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Mike Lovell

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On 2012-09-04, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Yep, you're an agnostic.
>>
>>I *know* I am, geeeez.
>>
>>Skull thick enough?
>
> Just so long as you acknowledge that you are not atheist.

Nope, I'm an agnostic-atheist.

Learning what they each mean would be a good start.

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Mike Lovell

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Oct 4, 2012, 1:42:30 PM10/4/12
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On 2012-09-03, "there" <"there"> wrote:
> Some is to distinguish those who have the spine of their convictions to say
> directly there is no God. Others dilly dally and squirm and hide behind
> rhetorical toys in spineless conceptual irrelevance.
>
> You have been outed.

And if it's not my conviction that there is no God, it means I have no
spine, even though I'm making the same strength statement of my convictions?

Hrm, okay :-)

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"same"

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Does God exist?

Mike Lovell

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On 2012-10-04, "same" <"same"> wrote:
> Does God exist?

I don't know, I don't believe he does.

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"same"

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Oct 4, 2012, 2:56:50 PM10/4/12
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> Does God exist?

"I don't know, I don't believe he does."

Good, this is an improvement from before. And you have presented the full
and final answer for the agnostic that they have no way to know and must
believe on the basis of blind faith when taken to its logical end.

Mike Lovell

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Oct 4, 2012, 3:06:02 PM10/4/12
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On 2012-10-04, "same" <"same"> wrote:
Nah it's the same answer.

Yes I am an agnostic, an agnostic atheist.

What exactly am I taking in blind faith? I have no belief. Did you not
see above where I said I don't believe? I think you are confused. You
equate the lack of something with the presence of something.

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"equate"

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Oct 4, 2012, 3:30:58 PM10/4/12
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>> Does God exist?
>
> "I don't know, I don't believe he does."
>
> Good, this is an improvement from before. And you have presented the
full
> and final answer for the agnostic that they have no way to know and must
> believe on the basis of blind faith when taken to its logical end.

"Nah it's the same answer.

Yes I am an agnostic, an agnostic atheist."

What evr rhetorical embroidery floats your boat, go for it.

"What exactly am I taking in blind faith? I have no belief. Did you not
see above where I said I don't believe? I think you are confused. You
equate the lack of something with the presence of something."

"I don't know"; "I don't believe"; the latter a logical extension of the
former.

I don't equate anything with anything but what you present. I just use the
logical extension of your faith statement. Having no basis to "know" then
it is a blind faith statement.

Mike Lovell

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On 2012-10-04, "equate" <"equate"> wrote:
>> Nah it's the same answer.
>>
>> Yes I am an agnostic, an agnostic atheist.
>
> What evr rhetorical embroidery floats your boat, go for it.

Reality floats my boat.

>> What exactly am I taking in blind faith? I have no belief. Did you not
>> see above where I said I don't believe? I think you are confused. You
>> equate the lack of something with the presence of something.
>
> "I don't know"; "I don't believe"; the latter a logical extension of the
> former.

Your own logic (flawed) and your own extension.

i.e. nothing I've said.

Or to go further along this path, a lie.

> I don't equate anything with anything but what you present. I just use the
> logical extension of your faith statement. Having no basis to "know" then
> it is a blind faith statement.

To make an extension of my "faith statement" I would first have had to
made one.

So you've not only extended from a non-existent faith statement, you've
apparently extended what I said to include one.

An extension on an extension.


Talk about clutching at straws! :-)

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"talk-"

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Oct 4, 2012, 5:06:58 PM10/4/12
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>> Yes I am an agnostic, an agnostic atheist.
>
> What evr rhetorical embroidery floats your boat, go for it.

"Reality floats my boat."

Your reality is already confessed regarding the topic, you don't "know" and
"believe".

>> What exactly am I taking in blind faith? I have no belief. Did you not
>> see above where I said I don't believe? I think you are confused. You
>> equate the lack of something with the presence of something.
>
> "I don't know"; "I don't believe"; the latter a logical extension of the
> former.

"Your own logic (flawed) and your own extension.

i.e. nothing I've said.

Or to go further along this path, a lie."

Yup, already confessed, an empty reality on your part of don't "know" and
"believe".

