HALLELUJAH! STEPHEN HAWKING FINALLY ADMITS THERE'S A GOD
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LONDON (Rueters) -- God DID
create the universe, says the man
who is arguably one of the world's
most famous living scientists.
Noted astrophysicist Stephen
Hawkins now admits being a horse's
ass for writing a book, The Grand
Design, in which he emphatically
stated that God is a boogeyman
who does NOT exist.
In i t, he had erroneously argued
that the Big Bang, instead of occurring following the intervention of
a Divine
Being, was inevitable due to the law
of gravity.
In his 1988 book, A Brief History
of Time, Hawking had seemed
to accept the role of God in the
creation of the universe. But in
The Grand Design, he stated that
new theories showed a Creator is
"not necessary."
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But all of this changed over the
weekend following a long toll-free
telehone chat with one Ed Conrad
who got Stephen to review his assine thinking and publicly apologize
for
his utter stupidly.
"It only goes to prove that even
someone as smart as me, with an
IQ of 212-F degrees -- same as the
boiling point of water -- can be fooled,"
Hawkins wrote on Twitter today.
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In The Grand Design, Hawkins
had challeged the belief of both Sir
saac Newton and Ed Conrad that
the universe must have been
designed by God since it certainy
couldn't have been created out
of chaos.
"Because there is a law such as
gravity, the universe can and will
create itself from nothing," he had
written in the book. "Spontaneous
creation is the reason there is
something rather than nothing,
why the universe exists, why we
exist.
"It isn't necessary to invoke God
to light the blue touch paper and
set the universe going."
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If you think this is a posting by
a raving lunatic, listen to what
Steve told Ed on the phone just
before their conversation ended. . .
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WHAT CONVINCED STEVE TO CHANGE HIS TUNE
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ilbe...@gmail.com
Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
publicly . This is the challenge to all proclaimed 'atheists' who
dont want God to exist. I was there at one time as a proclaimed
'atheist'....but thank God (literally) that he brought me out of my
own willful self absorbed nature that put me on the throne of my life
instead of his rightful place of honor. Praise God in Heaven for his
love !
Richard Brooks
Ed Conrad admits to mixing Seroquel and Zyprexa in heavy dosage.
Virgil
<5800aa7c-af50-44e7...@u3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
Intrepid <Intre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Scrunchy
> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> publicly .
Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
Louis Epstein
:
:> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Sam Wormley
> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
See: http://www.meta-library.net/transcript/wein-body.html
Jeanne Douglas
> In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
> :
> :> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> :> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> :> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> :> publicly .
> :
> : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
>
> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
Only if you're too stupid to understand reality.
JD
Kenny McCormack
Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
>In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
>:
>:> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
>:> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
>:> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
>:> publicly .
>:
>: Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
>
>There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
>All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
>God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
I've heard that, contrary to widespread belief, putting something in all
caps does not, in and of itself, make it true.
The world would probably be a much better place if it did, but alas, it
does not.
--
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order -
Brian E. Clark
l...@main.put.com says...
> : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
>
> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
Stupidity is stupidity, even when it's expressed in capital
letters.
--
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Brian E. Clark
bender
"Louis Epstein" <l...@main.put.com> wrote in message
news:ikh1fb$oju$7...@reader1.panix.com...
> In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
> :
> :> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> :> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> :> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> :> publicly .
> :
> : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
>
> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
Do you have any proof of this? Have you considered the fact that there was
no beginning.
Louis Epstein
: In article <ikh1fb$oju$7...@reader1.panix.com>,
: Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
:>In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
:>:
:>:> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
:>:> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
:>:> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
:>:> publicly .
:>:
:>: Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
:>
:>There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
:>All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
:>God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
:
: I've heard that, contrary to widespread belief, putting something in all
: caps does not, in and of itself, make it true.
You have the causality reversed...I'm putting it in all caps because
it is true,in the vain hope of getting through to those who try to
make out as if it were possible for it not to be true.
Louis Epstein
: In article <ikh1fb$oju$7...@reader1.panix.com>,
It wasn't the atheist who used capital letters,
it was me,CORRECTING his stupidity.
Louis Epstein
:
: "Louis Epstein" <l...@main.put.com> wrote in message
An infinite sequence can have a defined beginning,
but in more dimensions,there essentially has to be
an ultimate "Why" or no existence at all can be
defended.
Yap
> In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
> :
> :> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> :> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> :> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> :> publicly .
> :
> : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
>
> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
Just your saying so doesn't make it true.
Natural world exists here and would not allow sky pixie to exist.
Therefore, we have a clean world where there is no dark cloud overhead
to interfere....get over it.
Yap
> In alt.obituaries Kenny McCormack <gaze...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> : In article <ikh1fb$oj...@reader1.panix.com>,
> : Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
> :>In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
> :>:
> :>:> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> :>:> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> :>:> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> :>:> publicly .
> :>:
> :>: Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
> :>
> :>There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> :>All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> :>God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
> :
> : I've heard that, contrary to widespread belief, putting something in all
> : caps does not, in and of itself, make it true.
