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Jahnu
Oct 16, 2012, 3:23:00 AM10/16/12
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If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or
less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
certainty such things as science and technology, but if you claim that
you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.
All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.
Lets examine this typical response of modern man. You see, it is
actually quite foolish. First it is asserted, that everyone says so.
Then the fact that everyone says so, is used to negate what is being
said.
If everyone says the same thing, the logical thing to assume is that
there must be something to it. Not that everyone says the same thing,
so therefore it must be false. How does that make sense? Where is the
logic? In fact, you would expect all religions to say basically the
same things, because all religions are different cultural expressions
of the same Absolute Truth. Surely, the details may vary, but if all
religions are differently conditioned expressions of the same truth,
you'd expect they would mention the same basic principles.
And that's what the Vedic version teaches us - that all religions are
derived from the original religion from God Himself. If this is indeed
so, it stands to reason that it can be investigated and verified. If
it is a fact, it must be discernable. Otherwise it is just some
belief, some speculation. And that is how religion is generally judged
in modern society - some fanciful speculations and beliefs.
Then again, if there is a supreme entity - that which is known as God
- it is a perfectly logical to assume that He has given a process by
which He can be known. But in the climate of the contemporary culture
that at present rules the world, it is very unpopular to claim to know
the original explanation from the Supreme Himself. How can you make
such an outrageous claim, comes the response... nobody knows the
Absolute Truth. It cannot be known.
So where does this strange idea come from that the Truth cannot be
known? It comes from people, of course. It is something the majority
of the population is brought up to believe in. But it makes no sense.
If there is an Absolute Truth, if there is a God, if there is an
ultimate purpose to life, of course it can be known for certain. Why?
Because God, being the almighty, omnipresent, all-knowing Supreme,
surely He can verify Himself beyond doubt.
And if there is no God, if everything is indeed relative and material,
then it cannot be verified. By definition, you can't prove a negative.
That's the funny thing about life - if God exists, it can be known for
sure, but if God does not exist, it is not possible to know for
certain. Note, this is not my opinion, I'm merely stating a fact - if
God exists, it can be known, because then God can verify His own
existence. And if He does not exist, then it cannot be known. It's as
simple as that.
Note how the propaganda-machine tells us the exact opposite. It calls
religious people believers, and atheists are called unbelievers. How
misleading is that? As an atheist you believe in something that cannot
be verified. But as a theist you believe in something that, at least
theoretically, has a chance of being verified.
Thus it can be concluded that it is a an intellectually superior
position to believe in God, rather than the opposite. The first
assumption, that there is a God, has a chance of verification, whereas
the second position, that there is no God, cannot be verified.
But if you dare point out these things - even though they are
indisputable facts - you are met with a wall of resistance - no, no,
nobody knows the truth. God is merely a fairy tale. To believe in God
is no more different than believing in tooth-fairies and Santa Claus.
That's what we are told.
What we can learn from this, is that society is not ruled by
benevolent forces. What kind of society will educate it's population
in something so obviously false? So if you know the truth and you want
to inform people about it, you are up against a massive wall of
resistance.
Krishna says:
Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness
of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from
doubt. (Bg 7.1)
I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal
and numinous. This being known, nothing further shall remain for you
to know. (Bg. 7.2)
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Catpain 'Merca
Oct 16, 2012, 5:25:31 AM10/16/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:bq2q789c1u0iuhj17...@4ax.com:
>
> If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
> you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
> you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
> friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
> is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
> someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
Jahnu belongs to a cult which promotes argument from authority over
evidence as the arbiter of reality. This is how cults divorce their
victims from everything they hold dear. Victims are actively discouraged
from seeking evidence as basis for assertions made towards them. So
before you decide you might like to try out joining Jahnu's cult, here's a
few things to consider;
Despite more than a decade of purported meditative training, Jahnu (real
id Jesper Wernberg from Denmark) is unable to stop himself sociopathically
trolling the alt.atheism newsgroup.
Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
river Ganges and poured it out of his ear. Jesper's posts when not being
simply abusive are always a desperate appeal to authority. Problem for
Jesper is that he's got zip, nada evidence that his imaginary skydaddy
ever existed and that's the house of cards he's stuck with. In fact he's
got contra-indications of the veracity of his cult's teachings. No big
miracles from the sages in this life time, just a convenient story to
cover their absence. ISKCON = ISCON.
Cult Tactics & Mind Control - B.I.T.E.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5QIOzWMoIo
Cults: The Most Devastated People Are The Children
look around 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmaDKjmcXFA
Faith & Fear: Children of Krishna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeYk7xe3Bsc
Steve Hassan Discusses Faith Based Initiative Funds for Cults with Bill
O'Reilley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjzgStpZ3PY
Catpain Merca
--
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news:bq2q789c1u0iuhj17...@4ax.com:
>
> If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
> you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
> you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
> friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
> is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
> someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
evidence as the arbiter of reality. This is how cults divorce their
victims from everything they hold dear. Victims are actively discouraged
from seeking evidence as basis for assertions made towards them. So
before you decide you might like to try out joining Jahnu's cult, here's a
few things to consider;
Despite more than a decade of purported meditative training, Jahnu (real
id Jesper Wernberg from Denmark) is unable to stop himself sociopathically
trolling the alt.atheism newsgroup.
Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
river Ganges and poured it out of his ear. Jesper's posts when not being
simply abusive are always a desperate appeal to authority. Problem for
Jesper is that he's got zip, nada evidence that his imaginary skydaddy
ever existed and that's the house of cards he's stuck with. In fact he's
got contra-indications of the veracity of his cult's teachings. No big
miracles from the sages in this life time, just a convenient story to
cover their absence. ISKCON = ISCON.
Cult Tactics & Mind Control - B.I.T.E.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5QIOzWMoIo
Cults: The Most Devastated People Are The Children
look around 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmaDKjmcXFA
Faith & Fear: Children of Krishna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeYk7xe3Bsc
Steve Hassan Discusses Faith Based Initiative Funds for Cults with Bill
O'Reilley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjzgStpZ3PY
Catpain Merca
--
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Jahnu
Oct 16, 2012, 6:44:24 AM10/16/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:25:31 +0000 (UTC), "Catpain 'Merde" whined:
>Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
>river Ganges and poured it out of his ear.
Captain Merde is quite happy to believe that an amoeba grew legs and
learned to talk, and that the universe popped out of a tiny point,
like - poof. And before the tiny point there was no space and no time.
I mean, hello, how stupid can you get? hahaha :) See what atheism does
to your brain? And it's not like it was more than barely functioning
to begin with...
Look, here God explains how you became so incredibly dense -
Krishna says:
Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My
transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be. (Bg. 9.11)
Those who are thus bewildered are attracted by demonic and atheistic
views. In that deluded condition, their hopes for liberation, their
fruitive activities, and their culture of knowledge are all defeated.
(Bg. 9.12)
>Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
>river Ganges and poured it out of his ear.
learned to talk, and that the universe popped out of a tiny point,
like - poof. And before the tiny point there was no space and no time.
I mean, hello, how stupid can you get? hahaha :) See what atheism does
to your brain? And it's not like it was more than barely functioning
to begin with...
Look, here God explains how you became so incredibly dense -
Krishna says:
Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My
transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be. (Bg. 9.11)
Those who are thus bewildered are attracted by demonic and atheistic
views. In that deluded condition, their hopes for liberation, their
fruitive activities, and their culture of knowledge are all defeated.
(Bg. 9.12)
Malcolm McMahon
Oct 16, 2012, 6:56:52 AM10/16/12
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On Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:23:08 UTC+1, Jahnu wrote:
> If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
>
> you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
>
> you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
>
> friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
>
> is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
>
> someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
>
>
Nope, we'd just assume they were religious.
> If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
>
> you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
>
> you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
>
> friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
>
> is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
>
> someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
>
>
>
> In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or
>
> less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
>
> certainty such things as science and technology, but if you claim that
>
> you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
>
> God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
>
> you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.
>
>
>
> All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.
>
But religions are evolving entities, under similar selection criteria. Hence they have those elements in common that allow them to survive and propagate themselves.
raven1
Oct 16, 2012, 10:17:49 AM10/16/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:53:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>
>If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
>you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
>you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
>friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
>is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
>someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
Or that they spent too much time navel-gazing and chanting to
imaginary Hindu gods, because their cult told them to.
>In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or
>less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
>certainty such things as science and technology,
Science makes no claim to certainty. All scientific knowledge is
provisional.
>but if you claim that
>you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
>God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
>you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.
No, actually, most people here have read considerable numbers of your
posts before dismissing you as a deranged fanatic.
>All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.
How would you know? Much of what you think you know about Hinduism is
the sectarian interpretation of a cult, and you have demonstrated that
know next to nothing about any other religions. Moreover, the
statement that "all religions claim the same thing" is true mainly at
a superficial level: they all claim knowledge that they cannot support
about subjects that cannot be demonstrated to have empirical
existence. Beyond that, the specifics of their claims vary wildly.
>Lets examine this typical response of modern man. You see, it is
>actually quite foolish. First it is asserted, that everyone says so.
Yes, this is known as setting up a straw man.
>Then the fact that everyone says so, is used to negate what is being
>said.
>If everyone says the same thing, the logical thing to assume is that
>there must be something to it.
No, that is not the "logical thing", at least not for the purpose of
an argument. This is, in fact, the basic logical fallacy of argumentum
ad numerum.
> Not that everyone says the same thing,
>so therefore it must be false. How does that make sense?
I have no idea where you're going with this, but since your initial
premise is wrong, and you've already tripped over two Logic 101
fallacies, it really doesn't matter...
> Where is the
>logic?
Damned if I know...
>In fact, you would expect all religions to say basically the
>same things, because all religions are different cultural expressions
>of the same Absolute Truth.
Whoa there, sport! Different cultural expressions, sure, but you've
just massively assumed your conclusion of an "absolute truth". Is
there a basic logical fallacy you aren't planning on using?
> Surely, the details may vary, but if all
>religions are differently conditioned expressions of the same truth,
>you'd expect they would mention the same basic principles.
Yet they don't. Which makes the rest of your screed pointless. Another
Epic Fail from Jesper.
---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight
wrote:
>
>If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
>you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
>you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
>friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
>is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
>someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
imaginary Hindu gods, because their cult told them to.
>In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or
>less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
>certainty such things as science and technology,
provisional.
>but if you claim that
>you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
>God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
>you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.
posts before dismissing you as a deranged fanatic.
>All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.
the sectarian interpretation of a cult, and you have demonstrated that
know next to nothing about any other religions. Moreover, the
statement that "all religions claim the same thing" is true mainly at
a superficial level: they all claim knowledge that they cannot support
about subjects that cannot be demonstrated to have empirical
existence. Beyond that, the specifics of their claims vary wildly.
>Lets examine this typical response of modern man. You see, it is
>actually quite foolish. First it is asserted, that everyone says so.
>Then the fact that everyone says so, is used to negate what is being
>said.
>If everyone says the same thing, the logical thing to assume is that
>there must be something to it.
an argument. This is, in fact, the basic logical fallacy of argumentum
ad numerum.
> Not that everyone says the same thing,
>so therefore it must be false. How does that make sense?
premise is wrong, and you've already tripped over two Logic 101
fallacies, it really doesn't matter...
> Where is the
>logic?
Damned if I know...
>In fact, you would expect all religions to say basically the
>same things, because all religions are different cultural expressions
>of the same Absolute Truth.
just massively assumed your conclusion of an "absolute truth". Is
there a basic logical fallacy you aren't planning on using?
> Surely, the details may vary, but if all
>religions are differently conditioned expressions of the same truth,
>you'd expect they would mention the same basic principles.
Epic Fail from Jesper.
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight
raven1
Oct 16, 2012, 10:23:56 AM10/16/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:14:24 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:25:31 +0000 (UTC), "Catpain 'Merde" whined:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
>>river Ganges and poured it out of his ear.
>
>Captain Merde is quite happy to believe that an amoeba grew legs and
>learned to talk,
Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>and that the universe popped out of a tiny point,
>like - poof.
"Popped out" might not be the most elegant phrase, but the available
evidence all points towards an in initial singularity.
>And before the tiny point there was no space and no time.
"Space" and "time" are meaningless outside the context of a frame of
reference (ie: a universe). But it's hardly fair to ask you to wrap
your head around such concepts, as you've already decided "it happened
by magic" is a perfectly reasonable explanation.
>I mean, hello, how stupid can you get? hahaha :)
I don't know, but you seem determined to show the world.
wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:25:31 +0000 (UTC), "Catpain 'Merde" whined:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
>>river Ganges and poured it out of his ear.
>
>Captain Merde is quite happy to believe that an amoeba grew legs and
>learned to talk,
evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>and that the universe popped out of a tiny point,
>like - poof.
evidence all points towards an in initial singularity.
>And before the tiny point there was no space and no time.
reference (ie: a universe). But it's hardly fair to ask you to wrap
your head around such concepts, as you've already decided "it happened
by magic" is a perfectly reasonable explanation.
>I mean, hello, how stupid can you get? hahaha :)
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 16, 2012, 11:13:14 AM10/16/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:17:49 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:53:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
>>you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
>>you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
>>friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
>>is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
>>someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
>
>Or that they spent too much time navel-gazing and chanting to
>imaginary Hindu gods, because their cult told them to.
Same thing - especially when they refuse either to put up or shut up.
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:53:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
>>you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
>>you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
>>friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
>>is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
>>someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
>
>Or that they spent too much time navel-gazing and chanting to
>imaginary Hindu gods, because their cult told them to.
Like Jesper Wernberg.
>>In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or
>>less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
>>certainty such things as science and technology,
>
>Science makes no claim to certainty. All scientific knowledge is
>provisional.
>>but if you claim that
>>you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
>>God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
>>you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.
hypothetical god only their fellow cultists believe in, they _are_
deranged fanatics.
>No, actually, most people here have read considerable numbers of your
>posts before dismissing you as a deranged fanatic.
deluded.
>>All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.
>
>How would you know? Much of what you think you know about Hinduism is
>the sectarian interpretation of a cult, and you have demonstrated that
>know next to nothing about any other religions. Moreover, the
>statement that "all religions claim the same thing" is true mainly at
>a superficial level: they all claim knowledge that they cannot support
>about subjects that cannot be demonstrated to have empirical
>existence. Beyond that, the specifics of their claims vary wildly.
Krishnas the way mainstream Christians treat the moonies.
>>Lets examine this typical response of modern man. You see, it is
>>actually quite foolish. First it is asserted, that everyone says so.
>
>Yes, this is known as setting up a straw man.
>>Then the fact that everyone says so, is used to negate what is being
>>said.
>
>>If everyone says the same thing, the logical thing to assume is that
>>there must be something to it.
>
>No, that is not the "logical thing", at least not for the purpose of
>an argument. This is, in fact, the basic logical fallacy of argumentum
>ad numerum.
>> Not that everyone says the same thing,
>>so therefore it must be false. How does that make sense?
>
>I have no idea where you're going with this, but since your initial
>premise is wrong, and you've already tripped over two Logic 101
>fallacies, it really doesn't matter...
>> Where is the
>>logic?
>
>Damned if I know...
>
>>In fact, you would expect all religions to say basically the
>>same things, because all religions are different cultural expressions
>>of the same Absolute Truth.
>Whoa there, sport! Different cultural expressions, sure, but you've
>just massively assumed your conclusion of an "absolute truth". Is
>there a basic logical fallacy you aren't planning on using?
granted, is unfounded.
>> Surely, the details may vary, but if all
>>religions are differently conditioned expressions of the same truth,
>>you'd expect they would mention the same basic principles.
>
>Yet they don't. Which makes the rest of your screed pointless. Another
>Epic Fail from Jesper.
than one occasion said he's only here to take pot shots at us because
his dislike for us.
>>And that's what the Vedic version teaches us - that all religions are
>>derived from the original religion from God Himself. If this is indeed
And what fucking "God himself" was the deluded, question-begging moron
talking about?
>>so, it stands to reason that it can be investigated and verified. If
>>it is a fact, it must be discernable. Otherwise it is just some
>>belief, some speculation. And that is how religion is generally judged
>>in modern society - some fanciful speculations and beliefs.
>>Then again, if there is a supreme entity - that which is known as God
>>- it is a perfectly logical to assume that He has given a process by
>>which He can be known.
Does the retard have a point?
>> But in the climate of the contemporary culture
>>that at present rules the world, it is very unpopular to claim to know
>>the original explanation from the Supreme Himself.
bullshitting about?
>> How can you make
>>such an outrageous claim, comes the response... nobody knows the
>>Absolute Truth. It cannot be known.
>>So where does this strange idea come from that the Truth cannot be
>>known? It comes from people, of course. It is something the majority
>>of the population is brought up to believe in. But it makes no sense.
>>If there is an Absolute Truth, if there is a God, if there is an
>>ultimate purpose to life, of course it can be known for certain. Why?
>>Because God, being the almighty, omnipresent, all-knowing Supreme,
>>surely He can verify Himself beyond doubt.