> I don't equate anything with anything but what you present. I just use
the
> logical extension of your faith statement. Having no basis to "know"
then
> it is a blind faith statement.

"To make an extension of my "faith statement" I would first have had to
made one."

Yup, you did, don't "know" and "believe". Without basis to "know" you
"blieve, as fine a faith statement as you can make.

"So you've not only extended from a non-existent faith statement, you've
apparently extended what I said to include one.

An extension on an extension."

As said, whatever rhetorical embroidery needed to get you through the day,
go for it.

Here I thought we had seen a conversion on your part, leave the rhetorical
toys and set your faith statement to what you "know" and "believe". More
work needed it appears to help you along on your life journy of faith.

"Talk about clutching at straws! :-)"

I can only grasp what you present, you don't "know" and you "believe".
Wouldn't this make you clutching at rhetorical straws? I have no dog in
your journy of faith, I can only reflect your faith statement as you
present it.

Mike Lovell

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Oct 4, 2012, 5:25:59 PM10/4/12
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On 2012-10-04, "talk-" <"talk-"> wrote:
>> "Reality floats my boat."
>
> Your reality is already confessed regarding the topic, you don't "know" and
> "believe".

What can you do with someone that is so dishonest.

I *don't* "know" and I *don't* "believe"

So you're getting better, 50% true.

> Yup, already confessed, an empty reality on your part of don't "know" and
> "believe".

The lie is repeated.

>> I don't equate anything with anything but what you present. I just use
> the
>> logical extension of your faith statement. Having no basis to "know"
> then
>> it is a blind faith statement.
>
> "To make an extension of my "faith statement" I would first have had to
> made one."
>
> Yup, you did, don't "know" and "believe". Without basis to "know" you
> "blieve, as fine a faith statement as you can make.

The lie is repeated again.

> [...]

Do you want to try again but this time based on things I say, rather
than things I didn't say.

If your argument cannot stand without all these lies, perhaps it's not
as good as you think it is.

LOL

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"good-"

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> Yup, you did, don't "know" and "believe". Without basis to "know" you
> "blieve, as fine a faith statement as you can make.

The lie is repeated again.


"Do you want to try again but this time based on things I say, rather than
things I didn't say.

If your argument cannot stand without all these lies, perhaps it's not as
good as you think it is."

I have no argument, I have only the role to reflect for you mirror wise
your statement of faith. You don't "know", and you "believe". If you want
to now change your faith statement, then be about doing so.

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 4, 2012, 7:46:28 PM10/4/12
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:40:16 -0500, Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com>
wrote:

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>On 2012-09-06, Steve Wilson <stevewi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Where did I say such a thing?
>>
>> Say? It is my observation of your interaction with me [...]
>
>So I didn't say it. Thanks :-)
>
>Is it so hard to stop lying?

Not for this loonie.

Mike Lovell

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On 2012-10-04, "good-" <"good-"> wrote:
>> If your argument cannot stand without all these lies, perhaps it's not as
>> good as you think it is."
>
> I have no argument [...]

Agreed :-)

I made no statement of faith in anything, you really-really wish I did,
and that's quite amusing.

You're red in the face about it. He-he.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
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https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
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...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 25 oz of a fabulous array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

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Don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

Uirgil

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In article
<5d3a837a-3347-44c0...@a17g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Better compassionate and wise like an Ayoob than arrogant and dumb like
a Chung!


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition Clinic
at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛


So Chung would have those poor kids going to school hungry and thus
being disruptive and less able to learn.

Ayoob is right and Chunk is wrong!

Uirgil

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In article <iq8u68tl2juunqkte...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Better compassionate and wise like an Ayoob than arrogant and dumb like
a Chung!


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition Clinic
at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Kelsey Bjarnason

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On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:41:15 -0500, Mike Lovell wrote:

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> On 2012-09-04, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Yep, you're an agnostic.
>>>
>>>I *know* I am, geeeez.
>>>
>>>Skull thick enough?
>>
>> Just so long as you acknowledge that you are not atheist.
>
> Nope, I'm an agnostic-atheist.
>
> Learning what they each mean would be a good start.

