New York (EAP)
Maureen Smith of Buffalo hasn't read the news or stayed informed of
what has happened among the Catholic celrgy, nor does she plan to.
But she had heard that magazines such as Newsweek and Time, which
contain articles about the current Catholic pedophile scandal, is
anti-Catholic. That, she said, was enough for her to bring her
16-year-old son and his friend to a protest near the Barnes-and-Noble
bookstore in New York City, New York.- one of many bookstores carrying
the current edition ofNewsweek and Time. "I understand it's
blasphemous," Conrad said. "I trust the people who have read it, and I
believe it's insulting to all Christians."
Apparently so do about 30 other people who joined a peaceful
demonstration organized by the American Society for the Defense of
Tradition, Family and Property -- a national organization of lay
Catholics based in New York that has about 35,000 members.
The Catholic League and other groups had planned about 1000
demonstrations Friday at bookstores across the country.
Protesters held signs and prayed on their Rosaries as cars went past
their spot on a grassy strip along 42nd Ave, more than 1,000 feet from
the bookstore.
This is not the first time the Catholic League has used it clout
against what they perceive as "evil" influence of the "liberal" media.
The Catholic League, with more than 350,000 members, pressured the
Walt Disney Co. and its subsidiary Miramax Films to drop "Dogma" about
two and a half years ago.
"I'm hoping that when people read these articles, they'll say, 'Oh,
it's not the articles that flips the bird at the church,'" an unnamed
Time reporter said this month. "We are actually helping the church in
doing what it should have done in the first place if it was more
competent."
The articles do question some Catholic doctrine. Lanc Morrow, a Time
columnist who happened to have gone to a Jesuit school in his youth,
questioned the wisdom of priestly celibacy.
But what offended Robert Bitchie II, director of the Catholic group's
America Needs Fatima campaign, was the fact that such dirty laundry
was aired for all to see.
"Roman Catholicism must upheld, even by pedophile priests" said
Bitchie II, of New York.
Tim Cooper, a sophomore at Notre Dame High School, was one of a dozen
teen-agers who took part in the demonstration.
"All I know is that it's another blasphemous attempt by the liberal
news media to undermine our church," said Coopper, 15, who held a sign
that read, "Stop Blaspheming Our Lord Now!"
"I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
said.
Yang
a.a.#28
rev -273.15 high priest of the most frigid church of Kelvin
EAC mole and other furry creature
> "I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
> said.
>
What can you expect with mentality like this? Sure the media can be
corrupt and biased at times, but I read new stories with that in mind and
try to see through the spin. I question stuff, even my views if they are
challenged. These people are covering up the truth without even reading
it. I bet they've never read their bibles either.
Have a shpadoinkle day!
-Rawley a.a #2029
--
2 Kings 2:23-24 God sends two bears to rip up 42
little children for making fun of Elisha's bald
head.
Personal incredulity is no basis for a theory.
-Jerry Monk
>eac...@SPAMmail.com (Yang) wrote in
>news:3ca00bff....@news.service.uci.edu:
>
>> "I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
>> said.
>>
>
>What can you expect with mentality like this? Sure the media can be
>corrupt and biased at times, but I read new stories with that in mind and
>try to see through the spin. I question stuff, even my views if they are
>challenged. These people are covering up the truth without even reading
>it. I bet they've never read their bibles either.
I bet they don't read the EAP, either. ... EAP.... I wonder what it
stands for...
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
There is no EAC, so delete it from the email, if you want to communicate.
>eac...@SPAMmail.com (Yang) wrote in
>news:3ca00bff....@news.service.uci.edu:
>
>> "I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
>> said.
>>
>
>What can you expect with mentality like this? Sure the media can be
>corrupt and biased at times, but I read new stories with that in mind and
>try to see through the spin. I question stuff, even my views if they are
>challenged. These people are covering up the truth without even reading
>it. I bet they've never read their bibles either.
EAP, folks, EAP....
What I did was I took an old article about how the Catholics were
protesting about the movie "Dogma" and made a few noun changes.
However, the quote you have above was directly from that old article.
Like Harry Potter protesters, many of these people are proud to be
ignorant about the things they are protesting over.