>>And if there is no God, if everything is indeed relative and material,
>>then it cannot be verified. By definition, you can't prove a negative.
>>That's the funny thing about life - if God exists, it can be known for
>>sure, but if God does not exist, it is not possible to know for
>>certain. Note, this is not my opinion, I'm merely stating a fact - if
>>God exists, it can be known, because then God can verify His own
>>existence. And if He does not exist, then it cannot be known. It's as
>>simple as that.
>>Note how the propaganda-machine tells us the exact opposite.
about?
>> It calls
>>religious people believers, and atheists are called unbelievers. How
>>misleading is that? As an atheist you believe in something that cannot
>>be verified.
>> But as a theist you believe in something that, at least
>>theoretically, has a chance of being verified.
But being a mentally ill, deluded in-your-face obsessive he is
psychologically incapable.
>>Thus it can be concluded that it is a an intellectually superior
>>position to believe in God,
>> rather than the opposite.
Strawman.
>> The first
>>assumption, that there is a God, has a chance of verification, whereas
>>the second position, that there is no God, cannot be verified.
the difference?) about something the deluded crackpot is incapable of
understand is merely his irrelevant religious belief that we wouldn't
give a flying fuck about if he kept it to himself, is falsifiable -
all he has to do is provide the verification for it that he bullshits
about.
>>But if you dare point out these things - even though they are
>>indisputable facts - you are met with a wall of resistance - no, no,
>>nobody knows the truth. God is merely a fairy tale. To believe in God
>>is no more different than believing in tooth-fairies and Santa Claus.
>>That's what we are told.
BACKS UP HIS IN-OUR-FACE STUPIDITY.
>>What we can learn from this, is that society is not ruled by
>>benevolent forces. What kind of society will educate it's population
>>in something so obviously false?
>> So if you know the truth and you want
>>to inform people about it, you are up against a massive wall of
>>resistance.
If it really were, they could prove it was.
And they wouldn't need to lie about those who don't share their
beliefs.
>>Krishna says:
Mythical figures don't say anything outside the deluded fantasies of
the brainwashed.
>>Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness
>>of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from
>>doubt. (Bg 7.1)
>>
>>I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal
>>and numinous. This being known, nothing further shall remain for you
>>to know. (Bg. 7.2)
[bullshit deleted]
>---
>raven1
>aa # 1096
>EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>BAAWA Knight
Why isn't Jesper in a strait jacket?
>raven1
>aa # 1096
>EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>BAAWA Knight
John Locke
Oct 16, 2012, 4:04:03 PM10/16/12
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>In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or
>less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
>certainty such things as science and technology, but if you claim that
>you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
>God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
>you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic...
>less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
>certainty such things as science and technology, but if you claim that
>you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
>God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life,
>
...just as you would be dismissed for talking to a giant rabbit or the
Blue Fairy. Same difference except that talking to a proclaimed god
is viewed by society as a religious experience thus granting the
mentally ill theist immunity to commitment to an asylum. Beware,
because some day, that view may change.
Hope Simmers
Oct 16, 2012, 4:33:34 PM10/16/12
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***GOD RULES***
1. Don't exist.
2. See #1.
1. Don't exist.
2. See #1.
Jahnu
Oct 16, 2012, 8:35:23 PM10/16/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe. It's not like
atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an
atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely
nonsense.
---but,but, but It's not like the amoeba grew legs and learned to
talk. It happened over long time through series of little changes.
hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
elaborate on that, Birdman?
Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate. The last thing he wants to do
is have to explain the rationale behind his lame convictions.
Constance Knoring
Oct 16, 2012, 9:28:11 PM10/16/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:o8ur789vnqf8qmjrt...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
> <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
> Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs
> and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe. It's not like
> atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an
> atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely
> nonsense.
>
> ---but,but, but It's not like the amoeba grew legs and learned to
> talk. It happened over long time through series of little changes.
>
> hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
> Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
> amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
> have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
> species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
> elaborate on that, Birdman?
>
> Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate. The last thing he wants to do
> is have to explain the rationale behind his lame convictions.
>
> Hey look, Birdman, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
..............
another stuipd cristo-fascist hindu dumping his fucking shit on the world
, deludid that its the word of some fucking god that doesnt fucking exist
cuzz hes two fucking stupid to think for himself!!!!!!!!!!
what a peace of fucking work you are!!!!!!! is someone paying you to push
all that dogshit on people , or are you just fucked up???????????
go piss up a rope , assuming you even know how!!!!!!!!!1
what a fuckin lose ryou are!!!!!!!1
news:o8ur789vnqf8qmjrt...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
> <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
> Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs
> and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe. It's not like
> atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an
> atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely
> nonsense.
>
> ---but,but, but It's not like the amoeba grew legs and learned to
> talk. It happened over long time through series of little changes.
>
> hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
> Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
> amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
> have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
> species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
> elaborate on that, Birdman?
>
> Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate. The last thing he wants to do
> is have to explain the rationale behind his lame convictions.
>
> Hey look, Birdman, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
another stuipd cristo-fascist hindu dumping his fucking shit on the world
, deludid that its the word of some fucking god that doesnt fucking exist
cuzz hes two fucking stupid to think for himself!!!!!!!!!!
what a peace of fucking work you are!!!!!!! is someone paying you to push
all that dogshit on people , or are you just fucked up???????????
go piss up a rope , assuming you even know how!!!!!!!!!1
what a fuckin lose ryou are!!!!!!!1
Jahnu
Oct 16, 2012, 9:51:10 PM10/16/12
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:28:11 +0000 (UTC), Constance Knoring barked:
>another stuipd cristo-fascist hindu dumping his fucking shit on the world
>, deludid that its the word of some fucking god that doesnt fucking exist
>cuzz hes two fucking stupid to think for himself!!!!!!!!!!
>
>what a peace of fucking work you are!!!!!!! is someone paying you to push
>all that dogshit on people , or are you just fucked up???????????
>
>go piss up a rope , assuming you even know how!!!!!!!!!1
>
>what a fuckin lose ryou are!!!!!!!1
Gee, listen to this dog bark... You remind me of one of these little
dogs, that jump up and down on all four legs, and barks hysterically,
when a big dog shows up :)
Hey look, what do you know, you are also in the Bhagavad Gita -
Krishna says:
Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demons
become envious of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated
in their own bodies and in the bodies of others, and blaspheme against
the real religion. (Bg 16.18)
>another stuipd cristo-fascist hindu dumping his fucking shit on the world
>, deludid that its the word of some fucking god that doesnt fucking exist
>cuzz hes two fucking stupid to think for himself!!!!!!!!!!
>
>what a peace of fucking work you are!!!!!!! is someone paying you to push
>all that dogshit on people , or are you just fucked up???????????
>
>go piss up a rope , assuming you even know how!!!!!!!!!1
>
>what a fuckin lose ryou are!!!!!!!1
dogs, that jump up and down on all four legs, and barks hysterically,
when a big dog shows up :)
Hey look, what do you know, you are also in the Bhagavad Gita -
Krishna says:
Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demons
become envious of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated
in their own bodies and in the bodies of others, and blaspheme against
the real religion. (Bg 16.18)
Constance Knoring
Oct 16, 2012, 10:16:39 PM10/16/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:pb3s78l1ku0vj197c...@4ax.com:
you ever been to prison boi??????? you woodnt last one day without
getting fucking shivved or punched or assraped or something violent , and
you know why?????? cuzz your a fuckni goofball!!!!!!!
you need to be locked up in the fucking mental hospitol cuzz your such a
deluded sun of a fucked up bitch , yoore mental state is fucked!!!!!!!
totally fucking fucked!!!!!!!!
if you called someone a fucking dog in prison do you know what will
fucking happen to you???????? theyll make you crawl on your fucken hands
and nees and beg to be gang-assraped and then thell knock out yer teeth
and make you give bloody blow jobs to eveyr fucker who fucking wants
one!!!!!! yore a stupid hsit!!!!!!!!
go piss up a fucking rope!!!!!!!!!
news:pb3s78l1ku0vj197c...@4ax.com:
getting fucking shivved or punched or assraped or something violent , and
you know why?????? cuzz your a fuckni goofball!!!!!!!
you need to be locked up in the fucking mental hospitol cuzz your such a
deluded sun of a fucked up bitch , yoore mental state is fucked!!!!!!!
totally fucking fucked!!!!!!!!
if you called someone a fucking dog in prison do you know what will
fucking happen to you???????? theyll make you crawl on your fucken hands
and nees and beg to be gang-assraped and then thell knock out yer teeth
and make you give bloody blow jobs to eveyr fucker who fucking wants
one!!!!!! yore a stupid hsit!!!!!!!!
go piss up a fucking rope!!!!!!!!!
Jahnu
Oct 17, 2012, 2:19:40 AM10/17/12
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:16:39 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring ranted:
>you ever been to prison boi??????? you woodnt last one day without
>getting fucking shivved or punched or assraped or something violent , and
>you know why?????? cuzz your a fuckni goofball!!!!!!!
>
>you need to be locked up in the fucking mental hospitol cuzz your such a
>deluded sun of a fucked up bitch , yoore mental state is fucked!!!!!!!
>totally fucking fucked!!!!!!!!
>
>if you called someone a fucking dog in prison do you know what will
>fucking happen to you???????? theyll make you crawl on your fucken hands
>and nees and beg to be gang-assraped and then thell knock out yer teeth
>and make you give bloody blow jobs to eveyr fucker who fucking wants
>one!!!!!! yore a stupid hsit!!!!!!!!
>
>go piss up a fucking rope!!!!!!!!!
hehe, dude, you really need to get laid. Of course, you were born
ugly, so you've always had a hard time getting laid, but your lack of
personal hygiene dosn't help matters. Have you tried with a shower...
I mean, apart from the weekly one you have in the sink? Try that, then
report back if it helped. Who knows, maybe even a speech therapist
could help you... hahaha :)
Hey look, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg 4.40)
>you ever been to prison boi??????? you woodnt last one day without
>getting fucking shivved or punched or assraped or something violent , and
>you know why?????? cuzz your a fuckni goofball!!!!!!!
>
>you need to be locked up in the fucking mental hospitol cuzz your such a
>deluded sun of a fucked up bitch , yoore mental state is fucked!!!!!!!
>totally fucking fucked!!!!!!!!
>
>if you called someone a fucking dog in prison do you know what will
>fucking happen to you???????? theyll make you crawl on your fucken hands
>and nees and beg to be gang-assraped and then thell knock out yer teeth
>and make you give bloody blow jobs to eveyr fucker who fucking wants
>one!!!!!! yore a stupid hsit!!!!!!!!
>
>go piss up a fucking rope!!!!!!!!!
ugly, so you've always had a hard time getting laid, but your lack of
personal hygiene dosn't help matters. Have you tried with a shower...
I mean, apart from the weekly one you have in the sink? Try that, then
report back if it helped. Who knows, maybe even a speech therapist
could help you... hahaha :)
Hey look, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg 4.40)
Father Haskell
Oct 17, 2012, 2:24:26 AM10/17/12
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On Oct 16, 3:23 am, Jahnu <Jahnud...@gamail.com> wrote:
> If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
> you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
> you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
> friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
> is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
> someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
That's pretty much unanimous opinion every time you post.
> If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything
> you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all
> you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
> friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it
> is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
> someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
Jahnu
Oct 17, 2012, 2:36:15 AM10/17/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:24:26 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>That's pretty much unanimous opinion every time you post.
Of course. I'd expect nothing less in a group of the intellectually
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>That's pretty much unanimous opinion every time you post.
challenged, like aa - the biggest assembly place of crows in the
world.
Krishna says:
What is night for all beings is the time of awakening for the
self-controlled; and the time of awakening for all beings is night for
the introspective sage. (Bg 2.69)
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 17, 2012, 2:57:08 AM10/17/12
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In article
<a7d28fe0-675e-4952...@s18g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
<piggybacking>
If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying.
To not change after that would be insanity.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
<a7d28fe0-675e-4952...@s18g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying.
To not change after that would be insanity.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
Jahnu
Oct 17, 2012, 3:08:47 AM10/17/12
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:57:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
>
>Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying.
>To not change after that would be insanity.
Krishna says:Krishna says:
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
>
>Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying.
>To not change after that would be insanity.
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.
--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12
raven1
Oct 17, 2012, 12:31:10 PM10/17/12
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:05:23 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
>Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs
>and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe.
I believe no such thing, but since you're completely ignorant of
evolutionary biology, it's hardly surprising that you'd make such a
stupid mistake.
> It's not like
>atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an
>atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely
>nonsense.
Please feel free to explain how "this phenomenon occurred by natural
processes" is less likely than "an anthropomorphic blue God made this
happen by magic". Do you have any clue how childish your position is?
Jesper, atheists are a minority of people who accept evolution as an
observed fact: there are huge numbers of theists who accept "evolution
is HOW God did it".
wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
>Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs
>and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe.
evolutionary biology, it's hardly surprising that you'd make such a
stupid mistake.
> It's not like
>atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an
>atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely
>nonsense.
processes" is less likely than "an anthropomorphic blue God made this
happen by magic". Do you have any clue how childish your position is?
Jesper, atheists are a minority of people who accept evolution as an
observed fact: there are huge numbers of theists who accept "evolution
is HOW God did it".
Catpain 'Merca
Oct 17, 2012, 12:33:36 PM10/17/12
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Demented troll Jesper-Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> cried like a little
girl in news:29ms78d4flev9nngr...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:57:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
>>
>>Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying.
>>To not change after that would be insanity.
>
> Krishna says:Krishna says:
Kr, Kr, Kr, Krudna says: Chakka Khan! What an oaf you are Jesper, so
desperate to appeal to authority that you type over your own words.
>
> O biggity boggity boo bum bip gadda gadda whang diddly diddly whap,
Uh oh Jesper, you're still locked into getting gratification spamming AA,
looks like you're doomed. Lucky for you the whole krispnan ISK-A-CON
Bhlagformoney Gitter is based on fantasy.
>
>
>
> Have a look at me in rubber pants -
No thanks.
>
> http://youtu.be/2uRzbs1f9Vzg8
> http://youtu.be/Nd1xVX2m5CF1M
> http://youtu.be/jeMcO63UxDGag
> http://youtu.be/zg2fks49py2-c
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/1136729477956865733014/Jahnu
> http://www.facebook.com/groups/1384626029613179/
>
Captain Merca
--
.
girl in news:29ms78d4flev9nngr...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:57:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
>>
>>Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying.
>>To not change after that would be insanity.
>
> Krishna says:Krishna says:
desperate to appeal to authority that you type over your own words.
>
> O biggity boggity boo bum bip gadda gadda whang diddly diddly whap,
share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly be experienced by those
engaged in sense gratification.
>
> --Sydney's Blatagapparattawhapavan 11.14.12
engaged in sense gratification.
>
Uh oh Jesper, you're still locked into getting gratification spamming AA,
looks like you're doomed. Lucky for you the whole krispnan ISK-A-CON
Bhlagformoney Gitter is based on fantasy.
>
>
>
> Have a look at me in rubber pants -
No thanks.
>
> http://youtu.be/2uRzbs1f9Vzg8
> http://youtu.be/Nd1xVX2m5CF1M
> http://youtu.be/jeMcO63UxDGag
> http://youtu.be/zg2fks49py2-c
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/1136729477956865733014/Jahnu
> http://www.facebook.com/groups/1384626029613179/
>
Captain Merca
--
.
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 17, 2012, 12:40:47 PM10/17/12
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>On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
>Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs
>and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe.
Why can' you stop lying about the very people you lie to?
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about
>>evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in
>>the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
>>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
>Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs
>and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe.
> It's not like
>atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an
>atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely
>nonsense.
and nastiness about those who don't believe what you do, under
control?
>---but,but, but It's not like the amoeba grew legs and learned to
>talk. It happened over long time through series of little changes.
- it is accepted by educated people of all religions.
>hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
>Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
>amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
>have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
>species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
>elaborate on that, Birdman?
>Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate. The last thing he wants to do
>is have to explain the rationale behind his lame convictions.
>Hey look, Birdman, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
relevance?
raven1
Oct 17, 2012, 6:30:05 PM10/17/12
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:40:47 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
<chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Why can't your co-religionists in alt.religion.vaisnava keep your lies
>and nastiness about those who don't believe what you do, under
>control?
Does anyone besides Jesper actually post there, other than atheists
<chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Why can't your co-religionists in alt.religion.vaisnava keep your lies
>and nastiness about those who don't believe what you do, under
>control?
responding to threads he cross-posts here?
Jahnu
Oct 17, 2012, 8:47:16 PM10/17/12
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:31:10 -0400, raven1 whined:
>I believe no such thing,
Yep, that's exactly what you believe.
--but, but, but don't you get it? it happened over long, long time
through gradual series of little changes. It's not like an amoeba grew
being. It's not that it becomes less so, because it happened over long
time through series of changes. But since this sounds rather magical,
atheists have clouded their creation myth in a lot of BS and
scientific mumbo-jumbo, calling it natural selection. hahaha :) Tell
me this Birdman - whose selection? Selection entails conscious
intelligence.