Duke learn? That would be a divine miracle... I thought you were an
atheist? :)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
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Uirgil

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In article
<0f13a67c-8998-4583...@l32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Better compassionate and wise like an Ayoob than arrogant and dumb like
a Chung!


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition Clinic
at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 25 oz of a tasty array of
different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uirgil

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In article <n8i178pusj0l4t6fq...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

BE an Ayoob!


Better to be compassionate and wise like an Ayoob than arrogant and dumb
like a Chung!


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition Clinic
at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese Ameican physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a delightful array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

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In article
<5263757c-cfd3-490e...@w3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

Better to be one than to be a Chung!
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren¹t the problem.
³There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,² he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. ³School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they¹re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.²
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
³We don¹t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,² he said. ³A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.²
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/

So by opposing Ayoob, Chung reveals that HE wants to sent children to
classes without having any breakfasts.
This is well known to be detrimental, both to those children and to the
classes they are in.

Uirgil

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Oct 7, 2012, 6:43:30 PM10/7/12
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In article <j9p378p5g6lboi6dp...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier

Not for children that Chung would force to go to classes without any
breakfast.

And Ayoob would prevent that evil wheras Chung would impose it.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 8, 2012, 2:21:19 PM10/8/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a tasty array of
different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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Oct 8, 2012, 7:52:10 PM10/8/12
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In article
<adf12f06-8a3b-4aa0...@z8g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children in classrooms. Hungry Children do not learn
well and disrupt the leraing of others.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren�t the problem.
�There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a �positive outcomes,� he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. �School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they�re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.�
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
�We don�t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,� he said. �A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.�
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

Uergil

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In article <a76678degb4bdvncg...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:



> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 9, 2012, 4:33:51 PM10/9/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a marvelous array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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Oct 9, 2012, 9:18:20 PM10/9/12
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In article
<2af53b33-0982-446f...@i14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Uergil

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Oct 9, 2012, 9:19:38 PM10/9/12
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In article <ed2978tb1iqpdr41c...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:


> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Oct 10, 2012, 10:35:07 AM10/10/12
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On 10/10/2012 5:47 AM, sightwalker with a phd said:
> This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious

Enjoy this sightwalker,
http://www.twincities.com/national/ci_21736679/death-florida-roach-eating-contest-winner-remains-mystery
true Chinese cuisine...

Jimmy Alpha GeD

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:10:53 PM10/10/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a delightful
array of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 10, 2012, 3:46:45 PM10/10/12
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In article <k548o4$csh$1...@news.datemas.de>,
Jimmy Alpha GeD <jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote:

> http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/


Wow. The conspiracy theories get crazier and crazier every day.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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Oct 10, 2012, 4:55:55 PM10/10/12
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On 10/10/2012 3:46 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article<k548o4$csh$1...@news.datemas.de>,
> Jimmy Alpha GeD<jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/
>
>
> Wow. The conspiracy theories get crazier and crazier every day.

lol, that's jimmy

chris haskett

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wrote:

> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
> and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
> and child killer.

Uergil

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Oct 11, 2012, 12:45:49 AM10/11/12
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In article
<777df25a-dc35-4aa7...@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Why not, when Ayoob was the good guy and ABChung is a dirty old man.

Uergil

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Oct 11, 2012, 12:49:49 AM10/11/12
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In article <ethb78hnrr03rcc48...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But NOT for school children while in classes. Hungry children in classes
don't learn themselves and keep other from learning as well.

An un-breakfasted hungry child student cannot do as well in class and
too often disrupts others because of his or her hunger, so for Chung to
advocate hunger over instead of breakfasts for such student children is
immoral, irresponsible, and unChristian.

And that Chung keeps repeating his immoral claims is even more
unChristian of him.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix."

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 10/10/2012 3:46 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article<k548o4$csh$1...@news.datemas.de>,
> Jimmy Alpha GeD<jimmy...@operamail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/
>
>
> Wow. The conspiracy theories get crazier and crazier every day.


