ADF supports Arizona abortion law

[J]

Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers, only a heartless
sadist would oppose this law.










http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/10/12/adf-supports-arizona-abortion-law/









Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) attorneys filed a brief Wednesday with
the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of a doctors group that
supports Arizona’s new law banning non-emergency abortions after the
point at which preborn children can begin feeling pain.

“This brief is intended to educate the court and the public about the
reality that babies feel pain during an abortion as early as 20 weeks
into a pregnancy,” said ADF Senior Counsel Steven H. Aden.

Gov. Jan Brewer signed H.B. 2036 into law in April; it was set to take
effect in August. But in July, the Center for Reproductive Rights and
the American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit, saying it is
unconstitutional.

A federal district court upheld the law in late July — but four days
later, the 9th Circuit of blocked its implementation as the case
proceeds. A hearing date has not been set.

ADF filed the amicus brief for Doctors on Fetal Pain, an unincorporated
association of physicians and medical researchers who advocate for legal
protections for preborn children.

The brief is designed to assist the appeals court in understanding the
evidence supporting the existence of fetal pain, and its relevance in
regulating abortions at or after 20 weeks of pregnancy, according to
court documents.

“Not only does this law protect children in the womb who experience
horrific pain during late-term abortion,” Aden said, “it also protects
mothers from the dangers and tremendous psychological consequences of
late-term abortions.”










--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

http://www.americandecency.org/

[Syd M.]

On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,

Nope.
Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.

[Athos Porthos and Aramis]

You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.

[SkyEyes]

On Oct 15, 10:42 pm, Athos Porthos and Aramis

Aborted embryos do *not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
hooked up and functioning fully until shortly before natural birth.
The embryos are not conscious and not sentient. They don't know
they're alive, and they don't know they're being aborted. Not
existing does *not* hurt.

And as for a woman keeping her panties on, you do *not* have the right
to dictate the terms of other people's sex lives. You specifically do
*not* get to punish women for having sex by forcing them to remain
pregnant when they do not want to be.

When you finally have a relationship with a real woman instead of with
a blow-up doll, you'll understand this. I'm not holding my breath
waiting for that to happen, however.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

[Dakota]

ADF is the hate group known as Alliance Defending Freedom. It's
interesting that bigots need an alliance to defend their freedom to hate.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <k5is47$706$2...@wieslauf.sub.de>,

How can a man have an abortion?

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Don Martin]

Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <k5is47$706$2...@wieslauf.sub.de>,
> Athos Porthos and Aramis <deb...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:
>
>> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:
>>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>>
>> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
>> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>
> How can a man have an abortion?

Well, we might experiment on this one to find out. I have some power
tools.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

[Don Martin]

Athos Porthos and Aramis <deb...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:

And eggs are chickens. Learn something about embryology, dummie.

[MarkA]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 -0700, J wrote:

>
> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers, only a heartless
> sadist would oppose this law.
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/10/12/adf-supports-arizona-abortion-law/
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
> Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) attorneys filed a brief Wednesday with
> the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of a doctors group that
> supports Arizona's new law banning non-emergency abortions after the
> point at which preborn children can begin feeling pain.

What a stupid law, considering that it is impossible to determine when a
fetus is able to feel pain.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

[Dino]

On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> http://www.americandecency.org/

Only a buffoon would not support this law. It's a sensible law, for
either people who stand on either side of the issue.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
> Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
> hooked up

Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
unborn feel.

I think you'd do well dipped in a vat of muriatic acid.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/16/2012 1:35 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article<k5is47$706$2...@wieslauf.sub.de>,
> Athos Porthos and Aramis<deb...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:
>
>> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:
>>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>>
>> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
>> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>
> How can a man have an abortion?
>

How can a bitch like you even draw breath?

[Dino]

On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'

Be careful or she will accuse you of interfering in other women's
lives because you made a posting in a social newsgroup.
She somehow thinks that if you make postings in social media
newsgroups, it's the same thing as interfering in women's lives.

Go figure.

[Dakota]

On 10/16/2012 9:17 AM, MarkA wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 -0700, J wrote:
>>
>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers, only a heartless
>> sadist would oppose this law.
>>
>> http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/10/12/adf-supports-arizona-abortion-law/
>>
>> Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) attorneys filed a brief Wednesday with
>> the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of a doctors group that
>> supports Arizona's new law banning non-emergency abortions after the
>> point at which preborn children can begin feeling pain.
>
> What a stupid law, considering that it is impossible to determine when a
> fetus is able to feel pain.
>

The woman-hating, ludicrously named Alliance Defending Freedom is one
of the many hate groups J endorses.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/16/2012 10:38 AM, Dino wrote:
> On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>>
>>> Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
>>> hooked up
>>
>> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
>> unborn feel.
>>
>> I think you'd do well dipped in a vat of muriatic acid.
>
> Be careful or she will accuse you of interfering in other women's
> lives because you made a posting in a social newsgroup.

Really?

> She somehow thinks that if you make postings in social media
> newsgroups, it's the same thing as interfering in women's lives.
>
> Go figure.
>

Wow, just wow...

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <k5k1ed$jkg$2...@dont-email.me>,

Ahhhh, yet another fool confessing that he knows he has no argument.

[Seth lePod]

On Oct 16, 9:38 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
>
> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>

:
> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
> > Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
> > hooked up

:
> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
> unborn feel.

Oh look, an atavism who hollers "witch" when confronted
with this new-fangled "science" thingey. Is this Ren
Fair?

But hey: if you'd care to explain how it's possible to
have nervous functioning without a developed nervous
system -- well, here's your big chance.

Here, use this convenient space:

*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*


Seth

[Seth lePod]

On Oct 16, 11:18 am, private sector's doing 'fine'

<whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 10:38 AM, Dino wrote:
>
> > On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
> > <whislt...@grave.yd>  wrote:
> >> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>
> >>> Aborted embryos do*not*  feel pain.  The neurological system is not
> >>> hooked up
>
> >> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
> >> unborn feel.
>
> >> I think you'd do well dipped in a vat of muriatic acid.
>

:
> > Be careful or she will accuse you of interfering in other women's
> > lives because you made a posting in a social newsgroup.

:
> Really?

Nope. Not really.

Really. Not.


Seth

[SkyEyes]

On Oct 16, 9:19 am, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>
wrote:

> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>
> > Aborted embryos do*not*  feel pain.  The neurological system is not
> > hooked up
>
> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
> unborn feel.

I've got one *hell* of a better handle on it than you do, asswipe.

>
> I think you'd do well dipped in a vat of muriatic acid.

Go ahead. Try it.

[SkyEyes]

On Oct 16, 4:46 am, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <k5is47$70...@wieslauf.sub.de>,

> >  Athos Porthos and Aramis <deba...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:
>
> >> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:
> >>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com>  wrote:
> >>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>
> >>> Nope.
> >>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>
> >> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
> >> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>
> > How can a man have an abortion?
>
> Well, we might experiment on this one to find out.  I have some power
> tools.

And I have a rusty grapefruit spoon to contribute....

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/16/2012 9:41 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
> On Oct 16, 9:19 am, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>>
>>> Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
>>> hooked up
>>
>> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
>> unborn feel.
>
> I've got one *hell* of a better handle on it than you do, asswipe.

Fuck off, baby killer.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/16/2012 9:07 PM, Seth lePod wrote:
> On Oct 16, 11:18 am, private sector's doing 'fine'
> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>> On 10/16/2012 10:38 AM, Dino wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
>>> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>>
>>>>> Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
>>>>> hooked up
>>
>>>> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
>>>> unborn feel.
>>
>>>> I think you'd do well dipped in a vat of muriatic acid.
>>
>
> :
>>> Be careful or she will accuse you of interfering in other women's
>>> lives because you made a posting in a social newsgroup.
>
> :
>> Really?
>
> Nope. Not really.
>
> Really. Not.