This is typical of ingrained Catholic behavior. My mother is a
grammar and literature teacher at a Catholic school. A small cadre of
parents controls the literature she gets to teach in her classes. It
frustrates her to no end. The parents make the decisions on what will
be taught in literature class not by reading potential works and
critiquing them, but by buying a book about morality in literature and
taking that author's word for what their children should and should
not read in class. My mother is a devout Catholic and even SHE
disagrees with the parents' choices, especially in the works that they
leave out. For example, the children are forbidden to read the
Chronicles of Narnia and A Wrinkle in Time because they are "immoral,"
but Macbeth and Hamlet are OK. I hate censorship and my mom hates the
parents' choices, so I encourage her to petition the prinicpal to get
rid of the stupid rules, but it's a private school so they won't rock
the boat. Religion is the opiate of the masses.
Later,
Lisa C.
a.a #2017
> Catholic Demonstrators Say News Coverage of Priest Abuse "Another
> Example of Liberal Media Bias"
>
> New York (EAP)
Hehehehe, very funny :-)
The sad part is that I've been told that *seriously* in
es.charla.religion. I've been accused of being committing a crime of
discriminating against priests for making them accountable of child
molestation.
--
Angel Arnal, Valencia, EspaƱa aa #1443 BAAWA knave | ULC Ord. Minister
http://angelico.iespana.es maky m. #(sqrt(5)-1)/2
EAC Chairperson for Bible Translation Mess-up | Official EAC Latin Lover
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> I took 1st year high school algebra, which is all a person needs
> to know in order to prove Einstein and his disciples wrong.
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At first I thought Yang had just posted this article:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=25032002-122341-1907r
--
Fred Stone
aa # 1369; linux user # 254178; machine # 138214
Yeah. It reminded me of something I saw on TV a few years ago. A
xian protest against some book. The interviewer asked a woman if she
had read the book. Got an adament "NO!". Asked how she knew it was
bad if she hadn't even bothered to read it. Her response? "I don't
need to take arsenic to know it's poison!"
'Course the interviewer didn't point out to her that she didn't make a
point. That she no more knew that the book was arsenic than she knew
it was poison, because she hadn't read it. I bet she would have flown
into a fit if the interviewer had. She was practically foaming at the
mouth when she made that last statement.
jwk
That's funny because Santa Rosa just had a sex scandal of its own.
I don't know whether to praise you for the good satire or damn you for
giving them ideas. I wouldn't be the least surprised to see this in a
real newspaper sometime soon...
-The Jester, 774
<snip>
>I don't know whether to praise you for the good satire or damn you for
>giving them ideas. I wouldn't be the least surprised to see this in a
>real newspaper sometime soon...
>
http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=25032002-122341-1907r
"Bishop says media is 'smearing' priests "
>-The Jester, 774
--
Landis Ragon (dS = dq/T)
Chief Elf in the Toy Factory.
"I've got a little list--I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed--who never would be missed!"
-- Gilbert and Sullivan : "The Mikado"
> I bet they don't read the EAP, either. ... EAP.... I wonder what it
> stands for...
>
Just tell them Easter And Passover and tell them they don't need to read it
if they are good Christians.
> <snip>
>>I don't know whether to praise you for the good satire or damn you for
>>giving them ideas. I wouldn't be the least surprised to see this in a
>>real newspaper sometime soon...
>>
> http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=25032002-122341-1907r
> "Bishop says media is 'smearing' priests "
Boy, it's tough to do good satire and not have it turn out to be
true, isn't it?
--
The Left Reverend Plasm...@godisdead.com
Surely it was a conversation between a Muslim and a Hindu that ran:
"There is one God."
"How odd, I know of hundreds."
"My God is the only God."
"I know a dozen 'only' Gods."
There's no more proof for the existence of God than there is for the
existence of the Easter Bunny. That's right. The Easter Fucking Bunny.
-- Stryder, on alt.atheism
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:28:16 GMT, Rawley <raw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>eac...@SPAMmail.com (Yang) wrote in
>>news:3ca00bff....@news.service.uci.edu:
>>
>>> "I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
>>> said.