--- no.no, wah, wah, it is all unconscious, unintelligent selection,
it's all completely natural processes. No magic or intelligence
involved.
"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
>but since you're completely ignorant of
>evolutionary biology, it's hardly surprising that you'd make such a
>stupid mistake.
It's not a mistake. it's the logical ramification of your retard
belief system. So you are either too stupid to realize the
ramifications of your own silly beliefs or you are a lying scumbag.
Which is it, Birdman... are you merely stupid or are you a lying
scumbag? Or both? Which is it, Birdman? Come on, don't be shy, let's
hear it.
>Please feel free to explain how "this phenomenon occurred by natural
>processes" is less likely than "an anthropomorphic blue God made this
>happen by magic". >Do you have any clue how childish your position is?
First the unverse pops out of a point, then the resulting chemicals
develop into an amoeba that gradually develops into a human being??
And it's all natural, no magic about it - hahaha :) talk about being
childish.
Do you now realize how damaged your brain is? Atheism really does make
you stupid, and you are the prime proof of it.
>Jesper, atheists are a minority of people who accept evolution as an
>observed fact: there are huge numbers of theists who accept "evolution
>is HOW God did it".
That's just because their primitive religion gives no viable
alternative to ET, so they have caved in to the massive propaganda of
ET in the Coca-cola culture. That means they are no better than
atheists.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau
>I believe no such thing,
--but, but, but don't you get it? it happened over long, long time
through gradual series of little changes. It's not like an amoeba grew
legs and learned to talk.
But that's exactly what ET suggests - an amoeba grew into human
being. It's not that it becomes less so, because it happened over long
time through series of changes. But since this sounds rather magical,
atheists have clouded their creation myth in a lot of BS and
scientific mumbo-jumbo, calling it natural selection. hahaha :) Tell
me this Birdman - whose selection? Selection entails conscious
intelligence.
--- no.no, wah, wah, it is all unconscious, unintelligent selection,
it's all completely natural processes. No magic or intelligence
involved.
"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
>but since you're completely ignorant of
>evolutionary biology, it's hardly surprising that you'd make such a
>stupid mistake.
belief system. So you are either too stupid to realize the
ramifications of your own silly beliefs or you are a lying scumbag.
Which is it, Birdman... are you merely stupid or are you a lying
scumbag? Or both? Which is it, Birdman? Come on, don't be shy, let's
hear it.
>Please feel free to explain how "this phenomenon occurred by natural
>processes" is less likely than "an anthropomorphic blue God made this
>happen by magic". >Do you have any clue how childish your position is?
develop into an amoeba that gradually develops into a human being??
And it's all natural, no magic about it - hahaha :) talk about being
childish.
Do you now realize how damaged your brain is? Atheism really does make
you stupid, and you are the prime proof of it.
>Jesper, atheists are a minority of people who accept evolution as an
>observed fact: there are huge numbers of theists who accept "evolution
>is HOW God did it".
alternative to ET, so they have caved in to the massive propaganda of
ET in the Coca-cola culture. That means they are no better than
atheists.
"The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and
ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and
subtlety of Vedic culture." - Henry David Thoreau
Jahnu
Oct 17, 2012, 8:56:23 PM10/17/12
to
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:33:36 +0000 (UTC), "Catpain 'Merde" ranted:
>Kr, Kr, Kr, Krudna Chakka Khan! O biggity boggity boo bum bip
>gadda gadda whang diddly diddly whap, Blatagapparattawhapavan
Hey Catpiss Merde, are you sure you are alright, want me to call 911?
The Brihad-vishnu Purana says:
"Simply by chanting one holy name of Hari, a sinful man can counteract
the reactions to more sins than he is able to commit."
>Kr, Kr, Kr, Krudna Chakka Khan! O biggity boggity boo bum bip
>gadda gadda whang diddly diddly whap, Blatagapparattawhapavan
Hey Catpiss Merde, are you sure you are alright, want me to call 911?
The Brihad-vishnu Purana says:
"Simply by chanting one holy name of Hari, a sinful man can counteract
the reactions to more sins than he is able to commit."
Constance Knoring
Oct 17, 2012, 11:37:54 PM10/17/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:cmis78tvfn2c1v493...@4ax.com:
what a asshole you are , twistign things cuzz thats you , totally fucking
fucked up , full of shit and fucking proud to be full of shit cuzz your
too fuckin stupidd to get it!!!!!!!!!
hey zipperhead go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
news:cmis78tvfn2c1v493...@4ax.com:
fucked up , full of shit and fucking proud to be full of shit cuzz your
too fuckin stupidd to get it!!!!!!!!!
hey zipperhead go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
Jahnu
Oct 18, 2012, 12:20:53 AM10/18/12
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:37:54 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring screeched:
>what a asshole you are , twistign things cuzz thats you , totally fucking
>fucked up , full of shit and fucking proud to be full of shit cuzz your
>too fuckin stupidd to get it!!!!!!!!!
>
>hey zipperhead go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
Don't take it out on me, you can't get laid. Didn't you hear what I
just told you? Take a shower, dude. You do have a shower cabin in the
trailer you live in, right? :)
Hey look, God describes sub-humans like you in the Bhagavad Gita. What
more proof do you need :)
Krishna says:
Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are lowest among
mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the
atheistic nature of demons do not surrender unto Me. (Bg 7.15)
>what a asshole you are , twistign things cuzz thats you , totally fucking
>fucked up , full of shit and fucking proud to be full of shit cuzz your
>too fuckin stupidd to get it!!!!!!!!!
>
>hey zipperhead go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
just told you? Take a shower, dude. You do have a shower cabin in the
trailer you live in, right? :)
Hey look, God describes sub-humans like you in the Bhagavad Gita. What
more proof do you need :)
Krishna says:
Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are lowest among
mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the
atheistic nature of demons do not surrender unto Me. (Bg 7.15)
Constance Knoring
Oct 18, 2012, 12:23:07 AM10/18/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:q80v78lp3ues8vm07...@4ax.com:
fuck you i can always get a hooker , dont you fucking know how the
fucking reel world works?????? yore a fucking moraon!!!!!
did you piss up a fucking rope yet you piece of shit??????
news:q80v78lp3ues8vm07...@4ax.com:
fucking reel world works?????? yore a fucking moraon!!!!!
did you piss up a fucking rope yet you piece of shit??????
Jahnu
Oct 18, 2012, 12:33:53 AM10/18/12
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:23:07 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring raved:
>fuck you i can always get a hooker ,
Sure, till she lays eyes on you, then no more hooker for you :)
>dont you fucking know how the
>fucking reel world works?????? yore a fucking moraon!!!!!
moraon? Never hear of a moraon before, what's that? And reel world? is
that a world on reels? :) Hey, lets reel the world in... hahaha ;)
>did you piss up a fucking rope yet you piece of shit??????
Why on earth, would I wanna do that, moron? Is that some kind of
pastime of yours... pissing up ropes? :)
Look, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible. (Bg 7.25)
>fuck you i can always get a hooker ,
>dont you fucking know how the
>fucking reel world works?????? yore a fucking moraon!!!!!
that a world on reels? :) Hey, lets reel the world in... hahaha ;)
>did you piss up a fucking rope yet you piece of shit??????
pastime of yours... pissing up ropes? :)
Look, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
am unborn and infallible. (Bg 7.25)
Constance Knoring
Oct 18, 2012, 12:40:17 AM10/18/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:c21v7894rldtkthgk...@4ax.com:
you fuckin smartsass fucking pukewad , pissing up a rope is good for you
cuzz youll get fucking piss all over yourself!!!!!!!! the fact taht you
cant fuckin figguer that out shows howe fuckin stupid yoo ar!!!!!!!
news:c21v7894rldtkthgk...@4ax.com:
cuzz youll get fucking piss all over yourself!!!!!!!! the fact taht you
cant fuckin figguer that out shows howe fuckin stupid yoo ar!!!!!!!
Jahnu
Oct 18, 2012, 12:49:15 AM10/18/12
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:40:17 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring went:
<ssscreetch pppfttt zzzprr plonk poof, then short circuit>
Krishna says:
O mighty-armed Arjuna, according to the Vedanta there are five causes
for the accomplishment of all action. Now learn of these from Me. (Bg.
18.13)
The place of action [the body], the performer, the various senses, the
many different kinds of endeavor, and ultimately the Supersoul—these
are the five factors of action. (Bg. 18.14)
Whatever right or wrong action a man performs by body, mind or speech
is caused by these five factors. (Bg. 18.15)
Therefore one who thinks himself the only doer, not considering the
five factors, is certainly not very intelligent and cannot see things
as they are. (Bg. 18.16)
One who is not motivated by false ego, whose intelligence is not
entangled, though he kills men in this world, does not kill. Nor is he
bound by his actions. (Bg. 18.17)
<ssscreetch pppfttt zzzprr plonk poof, then short circuit>
Krishna says:
O mighty-armed Arjuna, according to the Vedanta there are five causes
for the accomplishment of all action. Now learn of these from Me. (Bg.
18.13)
The place of action [the body], the performer, the various senses, the
many different kinds of endeavor, and ultimately the Supersoul—these
are the five factors of action. (Bg. 18.14)
Whatever right or wrong action a man performs by body, mind or speech
is caused by these five factors. (Bg. 18.15)
Therefore one who thinks himself the only doer, not considering the
five factors, is certainly not very intelligent and cannot see things
as they are. (Bg. 18.16)
One who is not motivated by false ego, whose intelligence is not
entangled, though he kills men in this world, does not kill. Nor is he
bound by his actions. (Bg. 18.17)
raven1
Oct 18, 2012, 9:27:07 AM10/18/12
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:17:16 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:31:10 -0400, raven1 whined:
>
>>I believe no such thing,
>
>Yep, that's exactly what you believe.
No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
strawman that I don't support.
wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:31:10 -0400, raven1 whined:
>
>>I believe no such thing,
>
>Yep, that's exactly what you believe.
but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
strawman that I don't support.
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 18, 2012, 10:26:09 AM10/18/12
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:27:07 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:17:16 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:31:10 -0400, raven1 whined:
>>
>>>I believe no such thing,
>>
>>Yep, that's exactly what you believe.
>
>No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
>but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
>particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
>strawman that I don't support.
Jesper is hardly alone in this, just nastier and more in-your-face
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:17:16 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:31:10 -0400, raven1 whined:
>>
>>>I believe no such thing,
>>
>>Yep, that's exactly what you believe.
>
>No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
>but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
>particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
>strawman that I don't support.
about it than most theists.
Theists imagine their god is an objective reality and this colours how
they view everything including atheists.
The vast majority can't get their minds around the idea that it could
be merely somebody else's belief we don't happen to share.
So in what passes for their minds, we actively believe their god
[which is real] doesn't exist.
And it goes downhill from there.
Brian E. Clark
Oct 18, 2012, 4:42:41 PM10/18/12
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In article <40eq78tv5o7pbqvv5...@4ax.com>,
Jahn...@gamail.com says...
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:25:31 +0000 (UTC), "Catpain 'Merde" whined:
> > Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
> >river Ganges and poured it out of his ear.
>
> Captain Merde is quite happy to believe that an amoeba grew legs and
> learned to talk,
Amoebae don't need legs; they can extend new pseudopodia
whenever needed.
No biologist has proposed that any amoeba ever learned to
talk. Plankton from SpongeBob SquarePants is a different
story.
> and that the universe popped out of a tiny point,
<Shrug> That's what the evidence leads us to conclude.
It's ironic that you dismiss the scientists' somewhat
counterintuitive explanations which have mountains of
physical and cosmological evidence under them in favor of
the just as counterintuitive religious explanations
supported by no evidences whatsoever.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Jahn...@gamail.com says...
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:25:31 +0000 (UTC), "Catpain 'Merde" whined:
> > Jesper is quite happy to believe that an ancient sage drank the entire
> >river Ganges and poured it out of his ear.
>
> Captain Merde is quite happy to believe that an amoeba grew legs and
> learned to talk,
Amoebae don't need legs; they can extend new pseudopodia
whenever needed.
No biologist has proposed that any amoeba ever learned to
talk. Plankton from SpongeBob SquarePants is a different
story.
> and that the universe popped out of a tiny point,
<Shrug> That's what the evidence leads us to conclude.
It's ironic that you dismiss the scientists' somewhat
counterintuitive explanations which have mountains of
physical and cosmological evidence under them in favor of
the just as counterintuitive religious explanations
supported by no evidences whatsoever.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Jahnu
Oct 18, 2012, 8:00:44 PM10/18/12
to
>No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
>but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
>particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
>strawman that I don't support.
Really? Then please tell us how you imagine the human evolved. Come on
>but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
>particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
>strawman that I don't support.
lets hear it :)
Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate trying to avoid having to
explain the details about his idiotic beliefs.
"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
a variety of wishful speculations." -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
University, in an Oxford University Press text.
Jahnu
Oct 18, 2012, 8:12:15 PM10/18/12
to
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:42:41 -0400, Brian E. Clark piped:
>It's ironic that you dismiss the scientists' somewhat
>counterintuitive explanations which have mountains of
>physical and cosmological evidence under them in favor of
>the just as counterintuitive religious explanations
>supported by no evidences whatsoever.
There is not even the slightest empirical evidence that one species
evolved from another through series of changes. ET is the retarded
creation myth of atheists, and it is being shoved down the throat of
modern man as a scientific fact. You have just proven yourself to be a
good little Mickey Mouse clone without a trace of independent
thinking. All you have managed is to perpetuate the myths and dogmas
of the Coca-cola culture
Discoveries Show Early Mankind Was Advanced
by Brian Thomas, M.S.
Evolution holds that mankind emerged from łprimitive˛ primates about
3.5 million years ago. Afterward, man continued to add habits and
features that distinguished him from his humble predecessors,
resulting fairly recently in what are considered modern humans.
However, new artifact finds have not corroborated this naturalistic
story.
Dr. Michael Petraglia of the University of Oxford led an investigation
into an ancient population site in India that had been buried under
volcanic debris. Beneath the ash, he discovered stone tools. A
university press release related that łaccording to the team a
potentially ground-breaking implication of the new work is that the
species responsible for making the stone tools in India was Homo
sapiens.˛1
This finding contradicts the evolutionary molecular clock date of
mankindąs presence in India by łabout 15,000 years.˛ But this is to be
expected, since different molecules łtick˛ at different rates, and
thus make poor clocks.2
In other news, unexpected evidence of symbolic thought, a uniquely
human attribute, was found in Western Cape, South Africa.
Cross-hatching patterns on bird eggs, decorated for use as carrying
baskets, were made during the middle Stone Age of that area, a
tradition that is now ła widespread modern practice.˛ The results,
published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,
revealed that whoever made these markings had łsocial, cultural, and
cognitive underpinnings that overlap with those of modern people˛
(emphasis added).3
And a discovery of ancient grain use has forced another detail of
łhuman evolution˛ to be refined. It was thought that cereals only
entered humansą diet after they evolved the abilities to roast,
grind, and cook grain, supposedly 20,000 years ago. But grain
grinding tools made of stone and estimated to be up to 100,000 years
old were found in Mozambique with łample starchy residue,˛4 suggesting
that a uniquely human diet existed far earlier than evolutionists had
supposed.
Anthropologist Julio Mercader found that ła large assemblage of
starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone
Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens
relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including
those of sorghum grasses.˛5
All three of these finds are consistent with the biblical account, in
which mankind was specially created and then, a few thousand years
later, dispersed throughout the world from a point in the Middle East.
These migrating families would have had a relatively primitive
existence to begin with, but their fully human behaviors and
abilities are clearly reflected in the artifacts they left behind.6
References 1.
New evidence shows populations survived the Toba super-eruption 74,000
years ago. University of Oxford press release, February 22, 2010.
2. Thomas, B. Frozen Penguin DNA Casts Doubt on DNA-Based Dates. ICR
News. Posted on icr.org November 25, 2009, accessed March 4, 2010.
3. Texier, P-J. et al. 2010. A Howiesons Poort tradition of engraving
ostrich eggshell containers dated to 60,000 years ago at Diepkloof
Rock Shelter, South Africa. Proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences. Published online before print March 1, 2010.
4. Willyard, C. Pass the Sorghum, Caveman. Science Now. Posted on
sciencemag.org December 17, 2009, accessed March 4, 2010, reporting on
a study published in Mercader, J. 2009. Mozambican Grass Seed
Consumption During the Middle Stone Age. Science. 326 (5960):
1680-1683.
5. Mercader, J. Mozambican Grass Seed Consumption During the Middle
Stone Age. Science. 326 (5960): 1680.
6. Thomas, B. Boats and Jewelry: ŚStone Ageą People Were Surprisingly
Modern. ICR News. Posted on icr.org January 25, 2010, accessed March
5, 2010.
