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Albert K. Fung  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 1:18 pm
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore, alt.atheism, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.china, hk.politics
From: "Albert K. Fung" <akwf...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:18:38 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: Science versus Religion, or Science _and_ Religion?
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In the last sentence, "is" should have been "his". A sincere
apology fro the sloppy editing is in order.

Here we go again .... :)

-----------------------------------------------------------

TheInquirer:

> by the way, i would like to ask:-
>     is religion really subjective or inter-subjective?
>     is science really subjective or inter-subjective?

ltlee:

> If we put all human "knowledge," ie, whatever helps us to understand
> the
> world along a continuum from totally subjective to totally
> objective(inter-
> subjective), religion and sciences would be the two poles. The
> significance
> of objectivity is that it allows whatever humans have discovered to
> be
> accumulative over time.

AKF:

> Faith in human knowledge ....

> On one hand, and equating it to truth on the other, are sal-
> ient doctrines of the science religion. Together with the un
> -wavering faith in the belief that the universe is infinite-
> ly knowable, forms the holy trinity that undergirds the fam-
> ed religion. In various forms, many of its peers do have the
> same doctrines. For example:

> It's the essence of Sola Fide in Lutheranism ....

ltlee:

> Science is not a religion in the sense it does not claim to comprise
> all knowledge, let alone truth.  In contrast, religious doctrines
> frequently
> dictates that god and his revelations comprise the totality of
> knowledge
> and truth.

AKF:

> Entirely understandable apology ....

> Albeit not atypical, from a layperson who is completely head
> over heel at awe with the science religion. Here is what one
> of its highest priests, Sir Issac Newton, has to say regard-
> ing its divinity, and, His/Hers/Its galactic revelations:

> "this most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets,
> could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intel
> -ligent and powerful being."

> Source: Issac Newton/Principia/Second edition (in English)

TheInquirer:

> why is it an "apology"?  what did L T Lee do wrong?

Apology - a justification/defense ....

For example, Tertullian's "Apology for Christianity". One of
many fields of Christian theology in the antiquity was Chris
-tian apologetics. The aim of that was to present a rational
basis for the Christian faith. And, to defend it against lay
objections. In that sense, Netter Lee is an apologist.

Defending his faith in the science religion .... :)

Regards,

Albert K. Fung
Rancho del Canto, Paso Robles, California, USA.


 
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