>
> You have the causality reversed...I'm putting it in all caps because
> it is true,in the vain hope of getting through to those who try to
> make out as if it were possible for it not to be true.
OK....YOU LIED.
Jeanne Douglas
Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
> In alt.obituaries Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> : In article <ikh1fb$oju$7...@reader1.panix.com>,
> : Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
> :>In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
> :>:
> :>:> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> :>:> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> :>:> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> :>:> publicly .
> :>:
> :>: Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
> :>
> :>There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> :>All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> :>God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
> :
> : I've heard that, contrary to widespread belief, putting something in all
> : caps does not, in and of itself, make it true.
>
> You have the causality reversed...I'm putting it in all caps because
> it is true,in the vain hope of getting through to those who try to
> make out as if it were possible for it not to be true.
Putting it in all caps ain't gonna make your little fantasy any truer.
Provide evidence or go away.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
Apostate
Prove that assertion.
>
>-=-=-
>The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
>at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
--
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Byron Forbes
> :
> :> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> :> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> :> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> :> publicly .
> :
> : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
>
> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
>
Before I begin, let me point out that I am not a christian.
Now I could share my experience with the gods when I was ejected out
of this human body for about 20-30 seconds and later put back in it, but
myself and a few sheilas are the only one's on the planet that actually
know this happened.
Any human who is oblivious to the gods can consider themselves an IQ
failure to that point in their life. A quick look at the photos on the
right is all you really need. If you can't see the clear design there
then you're blind - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skeleton And this
is merely the tip of the iceberg of human anatomy.
Every single cell and cellular construct is a design of the gods.
Allan Matthews
says...
>
> In article <ikh1fb$oju$7...@reader1.panix.com>, l...@main.put.com says...
> >
> > In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
> > :
> > :> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> > :> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> > :> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> > :> publicly .
> > :
> > : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
> >
> > There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> > All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> > God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
> >
> Before I begin, let me point out that I am not a christian.
Perhaps not, but you're clearly a total fruit loop.
> Now I could share my experience with the gods when I was ejected out
> of this human body for about 20-30 seconds and later put back in it, but
> myself and a few sheilas are the only one's on the planet that actually
> know this happened.
>
> Any human who is oblivious to the gods can consider themselves an IQ
> failure to that point in their life. A quick look at the photos on the
> right is all you really need. If you can't see the clear design there
> then you're blind - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skeleton And this
> is merely the tip of the iceberg of human anatomy.
With regards to our skeletons, why did this supposed designer:
1. Put the drainage points of our larger sinuses at the top and not the
bottom?
2. Give us spines that are so poorly designed for walking upright?
3. Make the knee such an engineering nightmare?
These are just the tip of the iceberg of the crappy design features of
human anatomy. Evolution can explain them, but intelligent design
can't.
> Every single cell and cellular construct is a design of the gods.
BECAUSE! YOU! SAY! SO!
Not that you can actually prove.
allan
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Allan Matthews <allan_m...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
I curse this problem every minute of every day.
> 2. Give us spines that are so poorly designed for walking upright?
>
> 3. Make the knee such an engineering nightmare?
Tell me about it!
> These are just the tip of the iceberg of the crappy design features of
> human anatomy. Evolution can explain them, but intelligent design
> can't.
How about the same organ being used for elimination and sex?
Unbelievably stupid.
> > Every single cell and cellular construct is a design of the gods.
>
> BECAUSE! YOU! SAY! SO!
>
> Not that you can actually prove.
There's really got to be something severely lacking in someone's brain
if they can't understand that some people will not just believe
something without evidence. It's such a simple concept.
Bob Masta
<l...@main.put.com> wrote:
>In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
>:
>:> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
>:> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
>:> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
>:> publicly .
>:
>: Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
>
>There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
>All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
>God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
I get the impression that you feel very strongly that
everything must have had a creator, but that you are not at
all bothered about the origin of that creator. Why not?
Personally, if you have to accept something that you can't
yet explain, it seems easier to imagine 10^80 particles
spontaneously popping into existence, than to suppose they
were created by some super-duper all-powerful mystical being
whose origins can't be questioned.
Just a thought...
Bob Masta
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And what are you going to be saying when science proves they are
right? Note that they have that nasty habit over 2,000 years of being
right and the bible wrong.
Harry K
Andre Lieven
> In alt.obituaries Brian E. Clark <brianecl...@address.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> : In article <ikh1fb$oj...@reader1.panix.com>,
> : l...@main.put.com says...
> :
> :> : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
> :>
> :> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> :
> : Stupidity is stupidity, even when it's expressed in capital
> : letters.
>
> It wasn't the atheist who used capital letters,
Indeed. We know that, which is why the comment about YOUR
stupidity was so accurately worded.
> it was me, CORRECTING his stupidity.
-That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed
without evidence.-
Andre
Byron Forbes
allan_m...@bigfoot.com says...