>It's ironic that you dismiss the scientists' somewhat
>counterintuitive explanations which have mountains of
>physical and cosmological evidence under them in favor of
>the just as counterintuitive religious explanations
>supported by no evidences whatsoever.
evolved from another through series of changes. ET is the retarded
creation myth of atheists, and it is being shoved down the throat of
modern man as a scientific fact. You have just proven yourself to be a
good little Mickey Mouse clone without a trace of independent
thinking. All you have managed is to perpetuate the myths and dogmas
of the Coca-cola culture
Discoveries Show Early Mankind Was Advanced
by Brian Thomas, M.S.
Evolution holds that mankind emerged from łprimitive˛ primates about
3.5 million years ago. Afterward, man continued to add habits and
features that distinguished him from his humble predecessors,
resulting fairly recently in what are considered modern humans.
However, new artifact finds have not corroborated this naturalistic
story.
Dr. Michael Petraglia of the University of Oxford led an investigation
into an ancient population site in India that had been buried under
volcanic debris. Beneath the ash, he discovered stone tools. A
university press release related that łaccording to the team a
potentially ground-breaking implication of the new work is that the
species responsible for making the stone tools in India was Homo
sapiens.˛1
This finding contradicts the evolutionary molecular clock date of
mankindąs presence in India by łabout 15,000 years.˛ But this is to be
expected, since different molecules łtick˛ at different rates, and
thus make poor clocks.2
In other news, unexpected evidence of symbolic thought, a uniquely
human attribute, was found in Western Cape, South Africa.
Cross-hatching patterns on bird eggs, decorated for use as carrying
baskets, were made during the middle Stone Age of that area, a
tradition that is now ła widespread modern practice.˛ The results,
published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,
revealed that whoever made these markings had łsocial, cultural, and
cognitive underpinnings that overlap with those of modern people˛
(emphasis added).3
And a discovery of ancient grain use has forced another detail of
łhuman evolution˛ to be refined. It was thought that cereals only
entered humansą diet after they evolved the abilities to roast,
grind, and cook grain, supposedly 20,000 years ago. But grain
grinding tools made of stone and estimated to be up to 100,000 years
old were found in Mozambique with łample starchy residue,˛4 suggesting
that a uniquely human diet existed far earlier than evolutionists had
supposed.
Anthropologist Julio Mercader found that ła large assemblage of
starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone
Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens
relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including
those of sorghum grasses.˛5
All three of these finds are consistent with the biblical account, in
which mankind was specially created and then, a few thousand years
later, dispersed throughout the world from a point in the Middle East.
These migrating families would have had a relatively primitive
existence to begin with, but their fully human behaviors and
abilities are clearly reflected in the artifacts they left behind.6
References 1.
New evidence shows populations survived the Toba super-eruption 74,000
years ago. University of Oxford press release, February 22, 2010.
2. Thomas, B. Frozen Penguin DNA Casts Doubt on DNA-Based Dates. ICR
News. Posted on icr.org November 25, 2009, accessed March 4, 2010.
3. Texier, P-J. et al. 2010. A Howiesons Poort tradition of engraving
ostrich eggshell containers dated to 60,000 years ago at Diepkloof
Rock Shelter, South Africa. Proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences. Published online before print March 1, 2010.
4. Willyard, C. Pass the Sorghum, Caveman. Science Now. Posted on
sciencemag.org December 17, 2009, accessed March 4, 2010, reporting on
a study published in Mercader, J. 2009. Mozambican Grass Seed
Consumption During the Middle Stone Age. Science. 326 (5960):
1680-1683.
5. Mercader, J. Mozambican Grass Seed Consumption During the Middle
Stone Age. Science. 326 (5960): 1680.
6. Thomas, B. Boats and Jewelry: ŚStone Ageą People Were Surprisingly
Modern. ICR News. Posted on icr.org January 25, 2010, accessed March
5, 2010.
raven1
Oct 19, 2012, 5:46:49 PM10/19/12
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:30:44 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:27:07 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
>>but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
>>particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
>>strawman that I don't support.
>
>Really? Then please tell us how you imagine the human evolved. Come on
>lets hear it :)
You realize that you're asking me a question that it would take a
rather thick textbook to thoroughly answer, don't you? (No, of course
you don't, because your ignorance of science is as profound as it is
possible to be). Here's a decent summary of the topic for laymen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
>Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate trying to avoid having to
>explain the details about his idiotic beliefs.
Feel free to criticize any specific aspects of the article you
disagree with, along with the scientific reasons for your
disagreement. (References must be to peer-reviewed journals, not
religious texts.)
wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:27:07 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
>>but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
>>particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
>>strawman that I don't support.
>
>Really? Then please tell us how you imagine the human evolved. Come on
>lets hear it :)
rather thick textbook to thoroughly answer, don't you? (No, of course
you don't, because your ignorance of science is as profound as it is
possible to be). Here's a decent summary of the topic for laymen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
>Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate trying to avoid having to
>explain the details about his idiotic beliefs.
disagree with, along with the scientific reasons for your
disagreement. (References must be to peer-reviewed journals, not
religious texts.)
raven1
Oct 19, 2012, 5:58:21 PM10/19/12
to
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 05:42:15 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:42:41 -0400, Brian E. Clark piped:
>
>>It's ironic that you dismiss the scientists' somewhat
>>counterintuitive explanations which have mountains of
>>physical and cosmological evidence under them in favor of
>>the just as counterintuitive religious explanations
>>supported by no evidences whatsoever.
>
>There is not even the slightest empirical evidence that one species
>evolved from another through series of changes.
Actually, the evidence is overwhelming. The fossil record, DNA, and
direct observation are three smoking guns that leave no doubt.
> ET is the retarded
>creation myth of atheists, and it is being shoved down the throat of
>modern man as a scientific fact. You have just proven yourself to be a
>good little Mickey Mouse clone without a trace of independent
>thinking. All you have managed is to perpetuate the myths and dogmas
>of the Coca-cola culture
Jesper, all you're managing to do in throwing around your cult's
catch-phrases ("Coca-cola culture", "Mickey Mouse" - who, BTW, hasn't
been a significant popular culture figure for around 50 years now;
isn't it about time you guys updated your shtick?) is to show that you
haven't an original thought in your head; you can only regurgitate
what your cult has spoon-fed you.
Oh my. Did you see that part, Jesper? LOL!
wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:42:41 -0400, Brian E. Clark piped:
>
>>It's ironic that you dismiss the scientists' somewhat
>>counterintuitive explanations which have mountains of
>>physical and cosmological evidence under them in favor of
>>the just as counterintuitive religious explanations
>>supported by no evidences whatsoever.
>
>There is not even the slightest empirical evidence that one species
>evolved from another through series of changes.
direct observation are three smoking guns that leave no doubt.
> ET is the retarded
>creation myth of atheists, and it is being shoved down the throat of
>modern man as a scientific fact. You have just proven yourself to be a
>good little Mickey Mouse clone without a trace of independent
>thinking. All you have managed is to perpetuate the myths and dogmas
>of the Coca-cola culture
catch-phrases ("Coca-cola culture", "Mickey Mouse" - who, BTW, hasn't
been a significant popular culture figure for around 50 years now;
isn't it about time you guys updated your shtick?) is to show that you
haven't an original thought in your head; you can only regurgitate
what your cult has spoon-fed you.
Jahnu
Oct 19, 2012, 8:04:32 PM10/19/12
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:46:49 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>You realize that you're asking me a question that it would take a
>rather thick textbook to thoroughly answer, don't you? (No, of course
>you don't, because your ignorance of science is as profound as it is
>possible to be).
Didn't you hear what I just said? There is no science, no logic, no
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>You realize that you're asking me a question that it would take a
>rather thick textbook to thoroughly answer, don't you? (No, of course
>you don't, because your ignorance of science is as profound as it is
>possible to be).
observations, no nothing, that supports the idiotic ideas of
abiogenesis and ET.
"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
his idiotic beliefs. How does the lame assertations on some lame
webpage prove that one species developed into another one by gradual
changes?
>Feel free to criticize any specific aspects of the article you
>disagree with, along with the scientific reasons for your
>disagreement. (References must be to peer-reviewed journals, not
>religious texts.)
that proves anything. Some idiot asserts and fabulates something, and
that's your proof? hahaha :) It doesn't take much to convince you of
anything, huh? Get a life sucker.
In contrast to he mumbo jumbo you can manage we have the Vedic
version, which offers the most consistent, comprehensive, systematic,
intelligent, and detailed system of knowledge to explain the reality
we live in. Note, I'm not expressing an opinion here. It is an
indisputable fact, verifiable by anyone who takes time to investigate
it with an open mind. There are no philosophical, existential, social,
religious, meta-physical or theological questions in the world, that
are not answered in depth in the Vedic Version.
Take Einstein, for instance. If you had given Einstein a pendrive and
told him - there are 3000 books on this stick, and pictures of your
mother as well - he would have been left completely flabbergasted and
mystified. In fact, he would have had no way of understanding the
working principles behind the pendrive. He would be in complete
darkness. He wouldn't know what was going on or what you were talking
about, because he would have had no reference to judge his experience
by.
Atheists, with their limited mental and intellectual frameworks, are
in the same position when trying to understand Krishna . Now, if you
give the same pendrive to a modern computer geek - some teenager - he
can tell you all about what makes a pendrive work. Similarly, Hare
Krishna can tell you everything about how God, the body, the mind, and
the world work. The reason for this, is that in Hare Krishna the
right, original framework for understanding reality is given. This
process of knowledge has descended into the world via the disciplic
succession going back to Krishna Himself 5000 years ago, when He spoke
Bhagavad Gita to Arjuna.
Jiva Goswami, a Hare Krsna from the 1500s, had this to say about
understanding God - the first thing you have to understand, to know
God - Krishna, is to understand that He is inconceivable.
Krishna is as far away from the materially conditioned mind of modern
man, as a computer is from, say, George Washington. You don't have the
slightest way of understanding God before and unless you accept that
God is inconceivable, that He can act in mysterious, inconceivable
ways. To maintain that every experience - the sum total of reality,
can be expressed entirely in physical, scientific terms is so
amazingly dumb that it shows the efficiency of the modern propaganda
machine.
The prapaganda-machine conditions and indoctrinates everyone into
thinking that they are the enjoyers, and that they can be happy by
gratifying the bodily senses. In fact, there are no other goals in the
Coca-cola culture except growing up, getting an education, so you can
get a job in order to make money so you can spend it. There is nothing
beyond that. How hopeless is that? It may seem ok for the successful
people, who due to good karma are getting their desires fulfilled, but
for the vast scores of people who live in poverty and suffering, how
is it beneficial to tell them that this life is the only chance you'll
ever get to have your desires fulfilled? After that - nothing. It's a
sick world-view that conditions one to a life in misery and
disappointment. Atheism actually makes you mentally ill. Hare Krishna
Rules...
Krishna says:
O Arjuna, as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, I know everything
that has happened in the past, all that is happening in the present,
and all things that are yet to come. I also know all living entities;
but Me no one knows (Bg 7.26)
My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)
This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.
--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12
Jahnu
Oct 19, 2012, 8:10:12 PM10/19/12
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:58:21 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>Actually, the evidence is overwhelming. The fossil record, DNA, and
>direct observation are three smoking guns that leave no doubt.
Either you are profoundly ignorant about science, or you are a lying
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>Actually, the evidence is overwhelming. The fossil record, DNA, and
>direct observation are three smoking guns that leave no doubt.
scumbag. Which is it, Birdman? Are you a lying scumbag, or are you one
of the mindless masses who wouldn't know real science if it fell on
your head?
"Indeed, it is the chief frustration of the fossil record that we do
not have empirical evidence for sustained trends in the evolution of
most complex morphological adaptations." (Gould, Stephen J. and
Eldredge, Niles, "Species Selection: Its Range and Power," )
"Most families, orders, classes, and phyla appear rather suddenly in
the fossil record, often without anatomically intermediate forms
smoothly interlinking evolutionarily derived descendant taxa with
their presumed ancestors." (Eldredge, N., Macro-Evolutionary Dynamics:
Species, Niches, and Adaptive Peaks, McGraw-Hill Publishing Company,
New York)
"Species that were once thought to have turned into others have been
found to overlap in time with these alleged descendants. In fact, the
fossil record does not convincingly document a single transition from
one species to another." (Stanley, S.M., The New Evolutionary
Timetable: Fossils, Genes, and the Origin of Species)
"Many fossils have been collected since 1859, tons of them, yet the
impact they have had on our understanding of the relationships between
living organisms is barely perceptible. ...In fact, I do not think it
unfair to say that fossils, or at least the traditional interpretation
of fossils, haveclouded rather than clarified our attempts to
reconstruct phylogeny." (Fortey, P. L., "Neontological Analysis Versus
Palaeontological Stores,")
Constance Knoring
Oct 19, 2012, 8:13:11 PM10/19/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:h42v7892ohe5hgia0...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:40:17 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring went:
>
> <ssscreetch pppfttt zzzprr plonk poof, then short circuit>
.............
go piss up a fucking rope you stupif fuckin bum fucker!!!!!!!
news:h42v7892ohe5hgia0...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:40:17 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring went:
>
> <ssscreetch pppfttt zzzprr plonk poof, then short circuit>
go piss up a fucking rope you stupif fuckin bum fucker!!!!!!!
Jahnu
Oct 19, 2012, 9:06:44 PM10/19/12
to
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:13:11 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring yelled in a
shrill voice:
>go piss up a fucking rope you stupif fuckin bum fucker!!!!!!!
You wish :)
Krishna says:
I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance,
knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas, I am to be known.
Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the
Vedas. (Bg 15.15)
shrill voice:
>go piss up a fucking rope you stupif fuckin bum fucker!!!!!!!
Krishna says:
I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance,
knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas, I am to be known.
Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the
Vedas. (Bg 15.15)
Constance Knoring
Oct 19, 2012, 9:14:06 PM10/19/12
to
Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:h0u38896n0m2ucbh9...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:13:11 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring yelled in a
> shrill voice:
>
>>go piss up a fucking rope you stupif fuckin bum fucker!!!!!!!
>
> You wish :)
...........
that wasnt a fuckin wish , it was a fuckin command!!!!!! i am your new god
now and i fuckin order you to go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
news:h0u38896n0m2ucbh9...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:13:11 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring yelled in a
> shrill voice:
>
>>go piss up a fucking rope you stupif fuckin bum fucker!!!!!!!
>
> You wish :)
that wasnt a fuckin wish , it was a fuckin command!!!!!! i am your new god
now and i fuckin order you to go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
Jahnu
Oct 20, 2012, 12:32:06 AM10/20/12
to
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring yelled in a
shrill voice:
>that wasnt a fuckin wish , it was a fuckin command!!!!!! i am your new god
>now and i fuckin order you to go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
hahaha :) Like the hooker you wish you could command, right? :)
The sage, Sri Shukadeva Gosvami says:
My dear King, your question is glorious because it is very beneficial
to all kinds of people. The answer to this question is the prime
subject matter for hearing, and it is approved by all
transcendentalists. (SB. 2.1.1)
Those persons who are materially engrossed, being blind to the
knowledge of ultimate truth, have many subject matters for hearing in
human society, O Emperor. (SB. 2.1.2)
The lifetime of such an envious householder is passed at night either
in sleeping or in sex indulgence, and in the daytime either in making
money or maintaining family members. (SB. 2.1.3)
Persons devoid of knowledge of the self do not inquire into the
problems of life, being too attached to the fallible soldiers like the
body, children and wife. Although sufficiently experienced, they still
do not see their inevitable destruction. (SB. 2.1.4)
O descendant of King Bharata, one who desires to be free from all
miseries must hear about, glorify and also remember the Personality of
Godhead, who is the Supersoul, the controller and the savior from all
miseries.
(SB 2.1.5)
The highest perfection of human life, achieved either by complete
knowledge of matter and spirit, by practice of mystic powers, or by
perfect discharge of occupational duty, is to remember the Personality
of Godhead at the end of life. (SB. 2.1.6)
shrill voice:
>that wasnt a fuckin wish , it was a fuckin command!!!!!! i am your new god
>now and i fuckin order you to go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
The sage, Sri Shukadeva Gosvami says:
My dear King, your question is glorious because it is very beneficial
to all kinds of people. The answer to this question is the prime
subject matter for hearing, and it is approved by all
transcendentalists. (SB. 2.1.1)
Those persons who are materially engrossed, being blind to the
knowledge of ultimate truth, have many subject matters for hearing in
human society, O Emperor. (SB. 2.1.2)
The lifetime of such an envious householder is passed at night either
in sleeping or in sex indulgence, and in the daytime either in making
money or maintaining family members. (SB. 2.1.3)
Persons devoid of knowledge of the self do not inquire into the
problems of life, being too attached to the fallible soldiers like the
body, children and wife. Although sufficiently experienced, they still
do not see their inevitable destruction. (SB. 2.1.4)
O descendant of King Bharata, one who desires to be free from all
miseries must hear about, glorify and also remember the Personality of
Godhead, who is the Supersoul, the controller and the savior from all
miseries.
