@sharnt.tell> wrote:
> >On Fri,  2 Nov 2012 18:54:11 -0400 (EDT), Anonymous
> ><anonym...@foto.nl1.torservers.net> wrote:
People who forget the lessons of history are destined to repeat it.

Martin

Mason Barge

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Nov 5, 2012, 2:17:33 PM11/5/12
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That's completely self-referential.

And I can certainly find non-theists who are, by current medical and legal
standards, "insane".

cloud dreamer

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Nov 5, 2012, 2:58:32 PM11/5/12
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Insanity is not a medical term. Only a legal one.

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