ESAD.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/16/2012 9:06 PM, Seth lePod wrote:
> On Oct 16, 9:38 am, Dino<whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
>>
>> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>>
>
> :
>> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>>> Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
>>> hooked up
>
> :
>> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
>> unborn feel.
>
> Oh look, an atavism

Die soon, ok?

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/16/2012 6:46 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article<k5k1ed$jkg$2...@dont-email.me>,

> private sector's doing 'fine'<whis...@grave.yd> wrote:
>
>> On 10/16/2012 1:35 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article<k5is47$706$2...@wieslauf.sub.de>,
>>> Athos Porthos and Aramis<deb...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>>>>
>>>> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
>>>> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>>>
>>> How can a man have an abortion?
>>>
>> How can a bitch like you even draw breath?
>
> Ahhhh, yet another fool

NO bitch, you FAIL, every time.

[skye...@yahoo.com]

On Oct 16, 9:30 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 9:06 PM, Seth lePod wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 16, 9:38 am, Dino<whate...@homemail.com>  wrote:
> >> On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
>
> >> <whislt...@grave.yd>  wrote:
>
> > :
> >> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
> >>> Aborted embryos do*not*  feel pain.  The neurological system is not
> >>> hooked up
>
> > :
> >> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
> >> unborn feel.
>
> > Oh look, an atavism
>
> Die soon, ok?

But-but-but *we* thought you were so PRO-LIFE!!!!

Guess not.

[skye...@yahoo.com]

On Oct 16, 9:30 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 9:41 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>
> > On Oct 16, 9:19 am, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> > wrote:
> >> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>
> >>> Aborted embryos do*not*  feel pain.  The neurological system is not
> >>> hooked up
>
> >> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
> >> unborn feel.
>
> > I've got one *hell* of a better handle on it than you do, asswipe.
>
> Fuck off, baby killer.

Make me, asswipe. As the old sayin' goes, "If you wanna run with the
big dogs, better learn to piss in the tall grass."

[skye...@yahoo.com]

On Oct 16, 9:19 am, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>
wrote:

> On 10/16/2012 1:35 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:> In article<k5is47$70...@wieslauf.sub.de>,
> >   Athos Porthos and Aramis<deba...@noteleprompter.ru>  wrote:

>
> >> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:
> >>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com>   wrote:
> >>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>
> >>> Nope.
> >>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>
> >> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
> >> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>
> > How can a man have an abortion?
>
> How can a bitch like you even draw breath?

My, my. Such intelligent, substantive comments you make. Your mother
must be *so* proud.

On second thought, I bet she wishes she had aborted *you*.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/17/2012 3:03 AM, skye...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Oct 16, 9:30 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> wrote:
>> On 10/16/2012 9:06 PM, Seth lePod wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 16, 9:38 am, Dino<whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 16, 12:19 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
>>
>>>> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>>
>>> :
>>>> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>>>>> Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
>>>>> hooked up
>>
>>> :
>>>> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
>>>> unborn feel.
>>
>>> Oh look, an atavism
>>
>> Die soon, ok?
>
> But-but-but *we* thought you were so PRO-LIFE!!!!
>
> Guess not.

Yours?

No.

Terrorists like you should die.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/17/2012 3:04 AM, skye...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Oct 16, 9:30 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> wrote:
>> On 10/16/2012 9:41 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 16, 9:19 am, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>>
>>>>> Aborted embryos do*not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
>>>>> hooked up
>>
>>>> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
>>>> unborn feel.
>>
>>> I've got one *hell* of a better handle on it than you do, asswipe.
>>
>> Fuck off, baby killer.
>
> Make me, asswipe.

Gladly, terrorist.

ARIZONA, PHOENIX
33.44838, -112.07404
COX COMMUNICATIONS
Renaissance Square
Phoenix, AZ 85004 180 ft NW

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/17/2012 3:04 AM, skye...@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Oct 16, 9:19 am, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> wrote:
>> On 10/16/2012 1:35 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:> In article<k5is47$70...@wieslauf.sub.de>,
>>> Athos Porthos and Aramis<deba...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>>
>>>> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
>>>> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>>
>>> How can a man have an abortion?
>>
>> How can a bitch like you even draw breath?
>
> My, my. Such intelligent,

[Don Martin]

SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Oct 16, 4:46 am, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article <k5is47$70...@wieslauf.sub.de>,
>>> Athos Porthos and Aramis <deba...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>>
>>>> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
>>>> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>>
>>> How can a man have an abortion?
>>
>> Well, we might experiment on this one to find out. I have some power
>> tools.
>
> And I have a rusty grapefruit spoon to contribute....

Keep some grapefruit juice as an antiseptic.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <k5mmoq$cbe$1...@dont-email.me>,

Does this moron think he's outing you somehow, Brenda?

[private sector's doing 'fine']

Did the terrorist threats you two made about blowing up a statue in
California come home to roost yet?

[james g. keegan jr.]

In article
<491c657f-b90a-47c0...@s18g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
bobby heishman posting as Dino <what...@homemail.com> wrote:

[...]

> Be careful or she will accuse you of interfering in other women's
> lives because you made a posting in a social newsgroup.
> She somehow thinks that if you make postings in social media
> newsgroups, it's the same thing as interfering in women's lives.

are you referring to the time you spent in drag trolling for men, bobby?

[Dino]

On Oct 18, 9:13 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> in
> alt.abortion with message-id <61ef7o.59a.1...@news.alt.net> wrote:
>
> >Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers, only a heartless
> >sadist would oppose this law.
>

> There is no baby prior to live birth and I hope this 'law' is thrown
> out, as it deserves to be.

This is what you pro-aborts must believe to brainwash yourselves into
accepting abortion. Much like a serial killer doesn't look at his or
her victim
as being a human being, but rather an object.

Doctors and the dictionary disagree with you. There is a baby prior
to birth.
And only a sick fool would oppose this law.

Guess that makes you a sick fool.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/18/2012 12:35 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> There is a baby prior
>> >to birth.
>> >And only a sick fool would oppose this law.

> No there isn't and I oppose it.


You are a sick killer.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm

This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen.
The head is tilted left toward the placenta, which can be seen as a
mound in the left of the ultrasound image.
Both eyes are visible, and the area of white within the eye is the lens.
Other facial features, such as the nose and mouth,
are also visible.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 17, 4:07 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>
wrote:

> On 10/17/2012 4:34 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>
>
>

> > In article<k5mmoq$cb...@dont-email.me>,
> >   private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>  wrote:

>
> >> On 10/17/2012 3:04 AM, skyey...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On Oct 16, 9:30 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On 10/16/2012 9:41 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Oct 16, 9:19 am, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 10/15/2012 11:56 PM, SkyEyes wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Aborted embryos do*not*  feel pain.  The neurological system is not
> >>>>>>> hooked up
>
> >>>>>> Oh look, another baby-killing witch who thinks she has any clue what the
> >>>>>> unborn feel.
>
> >>>>> I've got one *hell* of a better handle on it than you do, asswipe.
>
> >>>> Fuck off, baby killer.
>
> >>> Make me, asswipe.
>
> >> Gladly, terrorist.
>
> >>    ARIZONA, PHOENIX
> >> 33.44838, -112.07404
> >> COX COMMUNICATIONS
> >>    Renaissance Square
> >>    Phoenix, AZ 85004 180 ft NW
>
> > Does this moron think he's outing you somehow, Brenda?
>
> Did the terrorist threats you two made about blowing up a statue in

> California come home to roost yet?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh, dear, another netloon making an insane accusation . .. .
Cite sources, and provide verification for the above ... .
say, you stopped raping your children yet?
See how easy that is to make a baseless accusation?
And do stop downloading, and making kiddy porn ...

[elizabeth]

On Oct 18, 11:48 am, private sector's doing 'fine'

Your mother should have taken it up the ass, and you really should
make up for that lack asap

[private sector's doing 'fine']

Nope.

> Cite sources, and provide verification for the above ... .