(SB 2.1.5)
The highest perfection of human life, achieved either by complete
knowledge of matter and spirit, by practice of mystic powers, or by
perfect discharge of occupational duty, is to remember the Personality
of Godhead at the end of life. (SB. 2.1.6)
Constance Knoring
Oct 20, 2012, 1:55:58 AM10/20/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:84a488pbpol5iddul...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring yelled in a
> shrill voice:
>
>>that wasnt a fuckin wish , it was a fuckin command!!!!!! i am your new
>>god now and i fuckin order you to go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
>
> hahaha :) Like the hooker you wish you could command, right? :)
............................
whateverr the fuck i do with hookers is my fucking business , and why the
fuck do you knowe anythinga bout hookers anyway??????/ watta you do with
hookers , or are you tooo stoopud ot have a answer for that?????????///?
news:84a488pbpol5iddul...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring yelled in a
> shrill voice:
>
>>that wasnt a fuckin wish , it was a fuckin command!!!!!! i am your new
>>god now and i fuckin order you to go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
>
> hahaha :) Like the hooker you wish you could command, right? :)
whateverr the fuck i do with hookers is my fucking business , and why the
fuck do you knowe anythinga bout hookers anyway??????/ watta you do with
hookers , or are you tooo stoopud ot have a answer for that?????????///?
Jahnu
Oct 20, 2012, 3:29:06 AM10/20/12
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:55:58 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring kept
knoring shrilly:
>whateverr the fuck i do with hookers is my fucking business , and why the
>fuck do you knowe anythinga bout hookers anyway??????/ watta you do with
>hookers , or are you tooo stoopud ot have a answer for that?????????///?
You are kidding, right? What do you do with hookers? hahaha :) How
moronic can you get?
Shukadeva Godswami says:
My dear King, although Kali-yuga is an ocean of faults, there is still
one good quality about this age: Simply by chanting the Hare Krsna
maha-mantra, one can become free from material bondage and be promoted
to the transcendental kingdom.
=> Bhagavat Purana 12.3.51
knoring shrilly:
>whateverr the fuck i do with hookers is my fucking business , and why the
>fuck do you knowe anythinga bout hookers anyway??????/ watta you do with
>hookers , or are you tooo stoopud ot have a answer for that?????????///?
moronic can you get?
Shukadeva Godswami says:
My dear King, although Kali-yuga is an ocean of faults, there is still
one good quality about this age: Simply by chanting the Hare Krsna
maha-mantra, one can become free from material bondage and be promoted
to the transcendental kingdom.
=> Bhagavat Purana 12.3.51
raven1
Oct 20, 2012, 10:12:18 AM10/20/12
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:34:32 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:46:49 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>You realize that you're asking me a question that it would take a
>>rather thick textbook to thoroughly answer, don't you? (No, of course
>>you don't, because your ignorance of science is as profound as it is
>>possible to be).
>
>Didn't you hear what I just said? There is no science, no logic, no
>observations, no nothing, that supports the idiotic ideas of
>abiogenesis and ET.
And you were wrong, as the article I posted clearly demonstrates by
presenting the very things you deny exist.
>"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
>great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
>EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
>
>>Here's a decent summary of the topic for laymen:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
>
>As I said, watch Birdman squirm and dogde to avoid having to explain
>his idiotic beliefs. How does the lame assertations on some lame
>webpage prove that one species developed into another one by gradual
>changes?
Jesper, the evidence is clearly listed.
>>Feel free to criticize any specific aspects of the article you
>>disagree with, along with the scientific reasons for your
>>disagreement. (References must be to peer-reviewed journals, not
>>religious texts.)
>
>You are kidding, right. There is nothing on that webpage you referred
>that proves anything.
What you mean to say is that there's nothing you can refute, because
your knowledge of science wouldn't fill a thimble.
> Some idiot asserts and fabulates something,
With copious references to back up every statement, one might note.
>and
>that's your proof? hahaha :) It doesn't take much to convince you of
>anything, huh?
That's pretty funny coming from you, Jesper.
wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:46:49 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>You realize that you're asking me a question that it would take a
>>rather thick textbook to thoroughly answer, don't you? (No, of course
>>you don't, because your ignorance of science is as profound as it is
>>possible to be).
>
>Didn't you hear what I just said? There is no science, no logic, no
>observations, no nothing, that supports the idiotic ideas of
>abiogenesis and ET.
presenting the very things you deny exist.
>"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
>great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
>EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
>
>>Here's a decent summary of the topic for laymen:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
>
>As I said, watch Birdman squirm and dogde to avoid having to explain
>his idiotic beliefs. How does the lame assertations on some lame
>webpage prove that one species developed into another one by gradual
>changes?
>>Feel free to criticize any specific aspects of the article you
>>disagree with, along with the scientific reasons for your
>>disagreement. (References must be to peer-reviewed journals, not
>>religious texts.)
>
>You are kidding, right. There is nothing on that webpage you referred
>that proves anything.
your knowledge of science wouldn't fill a thimble.
> Some idiot asserts and fabulates something,
>and
>that's your proof? hahaha :) It doesn't take much to convince you of
>anything, huh?
raven1
Oct 20, 2012, 10:21:30 AM10/20/12
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:40:12 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:58:21 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Actually, the evidence is overwhelming. The fossil record, DNA, and
>>direct observation are three smoking guns that leave no doubt.
>
>Either you are profoundly ignorant about science,
Wow, that's some pretty amazing projection there, Jesper. The next
thing you know you'll be suggesting that I'm ignorant of world
religions. Oh wait, that would be you, too.
>or you are a lying
>scumbag. Which is it, Birdman? Are you a lying scumbag, or are you one
>of the mindless masses who wouldn't know real science if it fell on
>your head?
Wow, I seem to have touched a nerve, Jesper. It must be pretty
annoying to have an atheist know more about practically everything
than you do, but since you weren't very bright before you joined your
cult, and you've learned nothing since then, it's hardly surprising.
>"Indeed, it is the chief frustration of the fossil record that we do
>not have empirical evidence for sustained trends in the evolution of
>most complex morphological adaptations." (Gould, Stephen J. and
>Eldredge, Niles, "Species Selection: Its Range and Power," )
>
>"Most families, orders, classes, and phyla appear rather suddenly in
>the fossil record, often without anatomically intermediate forms
>smoothly interlinking evolutionarily derived descendant taxa with
>their presumed ancestors." (Eldredge, N., Macro-Evolutionary Dynamics:
>Species, Niches, and Adaptive Peaks, McGraw-Hill Publishing Company,
>New York)
You're quoting Gould and Eldredge, two of the most prominent
evolutionary scientists in recent history, to try to refute evolution?
Seriously? Congratulations, Jesper, you've replaced Dimwit Dave, aka
"Ilbebauck", as the dumbest person I've ever encountered.
wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:58:21 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>Actually, the evidence is overwhelming. The fossil record, DNA, and
>>direct observation are three smoking guns that leave no doubt.
>
>Either you are profoundly ignorant about science,
thing you know you'll be suggesting that I'm ignorant of world
religions. Oh wait, that would be you, too.
>or you are a lying
>scumbag. Which is it, Birdman? Are you a lying scumbag, or are you one
>of the mindless masses who wouldn't know real science if it fell on
>your head?
annoying to have an atheist know more about practically everything
than you do, but since you weren't very bright before you joined your
cult, and you've learned nothing since then, it's hardly surprising.
>"Indeed, it is the chief frustration of the fossil record that we do
>not have empirical evidence for sustained trends in the evolution of
>most complex morphological adaptations." (Gould, Stephen J. and
>Eldredge, Niles, "Species Selection: Its Range and Power," )
>
>"Most families, orders, classes, and phyla appear rather suddenly in
>the fossil record, often without anatomically intermediate forms
>smoothly interlinking evolutionarily derived descendant taxa with
>their presumed ancestors." (Eldredge, N., Macro-Evolutionary Dynamics:
>Species, Niches, and Adaptive Peaks, McGraw-Hill Publishing Company,
>New York)
evolutionary scientists in recent history, to try to refute evolution?
Seriously? Congratulations, Jesper, you've replaced Dimwit Dave, aka
"Ilbebauck", as the dumbest person I've ever encountered.
Jahnu
Oct 20, 2012, 11:16:29 AM10/20/12
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:12:18 -0400, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>And you were wrong, as the article I posted clearly demonstrates by
>presenting the very things you deny exist.
Nope Birdman, your article demonstrates nothing.
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>And you were wrong, as the article I posted clearly demonstrates by
>presenting the very things you deny exist.
"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
a variety of wishful speculations." -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
University, in an Oxford University Press text.
accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
a variety of wishful speculations." -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
University, in an Oxford University Press text.
raven1
Oct 21, 2012, 10:35:18 AM10/21/12
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:46:29 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:12:18 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>And you were wrong, as the article I posted clearly demonstrates by
>>presenting the very things you deny exist.
>
>Nope Birdman, your article demonstrates nothing.
>
>"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
>great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
>EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
Not a biologist, so his opinion is of no import.
>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>a variety of wishful speculations."
True, but misleading. The exact details of how specific systems
evolved are not known at this time. So what?
> -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
>Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
>University, in an Oxford University Press text.
>
>
>Have a look at my art -
>
>http://youtu.be/2uRbsf9Vzg8
>http://youtu.be/Nd1VXm5CF1M
>http://youtu.be/jeMO6UxDGag
>http://youtu.be/zg2ks9py2-c
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
>http://www.facebook.com/groups/138462029613179/
wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:12:18 -0400, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>And you were wrong, as the article I posted clearly demonstrates by
>>presenting the very things you deny exist.
>
>Nope Birdman, your article demonstrates nothing.
>
>"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
>great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
>EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>a variety of wishful speculations."
evolved are not known at this time. So what?
> -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
>Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
>University, in an Oxford University Press text.
>
>
>Have a look at my art -
>
>http://youtu.be/2uRbsf9Vzg8
>http://youtu.be/Nd1VXm5CF1M
>http://youtu.be/jeMO6UxDGag
>http://youtu.be/zg2ks9py2-c
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
>http://www.facebook.com/groups/138462029613179/
ken
Oct 21, 2012, 11:31:44 AM10/21/12
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Krishna saz: "Jahnu one REALLY FUCKED UP PIECE O' SHIT!"
Mike Painter
Oct 21, 2012, 2:24:44 PM10/21/12
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:35:18 -0400, raven1
do know the answers.
The application of evolutionary theory does pretty much what might be
expected. It works and sometime produces results that can't be fully
understood and are totally un human.
http://www.cs.ucf.edu/~tommy/p3.pdf
All but five of the parts which were NOT connected to the final
circuit in any known way could not be removed without degrading
performance.
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:46:29 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:12:18 -0400, raven1
>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>And you were wrong, as the article I posted clearly demonstrates by
>>>presenting the very things you deny exist.
>>
>>Nope Birdman, your article demonstrates nothing.
>>
>>"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
>>great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
>>EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
>
>Not a biologist, so his opinion is of no import.
>
>>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>>a variety of wishful speculations."
>
>True, but misleading. The exact details of how specific systems
>evolved are not known at this time. So what?
>
>> -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
>>Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
>>University, in an Oxford University Press text.
>>
The PBS show "What Darwin Never Knew." is worth watching even if you
>On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:46:29 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:12:18 -0400, raven1
>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>And you were wrong, as the article I posted clearly demonstrates by
>>>presenting the very things you deny exist.
>>
>>Nope Birdman, your article demonstrates nothing.
>>
>>"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are
>>great con-men, And the story they are telling may be the GREATEST HOAX
>>EVER." -- Dr.T.N.Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission
>
>Not a biologist, so his opinion is of no import.
>
>>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>>a variety of wishful speculations."
>
>True, but misleading. The exact details of how specific systems
>evolved are not known at this time. So what?
>
>> -- Franklin Harold, Emeritus
>>Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Colorado State
>>University, in an Oxford University Press text.
>>
do know the answers.
The application of evolutionary theory does pretty much what might be
expected. It works and sometime produces results that can't be fully
understood and are totally un human.
http://www.cs.ucf.edu/~tommy/p3.pdf
All but five of the parts which were NOT connected to the final
circuit in any known way could not be removed without degrading
performance.
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig
Jahnu
Oct 21, 2012, 8:53:27 PM10/21/12
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:35:18 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>Not a biologist, so his opinion is of no import.
Wrong. I decide what's important, get it? Or are you too dense to even
grasp the obvious.
>>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>>a variety of wishful speculations."
>
>True, but misleading. The exact details of how specific systems
>evolved are not known at this time. So what?
Which means ET is a blind belief that has nothing to with science. As
long as we are clear on that, Birdman.
"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr
Science now know that many of the pillars of the Darwinian theory are
either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them
as factual evidence of Evolution. What does this imply about their
scientific standards? - Jonathan Wells
Krishna says:
The living entities in this conditioned world are My eternal
fragmental parts. Due to conditioned life, they are struggling very
hard with the six senses, which include the mind. (Bg. 15.7)
The living entity in the material world carries his different
conceptions of life from one body to another as the air carries
aromas. Thus he takes one kind of body and again quits it to take
another. (Bg. 15.8)
The living entity, thus taking another gross body, obtains a certain
type of ear, eye, tongue, nose and sense of touch, which are grouped
about the mind. He thus enjoys a particular set of sense objects. (Bg.
15.9)
The foolish cannot understand how a living entity can quit his body,
nor can they understand what sort of body he enjoys under the spell of
the modes of nature. But one whose eyes are trained in knowledge can
see all this. (Bg. 15.10)
The endeavoring transcendentalists who are situated in
self-realization can see all this clearly. But those whose minds are
not developed and who are not situated in self-realization cannot see
what is taking place, though they may try to. (Bg. 15.11)
http://youtu.be/J78fiLgE62E
>Not a biologist, so his opinion is of no import.
grasp the obvious.
>>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>>a variety of wishful speculations."
>
>True, but misleading. The exact details of how specific systems
>evolved are not known at this time. So what?
long as we are clear on that, Birdman.
"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr
Science now know that many of the pillars of the Darwinian theory are
either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them
as factual evidence of Evolution. What does this imply about their
scientific standards? - Jonathan Wells
Krishna says:
The living entities in this conditioned world are My eternal
fragmental parts. Due to conditioned life, they are struggling very
hard with the six senses, which include the mind. (Bg. 15.7)
The living entity in the material world carries his different
conceptions of life from one body to another as the air carries
aromas. Thus he takes one kind of body and again quits it to take
another. (Bg. 15.8)
The living entity, thus taking another gross body, obtains a certain
type of ear, eye, tongue, nose and sense of touch, which are grouped
about the mind. He thus enjoys a particular set of sense objects. (Bg.
15.9)
The foolish cannot understand how a living entity can quit his body,
nor can they understand what sort of body he enjoys under the spell of
the modes of nature. But one whose eyes are trained in knowledge can
see all this. (Bg. 15.10)
The endeavoring transcendentalists who are situated in
self-realization can see all this clearly. But those whose minds are
not developed and who are not situated in self-realization cannot see
what is taking place, though they may try to. (Bg. 15.11)
http://youtu.be/J78fiLgE62E
Constance Knoring
Oct 21, 2012, 11:32:35 PM10/21/12
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Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
news:1hk488hvg2rs0sis2...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:55:58 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring kept
> knoring shrilly:
>
>>whateverr the fuck i do with hookers is my fucking business , and why
>>the fuck do you knowe anythinga bout hookers anyway??????/ watta you
>>do with hookers , or are you tooo stoopud ot have a answer for
>>that?????????///?
>
> You are kidding, right? What do you do with hookers? hahaha :) How
> moronic can you get?
..............
yore obviusly a fuckin dunder head!!!!!!!!! yah , you dont fuckin know
wutt to do with hookers , that prolly means youre less than 12 yeras old
, and that wood explain a lot about how fucking stupid you seem to be
cuzz you just lack fuckin life experiense!!!!!!!!
just yoo weait if you ekeep acting like thsi youll end up in prison one
day cuzz some fucker will sue you for being such a fucking fuck!!!!!! and
then youll get one fuck of a lot of fucking life experience!!!!!!
news:1hk488hvg2rs0sis2...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:55:58 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring kept
> knoring shrilly:
>
>>whateverr the fuck i do with hookers is my fucking business , and why
>>the fuck do you knowe anythinga bout hookers anyway??????/ watta you
>>do with hookers , or are you tooo stoopud ot have a answer for
>>that?????????///?
>
> You are kidding, right? What do you do with hookers? hahaha :) How
> moronic can you get?
yore obviusly a fuckin dunder head!!!!!!!!! yah , you dont fuckin know
wutt to do with hookers , that prolly means youre less than 12 yeras old
, and that wood explain a lot about how fucking stupid you seem to be
cuzz you just lack fuckin life experiense!!!!!!!!
just yoo weait if you ekeep acting like thsi youll end up in prison one
day cuzz some fucker will sue you for being such a fucking fuck!!!!!! and
then youll get one fuck of a lot of fucking life experience!!!!!!