>>>
>>>
>>What can you expect with mentality like this? Sure the media can be
>>corrupt and biased at times, but I read new stories with that in mind
>>and try to see through the spin. I question stuff, even my views if
>>they are challenged. These people are covering up the truth without
>>even reading it. I bet they've never read their bibles either.
>
>
> EAP, folks, EAP....
You know what's scary? It's hard to *tell it's EAP instead of, oh, AP...
--
Mark K. Bilbo #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
________________________________________________________________
"The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the
simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry."
[Richard Dawkins, "Viruses of the Mind"]
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:26:30 GMT Landis D. Ragon
> <Landis...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> jest...@my-deja.com (The Jester) wrote:
>
>
>> <snip>
>
>
>>>I don't know whether to praise you for the good satire or damn you for
>>>giving them ideas. I wouldn't be the least surprised to see this in a
>>>real newspaper sometime soon...
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=25032002-122341-1907r
>
>> "Bishop says media is 'smearing' priests "
>
> Boy, it's tough to do good satire and not have it turn out to be
> true, isn't it?
I think we may well have reached the point where satirizing christianity
is bringing coals to Newcastle...
>On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:42:09 -0800, The Plasmatron wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:26:30 GMT Landis D. Ragon
>> <Landis...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>> jest...@my-deja.com (The Jester) wrote:
>>
>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>>>I don't know whether to praise you for the good satire or damn you for
>>>>giving them ideas. I wouldn't be the least surprised to see this in a
>>>>real newspaper sometime soon...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=25032002-122341-1907r
>>
>>> "Bishop says media is 'smearing' priests "
>>
>> Boy, it's tough to do good satire and not have it turn out to be
>> true, isn't it?
>
>I think we may well have reached the point where satirizing christianity
>is bringing coals to Newcastle...
From the article:
"The media charges of cover-up and intimations of complicity by the
bishops have created an atmosphere that erodes trust and faith."
Sometimes these caricatures just write themselves....
Yang wrote:
And people are still wondering why we are atheits!
>
> Yang
> a.a.#28
> rev -273.15 high priest of the most frigid church of Kelvin
> EAC mole and other furry creature
>
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
Always ready to cut themselves some slack:
"The imperfect responses of myself and other leaders in the church to
these wrongs, however understandable,..."
...while others for their flaws:
" have been highlighted and criticized throughout the media. ... The
media charges of cover-up and intimations of complicity by the bishops
have created an atmosphere that erodes trust and faith."
Had they purged the RCC of those priests at first occurrence, they'd
never faced those criticisms.
>On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:57:44 -0500, while wandering by alt.atheism,
>Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> tapped on my shoulder and told me:
>
>> Angelico wrote:
>> > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:09:40 GMT, while wandering by alt.atheism,
>> > eac...@SPAMmail.com (Yang) tapped on my shoulder and told me:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Catholic Demonstrators Say News Coverage of Priest Abuse "Another
>> >>Example of Liberal Media Bias"
>> >>
>> >>New York (EAP)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Hehehehe, very funny :-)
>> >
>> > The sad part is that I've been told that *seriously* in
>> > es.charla.religion. I've been accused of being committing a crime of
>> > discriminating against priests for making them accountable of child
>> > molestation.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> At first I thought Yang had just posted this article:
>> http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=25032002-122341-1907r
>
>Always ready to cut themselves some slack:
>
>"The imperfect responses of myself and other leaders in the church to
>these wrongs, however understandable,..."
>
>...while others for their flaws:
>
>" have been highlighted and criticized throughout the media. ... The
>media charges of cover-up and intimations of complicity by the bishops
>have created an atmosphere that erodes trust and faith."
>
>Had they purged the RCC of those priests at first occurrence, they'd
>never faced those criticisms.
Notice, that aspect of things was quickly swept under the rug.
--
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
>On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:37:59 -0800, Yang wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:28:16 GMT, Rawley <raw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>eac...@SPAMmail.com (Yang) wrote in
>>>news:3ca00bff....@news.service.uci.edu:
>>>
>>>> "I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
>>>> said.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>What can you expect with mentality like this? Sure the media can be
>>>corrupt and biased at times, but I read new stories with that in mind
>>>and try to see through the spin. I question stuff, even my views if
>>>they are challenged. These people are covering up the truth without
>>>even reading it. I bet they've never read their bibles either.