Gladly:
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<d62f592b-3c39-49ec...@b9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>

On Sep 30, 6:17 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> The next appropriate move is for Reagan's image to be placed on Mt.
> Rushmore. Greatness should be recognized.
And if they despoil that beautiful area with his ugly, hateful mug, I
promise by all I hold dear that I will haul my Fibromyalgic ass up
there with dynamite or C4 and blow it the fuck to smithereens.

Whose with me?

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34

BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

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> say, you stopped raping

YOU are dismissed!

[private sector's doing 'fine']

Is that how you were conceived, cunt?

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/18/2012 3:25 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:48:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'
> <whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id

> <k5pisv$moj$2...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 10/18/2012 12:35 PM, Attila< wrote:
>>>> There is a baby prior
>>>>> to birth.
>>>>> And only a sick fool would oppose this law.
>>> No there isn't and I oppose it.
>>
>>
>> You are a sick killer.
>

> Thank you for your opinion. Please prove I have ever killed anyone.

Please prove you have not.

> You are an idiot.

You are an amoral fuckwit.

> That is my opinion.

It's as useless as the rest of your "opinions".

>>
>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>>
>> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
>> gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen.
>

> So?

Why let a face come between you and murder...

>> The head is tilted left toward the placenta, which can be seen as a
>> mound in the left of the ultrasound image.
>> Both eyes are visible, and the area of white within the eye is the lens.
>> Other facial features, such as the nose and mouth,
>> are also visible.
>>
>

> OK. Your point?

Yes, it is completely MY point, you amoral fuckwitted killer.

[Mike...@outlook.cam]

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:39:34 -0400, Attila <<proc...@here.now>
wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:34 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'

><whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id

><k5ps9n$mkj$3...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>On 10/18/2012 3:25 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:48:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'
>>> <whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id
>>> <k5pisv$moj$2...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/18/2012 12:35 PM, Attila< wrote:
>>>>>> There is a baby prior
>>>>>>> to birth.
>>>>>>> And only a sick fool would oppose this law.
>>>>> No there isn't and I oppose it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are a sick killer.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your opinion. Please prove I have ever killed anyone.
>>
>>Please prove you have not.
>

>Unnecessary. Not killing someone is not a crime.

>
>>
>>> You are an idiot.
>>
>>You are an amoral fuckwit.
>>
>>> That is my opinion.
>>
>>It's as useless as the rest of your "opinions".
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>>>>
>>>> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
>>>> gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>>Why let a face come between you and murder...
>

>Not if you are speaking English and talking about anywhere abortion is
>legal. Murder requires an illegal component. Without this illegal
>component an act can no more be murder than a hamburger can be a
>hamburger without meat or a cow be a cow without four legs and bovine
>DNA.
>
>It is impossible for a legal act to be illegal - it simply cannot
>happen, To talk as if it can is to dishonestly foster a lie and
>deception, as well as clearly indicating the audience is too dumb to
>know what is being said.

>
>>
>>
>>>> The head is tilted left toward the placenta, which can be seen as a
>>>> mound in the left of the ultrasound image.
>>>> Both eyes are visible, and the area of white within the eye is the lens.
>>>> Other facial features, such as the nose and mouth,
>>>> are also visible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK. Your point?
>>
>>Yes, it is completely MY point, you amoral fuckwitted killer.
>>
>

>Prove I have ever killed anyone.
>
Can't prove a negative and you know that. It is possible to be
against abortion and against using the government to enforce your will
on people' lives you have no right to barge into. I will never have
one but I have no right to force someone else into my morality or lack
of it. The main reason I am against it is practicality. Government
cannot enforce such a law. IF a woman wants an abortion, she will get
one. What good does it to do prosecute people who perform or have
them? What's the matter, don't we have enough people in prison or are
you planning to murder them to keep from overcrowding?

[Dino]

On Oct 18, 2:35 pm, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Dino <whate...@homemail.com>
> in alt.abortion with message-id
> <0ce60fbf-0b2c-45c3-802f-fb23954be...@a6g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>

> wrote:
>
> >On Oct 18, 9:13 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> in
> >> alt.abortion with message-id <61ef7o.59a.1...@news.alt.net> wrote:
>
> >> >Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers, only a heartless
> >> >sadist would oppose this law.
>
> >> There is no baby prior to live birth and I hope this 'law' is thrown
> >> out, as it deserves to be.
>
> >This is what you pro-aborts must believe to brainwash yourselves into
> >accepting abortion. Much like a serial killer doesn't look at his or
> >her victim
> >as being a human being, but rather an object.
>

> Nonsense.

It's not nonsense at all, it's a fact. You have to devalue the fetus
in order to accept abortion.
No decent human being that has compassion for life can accept abortion
and view the fetus
as a human being. That would require you to accept the fact, that a
human life is being terminated
mostly for a matter of convenience. And most decent human beings are
not going to accept that.
So you have to, it's required, that you view the fetus as nothing but
a glob of cells. But even that
doesn't cut it, because for a fact...we are all a glob of cells from
the start of cellular division until death.

So much like a rapist and a serial killer, you must devalue the
victim. The fetus is the victim in this case.
You can't possibly think of the fetus as being a unique human life.
It would create inner conflict.

>
>
>
> >Doctors and the dictionary disagree with you.
>

> The law doesn't, nor does the society that defines those laws.

And this is where your brainwashing begins.

>
> > There is a baby prior
> >to birth.
> >And only a sick fool would oppose this law.
>

> No there isn't and I oppose it.

Why? Because a woman might change her mind???
Why would you possibly oppose abortions being performed
on a fetus when it has reached an advanced stage and would feel the
pain?
How heartless are you?
How sick in the head and brainwashed are you?

>
>
>
> >Guess that makes you a sick fool.
>

> In your opinion, which really doesn't matter.  Much like you.

Again, you are a brainwashed fool.


>
> --
> Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
>
> Every illegal alien is a criminal.
> No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
> Deportation upon identification as the only option.
>
> Support H.R.140 - Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011
> Support extending Alabama immigration laws to every state.
> Bonehead Osama, the Clown-in-Chief, should be unemployed in 2013 or sooner.
>
> Religion is the worst monstrosity ever fostered upon the
> human species. Only mental defectives would pay the
> slightest attention to it.
>
> Why should any religion be considered a foreign nation
> with Ambassadors and diplomatic immunity?
>
> Michael Vick should be stripped naked and put in a pit
> with at least a dozen of his dogs.

[Dino]

On Oct 19, 8:39 am, MikeH...@outlook.cam wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:39:34 -0400, Attila <<procho...@here.now>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:34 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'

> ><whislt...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id

> ><k5ps9n$mk...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
> >>On 10/18/2012 3:25 PM, Attila < wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:48:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'

> >>> <whislt...@grave.yd>  in alt.abortion with message-id
> >>> <k5pisv$mo...@dont-email.me>  wrote:

Exactly These fools don't get that. They have completely brainwashed
themselves
into think EVERYONE who is against abortion would try to stop a woman
from
getting one.

I too, do not support the decision to get an abortion. And I would
never help a woman
get one. I would also, never impede on her right to choose one. I
simply would not
help her get one.

You see, a person can oppose the choice to abort and they can support
a persons right to choose.

And these morons have completely brainwashed themselves, through their
own prejudices and bigotries, into believing
that anyone who says they are against abortion hates women or would
kill an abortion doctor or would try to stop women.

I've nailed Syd M. and Skeyeys, on their lies trying to claim that
I've interfered in women's' lives or tried to stop them.
When questioned to back it up, all they can come up with is...since I
post in here. Oh come on now!! Really?
A social medium, one where a person has the choice to either read or
not read...and that is the same as interferring or impeding
on a woman's right to choose?
See how sick in the head these idiots are?

 The main reason I am against it is practicality.  Government
> cannot enforce such a law. IF a woman wants an abortion, she will get
> one.