Jahnu
Oct 22, 2012, 1:00:24 AM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 03:32:35 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring, slack jaw
and glaced eyes,spittle flying, staggered over to his key-board and
managed to lift his knuckles off the floor long enough to type:
>yore obviusly a fuckin dunder head!!!!!!!!! yah , you dont fuckin know
>wutt to do with hookers , that prolly means youre less than 12 yeras old
>, and that wood explain a lot about how fucking stupid you seem to be
>cuzz you just lack fuckin life experiense!!!!!!!!
Wow man, that's deep... hahaha :) Don't you just love it when you can
get one of these atheists to rant and rave like the brain-dead,
clueless clones they are? :)
Hey dude, look, you are in the Bhagavad Gita. The sages wrote about
you already 5000 years ago - what more proof do you need?
Krishna says:
Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are lowest among
mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the
atheistic nature of demons do not surrender unto Me. (Bg 7.15)
http://youtu.be/J78fiLgE62E
and glaced eyes,spittle flying, staggered over to his key-board and
managed to lift his knuckles off the floor long enough to type:
>yore obviusly a fuckin dunder head!!!!!!!!! yah , you dont fuckin know
>wutt to do with hookers , that prolly means youre less than 12 yeras old
>, and that wood explain a lot about how fucking stupid you seem to be
>cuzz you just lack fuckin life experiense!!!!!!!!
get one of these atheists to rant and rave like the brain-dead,
clueless clones they are? :)
Hey dude, look, you are in the Bhagavad Gita. The sages wrote about
you already 5000 years ago - what more proof do you need?
Krishna says:
Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, who are lowest among
mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the
atheistic nature of demons do not surrender unto Me. (Bg 7.15)
http://youtu.be/J78fiLgE62E
raven1
Oct 22, 2012, 8:42:46 AM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:23:27 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:35:18 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>
>>Not a biologist, so his opinion is of no import.
>
>Wrong. I decide what's important, get it?
But you're a brainwashed ignoramus, so your opinion is of even less
import.
>Or are you too dense to even
>grasp the obvious.
That you're a brainwashed ignoramus? No, I got that a long time ago.
>>>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>>>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>>>a variety of wishful speculations."
>>
>>True, but misleading. The exact details of how specific systems
>>evolved are not known at this time. So what?
>
>Which means ET is a blind belief that has nothing to with science.
No, it means we don't know all the details, and admit as much. Science
claims neither omniscience nor infallibility: if it possessed either,
there would no longer be a need for scientific inquiry.
> As
>long as we are clear on that, Birdman.
What's clear is that you either don't understand the basics of how
science works, or you're confusing it with religion, which pulls
answers out of its ass instead of admitting "we don't know that yet".
>"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
>connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
>--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr
Explained by equally the eminent Gould and Eldredge (whom you
ridiculously tried to quote to discredit evolution a little while
ago).
>Science now know that many of the pillars of the Darwinian theory are
>either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them
>as factual evidence of Evolution. What does this imply about their
>scientific standards? - Jonathan Wells
LOL! The Moonie ID advocate? He has been roundly criticized by his
peers for his own lack of scientific standards (and for his repeated
dishonesty). Please, Jesper, pull the other one!
wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:35:18 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>
>>Not a biologist, so his opinion is of no import.
>
>Wrong. I decide what's important, get it?
import.
>Or are you too dense to even
>grasp the obvious.
>>>"We must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian
>>>accounts of the evolution of any biochemical or cellular system, only
>>>a variety of wishful speculations."
>>
>>True, but misleading. The exact details of how specific systems
>>evolved are not known at this time. So what?
>
>Which means ET is a blind belief that has nothing to with science.
claims neither omniscience nor infallibility: if it possessed either,
there would no longer be a need for scientific inquiry.
> As
>long as we are clear on that, Birdman.
science works, or you're confusing it with religion, which pulls
answers out of its ass instead of admitting "we don't know that yet".
>"New species usually appear in the fossil record suddenly, not
>connected with their ancestors by a series of intermediates."
>--Eminent evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr
ridiculously tried to quote to discredit evolution a little while
ago).
>Science now know that many of the pillars of the Darwinian theory are
>either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them
>as factual evidence of Evolution. What does this imply about their
>scientific standards? - Jonathan Wells
peers for his own lack of scientific standards (and for his repeated
dishonesty). Please, Jesper, pull the other one!
Jahnu
Oct 22, 2012, 8:53:43 AM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:42:46 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>But you're a brainwashed ignoramus, so your opinion is of even less
>import.
You are kidding, right? :)
You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word. In
knowledge, intelligence, ability, common sense, a happy and satisfying
life etc. etc. I make you look like a doorknob - I am like a BMW and
you are like a tricycle. There is no comparison, at all. Remember
that, Birdman. It was a Hare Krishna who came and made you look like
the ignorant, prejudiced twat you are...:) And there is nothing you
can do about it except bitch and squawk and whine about it, hehe :)
Krishna says:
Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire
from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized
souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.
(Bg. 4.34)
Having obtained real knowledge from a self-realized soul, you will
never fall again into such illusion, for by this knowledge you will
see that all living beings are but part of the Supreme, or, in other
words, that they are Mine. (Bg. 4.35)
Even if you are considered to be the most sinful of all sinners, when
you are situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge you will be
able to cross over the ocean of miseries. (Bg. 4.36)
As a blazing fire turns firewood to ashes, O Arjuna, so does the fire
of knowledge burn to ashes all reactions to material activities. (Bg.
4.37)
In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental
knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism. And
one who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service
enjoys this knowledge within himself in due course of time. (Bg. 4.38)
A faithful man who is dedicated to transcendental knowledge and who
subdues his senses is eligible to achieve such knowledge, and having
achieved it he quickly attains the supreme spiritual peace. (Bg. 4.39)
But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg. 4.40)
http://youtu.be/ZGLKqQP3Uv8
>But you're a brainwashed ignoramus, so your opinion is of even less
>import.
You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word. In
knowledge, intelligence, ability, common sense, a happy and satisfying
life etc. etc. I make you look like a doorknob - I am like a BMW and
you are like a tricycle. There is no comparison, at all. Remember
that, Birdman. It was a Hare Krishna who came and made you look like
the ignorant, prejudiced twat you are...:) And there is nothing you
can do about it except bitch and squawk and whine about it, hehe :)
Krishna says:
Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire
from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized
souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.
(Bg. 4.34)
Having obtained real knowledge from a self-realized soul, you will
never fall again into such illusion, for by this knowledge you will
see that all living beings are but part of the Supreme, or, in other
words, that they are Mine. (Bg. 4.35)
Even if you are considered to be the most sinful of all sinners, when
you are situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge you will be
able to cross over the ocean of miseries. (Bg. 4.36)
As a blazing fire turns firewood to ashes, O Arjuna, so does the fire
of knowledge burn to ashes all reactions to material activities. (Bg.
4.37)
In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental
knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism. And
one who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service
enjoys this knowledge within himself in due course of time. (Bg. 4.38)
A faithful man who is dedicated to transcendental knowledge and who
subdues his senses is eligible to achieve such knowledge, and having
achieved it he quickly attains the supreme spiritual peace. (Bg. 4.39)
But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg. 4.40)
http://youtu.be/ZGLKqQP3Uv8
raven1
Oct 22, 2012, 11:11:32 AM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:23:43 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:42:46 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>
>>But you're a brainwashed ignoramus, so your opinion is of even less
>>import.
>
>You are kidding, right? :)
Not at all. The record is there for all to see. You simple-mindedly
regurgitate the same few phrases that your cult has drilled into your
head ad nauseam. There's no thought on your part at all; you may as
well be a parrot.
>You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word.
Reality check here, Jesper: your intelligence is eclipsed by that of a
houseplant, and objectively, you're a pathetic loser who joined a cult
because he couldn't function as a productive member of society. Your
delusions of superiority to anyone are absolutely hilarious.
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:42:46 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>
>>But you're a brainwashed ignoramus, so your opinion is of even less
>>import.
>
>You are kidding, right? :)
regurgitate the same few phrases that your cult has drilled into your
head ad nauseam. There's no thought on your part at all; you may as
well be a parrot.
>You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word.
houseplant, and objectively, you're a pathetic loser who joined a cult
because he couldn't function as a productive member of society. Your
delusions of superiority to anyone are absolutely hilarious.
Jahnu
Oct 22, 2012, 11:19:43 AM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:11:32 -0400, raven1 went:
<squawk squawk>
Krishna says:
After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)
<squawk squawk>
Krishna says:
After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)
raven1
Oct 22, 2012, 12:15:30 PM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:49:43 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:11:32 -0400, raven1 went:
>
><squawk squawk>
Run away again, loser.
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:11:32 -0400, raven1 went:
>
><squawk squawk>
Dakota
Oct 22, 2012, 12:24:36 PM10/22/12
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On 10/22/2012 10:11 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:23:43 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:42:46 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>>
>>> But you're a brainwashed ignoramus, so your opinion is of even less
>>> import.
>>
>> You are kidding, right? :)
>
> Not at all. The record is there for all to see. You simple-mindedly
> regurgitate the same few phrases that your cult has drilled into your
> head ad nauseam. There's no thought on your part at all; you may as
> well be a parrot.
>
>> You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word.
>
Nope. Only in the sense found in definition 2.
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:23:43 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:42:46 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>>
>>> But you're a brainwashed ignoramus, so your opinion is of even less
>>> import.
>>
>> You are kidding, right? :)
>
> Not at all. The record is there for all to see. You simple-mindedly
> regurgitate the same few phrases that your cult has drilled into your
> head ad nauseam. There's no thought on your part at all; you may as
> well be a parrot.
>
>> You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word.
>
Definition of superior
adjective
1 higher in rank, status, or quality:
2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
3 (of a letter, figure, or symbol) written or printed above the line.
4 chiefly Anatomy further above or out; higher in position.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/superior?region=uk&q=superior
Jahnu
Oct 22, 2012, 9:13:00 PM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:24:36 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
>Nope. Only in the sense found in definition 2.
I am not expressing a belief here, I'm simply stating a fact. To
compare the Birdman to me, is like comparing a tricycle to a BMW. I'm
not saying this out of arrogance or personal ambition or anything like
it, I am saying it, so you can understand how superior Hare Krishna is
to any other explanation offered in the world of the reality we live
in.
Hare Krishna offers the most consistent, comprehensive, systematic,
wrote:
>Nope. Only in the sense found in definition 2.
compare the Birdman to me, is like comparing a tricycle to a BMW. I'm
not saying this out of arrogance or personal ambition or anything like
it, I am saying it, so you can understand how superior Hare Krishna is
to any other explanation offered in the world of the reality we live
in.
Hare Krishna offers the most consistent, comprehensive, systematic,
intelligent, and detailed system of knowledge to explain the reality
we live in. Note, again, I'm not expressing an opinion here. It is an
Yap
Oct 22, 2012, 10:17:13 PM10/22/12
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On Oct 18, 9:27 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:17:16 +0530, Jahnu <Jahnud...@gamail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:31:10 -0400, raven1 whined:
>
> >>I believe no such thing,
>
> >Yep, that's exactly what you believe.
>
> No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
> but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
> particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
> strawman that I don't support.
You are wasting your time with a half Indian.
You know what are the opinions of most people when dealing with such a
character?
"When you see a snake and an Indian, you would kill the Indian
first" (In this case the half Indian).
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:17:16 +0530, Jahnu <Jahnud...@gamail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:31:10 -0400, raven1 whined:
>
> >>I believe no such thing,
>
> >Yep, that's exactly what you believe.
>
> No, it isn't. Jesper, I may think that what you believe is idiotic,
> but I don't misrepresent it. There's no point in continuing this
> particular discussion if you're going to spend your time attacking a
> strawman that I don't support.
You are wasting your time with a half Indian.
You know what are the opinions of most people when dealing with such a
character?
"When you see a snake and an Indian, you would kill the Indian
first" (In this case the half Indian).
Yap
Oct 22, 2012, 10:22:26 PM10/22/12
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On Oct 21, 11:31 pm, ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
> Krishna saz: "Jahnu one REALLY FUCKED UP PIECE O' SHIT!"
No.....
> Krishna saz: "Jahnu one REALLY FUCKED UP PIECE O' SHIT!"
The human named Krishna saz:"Don't get engaged with this insane
unlearned Jahnu.....you are wasting your valuable time".
Jahnu
Oct 22, 2012, 10:39:40 PM10/22/12
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:17:13 -0700 (PDT), Yap went:
<yap yap yap>
<yap yap yap>
hypatiab7
Oct 23, 2012, 4:20:35 AM10/23/12
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On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:13:12 AM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:17:49 -0400, raven1
> <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:53:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>wrote:
>
> >>If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
> >>friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
> >>someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
>Or that they spent too much time navel-gazing and chanting to imaginary Hindu gods, because their cult told them to.
>
> Same thing - especially when they refuse either to put up or shut up.
>
> Like Jesper Wernberg.
>
> >>In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
> >>certainty such things as science and technology,
>
> >Science makes no claim to certainty. All scientific knowledge is provisional.
>
> What "absolute truth" was the in-your-face serial liar lying about?
>
> >>but if you claim that you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
> >>God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life, you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.
> If they claim they get their in-your-face bullshit from some hypothetical god only their fellow cultists believe in, they _are_ deranged fanatics.
>
> >No, actually, most people here have read considerable numbers of your posts before
dismissing you as a deranged fanatic.
>
> Deranged fanatics imagine those who don't believe their delusions, are deluded.
>
> >>All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.
>
> >How would you know? Much of what you think you know about Hinduism is the sectarian interpretation of a cult, and you have demonstrated that know next to nothing about any other religions. Moreover, the
> >statement that "all religions claim the same thing" is true mainly at a superficial level: they all claim knowledge that they cannot support about subjects that cannot be demonstrated to have empirical existence. Beyond that, the specifics of their claims vary wildly.
>
> I once had a Hindu girlfriend, and mainstream Hindus treat the Hari Krishnas the way mainstream Christians treat the moonies.
>
> >>Lets examine this typical response of modern man. You see, it is actually quite foolish. First it is asserted, that everyone says so.
> >Yes, this is known as setting up a straw man.
>
> Why bother being polite? Call it what it is: dishonesty and lying.
>
> >>Then the fact that everyone says so, is used to negate what is being said.
>
> >>If everyone says the same thing, the logical thing to assume is that there must be something to it.
>
> >No, that is not the "logical thing", at least not for the purpose of an argument. This is, in fact, the basic logical fallacy of argumentum ad numerum.
>
> "Eat shit - sixty billion flies can't all be wrong"
>
> >> Not that everyone says the same thing, so therefore it must be false. How does that make sense?
>
> >I have no idea where you're going with this, but since your initial premise is wrong, and you've already tripped over two Logic 101 fallacies, it really doesn't matter...
>
> It was another of his lies.
>
> >> Where is the logic?
>
> >Damned if I know...
>
> >>In fact, you would expect all religions to say basically the same things, because all religions are different cultural expressions of the same Absolute Truth.
>
> What "absolute truth" was the in-your-face serial liar lying about?
>
> >Whoa there, sport! Different cultural expressions, sure, but you've just massively assumed your conclusion of an "absolute truth". Is there a basic logical fallacy you aren't planning on using?
>
> Religionists don't understand just how much of what they take for granted, is unfounded.
>
> >> Surely, the details may vary, but if all
> >>religions are differently conditioned expressions of the same truth, you'd expect they would mention the same basic principles.
>
> >Yet they don't. Which makes the rest of your screed pointless. Another Epic Fail from Jesper.
>
> He's seriously mentally ill. He is obsessed with us and has on more than one occasion said he's only here to take pot shots at us because his dislike for us.
>
> >>And that's what the Vedic version teaches us - that all religions are derived from the original religion from God Himself. If this is indeed
>
> Lies noted.
>
> And what fucking "God himself" was the deluded, question-begging moron talking about?
>
> >>so, it stands to reason that it can be investigated and verified. If it is a fact, it must be discernable. Otherwise it is just some belief, some speculation. And that is how religion is generally judged in modern society - some fanciful speculations and beliefs.
>
> Including this in-your-face, aggressively stupid moron's.
>
> >>Then again, if there is a supreme entity - that which is known as God it is a perfectly logical to assume that He has given a process by which He can be known.
>
> And if pigs had wings thy might fly.
>
> Does the retard have a point?
>
>
>
> >> But in the climate of the contemporary culture
> >>that at present rules the world, it is very unpopular to claim to know the original explanation from the Supreme Himself.
>
> What "the Supreme Himself" was the in-your-face question-begging moron bullshitting about?
>> How can you make such an outrageous claim, comes the response... nobody knows the Absolute Truth. It cannot be known.
>
> Multiple lies noted.
>
> >>So where does this strange idea come from that the Truth cannot be known? It comes from people, of course. It is something the majority of the population is brought up to believe in. But it makes no sense.
>
> >>If there is an Absolute Truth, if there is a God, if there is an ultimate purpose to life, of course it can be known for certain. Why? Because God, being the almighty, omnipresent, all-knowing Supreme, surely He can verify Himself beyond doubt.
>
> Multiple lies and more question-begging noted.