>>
>>
>> EAP, folks, EAP....
>
>You know what's scary? It's hard to *tell it's EAP instead of, oh, AP...
What's worse is occurances reported by AP, Reuters, and the like are
much wierder and wackier than EAP. :\
>
>...while others for their flaws:
>
>" have been highlighted and criticized throughout the media. ... The
>media charges of cover-up and intimations of complicity by the bishops
>have created an atmosphere that erodes trust and faith."
Well, that makes a change - the church thinking of itself - did they
even mention the victims or pay them any lip service at all?
They got caught trying to hide their shameful practises - hiding
pedophiles - and now they're trying to weasel out of it by trying to
grab the sympathy vote?
When confronted with pedophiles the church seems to cry about how it
itself has been affected. Well, fuck you buddy. Don't hide pedophiles
and no one will point out that you hid pedophiles. This isn't rocket
science to anyone else so why is the church, in it's infinite fucking
wisdom, not clued in?
Quite simply because they know they are a front and they have to
maintain that image at all costs. I guarantee that if they hadn't been
hauled over the coals for hiding pedophiles they would still be doing
it and pretending that it doesn't exist within their church. They
would still be trying to hype their "purity".
They're nothing but a bunch of colluding lying deceiving scum.
--
>> PMD aa#167
--
Jeremiah 4:6-7; Proverbs 15:1; Romans 3:10 : Matthew 5:44; Luke 19:2
http://www.hornetsnest.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk (opening soon)
>God is a solipsist >> civility = my_view*your_view/my_certainty^2
I know how the universe was created but according to my calculations
I will die before I can tell anyo..... NO CARRIER
I was wondering what people meant about irony being dead...
Sometimes I hate it when I'm right...
-The Jester, 774
>>On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:37:59 -0800, Yang wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:28:16 GMT, Rawley <raw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>eac...@SPAMmail.com (Yang) wrote in
>>>>news:3ca00bff....@news.service.uci.edu:
>>>>
>>>>> "I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
>>>>> said.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>What can you expect with mentality like this? Sure the media can be
>>>>corrupt and biased at times, but I read new stories with that in mind
>>>>and try to see through the spin. I question stuff, even my views if
>>>>they are challenged. These people are covering up the truth without
>>>>even reading it. I bet they've never read their bibles either.
>>>
>>>
>>> EAP, folks, EAP....
>>
>>You know what's scary? It's hard to *tell it's EAP instead of, oh, AP...
> What's worse is occurances reported by AP, Reuters, and the like are
> much wierder and wackier than EAP. :\
That's because the EAP, like other satire, has to restrict itself to
that which is believable. Human stupidity knows no such bounds.
Basically they EARNED that erosion of trust and faith. They deserve
not to be trusted or to have faith placed in them. They proved that with
the way they've handled these fondling priests.
>> What's worse is occurances reported by AP, Reuters, and the like are
>> much wierder and wackier than EAP. :\
>
> That's because the EAP, like other satire, has to restrict itself to
> that which is believable. Human stupidity knows no such bounds.
>
>
I wish I weren't stupid.
>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:31:52 -0800, "Mark K. Bilbo"
>> <markk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:42:09 -0800, The Plasmatron wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:26:30 GMT Landis D. Ragon
>>>> <Landis...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> jest...@my-deja.com (The Jester) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know whether to praise you for the good satire or damn you
>>>>>>for giving them ideas. I wouldn't be the least surprised to see this
>>>>>>in a real newspaper sometime soon...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.upi.com/print.cfm?StoryID=25032002-122341-1907r
>>>>
>>>>> "Bishop says media is 'smearing' priests "
>>>>
>>>> Boy, it's tough to do good satire and not have it turn out to be
>>>> true, isn't it?
>>>
>>>I think we may well have reached the point where satirizing christianity
>>>is bringing coals to Newcastle...
>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> "The media charges of cover-up and intimations of complicity by the
>> bishops have created an atmosphere that erodes trust and faith."