Exactly

What good does it to do prosecute people who perform or have
> them?  What's the matter, don't we have enough people in prison or are
> you planning to murder them to keep from overcrowding?

Well said.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 2:39 AM, Attila < wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:34 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'

> <whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id

> <k5ps9n$mkj$3...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 10/18/2012 3:25 PM, Attila< wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:48:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'
>>> <whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id
>>> <k5pisv$moj$2...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/18/2012 12:35 PM, Attila< wrote:
>>>>>> There is a baby prior
>>>>>>> to birth.
>>>>>>> And only a sick fool would oppose this law.
>>>>> No there isn't and I oppose it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are a sick killer.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your opinion. Please prove I have ever killed anyone.
>>
>> Please prove you have not.
>

> Unnecessary.

Fail.

>>
>>> You are an idiot.
>>
>> You are an amoral fuckwit.
>>
>>> That is my opinion.
>>
>> It's as useless as the rest of your "opinions".
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>>>>
>>>> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
>>>> gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> Why let a face come between you and murder...
>

> Not if you are speaking English and talking about anywhere abortion

Shut the fuck up, baby killer.

>>
>>>> The head is tilted left toward the placenta, which can be seen as a
>>>> mound in the left of the ultrasound image.
>>>> Both eyes are visible, and the area of white within the eye is the lens.
>>>> Other facial features, such as the nose and mouth,
>>>> are also visible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK. Your point?
>>
>> Yes, it is completely MY point, you amoral fuckwitted killer.
>>
>

> Prove I have ever killed anyone.
>
Prove you have not, baby-killer.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 6:38 AM, Mike...@outlook.cam wrote:
> Can't prove a negative and you know that. It is possible to be
> against abortion and against using the government

Let's remind folks what a total LUSER you are..


Here's the real ?@qmail.not in all his self-righteous, senile,
slobbering self-pity:


<ehgj28plnp0bbgiaj...@4ax.com>

If I did go back to work, there is no way I could earn enough to pay
for health care. My wife had a serious bout with cancer and the costs
were over $180,000. I was operated on last year with a cost of
$47,000. There is no way I could earn that kind of money and that's
why we started Medicare/Medicaid in the first place. FDR was right
with the start of SS & LBJ was right with Medicare. It may not be
what you want, but there are too many people who need it.


<o3dn28plpdiivo41p...@4ax.com>

I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and
humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the
oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never
the tormented. While this may be a noble endeavor, time often
restricts what we can continue to do. I do not spend nearly as much
time on usenet as you do. I simply don't have that kind of free time.

<1msl28l407mr7i005...@4ax.com>

Right now Medicare payments are
being cut and my supplement insurance is picking up the difference. I
am therefore paying more for my supplemental insurance. If I have pay
more to keep the system solvent, I am willing to as long as I can
afford it. Some measure should be in place for those who can't. Right
now we had or used to have Medicaid. Many doctors/hospitals are no
longer accepting Medicaid. Is Medicare next?

<hji008dmil7hrdv3i...@4ax.com>

Obama is not a failure at anything yet but those who insist he is
because he wouldn't do things they way they want him to, well, they
have failed as Americans and shouldn't even live in my country.

<l6k008l5jirdoaaih...@4ax.com>

The ecomony is where it is because of a
nation that doesn't give a dam about anyone else but itself and
employers who have an insatiable desire for all the money, all of it.
Did it ever dawn on you that if we let them get away with it, the rest
of us won't have any? The incompetent ass is you.

<65cl38lgun94nmj5k...@4ax.com>

The Phony Kernel is just about gone. That is the only point. IF he
was in nam it was as one of the vietcong.


<s85d48dcgvkoroe8k...@4ax.com>

Your face is like my ass. I don't have to look at
either. I'd just settle to see scum like you out of my country. You
Anti-Americans don't deserve to live here.

<428h489p23tv9nds7...@4ax.com>

For the safety of the public who lives in your area, I'll revise the
suggestion, go outside and shoot into the ground. Don't miss your foot
now. Wait for the police to come. If they don't come in a few minutes
do it again. Oh, and wear your T-Shirt with Target's logo on the front
and the Second Amendment on the back. Then see how long you get to keep
your gun.

<dd8h489tad2rum2ru...@4ax.com>

after I wake up from my nap I'll have the time to read your lengthy
rant......snip!

<gi8h48hbbj3cvah7h...@4ax.com>

Hahha, you are mentally degranged. I am far from tortured, idiot.


<5d9u48138slth1gbc...@4ax.com>

More customers will never drive costs down, only up. Since I've been
using Medicare, doctors are doing their best to drain it from as many
sources as they can. I am diabetic. A few years ago, I was seeing my
doctor once a year. I saw my labs twice a year. If there was something
wrong in mid-year the doctor called me in or changed my meds without
ever seeing me. My control is still good. The ADA says I should target
to be below 7.0 AIC. I have been consistently between 7.0 and 6.0. No
change but BUT, today I see my doctor 8 times a year and the lab 4
times a year, every 3 months instead of 6. The ADA says I should be
between 120-130 for my Blood Sugar. I average below 120 yet one of my
health care professionals told us we need to be between 65 and 99. Why
the low numbers? It's called "Marketting". I can't allow myself to
get below 80 or I become hyper-glycemic. Since we are talking about a
serious health issue, let me add:

I have been diabetic since 2005. The only change in my blood sugar
took place when 3 doctors tried to change my meds 3 different times
when all was going well. The changes didn't work and I had to double
up on meds to get back under control. So the changes were not for me,
they were for my doctor. I have read almost everything I could get my
hands on about diabetes. I learned that what works for me may not
work for you or for anyone else. One has to play with things a little
to get a system down and stick with it unless a change occurs that you
didn't cause. I use Splenda for sweetener. Works just fine. I know two
people who cannot use it. It raises their blood sugar.

I can suggest one thing I did. A doctor once took me off Glipicide and
put me on Atcos which is being advertised by the legal guys as a drug
with possible side affects causing bladder cancer. I quit the Atcos.
I then asked my doctor a serious question. First telling him that I
am not the patient with 4 million dollars under my mattress. I don't
have enough to take care of all my meds. SO....which ones should I
stop taking that will extend my life as long as possible and give me
the most time to get my affairs in order since I am going to die? I
guess that shocked his ass because he came up with all sorts of
generic answers to my problem. I also did go off some of the drugs.

Right now I battle (if you can call it that) bladder infections. So
far I have had two days in the hospital, where it took two days to
drip 2 bags of saline solution into me (I was dehydrated). I had this
exact same thing two years ago in another hospital and they gave me 3
bags and let me go home that same day. I wasn't told to stay. Here,
they didn't want me to leave. In fact one of their Chinese nurses told
me I had e-coli. I didn't realize it at the time but they never took
any stool specimens. e-coli does not show up in the bladder according
to what I read. This China nurse spoke very bad engish. SO now they do
come here to work, build bridges and help themselves to my tax money.
I am going through test after test right now to find out why I had two
bouts with bladder infections. Right in the book on diabetes, that is
the cause and they can't cure diabetes or can they? With bridge
replacements, the Chinese are doing that right now and the idiots
blamed that on Obama. Well, he didn't do that. And I've carried on
long enough. I am not Obama's friend but I am not his enemy as either
position would not serve any purpose whatsoever. If we have any enemy
it is the congress, not the president regardless of who he turns out
to be. I know, I know the diehard wingnut has to disagree with me but
that's Ok. I disagree with them. Regards and good luck to anyone with
diabetes.

<j2eu481b1d57711er...@4ax.com>

I am no longer concerned with peaks. Now it's the valleys.
Sometimes I get too low and I can tell, I get the shakes.
For that I keep Oatmeal Raisin Cookies on hand. Two will
do the trick. If I get too low and need a quick flush, I drink
a glass of orange juice. Also have to add when I became
diabetic, I am over 6 feet tall and weighed in at 278. I now
weigh 238 and I gain more control of the diabetes as I lose.
I also take the dog out every evening. I walk 1 mile. If I
take my blood sugar reading before and after the walk, I
lose 30 points by walking the mile.