> The Dictator EXECUTIVE ORDERS ISSUED�

> Teddy Roosevelt 3

> From Teddy to FDR--NONE

> FDR 11 in 16 years

> Truman 5 in 7 years

> Ike 2 in 8 years

> Kennedy 4 in 3 years

> LBJ 4 in 5 years

> Nixon 1 in 6 years

> Ford 3 in 2 years

> Carter 3 in 4 years

> Reagan 5 in 8 years

> Bush 3 in 4 years

> Clinton 15 in 8 years = 96 months�96 divided by 15 = 6.4 per month.

> George W. Bush 62 in 8 years = 96 months�96 divided by 62=1.5 per month.

> Obama 923 in 3 1/2 years = 42 months---923 divided by 42 = 21.9 per
month!

> Executive Orders .... where's the media?>

> If you don't get the implications, you're not paying attention.
How many warnings do you need?

> 923 Executive Orders in 40 Months

> During my lifetime, all Presidents have issued Executive Orders,
for reasons, some more than others.

> When a President issued as many as 30 Ex. Orders during a term in office,

> people thought there was something amiss.

> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 923 EX. ORDERS IN JUST A PART OF ONE TERM?

> YES, THERE IS A REASON. IT IS THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS
DETERMINED TO TAKE CONTROL AWAY FROM THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

> Even some Democrats in the House have turned on him,
plus a very small number of Democrat Senators question him.

> HE SHOULD BE QUESTIONED. WHAT IS HE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH???

> DOES THIS SCARE YOU?

> Have you given any thought of his appointment of "Czars" to be in
charge of everything.

> Emperor Obama? President for life?

> THIS IS NOT FUNNY, AND IF YOU VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN,
YOU CAN EXPECT MORE OF THE SAME�ONLY INCREASED!>

> Do you remember what he told Russia's Putin:
"I'll be more flexible after I'm re-elected."

> THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION: Obama has signed 923 Executive Orders in 40
months!

> What did Congress do in those 40 months? (The House - considerable.
The Senate-nothing, not even a budget, nor allowing any House bill to
be considered.)

> A whole new administration must prevail in Washington,
DC as a result of this next election!

> Now�Have a REFLECTIVE look at these EXECUTIVE ORDERS�.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over
all modes of Transportation and control of highways and seaports.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the
Communication media.>

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all
electrical power,
gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food
resources and farms.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize
civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health,
education and welfare functions.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General,
of all people, to operate a national registration program.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all
airports and aircraft,
including commercial aircraft.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to
relocate communities,
build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned,
and establish new locations for populations.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads,
inland waterways and public storage facilities.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to
federal departments and agencies,
consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen
year period.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the
Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all
Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international
tensions and economic or financial crisis.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice
to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute
industrial support,
to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens,
to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and
assist the President.

> -EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency
to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of
production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries,
credit and the flow of money in U.S. Financial institution in any
undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of
emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the
action for six months.

> Feel free to verify the "executive orders" at will... And these are
just the

> Major ones I'm sure you've all heard the tale of the "Frog in the
Pot"...
Are you all comfortable???

> Watch Obama's actions, not his words! By his actions
he will show you where America is headed.

> . Just this week, Obama has issued a new executive order that seeks to

> "harmonize" U.S. Economic regulations with the rest of the world.
This new executive order is yet another incremental step that
is pushing us closer to a North American Union and a one world
economic system.

> Unfortunately, most Americans have absolutely no idea what is happening.

> The American people need to understand that Barack Obama is
constantly looking for ways to integrate the United States more
deeply with the rest of the world.

> The globalization of the world economy has accelerated under Obama,
and this latest executive order represents a fundamental change in
U.S. economic policy.

> Now federal regulators will be required to "harmonize" their work
with the
international community.

> Stay Stupid My Friends!
This "Administration" Is Counting On It.


Happy Oyster

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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:31:03 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety


Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung will continue with his crimes until someone
shows up and nails him to the wall. There once was such an incident.
Chung babbles about it. But he does not say, WHY he was beaten.

Not all fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, oncles, aunts, ... will
stay silent and do nothing. One day, one of the relatives of a victim
will stand up...

If the legal system messes up, like it does for years now, then the
private affairs will happen. And THAT is the guilt of the legal system.