>
> >>And if there is no God, if everything is indeed relative and material, then it cannot be verified. By definition, you can't prove a negative.
>
> >>That's the funny thing about life - if God exists, it can be known for sure, but if God does not exist, it is not possible to know for certain. Note, this is not my opinion, I'm merely stating a fact - if God exists, it can be known, because then God can verify His own existence. And if He does not exist, then it cannot be known. It's as simple as that.
>
> More meaningless, question-begging stupidity.
>
> >>Note how the propaganda-machine tells us the exact opposite.
>
> What "propaganda machine" was the in-your-face serial liar lying about?
It calls religious people believers, and atheists are called unbelievers. How misleading is that? As an atheist you believe in something that cannot be verified.
>
> Lie noted.
>
>
>
> >> But as a theist you believe in something that, at > >> least theoretically, has a chance of being
> >> verified.
>
> So the in-your-face crackpot has either to put up or > shut the fuck up. But being a mentally ill, deluded > in-your-face obsessive he is psychologically
> incapable.
>
> >>Thus it can be concluded that it is a an
> >>intellectually superior position to believe in
> >>God,
>
> Lie noted.
> >> rather than the opposite.
>
> Strawman.
>
>The first assumption, that there is a God, has a chance of verification, whereas the second position, that there is no God, cannot be verified.
>
> The CONCLUSION (is the deluded crackpot even capable > of understanding the difference?) about something
> the deluded crackpot is incapable of understand is
> merely his irrelevant religious belief that we
> wouldn't give a flying fuck about if he kept it to
> himself, is falsifiable - all he has to do is
> provide the verification for it that he bullshits
> about.
>
> >>But if you dare point out these things - even
> >>though they are indisputable facts - you are met
> >>with a wall of resistance - no, no, nobody knows
> >>the truth. God is merely a fairy tale. To believe > >>in God is no more different than believing in
> >>tooth-fairies and Santa Claus.
>
> >>That's what we are told.
>
> Because it isn't - UNTIL THE AGGRESSIVELY STUPID, IN-YOUR-FACE LUNATIC BACKS UP HIS IN-OUR-FACE STUPIDITY.
>
> >>What we can learn from this, is that society is
> >>not ruled by benevolent forces. What kind of
> >>society will educate it's population in something > >>so obviously false?
>
> Theistic societies.
> >> So if you know the truth and you want to inform people about it, you are up against a massive wall of
> >>resistance.
>
> Why do these liars call their religious fantasies "the truth"?
>
> If it really were, they could prove it was.
>
> And they wouldn't need to lie about those who don't share their beliefs.
>
> >>Krishna says:
>
> Mythical figures don't say anything outside the deluded fantasies of the brainwashed.
>
> >>Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from doubt. (Bg 7.1)
>
> >>I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal and numinous. This being known, nothing further shall remain for you to know. (Bg. 7.2)
>
> What "knowledge" was Jesper lying about?
>
> [bullshit deleted]
not enough
>
> Why isn't Jesper in a strait jacket?
Last I heard he said that he was living in India
in a room that was lent to him since he couldn't find a place to stay. I don't know if he's still there or if he has returned to Denmark. He mentioned in an earlier message that his wife and kids were no longer with him. They probably packed up and left, since his
personal ideas are terribly sexist. Jahnu was obviously totally brainwashed and never recovered.
As to his religion: The main Indian god was originally Indra. During a migration/conquest, the main god became Brahman. Krishna, Shiva and Brahma, the main
Hindu gods are avatars of Brahman (or is it the other way around with Brahma and Brahman? I always confuse the two.) There are a whole bunch of other avatars
(including Ramayana and even Jesus). Krishna is portrayed having blue skin because he was a southern god of the dark-skinned Indians. The northerners who had much lighter skin didn't want a black-skinned god (you can see the black-skinned Krishna in early Indian artwork), so they made Krishna and other adopted southern gods blue. In time, some gods took up more importance to some Indian people and they started worshipping them as the main god, but most people worshipped mainly one god but believed that they were still an avatar of Mr.Big. In the 20th century a sham and fraud made up the Hari Krishna 'religion' as a get rich quick scheme. Like the Moonies, they would quite literally capture people and brainwash them. They were the loons who hung out at air ports hopping up and down on one leg selling flowers and trying to reel in more suckers. THAT is what Jahnu (Jesper Wernberg) is.
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:17:49 -0400, raven1
> <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:53:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>wrote:
>
> >>If someone came and told you that everything you hold dear, everything you believe in, everything you thought you knew, all your values, all you hopes and aspirations, all your love for wife, kids, family,
> >>friends, and society, in fact, the entire foundation of your life - it is all wrong, it is all an illusion - you'd probably think that that
> >>someone was on drugs or belonged in a mental institution.
>Or that they spent too much time navel-gazing and chanting to imaginary Hindu gods, because their cult told them to.
>
> Same thing - especially when they refuse either to put up or shut up.
>
> Like Jesper Wernberg.
>
> >>In this modern day and age of relativism and liberalism, it is more or less a no-no to know the Absolute Truth. You are allowed to know with
> >>certainty such things as science and technology,
>
> >Science makes no claim to certainty. All scientific knowledge is provisional.
>
> What "absolute truth" was the in-your-face serial liar lying about?
>
> >>but if you claim that you have ascertained the original, genuine knowledge of religion from
> >>God Himself, if you profess to know God and the real meaning of life, you are immediately dismissed as a deranged fanatic.
> If they claim they get their in-your-face bullshit from some hypothetical god only their fellow cultists believe in, they _are_ deranged fanatics.
>
> >No, actually, most people here have read considerable numbers of your posts before
dismissing you as a deranged fanatic.
>
> Deranged fanatics imagine those who don't believe their delusions, are deluded.
>
> >>All religions claim the same thing, comes the invariable response.
>
> >How would you know? Much of what you think you know about Hinduism is the sectarian interpretation of a cult, and you have demonstrated that know next to nothing about any other religions. Moreover, the
> >statement that "all religions claim the same thing" is true mainly at a superficial level: they all claim knowledge that they cannot support about subjects that cannot be demonstrated to have empirical existence. Beyond that, the specifics of their claims vary wildly.
>
> I once had a Hindu girlfriend, and mainstream Hindus treat the Hari Krishnas the way mainstream Christians treat the moonies.
>
> >>Lets examine this typical response of modern man. You see, it is actually quite foolish. First it is asserted, that everyone says so.
> >Yes, this is known as setting up a straw man.
>
> Why bother being polite? Call it what it is: dishonesty and lying.
>
> >>Then the fact that everyone says so, is used to negate what is being said.
>
> >>If everyone says the same thing, the logical thing to assume is that there must be something to it.
>
> >No, that is not the "logical thing", at least not for the purpose of an argument. This is, in fact, the basic logical fallacy of argumentum ad numerum.
>
> "Eat shit - sixty billion flies can't all be wrong"
>
> >> Not that everyone says the same thing, so therefore it must be false. How does that make sense?
>
> >I have no idea where you're going with this, but since your initial premise is wrong, and you've already tripped over two Logic 101 fallacies, it really doesn't matter...
>
> It was another of his lies.
>
> >> Where is the logic?
>
> >Damned if I know...
>
> >>In fact, you would expect all religions to say basically the same things, because all religions are different cultural expressions of the same Absolute Truth.
>
> What "absolute truth" was the in-your-face serial liar lying about?
>
> >Whoa there, sport! Different cultural expressions, sure, but you've just massively assumed your conclusion of an "absolute truth". Is there a basic logical fallacy you aren't planning on using?
>
> Religionists don't understand just how much of what they take for granted, is unfounded.
>
> >> Surely, the details may vary, but if all
> >>religions are differently conditioned expressions of the same truth, you'd expect they would mention the same basic principles.
>
> >Yet they don't. Which makes the rest of your screed pointless. Another Epic Fail from Jesper.
>
> He's seriously mentally ill. He is obsessed with us and has on more than one occasion said he's only here to take pot shots at us because his dislike for us.
>
> >>And that's what the Vedic version teaches us - that all religions are derived from the original religion from God Himself. If this is indeed
>
> Lies noted.
>
> And what fucking "God himself" was the deluded, question-begging moron talking about?
>
> >>so, it stands to reason that it can be investigated and verified. If it is a fact, it must be discernable. Otherwise it is just some belief, some speculation. And that is how religion is generally judged in modern society - some fanciful speculations and beliefs.
>
> Including this in-your-face, aggressively stupid moron's.
>
> >>Then again, if there is a supreme entity - that which is known as God it is a perfectly logical to assume that He has given a process by which He can be known.
>
> And if pigs had wings thy might fly.
>
> Does the retard have a point?
>
>
>
> >> But in the climate of the contemporary culture
> >>that at present rules the world, it is very unpopular to claim to know the original explanation from the Supreme Himself.
>
> What "the Supreme Himself" was the in-your-face question-begging moron bullshitting about?
>> How can you make such an outrageous claim, comes the response... nobody knows the Absolute Truth. It cannot be known.
>
> Multiple lies noted.
>
> >>So where does this strange idea come from that the Truth cannot be known? It comes from people, of course. It is something the majority of the population is brought up to believe in. But it makes no sense.
>
> >>If there is an Absolute Truth, if there is a God, if there is an ultimate purpose to life, of course it can be known for certain. Why? Because God, being the almighty, omnipresent, all-knowing Supreme, surely He can verify Himself beyond doubt.
>
> Multiple lies and more question-begging noted.
>
> >>And if there is no God, if everything is indeed relative and material, then it cannot be verified. By definition, you can't prove a negative.
>
> >>That's the funny thing about life - if God exists, it can be known for sure, but if God does not exist, it is not possible to know for certain. Note, this is not my opinion, I'm merely stating a fact - if God exists, it can be known, because then God can verify His own existence. And if He does not exist, then it cannot be known. It's as simple as that.
>
> More meaningless, question-begging stupidity.
>
> >>Note how the propaganda-machine tells us the exact opposite.
>
> What "propaganda machine" was the in-your-face serial liar lying about?
It calls religious people believers, and atheists are called unbelievers. How misleading is that? As an atheist you believe in something that cannot be verified.
>
> Lie noted.
>
>
>
> >> But as a theist you believe in something that, at > >> least theoretically, has a chance of being
> >> verified.
>
> So the in-your-face crackpot has either to put up or > shut the fuck up. But being a mentally ill, deluded > in-your-face obsessive he is psychologically
> incapable.
>
> >>Thus it can be concluded that it is a an
> >>intellectually superior position to believe in
> >>God,
>
> Lie noted.
> >> rather than the opposite.
>
> Strawman.
>
>The first assumption, that there is a God, has a chance of verification, whereas the second position, that there is no God, cannot be verified.
>
> The CONCLUSION (is the deluded crackpot even capable > of understanding the difference?) about something
> the deluded crackpot is incapable of understand is
> merely his irrelevant religious belief that we
> wouldn't give a flying fuck about if he kept it to
> himself, is falsifiable - all he has to do is
> provide the verification for it that he bullshits
> about.
>
> >>But if you dare point out these things - even
> >>though they are indisputable facts - you are met
> >>with a wall of resistance - no, no, nobody knows
> >>the truth. God is merely a fairy tale. To believe > >>in God is no more different than believing in
> >>tooth-fairies and Santa Claus.
>
> >>That's what we are told.
>
> Because it isn't - UNTIL THE AGGRESSIVELY STUPID, IN-YOUR-FACE LUNATIC BACKS UP HIS IN-OUR-FACE STUPIDITY.
>
> >>What we can learn from this, is that society is
> >>not ruled by benevolent forces. What kind of
> >>society will educate it's population in something > >>so obviously false?
>
> Theistic societies.
> >> So if you know the truth and you want to inform people about it, you are up against a massive wall of
> >>resistance.
>
> Why do these liars call their religious fantasies "the truth"?
>
> If it really were, they could prove it was.
>
> And they wouldn't need to lie about those who don't share their beliefs.
>
> >>Krishna says:
>
> Mythical figures don't say anything outside the deluded fantasies of the brainwashed.
>
> >>Now hear, O son of Prtha, how by practicing yoga in full consciousness of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in full, free from doubt. (Bg 7.1)
>
> >>I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal and numinous. This being known, nothing further shall remain for you to know. (Bg. 7.2)
>
> What "knowledge" was Jesper lying about?
>
> [bullshit deleted]
not enough
>
> Why isn't Jesper in a strait jacket?
Last I heard he said that he was living in India
in a room that was lent to him since he couldn't find a place to stay. I don't know if he's still there or if he has returned to Denmark. He mentioned in an earlier message that his wife and kids were no longer with him. They probably packed up and left, since his
personal ideas are terribly sexist. Jahnu was obviously totally brainwashed and never recovered.
As to his religion: The main Indian god was originally Indra. During a migration/conquest, the main god became Brahman. Krishna, Shiva and Brahma, the main
Hindu gods are avatars of Brahman (or is it the other way around with Brahma and Brahman? I always confuse the two.) There are a whole bunch of other avatars
(including Ramayana and even Jesus). Krishna is portrayed having blue skin because he was a southern god of the dark-skinned Indians. The northerners who had much lighter skin didn't want a black-skinned god (you can see the black-skinned Krishna in early Indian artwork), so they made Krishna and other adopted southern gods blue. In time, some gods took up more importance to some Indian people and they started worshipping them as the main god, but most people worshipped mainly one god but believed that they were still an avatar of Mr.Big. In the 20th century a sham and fraud made up the Hari Krishna 'religion' as a get rich quick scheme. Like the Moonies, they would quite literally capture people and brainwash them. They were the loons who hung out at air ports hopping up and down on one leg selling flowers and trying to reel in more suckers. THAT is what Jahnu (Jesper Wernberg) is.
hypatiab7
Oct 23, 2012, 4:24:48 AM10/23/12
to
On Monday, October 22, 2012 10:39:48 PM UTC-4, Jahnu wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:17:13 -0700 (PDT), Yap went:
>
> <yap yap yap>
>
> Krishna says:
>
natter natter natter
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:17:13 -0700 (PDT), Yap went:
>
> <yap yap yap>
>
> Krishna says:
>
How does getting your own medicine feel?
hypatiab7
Oct 23, 2012, 4:33:09 AM10/23/12
to
On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:37:56 PM UTC-4, Constance Knoring wrote:
> Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
>
> news:cmis78tvfn2c1v493...@4ax.com:
> Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com> wrote in
>
> > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:16:39 +0000 (UTC), Constance Boring ranted:
> >>you ever been to prison boi??????? you woodnt last one day without getting fucking shivved or punched or assraped or something violent, and you know why?????? cuzz your a fuckni goofball!!!!!!!
>
> >>you need to be locked up in the fucking mental hospitol cuzz your such a deluded sun of a fucked up bitch , yoore mental state is fucked!!!!!!! totally fucking fucked!!!!!!!!
>
> >>if you called someone a fucking dog in prison do you know what will fucking happen to you???????? theyll make you crawl on your fucken hands and nees and beg to be gang-assraped and then thell knock out
> >>yer teeth and make you give bloody blow jobs to eveyr fucker who fucking wants one!!!!!! yore a stupid hsit!!!!!!!!
>
> >>go piss up a fucking rope!!!!!!!!!
>
> > hehe, dude, you really need to get laid. Of course, you were born ugly, so you've always had a hard time getting laid, but your lack of personal hygiene dosn't help matters. Have you tried with a shower...I mean, apart from the weekly one you have in the sink? Try that, then report back if it helped. Who knows, maybe even a speech therapist could help you... hahaha :)
>
> > Hey look, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
Wagga wagga woo
> what a asshole you are , twistign things cuzz thats you , totally fucking fucked up , full of shit and fucking proud to be full of shit cuzz your too fuckin stupidd to get it!!!!!!!!!
>
> hey zipperhead go piss up a fuckin rope!!!!!!!!!!
You're getting repetitive, Zachy. Jahnu is mentally
ill like you, but he doesn't (as far as I know) have
multiple personalities.
hypatiab7
Oct 23, 2012, 4:54:16 AM10/23/12
to
On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:40:46 PM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:05:23 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>wrote:
> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
> ><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
> >>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
> >>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
> >Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe.
>
> Why can' you stop lying about the very people you lie to?
It's not like atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely nonsense.
This from as brainwashed idiot whose wife and kids left him.
>
> Why can't your co-religionists in alt.religion.vaisnava keep your lies and nastiness about those who don't believe what you do, under
> control?
They've tried. They don't like him any better there than we do here. After all, Jahnu is insane.
>
> >---but,but, but It's not like the amoeba grew legs > > and learned to talk. It happened over long time
> > through series of little changes.
>
> Evolution is nothing whatsoever to do with atheism, > pathological liar - it is accepted by educated
> people of all religions.
>
> >hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
>
> >Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why > >don't we see amoebas and other living entities in
> >the process of changing. All we have ever seen are > >the species as they appear today. Where are all the
> >species in the process of changing into other
> >species? Care to elaborate on that, Birdman?
>
> You're certifiably insane.
This has been explained to him many times. He ignores the answer.