One other thing. I was taking Lovastastin for Cholesterol.
My doc sent me an email saying he was changing that to
Simvastatin. That one change 40 mg to 40 mg resulted in
an average lowering of my blood sugar of 30 points. One
other thing and I wouldn't take too much stock in this, in
fact I am afraid to try it. A penpal in Austria became an MD.
I told him my numbers and he said, "American doctors must
be getting a payback for the medicines they prescribe. Your
Cholesterol is not that high for a man your age. IF you stop
the cholesterol meds, you may find out that your diabetes
goes away. Yeah, I'm afraid but I have to add this. I went
on Lovastatin first. A year later he diagnosed me as being in
Adult Diabetes. Did it? I don't know and if Medicare goes
the way it seems to be going, (away) I may have to control
my diabetes with diet and exercize. I'll go vegan. It's either
that or move to Yuma where the Mexican border is reasonably
safe and I can jump across for doctor and Rx. There is an
entire town in Arizona called Green Valley. The average age
there is 76 years old. They are 20 minutes from the border so
I can guess why they live there. It's hot and no trees.

<a9gu48l2jl6c450kb...@4ax.com>

I have a set of diabetic inserts. They do work and I still
have the same ones prescribed to me 5 years ago. The
Diabetic shoes are more expensive and I'm told only are
supposed to last 6 months. I only use my inserts with
dress shoes.
For around the house I use sandals with Dr. Sholls and
other inserts in them. I use them even if I go out for a
short shopping trip, see a movie or go out to dinner. I
have 4 pairs of these slippers/sandals and even walk my
mile each night with them. I switch sandals during the
day I may use all 4 of them. My feet are bad but not
getting any worse.
And last, everyone is different. I had to experiment and
see what worked. I was using One-Touch tabs and my
insurance was paying for them. I used a lot of them.
Now that I am under control, I buy "Reli-On" tabs. I did
check them against One-Touch. The readings were the
same. I buy what I can afford and everyone is different.
Good luck with your diabetes.


<mpev4819gpdub84ar...@4ax.com>

The best health care I had in the last 15 years was by Kaiser
Permanente where doctors work directly for the company. I never met
one who was unhappy working for Kaiser.

I don't drink coffee, so I need no sweetener,
but my body makes insulin at a slow rate no
matter how much medicine I take, so eating
less per meal is the answer as long as the
A1c is below 7.0.

I have never missed a vote and almost always
vote against the encumbant. Not much else one
vote can do.

I do not do well with potatoes. I seem to do better with rice. I
actually like the fast dinners, I like Marie Callendar best.

<0b6158h58tm9phdr5...@4ax.com>

Not part of this issue. The country recoved from the war eventually.
We have yet to stop this war after 22 years. That is the issue you
can't spin off in one of your wild directions.

<pu7158t44vla1f9rl...@4ax.com>

Maybe you could try respecting your president and if you are so
against him, vote with your pen and not your mouth. You only know
what one party makes up about him. Do you even think that they will
approve of any democrat? You should expect their BS and take it with
a grain of salt. As you look at Obama's actions, try to understand
why. You won't have to look far, look at George W Bush. They don't
like blaming him but then they don't like blaming themselves for
anything.


<v6a158t0e6feus58r...@4ax.com>

Both parties spend money like it was theirs to do whatever they want
to do with it. They spend it differently. Democrats would see it go
to people while republicans want to go to businesses (that they are
invested in) Not so difficult to understand. But since that means I
have to pay their taxs so they won't have to, I'm going to fight them
here and in the trenches.

<mna158pkq97n841at...@4ax.com>

This has been an increasing problem. I was dumped by a doctor. He
billed my insurance didn't like what they paid him so he tried to bill
me for the difference. When I refused (Insurance company told me to)
I was unable to get in touch with him for an appointment or otherwise.
He even ordered some blood workup that was incomplete. He did that
3 times. When I came home one day from first seeing him, my neighbor
asked how it went. I told her who the doctor was and she said, "I
thought he was dead." A lot older than me he was. He was the doctor
who changed my Glipicide over to Atcos which is being advertised by
lawyers who sue for bladder cancer.

I know several people who too lump sums and regretted doing so. I
have two private pensions and they have both paid me more than I put
into them. In December I will be retired 5 years.

Living the life of an RV'er is not such a bad way to go. We have been
traveling a lot and all along the routes we see permanent RV'ers
hooked up to the sites. I thought about doing that and if not for a
wife that insists on a nest somewhere, I would be full time Rv'ing
myself. There are clubs where you can join, pay the fees and even with
the fees spend less than $10 a night for a spot to park, water, sewer,
trash, Cable TV as well as Internet. The only extra is electicity.
There is no cheaper way to live.

I am as guilty, especially during the holidays.
Chocolate covered cherries, holiday cookies
which were shortbread, a dab of fudge and a
cherry or walnut cut in half. I did grow up in
a home that did not buy convenience foods.
My mother had diabetes and now I have it as well.


<sp7558tm5kjcj41i7...@4ax.com>

In most other points in our party's history, Obama would fit in well as
a Republican.

<1ia6585jd3h8kqdo8...@4ax.com>

The human race has infected
this planet as it is in our nature to destroy ourselves.

<83s7589sm0451jq42...@4ax.com>

You're still posting
with a dirty sock so you can bet your in most kill files. You don't
deserve to live in this country, and you are a traitor to the American
way of life.


<c6u758lb553urq56q...@4ax.com>

You know that wasn't very funny when you sent out information about
your own departure. Do you know what we spend on the party!!!!!! Just
in time to find out you were still alive. Dam you're mean.

<4l895810rhao62c3h...@4ax.com>

Fair? Hahah. You should be David Letterman's show with that kind of
bullshit. You make up the script as you go along .

<a0m9585iumkaqi0mm...@4ax.com>

Your insane, completely bonkers.

<9uo958d99bd65i0n7...@4ax.com>

Sooneror later you only drown in your own puke all by yourself anyway.
Read the last sentence below. Read it 14 times. You are young but your
mind hasn't formed yet and it takes repetition to get the data to sink
in.

<jir9585hddef2b5nc...@4ax.com>

And here I thought we just went through this? Must be my senility, so
once again, No, I don't even try to keep up with a teenager. I'm too
old for that.

<7s1a58pps17bkkijq...@4ax.com>

Outlast you at what? At least I have a brain. The only sick person
here is you. Did you happen to have sex with a monkey? Get HIV?
You have the ramblings of an addict. What are you on?

<c54a58trui9hpjomp...@4ax.com>

I just received my Medicare RX
booklet and the prices did go up. Holy cow. Next year I get to pay
.60¢ more a month. Good Grief, that's like $7.20 a year. Oh, how will
we survive under ObamaCare? Oh, woe is me. Hahahaha.

<qj5a58hatt23niaj8...@4ax.com>

I don’t care if someone doesn’t like
the President but I do care if the
reason is lie!


<78ha58d3da3sviprb...@4ax.com>

a post or two before you almost sounded like you were in a reasonable
discussion. Now you sound like yourself, an asshole.


<isia5893q088ru9lm...@4ax.com>

In the meantime, have a good evening. I am just so old I need to go
to bed.

<qigb58hinicni6oqt...@4ax.com>

You are taking your "tour" by yourself.
It is time to stop now. You are an idiot and a liar and
impossible to hold a conversation with people like you.
You'll call this a debate when it clearly is not and then call
yourself the winner regardless of how it comes out. Caught
in a lie you make up a new one. Typical right wing.

There is a clinical diagnosis. You won't see things the
way average people see them. You are in own little world
occasionally dragging someone else in there with you.

Posting with you is like an argument in Kindergarten
Yawwwwn





Hooo weee....get the Glipicide and Dr. Scholls sandals out....we got a
live one here gang...for now anyway...