>>
>>
>> Sometimes these caricatures just write themselves....
> I was wondering what people meant about irony being dead...
I think they meant Irony-O-Meters. They're certainly dead....
Didja see the big factory closed? Their whole stock went up and the
building was damaged beyond repair over what the RCC has been saying
about the scandal.
Drove them totally outta business...
As I recall the explosion managed to drive their neighbors outta their
homes... Not to mention the nice glassy crater it left...
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:04:08 +0100, Angelico <esten...@terra.es> was
> seen to type in alt.atheism:
>
> >
> >...while others for their flaws:
> >
> >" have been highlighted and criticized throughout the media. ... The
> >media charges of cover-up and intimations of complicity by the bishops
> >have created an atmosphere that erodes trust and faith."
>
> Well, that makes a change - the church thinking of itself - did they
> even mention the victims or pay them any lip service at all?
Not that I've known.
> They got caught trying to hide their shameful practises - hiding
> pedophiles - and now they're trying to weasel out of it by trying to
> grab the sympathy vote?
Not surprising, don't you think? Here in Spain they were caught last
year in a financial scam, where they lost one thousand million pesetas
(over US$5 millions, 6 millions euros) of "B money" as they called it,
and then asked the faithful to make donations to help them "repairing"
the loss. After all, they were the victims of a scruple-less man who
ran away with their non-declared money. "Poor" people <sigh>.
> When confronted with pedophiles the church seems to cry about how it
> itself has been affected. Well, fuck you buddy. Don't hide pedophiles
> and no one will point out that you hid pedophiles. This isn't rocket
> science to anyone else so why is the church, in it's infinite fucking
> wisdom, not clued in?
>
> Quite simply because they know they are a front and they have to
> maintain that image at all costs. I guarantee that if they hadn't been
> hauled over the coals for hiding pedophiles they would still be doing
> it and pretending that it doesn't exist within their church. They
> would still be trying to hype their "purity".
Like they have been doing for centuries.
> They're nothing but a bunch of colluding lying deceiving scum.
I sign that too.
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:55:03 -0800 stoney <sto...@stoneynet.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:28:58 -0800, "Mark K. Bilbo"
>> <markk...@yahoo.com>, Message ID:
>> <pan.2002.03.26.19...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
>
>>>On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:37:59 -0800, Yang wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:28:16 GMT, Rawley <raw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>eac...@SPAMmail.com (Yang) wrote in
>>>>>news:3ca00bff....@news.service.uci.edu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "I don't know what the articles say, and I won't be reading them." he
>>>>>> said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>What can you expect with mentality like this? Sure the media can be
>>>>>corrupt and biased at times, but I read new stories with that in mind
>>>>>and try to see through the spin. I question stuff, even my views if
>>>>>they are challenged. These people are covering up the truth without
>>>>>even reading it. I bet they've never read their bibles either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EAP, folks, EAP....
>>>
>>>You know what's scary? It's hard to *tell it's EAP instead of, oh, AP...
>
>> What's worse is occurances reported by AP, Reuters, and the like are
>> much wierder and wackier than EAP. :\
>
> That's because the EAP, like other satire, has to restrict itself to
>that which is believable. Human stupidity knows no such bounds.
Indeed...fundamental theism in a nutsell.
Such would fit with "suffer the children to come to me...."
Not to mention that we lost the new stealth black helicopter with alien
technology plant.
Our current fleet is getting *old.
That *is* a bummer. I guess it's time for someone to head over to
Area 51 and kidnap those aliens and steal their technology again.
Kidnap them? Somebody hasn't been attending staff meetings. We ARE the
"aliens." We do the kidnapping!
Area 51 ain't shit. It just where we keep the extra rubber chickens...
Yes, we do the kidnapping. Hence the "Heading over to Area 51" and
"Kidnapping some aliens to steal their technology" <wink wink nudge nudge>
> Area 51 ain't shit. It just where we keep the extra rubber chickens...
Gah! You can't *tell* people that on an open forum like this! Do you
know how much trouble we go to to make sure people think that the EAC does
not exist and that those UFOs and such are aliens? And here you go and
blow our cover. Amatures.