Murderers like Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung must be stopped by the legal
system!
--

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Happy Oyster

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Uergil

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Oct 11, 2012, 4:33:46 PM10/11/12
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In article
<78811825-0ff7-467e...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 11, 2012, 5:57:18 PM10/11/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 25 oz of a delightful
array of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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In article <uafe785lrusdvf3tf...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Uergil

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In article
<5dcc8a0a-62e9-4618...@e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a marvelous array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Happy Oyster

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<ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

>and Author of

"author" of an online deathlist with over 260 names on it.

Uergil

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In article <i90h789991o9r48ps...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Fred^4

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Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:47:05 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
><ach...@emory.edu> wrote:
>>and Author of
>"author" of an online deathlist with over 260 names on it.

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Uergil

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In article
<76ff6ba8-9505-4b6d...@4g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob

Whyever not, when Ayoob is right and Chung is wrong about breakfasts for
school children?

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 13, 2012, 5:25:08 PM10/13/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a tasty array of
different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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In article <ltmj781l2592o9vl5...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

chris haskett

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wrote:
,
>
> Andrew
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
> and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
> and child killer

Uergil

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In article
<ddc14044-f0f4-4758...@q16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 14, 2012, 5:36:10 PM10/14/12
to
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a delightful
array of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Jimmy Alpha GeD

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On 10/10/2012 3:46 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article<k548o4$csh$1...@news.datemas.de ,
Jimmy Alpha GeD<jimmy...@operamail.com wrote:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/


Wow. The conspiracy theories get crazier and crazier every day.


IN GOD WE TRUST

This could happen

Food for Thought

Just got this and it bears out the importance of
going to the polls and voting in November.




wlmailhtml:{41E7020E-B892-44E1-8864-2C550CA2F6F7}mid://00000043/

ERIC HOLDER...SUPREME COURT
JUSTICE IN 2013???

CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THIS
EMAIL GOING!

If you are not wide-awake now,
you will be when you have finished reading this!!!!!



Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives
us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming
presidential election: appointments to the Supreme Court .



"I will enthusiastically support
Mitt Romney's candidacy.

For my friends who have
hesitation on that score,

I’d just ask you to keep these
things in mind...

1. Justice Scalia is 78.

2. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later
this year.

3. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August.

4. Justice Ginsburg is 81. She also
has pancreatic cancer.

5. Justice Stephens has already said
he would retire and is just waiting for Obama to be re-elected.



The next president could appoint as many as 5
new Justices over the next 4 years, or over the next 8 years if a new
President gets a second term. This election is about much more than the
ObamaCare Tax. Whomever we elect as president in November is almost
certainly going to choose at least one new member of the Supreme Court,
in addition to hundreds of other life tenured federal judges, all of
whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to
come."

If you don’t think it matters whether the guy
making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, THINK AGAIN!

FOR ANYONE WHO IS THINKING OF NOT VOTING
BECAUSE YOUR FAVORITE DIDN'T GET THE NOMINATION, OR WRITING IN A
CANDIDATE WHO CAN'T WIN, PLEASE REALIZE THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN IF THE MARXIST EXTREMIST, BARACK OBAMA, GETS RE-ELECTED:

ERIC HOLDER, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE!!!!!



After you have stopped gasping because of this
horror, kindly send this to every rational person you know!!!!!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 15, 2012, 2:29:16 PM10/15/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a tasty array of
different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Joe Bruno

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On Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:42:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
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> >>> Yep, you're an agnostic.
>
> >>
>
> >>I *know* I am, geeeez.
>
> >>
>
> >>Skull thick enough?
>
> >
>
> > Just so long as you acknowledge that you are not atheist.
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> Nope, I'm an agnostic-atheist.
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> Learning what they each mean would be a good start.
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Почему вы не отвечаете на вопросы на русском я отправил на alt.atheism?

Joe Bruno

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Translation:Why don't you answer the questions on the Russian language
I have posted for you on alt.atheism?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Uergil

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In article
<7a792656-fdf2-4155...@j18g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 16, 2012, 11:08:38 AM10/16/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a fabulous array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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In article <4vtq78ls3174eiinl...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

BE AN AYOOB

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes as Ayoob points out.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

BroilJAB

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Do not lose Pascalian wager.

Tim

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Do not lose Pascalian wager.