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 8:37 AM, Attila < wrote:
> The anti-choice faction would force one choice and prevent the other.

You're a baby-killer, you human turd.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 8:48 AM, Attila < wrote:
> More personal opinions again.

More baby-killing.

[Dino]

On Oct 19, 10:37 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:56:20 -0700 (PDT), Dino <whate...@homemail.com>
> in alt.abortion with message-id
> <64f16b1d-7755-4675-83b3-7912f52fd...@r10g2000vby.googlegroups.com>

> wrote:
>
> >You see, a person can oppose the choice to abort and they can support
> >a persons right to choose.
>

> Which makes you prochoice.

I am pro-choice in every aspect of the meaning. Meaning, I favor
EVERYONE'S right's to make
a legal choice. That does NOT mean I don't have to favor the choice.
That has been my position all along, moron.


You support the right to choose (which is
> what being prochoice is) and additionally you have an opinion as to
> which choice should be made.  The key point is which choice should be
> made, not must be made.

>
> The anti-choice faction would force one choice and prevent the other.

I don't support that position.
Never have.

[Dino]

On Oct 19, 10:48 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:51:55 -0700 (PDT), Dino <whate...@homemail.com>
> in alt.abortion with message-id
> <f752b40e-e927-44ae-bea7-162fb6445...@s12g2000vbw.googlegroups.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Oct 18, 2:35 pm, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Dino <whate...@homemail.com>
> >> in alt.abortion with message-id
> >> <0ce60fbf-0b2c-45c3-802f-fb23954be...@a6g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Oct 18, 9:13 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> in
> >> >> alt.abortion with message-id <61ef7o.59a.1...@news.alt.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers, only a heartless
> >> >> >sadist would oppose this law.
>
> >> >> There is no baby prior to live birth and I hope this 'law' is thrown
> >> >> out, as it deserves to be.
>
> >> >This is what you pro-aborts must believe to brainwash yourselves into
> >> >accepting abortion. Much like a serial killer doesn't look at his or
> >> >her victim
> >> >as being a human being, but rather an object.
>
> >> Nonsense.
>
> >It's not nonsense at all, it's a fact.
>

> Only in your delusions.

Oh? is the fetus a puppy?

>
> > You have to devalue the fetus
> >in order to accept abortion.
>

> No, you simple don't need to make it more valuable than it actually
> is.

No, I simply view the issue for what it is. A human life in
development. Which is what all of us are from conception to death.

>
> >No decent human being that has compassion for life
>

> Thus throwing your opinion firmly into the mix.

Oh well, I'm allowed to do that.

 It seems we disagree
> as to what is a 'decent human being' and the importance of 'compassion
> for life'.  What makes your opinion more important than mine?


I don't have to devalue something in order to accept it.
You do.

>
> > can accept abortion
> >and view the fetus
> >as a human being.
>

> How someone 'views' something is important only to that individual.
> Everyone else can ignore him.

>
> >That would require you to accept the fact, that a
> >human life is being terminated
> >mostly for a matter of convenience.
>

> I am not required to accept anything, and I see nothing wrong with
> convenience.  I remind you the freedom of choice does not require
> justification to anyone, nor the approval of anyone.

>
> > And most decent human beings
>

> There you go again.

>
> > are
> >not going to accept that.
>

> Actually it is the business of the woman involved and no one else.

Well gee Walley...are you a woman?

>
> >So you have to, it's required, that you view the fetus as nothing but
> >a glob of cells.
>

> I am required to do nothing.

>
> > But even that
> >doesn't cut it, because for a fact...we are all a glob of cells from
> >the start of cellular division until death.
>

> Irrelevant.

That is what you say every time you get backed into a corner.

>
>
>
> >So much like a rapist and a serial killer, you must devalue the
> >victim.
>

> There is no victim.

Sure there is, the fetus is the victim. The fetus is alive....then
killed.
There is a victim. But having the mind like a serial killer or rapist,
you
have to ignore that so there is no conflict

>
> >The fetus is the victim in this case.
>

> Nonsense.  A victim is an individual and a fetus is not an individual.

The fetus is a human life, period.
That fetus is the victim of being slaughtered.

>
> >You can't possibly think of the fetus as being a unique human life.
>

> In that you are correct.  I don't.

Because you can't, it would cause inner conflict.

>
> >It would create inner conflict.
>

> Not at all.
>
> Are humans an endangered species?  Where is the requirement that every
> possible individual must exist?

Wow, you are really showing sadistic thought patterns there.

>
>
> >> >Doctors and the dictionary disagree with you.
>
> >> The law doesn't, nor does the society that defines those laws.
>
> >And this is where your brainwashing begins.
>

> No, I simply am aware of the reality involved.

No, you are not. You have to put a blanket over things, cover it up so
you don't see it for what it is.

From the very moment of conception until the day a person dies...that
is a human life.
Period.

>
>
>
> >> > There is a baby prior
> >> >to birth.
> >> >And only a sick fool would oppose this law.
>
> >> No there isn't and I oppose it.
>
> >Why?
>

> It is unnecessary.

>
> > Because a woman might change her mind???
>

> Not at all.  That occurs constantly.

>
> >Why would you possibly oppose abortions being performed
> >on a fetus when it has reached an advanced stage and would feel the
> >pain?
>

> Irrelevant.

No no no..I asked you a question. I want an answer. Because that is
what this law is about.

>
> >How heartless are you?
> >How sick in the head and brainwashed are you?
>

> More personal opinions again.

>
>
>
> >> >Guess that makes you a sick fool.
>
> >> In your opinion, which really doesn't matter. Much like you.
>
> >Again, you are a brainwashed fool.
>

> And yet again.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 1:06 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:11:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'

> <whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id

> Prove I have ever killed

Prove you have not, killer.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 1:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
> I am well aware of the actual reality.

You are a sick killer.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm

This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 18, 1:48 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

> Is that how you were conceived, cunt?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Nope, unlike you, I know who my father is.
there is nothing wrong with you that a postnatal abortion, performed
by the most sadistic serial killer, can't cure.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

I bet you visit his kennel regularly...

> there is nothing wrong with you that a postnatal abortion, performed
> by the most sadistic serial killer, can't cure.

Thanks for the typical Lib-Dem solution, you fascist.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 5:51 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 18, 2:35 pm, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT), Dino <whate...@homemail.com>
> > in alt.abortion with message-id
> > <0ce60fbf-0b2c-45c3-802f-fb23954be...@a6g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Oct 18, 9:13 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 -0700, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> in
> > >> alt.abortion with message-id <61ef7o.59a.1...@news.alt.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers, only a heartless
> > >> >sadist would oppose this law.
>
> > >> There is no baby prior to live birth and I hope this 'law' is thrown
> > >> out, as it deserves to be.
>
> > >This is what you pro-aborts must believe to brainwash yourselves into
> > >accepting abortion. Much like a serial killer doesn't look at his or
> > >her victim
> > >as being a human being, but rather an object.
>
> > Nonsense.

This is why you should kill yourself, Heishman.

> It's not nonsense at all, it's a fact.  You have to devalue the fetus
> in order to accept abortion.

But a fetus is not a human being, and a woman is. Bearing an unwanted
child is de facto punishment, and ends up with bad outcomes for the
woman and the child. And since we can't take care of the children
here now, concern for unwanted fetuses just proves you are one with
the rapists.

> No decent human being that has compassion for life can accept abortion
> and view the fetus

But what can you know of what decent people think or feel?

> as a human being. That would require you to accept the fact, that a
> human life is being terminated

And since pregnancies spontaneously abort, and since fetuses die
during childbirth, what is your point? We 'terminate' human lives all
the time, by comission and omission.

> mostly for a matter of convenience.

You really need to get a few fourth degree tears to find out what
"convenience" means.

 And most decent human beings are
> not going to accept that.