>
> In article <MPG.27d747514...@news.tpg.com.au>, ho...@tpg.com.au
> says...
> >
> > In article <ikh1fb$oju$7...@reader1.panix.com>, l...@main.put.com says...
> > >
> > > In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
> > > :
> > > :> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
> > > :> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
> > > :> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
> > > :> publicly .
> > > :
> > > : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
> > >
> > > There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
> > > All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
> > > God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
> > >
> > Before I begin, let me point out that I am not a christian.
>
> Perhaps not, but you're clearly a total fruit loop.
>
Typical atheist crap!
> > Now I could share my experience with the gods when I was ejected out
> > of this human body for about 20-30 seconds and later put back in it, but
> > myself and a few sheilas are the only one's on the planet that actually
> > know this happened.
> >
> > Any human who is oblivious to the gods can consider themselves an IQ
> > failure to that point in their life. A quick look at the photos on the
> > right is all you really need. If you can't see the clear design there
> > then you're blind - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skeleton And this
> > is merely the tip of the iceberg of human anatomy.
>
> With regards to our skeletons, why did this supposed designer:
>
> 1. Put the drainage points of our larger sinuses at the top and not the
> bottom?
>
> 2. Give us spines that are so poorly designed for walking upright?
>
> 3. Make the knee such an engineering nightmare?
>
> These are just the tip of the iceberg of the crappy design features of
> human anatomy. Evolution can explain them, but intelligent design
> can't.
>
Oh? So let's hear the evolution explanation then! It normally goes
something like - "awe, it just is 'cause it just is!"
Well we all look forward to your future designs anyway.
It's surprising that a genius like yourself is yet to do better. Let
us know when you have a model for us to have our conscience transfered
into would you.
PS - will you be growing it from an egg/sperm or just whacking
together a few nuts and bolts?
> > Every single cell and cellular construct is a design of the gods.
>
> BECAUSE! YOU! SAY! SO!
>
> Not that you can actually prove.
>
> allan
I know so and see as plain as day so.
Byron Forbes
N0S...@daqarta.com says...
>
> I get the impression that you feel very strongly that
> everything must have had a creator, but that you are not at
> all bothered about the origin of that creator. Why not?
>
I believe we have always been and will always be.
God is simply a living being that has constructed cellular life and
learned how to put us in it's creations and fuck around with us! :)
You tinker on a discussion about elemental life. What are we without
these vessels of flesh?
Don Martin
>> These are just the tip of the iceberg of the crappy design features of
>> human anatomy. Evolution can explain them, but intelligent design
>> can't.
> Oh? So let's hear the evolution explanation then! It normally goes
>something like - "awe, it just is 'cause it just is!"
You do not offer, I see, an "intelligent design" explanation while asking for
something too long to post on a newsgroup and probably beyond your comprehension
abilities in the best of weathers.
-
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
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Louis Epstein
: On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 00:48:19 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
:
:>In alt.obituaries bender <kis...@shinymetalazz.com> wrote:
:>:
:>: "Louis Epstein" <l...@main.put.com> wrote in message
:>: news:ikh1fb$oju$7...@reader1.panix.com...
:>:> In alt.obituaries Scrunchy <e...@mycereal.com> wrote:
:>:> :
:>:> :> Hawkings knew all along there must be a personal Creator for our
:>:> :> personal Cosmos which even the quantity of stars are necessary for
:>:> :> earth to be here....but, its good to see he was WILLING to admit it
:>:> :> publicly .
:>:> :
:>:> : Um, yeah, that never happened. There is no god, get over it.
:>:>
:>:> There MUST be a God,or there COULD NOT BE ANYTHING.
:>:> All details are legitimately open to question...but that there HAS to be a
:>:> God is the MOST CERTAIN OF ALL POSSIBLE FACTS.
:>:
:>: Do you have any proof of this? Have you considered the fact that there was
:>: no beginning.
:>
:>An infinite sequence can have a defined beginning,
:>but in more dimensions,there essentially has to be
:>an ultimate "Why" or no existence at all can be
:>defended.
:
: Prove that assertion.
Unless it is true,
there is no way to prove any assertion!
:>
:>-=-=-
:
Apostate
You're so barmy, arguing with you would be even barmier.
qaali
Then your assertion that there MUST be a god is not true.
Louis Epstein
:
: "Louis Epstein" <l...@main.put.com> wrote in message
No,because it is proven true by the existence of anything
whatsoever.
BECAUSE it is true,it is possible for other things to be true.
If it were not true,nothing could exist.
Dirk Diggler
That is *not* proof. Existence itself cannot even be proven.
> BECAUSE it is true,it is possible for other things to be true.
> If it were not true,nothing could exist.
That's just completely illogical. The universe has no beginning. Your
simple mind is unable to grasp this concept so you make up something like
"god" to explain existence. And by logic, if there was no existence before
god created the universe, then god was created at the same time the universe
or existence was.
Apostate
Ineducable waste of electrons.
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