--------------------
Ergo we should all bow down to Russell's Teapot or Adams's Great
Arkleseizure or Zeus or It That Shall Remain Nameless or .... . So which one
is it pickle dick and how could you possibly know?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a tasty array of
different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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In article
<c2f0ea16-a052-419d...@b8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Uergil

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In article <bd1u785ioff4tt18k...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Uergil

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BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Do not lose Pascalian wager.

Those who bet on that wager, regardless of which way, would end up
damned anyway!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 18, 2012, 2:36:35 PM10/18/12
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Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a marvelous array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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Oct 18, 2012, 3:56:42 PM10/18/12
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In article
<9ab2729a-dd4d-4d55...@o5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.

Uergil

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Oct 18, 2012, 3:57:23 PM10/18/12
to
In article <ksi088tm74tu1snmb...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> on't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 19, 2012, 6:37:34 AM10/19/12
to
This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

John H. Gohde

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Oct 19, 2012, 7:13:28 AM10/19/12
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On Oct 5, 7:41 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com>
wrote:
> This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
> of foods yesterday and ishttp://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrywhile
> really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
> with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing tohttp://WDYJW.net/BeHungry
> which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue tohttp://WDMJW.net/BeWise
> about this.
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
> and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?


Don't be a Sap. Eat a real diet!

http://tinyurl.com/clkekzt

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 19, 2012, 11:47:40 AM10/19/12
to
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a fantastic array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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Oct 19, 2012, 4:22:05 PM10/19/12
to
In article
<1a2c2d9e-664f-44f2...@m4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Uergil

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Oct 19, 2012, 4:22:51 PM10/19/12
to
In article <uct288924g4fe2v5j...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 20, 2012, 12:06:44 AM10/20/12
to
This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Uergil

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Oct 20, 2012, 12:30:35 AM10/20/12
to
In article
<e56f6ddf-256a-4c1a...@c17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

unread,
Oct 20, 2012, 6:42:23 PM10/20/12
to
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a tasty array of
different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

Do you know how much you have eaten so far for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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Oct 20, 2012, 10:34:28 PM10/20/12
to
In article <ns9688habl6pi659b...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But being hungrier is not good for school children when going to classes.
Hungry kids mess up their classes, badly!

If you want them hungrier, wait till AFTER school hours.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children adequate
breakfasts before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren't the problem.
"There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a positive outcomes," he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. "School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they're eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home."
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
"We don't want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating," he said. "A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 21, 2012, 12:23:48 AM10/21/12
to
This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

Uergil

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Oct 21, 2012, 2:42:05 AM10/21/12
to
In article
<e5b1bb7a-f1b6-4e63...@u17g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob:

Unless you want to help children cope with school. Which Ayoob is trying
to do, but Chung is trying to stop him from doing.

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 21, 2012, 4:37:11 PM10/21/12
to
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
>of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
>really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
>with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
>which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
>about this.

This chinese American physician has enjoyed 24 oz of a fabulous array
of different foods so far for today and is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier looking forward to his next meal.

DO you know how much you have eaten so for today?

If not, why not?

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Uergil

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Oct 21, 2012, 7:37:51 PM10/21/12
to
In article <dum888hfh95sfufb0...@4ax.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote:

> Don't be an Ayoob


>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children in their school classes.

When school children in their classes are hungry, they are disruptive of
those classes

So BE an Ayoob, and like Ayoob, support giving all school children an
adequate breakfast before school.

If Chung wants to keep kids without breakfasts, let him do it with only
his own kids and leave other peoples kids out of his delusions.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 22, 2012, 5:29:24 AM10/22/12
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This gentile Christian disciple enjoyed 32 oz of a delicious variety
of foods yesterday and is http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungry while
really satisfied (Lk6:21a) knowing that the LORD provided his body
with all the needed good food and his mind with knowing to http://WDJW.net/BeHungry
which are words from His mouth (Dt8:3). Let us continue to http://WDJW.net/BeWise
about this.

BGK

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Oct 22, 2012, 5:55:15 AM10/22/12
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Andy sees a psychiatrist...

Psychiatrist: "Andy, you're insane"

Andy: "I demand a second opinion"

Psychiatrist: "You also look like a girl"
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