But you aren't decent, nor would any decent preson agree with your
shit.

> So you have to, it's required, that you view the fetus as nothing but
> a glob of cells. But even that
> doesn't cut it, because for a fact...we are all a glob of cells from
> the start of cellular division until death.
>
> So much like a rapist and a serial killer, you must devalue the
> victim. The fetus is the victim in this case.

Only a rapist feels that what HE wants the woman to do with HER body,
no matter the harm, is good. Rapists "devalue" the harm done to
women. Wish you would have done unto you what a normal pregnancy does
to a woman.

> You can't possibly think of the fetus as being a unique human life.
> It would create inner conflict.
>

You can't possibly know that, and since women have been aborting for
thousands of years, you are declaring that all women who have ever
aborted are "indecent" .. . like that fat pig of a wife of yours?

>
> > >Doctors and the dictionary disagree with you.
>
> > The law doesn't, nor does the society that defines those laws.
>
> And this is where your brainwashing begins.

If you only had a brain to wash . ..

> > with at least a dozen of his dogs.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 9:04 am, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>
wrote:

> On 10/19/2012 2:39 AM, Attila < wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:34 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'

> > <whislt...@grave.yd>  in alt.abortion with message-id

> > <k5ps9n$mk...@dont-email.me>  wrote:

>
> >> On 10/18/2012 3:25 PM, Attila<  wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:48:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'

> >>> <whislt...@grave.yd>   in alt.abortion with message-id

> Prove you have not, baby-killer.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Prove your mother didn't pimp you out to boy scout leaders.
Prove you don't fuck puppies.
Prove you didn't murder small children in your daycare center.

And since you feel that negatives can be proved, prove why you should
not be euthenized for the good of the species.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 12:21 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'

<whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 1:18 PM, Attila < wrote:
>
> > I am well aware of the actual reality.

Your mother should not have been turning tricks in Tijuana.

> You are a sick killer.
>
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>
> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks

But since the vast majority of abortioins take place before 17 weeks,
who gives a fuck?

And what of the NOT NORMAL fetuses that will die? Should women be
forced to gestate a fetus that is already dead?

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 2:22 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

> Thanks for the typical Lib-Dem solution, you fascist.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, this is why your mother should be taken out and shot for not
aborting you.

Was she too drunk to get to the clinic?

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 3:24 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>> And this is where your brainwashing begins.
> If you only had a brain to wash . ..
>

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 3:27 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> prove why you should
> not be euthenized for the good of the species.

I love it when you Lib-Dems return to your eugenics roots, thanks for
taking the entire chunk of bait.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 2:37 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>
wrote:

> On 10/19/2012 3:27 PM, elizabeth wrote:

Found a pic of your brain!
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkPysx4FQPVsAxT2JzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dfetal%2Bdeformities%2Bwilliams%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D82&w=180&h=150&imgurl=www.accessmedicine.ca%2FloadBinary.aspx%3Fname%3Dwaxm26%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dwaxm26_c011f013t.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.accessmedicine.ca%2Fsearch%2FsearchAMResultImg.aspx%3FsearchStr%3Dfamilial%2Bhypocalciuric%2Bhypercalcemia%26amp%3BrootTerm%3Ddandy-walker%2Bsyndrome%26amp%3BsearchType%3D1%26amp%3BrootID%3D17528&size=9+KB&name=AccessMedicine+%7C+dandy-walker+syndrome&p=fetal+deformities+williams&oid=e5ccc00697552c31efde04cb22f49157&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-701&tt=AccessMedicine%2B%257C%2Bdandy-walker%2Bsyndrome&b=61&ni=72&no=82&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=15ehcdlg2&sigb=13ku27utg&sigi=12jea4213&.crumb=2W1Ttd7fFfI

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 3:33 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> On Oct 19, 12:21 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>> On 10/19/2012 1:18 PM, Attila< wrote:
>>
>>> I am well aware of the actual reality.
>
> Your mother should not have been turning tricks in Tijuana.
>
>> You are a sick killer.
>>
>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>>
>> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
>
> But since the vast majority of abortioins take place before 17 weeks,
> who gives a fuck?

Guess what:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkyfwlscBKQ&feature=youtube_gdata

That's 8 weeks, you up for killing that too?

> And what of the NOT NORMAL fetuses that will die?

Define "not normal".

> Should women be forced to gestate a fetus that is already dead?

No, that seems useless.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

Wow you Lib-Dems really like to double down on your fascism...

[Dino]

On Oct 19, 5:40 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

Elizabeth is a certified nut case, who has done a lot of time. She is
a waste.
Notice how she stalks people in the newsgroups. I have her on ignore,
but yet I discovered to day that during the past month she has been
trailing every single one of my postings. She is a sicko. It's no
wonder no one ever wanted her in life and why she is alone.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 2:39 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 3:33 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 12:21 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
> > <whislt...@grave.yd>  wrote:
> >> On 10/19/2012 1:18 PM, Attila<  wrote:
>
> >>> I am well aware of the actual reality.
>
> > Your mother should not have been turning tricks in Tijuana.
>
> >> You are a sick killer.
>
> >>http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>
> >> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
>
> > But since the vast majority of abortioins take place before 17 weeks,
> > who gives a fuck?
>
> Guess what:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkyfwlscBKQ&feature=youtube_gdata
>
> That's 8 weeks, you up for killing that too?
>
> > And what of the NOT NORMAL fetuses that will die?
>
> Define "not normal".

Well, you . ..all those birth defects, did your mother sue Standard
Oil for the fetal damage done to you while she was huffing gas fumes?

> > Should women be forced to gestate a fetus that is already dead?
>

> No, that seems useless.- Hide quoted text -

That proves you know nothing of the subject matter. Read William's
Obstetrics for an overview, it's the standard text. Women don't
abort wanted fetuses, and women abort unwanted fetuses as soon as they
can. however, pregnancies do fail, and women do abort wanted
pregnancies due to any number of problems.

Which you would know if you had any education.
And since you can get that information very easily, are you very
young, very stupid, or a lying sack of shit?

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 3:39 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2:37 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> wrote:
>> On 10/19/2012 3:27 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>
> Found a pic of your brain!

Found another baby for you to kill:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhFqFjOzojc&feature=related

[private sector's doing 'fine']

Boy howdy, you got that right!

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 3:59 PM, elizabeth wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2:39 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> wrote:
>> On 10/19/2012 3:33 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 19, 12:21 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'
>>> <whislt...@grave.yd> wrote:
>>>> On 10/19/2012 1:18 PM, Attila< wrote:
>>
>>>>> I am well aware of the actual reality.
>>
>>> Your mother should not have been turning tricks in Tijuana.
>>
>>>> You are a sick killer.
>>
>>>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>>
>>>> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
>>
>>> But since the vast majority of abortioins take place before 17 weeks,
>>> who gives a fuck?
>>
>> Guess what:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkyfwlscBKQ&feature=youtube_gdata
>>
>> That's 8 weeks, you up for killing that too?
>>
>>> And what of the NOT NORMAL fetuses that will die?
>>
>> Define "not normal".
>
> Well, you . ..all those birth defects, did your mother sue Standard
> Oil for the fetal damage done to you while she was huffing gas fumes?

Are you really a woman?

I can't say that I've run into many as inhumane and uneducated as you
appear to be.

>>> Should women be forced to gestate a fetus that is already dead?
>>
>> No, that seems useless.- Hide quoted text -
>
> That proves you know nothing of the subject matter.

Really?

> Read William's Obstetrics for an overview, it's the standard text.

And?

http://www.accessmedicine.com/resourcetoc.aspx?resourceid=46

> Women don't abort wanted fetuses,

That would seem to be generally true, although in rare instances the
life of the mother may spur a decision to abort.

> and women abort unwanted fetuses as soon as they can.

Some do, the murderous types mostly.

> however, pregnancies do fail, and women do abort wanted
> pregnancies due to any number of problems.

It can happen, sure.

> Which you would know if you had any education.

Um, I already do know that, so try again, twit.

> And since you can get that information very easily, are you very
> young, very stupid, or a lying sack of shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPcPm3ROt0&feature=related

That's 9 weeks, killer.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <k5sh4n$8jn$5...@dont-email.me>,

All I see is a blob of varying intensities of light and dark.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[private sector's doing 'fine']

You're an idiot.

Try 9 weeks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPcPm3ROt0&feature=related

[Seth lePod]

On Oct 19, 9:04 am, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>
wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 2:39 AM, Attila < wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:34 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'
> > <whislt...@grave.yd>  in alt.abortion with message-id
> > <k5ps9n$mk...@dont-email.me>  wrote:
>
> >> On 10/18/2012 3:25 PM, Attila<  wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:48:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'
> >>> <whislt...@grave.yd>   in alt.abortion with message-id

> >>> <k5pisv$mo...@dont-email.me>   wrote:
>
> >>>> On 10/18/2012 12:35 PM, Attila<   wrote:
> >>>>>> There is a baby prior
> >>>>>>> to birth.
> >>>>>>> And only a sick fool would oppose this law.
> >>>>> No there isn't and I oppose it.
>

> >>>> You are a sick killer.
>

> >>> Thank you for your opinion.  Please prove I have ever killed anyone.
>
> >> Please prove you have not.
>
> > Unnecessary.
>
> Fail.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> You are an idiot.
>
> >> You are an amoral fuckwit.
>
> >>> That is my opinion.
>
> >> It's as useless as the rest of your "opinions".
>

> >>>>http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm
>
> >>>> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks
> >>>> gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen.
>

> >>> So?
>
> >> Why let a face come between you and murder...
>
> > Not if you are speaking English and talking about anywhere abortion
>
> Shut the fuck up, baby killer.
>
>
>

> >>>> The head is tilted left toward the placenta, which can be seen as a
> >>>> mound in the left of the ultrasound image.
> >>>> Both eyes are visible, and the area of white within the eye is the lens.
> >>>> Other facial features, such as the nose and mouth,
> >>>> are also visible.
>

> >>> OK.  Your point?
>
> >> Yes, it is completely MY point, you amoral fuckwitted killer.
>

:
> > Prove I have ever killed

:

> Prove you have not, killer.

Hey, if you'll first pour me a cuppa from Russell's
teapot, I'll prove it for him.


Deal?


Seth

[LMAOatmelonhead]

SkyEyes wrote:
> On Oct 15, 10:42 pm, Athos Porthos and Aramis
> <deba...@noteleprompter.ru> wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 06:54 PM, Syd M. wrote:

>>
>>> On Oct 15, 3:55 pm, J<jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>> Knowing the excruciating pain that the baby suffers,
>>

>>> Nope.
>>> Still NO baby is harmed in an abortion, JerkYoung.
>>
>> You'd like to believe that to assuage your guilt for killing yours.
>> Your dead baby felt pain when you aborted it. Try keeping your panties on.
>
> Aborted embryos do *not* feel pain. The neurological system is not
> hooked up and functioning fully until shortly before natural birth.
> The embryos are not conscious and not sentient. They don't know
> they're alive, and they don't know they're being aborted. Not
> existing does *not* hurt.
>
> And as for a woman keeping her panties on, you do *not* have the right
> to dictate the terms of other people's sex lives. You specifically do
> *not* get to punish women for having sex by forcing them to remain
> pregnant when they do not want to be.
>
> When you finally have a relationship with a real woman instead of with
> a blow-up doll, you'll understand this. I'm not holding my breath
> waiting for that to happen, however.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

You are a fool and of course would be an atheist. It allows you to kill
babies without bothering your conscience.
Being an atheist also allows you to fuck anybody, anywhere
indiscriminately. I'll bet you are a Democrat, and you receive
government aid.

[LMAOatmelonhead]

Because he is not a parasitic Democrat and can afford his own condoms
and doesn't need goverment assistance. You promiscuous sluts are a
different story.

[LMAOatmelonhead]

Are you still doing bestiality porn?

[LMAOatmelonhead]

You see only what you want to see because you are a promiscuous slut.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 6:55 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:10:29 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'
> <whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id
> <k5s8iq$leu$6...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/2012 1:06 PM, Attila< wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:11:10 -0600, private sector's doing 'fine'
>>> <whis...@grave.yd> in alt.abortion with message-id
>>> <k5ru2j$dav$2...@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/19/2012 8:37 AM, Attila< wrote:
>>>>> The anti-choice faction would force one choice and prevent the other.
>>>>
>>>> You're a baby-killer, you human turd.

>>>
>>> Prove I have ever killed
>>

>> Prove you have not, killer.
>

> It is not necessary
Yes, it is.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 6:56 PM, Attila < wrote:
> Again a negative.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

On 10/19/2012 6:57 PM, Attila < wrote:
> All of which is irrelevant.

[private sector's doing 'fine']

Do life a favor - KILL him.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 3:35 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 3:39 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>
> > On Oct 19, 2:37 pm, private sector's doing 'fine'<whislt...@grave.yd>
> > wrote:
> >> On 10/19/2012 3:27 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>
> > Found a pic of your brain!
>
> Found another baby for you to kill:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhFqFjOzojc&feature=related

FEtuses aren't babies, and it's clear your mother regrets not aborting
you.

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 3:36 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

> Boy howdy, you got that right!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

And yet another of Bobby Heishman's sockpuppets . ...

No wonder you got booted from the DoC!

[elizabeth]

On Oct 19, 3:45 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>

OK, pull out your academic record.

> Really?
>
> > Read William's Obstetrics for an overview, it's the standard text.
>
> And?
>
> http://www.accessmedicine.com/resourcetoc.aspx?resourceid=46

Read the textbook, every first year med student already has in
undergraduate work . ..

> > Women don't abort wanted fetuses,
>
> That would seem to be generally true,

Why on earth would a woman abort a WANTED PREGNANCY?
They sometimes HAVE TO GET ABORTIONS when the pregnancy fails, which
they do for any number of reasons.
The woman can be hit with several conditions that means NOT
terminating the pregnancy will kill her AND THE FETUS.
Which you would know if you had any background.

> although in rare instances the
> life of the mother may spur a decision to abort.

These things do happen. Even healthy fetuses in a healthy woman can
die in utero, can die during delivery.
Even healthy women drop dead from embolism and hemorrhage, which can
not be predicted, prevented, or treated.

> > and women abort unwanted fetuses as soon as they can.
>
> Some do, the murderous types mostly.

Well, then most women in the world for thousands of years are
"murderous" in your twisted definition, which reveals you know your
mother should have aborted.

> > however, pregnancies do fail, and women do abort wanted
> > pregnancies due to any number of problems.
>
> It can happen, sure.

Get an MD and we'll talk about your involvement . ..

> > Which you would know if you had any education.
>
> Um, I already do know that, so try again, twit.

No, you don't.

> > And since you can get that information very easily, are you very
> > young, very stupid, or a lying sack of shit?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPcPm3ROt0&feature=related
>

> That's 9 weeks, killer.- Hide quoted text -

And your mother wishes she had scraped you out at that point.

[Seth lePod]

On Oct 19, 2:36 pm, private sector's doing 'fine' <whislt...@grave.yd>
wrote:

> On 10/19/2012 3:24 PM, elizabeth wrote:
>

:
> >> And this is where your brainwashing begins.

:
> > If you only had a brain to wash . ..

:

> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm

:
> This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks

> gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen.
> The head is tilted left toward the placenta, which can be seen as a
> mound in the left of the ultrasound image.
> Both eyes are visible, and the area of white within the eye is the lens.
> Other facial features, such as the nose and mouth,
> are also visible.

Perhaps easier to visualize:

http://images.photoresearchers.com/photos/preview/sn/sn9625.jpg



Seth