>
> >Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate. The last thing he wants to do is have to explain the rationale behind his lame convictions.
Evolution isn't immediate, twit. It occurs over
a long period of time.
>
> Lie noted.
Lying is all Jesper knows how to do. He can no longer think for himself. All he can do is quote and repeat
the same dumb questions over and over. I doubt that he
reads the answers. Like Christians, he is afraid to doubt. Thinking makes his head hurt.
>
> >Hey look, Birdman, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
Oh, look at the pretty birdies!
>
>
> Why do you imagine a book of ancient myths and legends has any relevance?
It's his Linus blanket.
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:05:23 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>wrote:
> >On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:23:56 -0400, raven1
> ><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
> >>Jesper is quite happy to repeat the same idiotic strawman about evolution, as he has learned nothing about what it actually claims in the nearly 20 years he's been here on alt.atheism. This is what our
> >>Catholic friends like to call "Invincible Ignorance".
>
> >Of course, it's not so flattering to believe that amoebas grow legs and learn to talk, but that's exactly what you believe.
>
> Why can' you stop lying about the very people you lie to?
It's not like atheists are non-believers, as they fancy to call themselves. As an atheist you believe in the most idiotic, unintelligent, unlikely nonsense.
This from as brainwashed idiot whose wife and kids left him.
>
> Why can't your co-religionists in alt.religion.vaisnava keep your lies and nastiness about those who don't believe what you do, under
> control?
They've tried. They don't like him any better there than we do here. After all, Jahnu is insane.
>
> >---but,but, but It's not like the amoeba grew legs > > and learned to talk. It happened over long time
> > through series of little changes.
>
> Evolution is nothing whatsoever to do with atheism, > pathological liar - it is accepted by educated
> people of all religions.
>
> >hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
>
> >Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why > >don't we see amoebas and other living entities in
> >the process of changing. All we have ever seen are > >the species as they appear today. Where are all the
> >species in the process of changing into other
> >species? Care to elaborate on that, Birdman?
>
> You're certifiably insane.
This has been explained to him many times. He ignores the answer.
>
> >Now watch Birdman squirm and obfuscate. The last thing he wants to do is have to explain the rationale behind his lame convictions.
Evolution isn't immediate, twit. It occurs over
a long period of time.
>
> Lie noted.
Lying is all Jesper knows how to do. He can no longer think for himself. All he can do is quote and repeat
the same dumb questions over and over. I doubt that he
reads the answers. Like Christians, he is afraid to doubt. Thinking makes his head hurt.
>
> >Hey look, Birdman, you are in the Bhagavad Gita - Krishna says:
Oh, look at the pretty birdies!
>
>
> Why do you imagine a book of ancient myths and legends has any relevance?
It's his Linus blanket.
raven1
Oct 23, 2012, 11:19:45 AM10/23/12
to
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:43:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:24:36 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Nope. Only in the sense found in definition 2.
>
>I am not expressing a belief here,
You are expressing a delusion here.
> I'm simply stating a fact. To
>compare the Birdman to me, is like comparing a tricycle to a BMW. I'm
>not saying this out of arrogance or personal ambition or anything like
>it
You are saying it out of very obvious mental illness that causes you
to wildly overestimate your own intelligence, knowledge, and abilities
to a degree bordering on hubris. Whether this is a result of drug
abuse, brainwashing, an underlying pathology, or a combination of
factors is unclear, but also unimportant: the bottom line is that
you're a walking, chanting epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect in
action.
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:24:36 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Nope. Only in the sense found in definition 2.
>
>I am not expressing a belief here,
> I'm simply stating a fact. To
>compare the Birdman to me, is like comparing a tricycle to a BMW. I'm
>not saying this out of arrogance or personal ambition or anything like
>it
to wildly overestimate your own intelligence, knowledge, and abilities
to a degree bordering on hubris. Whether this is a result of drug
abuse, brainwashing, an underlying pathology, or a combination of
factors is unclear, but also unimportant: the bottom line is that
you're a walking, chanting epitome of the Dunning-Kruger effect in
action.
Dakota
Oct 23, 2012, 8:25:37 PM10/23/12
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On 10/23/2012 10:19 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:43:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:24:36 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope. Only in the sense found in definition 2.
>>
>> I am not expressing a belief here,
>
Non sequitur. Nothing about beliefs in definition 2. Your claim was:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:43:00 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:24:36 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope. Only in the sense found in definition 2.
>>
>> I am not expressing a belief here,
>
"You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word."
2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
>
Jahnu
Oct 24, 2012, 4:08:33 AM10/24/12
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:25:37 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
>2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
I have no high opinion of myself. I have a high opinion of Krishna.
That's the difference. The reason I'm superior to you, is because of
Krishna, nothing else...
You are like a dog without a master, or your paster is crooked. . I'm
a dog with the best master :)
Krishna says:
My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)
This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)
wrote:
>2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
That's the difference. The reason I'm superior to you, is because of
Krishna, nothing else...
You are like a dog without a master, or your paster is crooked. . I'm
a dog with the best master :)
Krishna says:
My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)
This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)
raven1
Oct 24, 2012, 8:53:50 AM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:38:33 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:25:37 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
>
>I have no high opinion of myself.
ROTFLMAO! Whatever you say, Jesper...
wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:25:37 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
>
>I have no high opinion of myself.
Jahnu
Oct 24, 2012, 9:26:07 AM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:53:50 -0400, raven1 squawked
ROTFLMAO
Wow, that sounds intelligent :) <SMACK! - down boy, down>
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a
superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry
and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about
in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
- Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
ROTFLMAO
Wow, that sounds intelligent :) <SMACK! - down boy, down>
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a
superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry
and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about
in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
- Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
raven1
Oct 24, 2012, 10:01:21 AM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:56:07 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:53:50 -0400, raven1 squawked
>
>ROTFLMAO
>
>Wow, that sounds intelligent :)
As if you'd know.
> <SMACK! - down boy, down>
>
>"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a
>superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry
>and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about
>in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
>overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>
> - Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
Hoyle's largely a crank outside his field, and, quite often, even in
it. This is a good example.
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:53:50 -0400, raven1 squawked
>
>ROTFLMAO
>
>Wow, that sounds intelligent :)
> <SMACK! - down boy, down>
>
>"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a
>superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry
>and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about
>in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so
>overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>
> - Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
it. This is a good example.
Jahnu
Oct 24, 2012, 10:11:07 AM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:01:21 -0400, raven1 went>
<squawk squawk>
"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism,
but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for
while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may
sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the
chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to
Providence and Deity." - Sir Francis Bacon
<squawk squawk>
"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism,
but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for
while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may
sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the
chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to
Providence and Deity." - Sir Francis Bacon
Malcolm McMahon
Oct 24, 2012, 10:42:22 AM10/24/12
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On Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:35:32 UTC+1, Jahnu wrote:
> hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
>
> Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
>
> amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
>
> have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
>
> species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
>
> elaborate on that, Birdman?
>
>
Oh, for heavens sake, we _do_ see these changes. Bacteria can evolve in hours. Where do you think the enormous spectrum of dogs came from? (Dogs are to wolves as humans are to apes).
> hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
>
> Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
>
> amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
>
> have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
>
> species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
>
> elaborate on that, Birdman?
>
>
If you didn't know they'd all evolved from the same species, would you imagine that a St. Bernard and an Yorkie were of the same species?
As to the big breakthroughs, like when several bacteria got together to form a shell, and when multiple cells got together to form a multi-cellular organism, we pulled the ladder up behind is, any attempt to do that again would be too primitive to compete with the ones already there.
raven1
Oct 24, 2012, 11:47:05 AM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:41:07 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:01:21 -0400, raven1 went>
>
><squawk squawk>
>
>"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism,
>but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for
>while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may
>sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the
>chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to
>Providence and Deity." - Sir Francis Bacon
And his opinion should interest anyone why?
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:01:21 -0400, raven1 went>
>
><squawk squawk>
>
>"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism,
>but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for
>while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may
>sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the
>chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to
>Providence and Deity." - Sir Francis Bacon
Devils Advocaat
Oct 24, 2012, 4:12:54 PM10/24/12
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On 21 Oct, 16:31, ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
> Krishna saz: "Jahnu one REALLY FUCKED UP PIECE O' SHIT!"
How can an imaginary god drool?
> Krishna saz: "Jahnu one REALLY FUCKED UP PIECE O' SHIT!"
hypatiab7
Oct 24, 2012, 5:17:47 PM10/24/12
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On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:08:40 AM UTC-4, Jahnu wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:25:37 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>wrote:
>
> >2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
>
> I have no high opinion of myself. I have a high opinion of Krishna.
>
> That's the difference. The reason I'm superior to you, is because of Krishna, nothing else...
The fact that you consider yourself superior to
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:25:37 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>wrote:
>
> >2 having or showing an overly high opinion of oneself;
>
> I have no high opinion of myself. I have a high opinion of Krishna.
>
> That's the difference. The reason I'm superior to you, is because of Krishna, nothing else...
anyone is evidence of your mental illness.
Your Krishna was probably a southern Indian military leader who was so admired that his stories eventually
became exaggerated into mythology and he promoted to godhood. Of course, he had very dark skin, so the northerners who adopted him gave him a blue paintjob to hide his origins. Bigotry is like that.
>
> You are like a dog without a master, or your paster is crooked. . I'm a dog with the best master :)
Why are you insulting dogs? What did dogs ever do to you? They're definitely a lot nicer than you are.Besides, I prefer cats. And, in admitting that you need a master you are admitting that you are afraid to think for yourself, have no self-image and fear to take credit for your own actions.
> You are like a dog without a master, or your paster is crooked. . I'm a dog with the best master :)
>
> Krishna says:
Zippity do dah day
hypatiab7
Oct 24, 2012, 5:36:06 PM10/24/12
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On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:08:54 AM UTC-4, Jahnu wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:57:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
>
> >Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying. To not change after that would be insanity.
>
> Krishna says:Krishna says:
Present arms! All six of them!
In the almost 15 years Jesper's been in and out of aa, he has never provided proof or evidence of anything.
He's just a quoter, since he can't think for himself. Like Earl/Duke, he giggles a lot and tries to sound
superior to everyone. All he manages to do is come across as a total loon (like Earl/Duke).
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:57:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >If somebody came up to me and told me all those things I'd kick his ass.
>
> >Unless, of course, he provided evidence that proved what he was saying. To not change after that would be insanity.
>
> Krishna says:Krishna says:
Present arms! All six of them!
In the almost 15 years Jesper's been in and out of aa, he has never provided proof or evidence of anything.
He's just a quoter, since he can't think for himself. Like Earl/Duke, he giggles a lot and tries to sound
superior to everyone. All he manages to do is come across as a total loon (like Earl/Duke).
Dakota
Oct 24, 2012, 6:00:18 PM10/24/12
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response that clearly demonstrated his inflated ego. Here it is again:
Jahnu
Oct 24, 2012, 8:30:49 PM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:00:18 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
>It's especially hilarious that Jahnu twice snipped the part of my
>response that clearly demonstrated his inflated ego. Here it is again:
hahaha :) Some anti-intellectual retard asserts something on aa - the
only thing that demonstrates is that atheism is damaging to your
brain.
>"You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word."
Just stating plain facts, dude....
wrote:
>It's especially hilarious that Jahnu twice snipped the part of my
>response that clearly demonstrated his inflated ego. Here it is again:
only thing that demonstrates is that atheism is damaging to your
brain.
>"You forget, I'm superior to you in every sense of the word."
raven1
Oct 25, 2012, 6:48:57 PM10/25/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:00:49 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:00:18 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>It's especially hilarious that Jahnu twice snipped the part of my
>>response that clearly demonstrated his inflated ego. Here it is again:
>
>hahaha :) Some anti-intellectual retard asserts something on aa
Yes, you do that quite often, Jesper.
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:00:18 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>It's especially hilarious that Jahnu twice snipped the part of my
>>response that clearly demonstrated his inflated ego. Here it is again:
>
>hahaha :) Some anti-intellectual retard asserts something on aa
Jahnu
Oct 25, 2012, 8:49:18 PM10/25/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:48:57 -0400, raven1 went:
<squawk squawk>
Krishna says:
After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)
<squawk squawk>
Krishna says:
After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge
surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all
that is. Such a great soul is very rare. (Bg 7.19)
linuxgal
Oct 26, 2012, 11:51:07 AM10/26/12
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Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> On Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:35:32 UTC+1, Jahnu wrote:
>
>> hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
>>
>> Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
>>
>> amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
>>
>> have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
>>
>> species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
>>
>> elaborate on that, Birdman?
>>
>>
>
> Oh, for heavens sake, we _do_ see these changes. Bacteria can evolve in hours. Where do you think the enormous spectrum of dogs came from? (Dogs are to wolves as humans are to apes).
He obviously never did the experiment in high school biology producing
> On Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:35:32 UTC+1, Jahnu wrote:
>
>> hahaha :) Do you see now, how atheism has damaged your brain, Birdman?
>>
>> Tell me this, if your retard beliefs were true, why don't we see
>>
>> amoebas and other living entities in the process of changing. All we
>>
>> have ever seen are the species as they appear today. Where are all the
>>
>> species in the process of changing into other species? Care to
>>
>> elaborate on that, Birdman?
>>
>>
>
> Oh, for heavens sake, we _do_ see these changes. Bacteria can evolve in hours. Where do you think the enormous spectrum of dogs came from? (Dogs are to wolves as humans are to apes).
mutant fruit flies with an isotope.
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linuxgal
Oct 26, 2012, 11:52:04 AM10/26/12
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raven1 wrote:
>
> Hoyle's largely a crank outside his field, and, quite often, even in
> it. This is a good example.
>
Even inside his field, his steady state theory was falsified.
>
> Hoyle's largely a crank outside his field, and, quite often, even in
> it. This is a good example.
>
Jahnu
Oct 26, 2012, 8:53:14 PM10/26/12
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:52:04 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote:
>raven1 wrote:
>>
>> Hoyle's largely a crank outside his field, and, quite often, even in
>> it. This is a good example.
>>
>
>Even inside his field, his steady state theory was falsified.
The bacteriologist Alan H. Linton wrote:
"None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been
shown to evolve into another. Bacteria, the simplest form of
independent life, are ideal for this kind of study, with generation
times of twenty to thirty minutes, and populations achieved after
eighteen hours. But throughout 150 years of the science of
bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has
changed into another. Since there is no evidence for species changes
between the simplest forms of unicellular life, it is not surprising
that there is no evidence for evolution from prokaryotic to eukaryotic
cells, let alone throughout the whole array of higher muliticellular
organisms."
Evolutionary biologists Lynn Margulis and Dorion Sagan echoed the same
thing in 2002:
"Speciation, whether in the remote Galapagos, in the laboratory cages
of the drosophilosophers, or in the crowded sediments of the
paleontologists, still has never been traced."
"Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself
whether I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy." (Charles Darwin,
The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin)
wrote:
>raven1 wrote:
>>
>> Hoyle's largely a crank outside his field, and, quite often, even in
>> it. This is a good example.
>>
>
>Even inside his field, his steady state theory was falsified.
"None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been
shown to evolve into another. Bacteria, the simplest form of
independent life, are ideal for this kind of study, with generation
times of twenty to thirty minutes, and populations achieved after
eighteen hours. But throughout 150 years of the science of
bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has
changed into another. Since there is no evidence for species changes
between the simplest forms of unicellular life, it is not surprising
that there is no evidence for evolution from prokaryotic to eukaryotic
cells, let alone throughout the whole array of higher muliticellular
organisms."
Evolutionary biologists Lynn Margulis and Dorion Sagan echoed the same
thing in 2002:
"Speciation, whether in the remote Galapagos, in the laboratory cages
of the drosophilosophers, or in the crowded sediments of the
paleontologists, still has never been traced."
"Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself
whether I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy." (Charles Darwin,
The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin)
Samuel Harrigon
Oct 27, 2012, 7:18:34 PM10/27/12
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hypatiab7 <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:b0b5f8c9-3586-4803...@googlegroups.com:
Zacharias was having some challenges with some really bad bug spray for a
while, but it's all been flushed out of his system now and he's back to
being a God-fearing Warrior of the cloth for the One Lamb Virgin.
Jahnu is a sad example of what happens to souls when they don't embrace
the loving kindness of Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Heavenly Saviour, but
you can rest assure that God will never give up on anyone and Jahnu, like
all you Atheists, will always be warmly encouraged turn your backs to
blasphemy and bend over to His universal will to let him fill you with
His infinite stream of love.
Rev. Samuel Harrigon
Good Old Gospel Ship Church
news:b0b5f8c9-3586-4803...@googlegroups.com:
while, but it's all been flushed out of his system now and he's back to
being a God-fearing Warrior of the cloth for the One Lamb Virgin.
Jahnu is a sad example of what happens to souls when they don't embrace
the loving kindness of Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Heavenly Saviour, but
you can rest assure that God will never give up on anyone and Jahnu, like
all you Atheists, will always be warmly encouraged turn your backs to
blasphemy and bend over to His universal will to let him fill you with
His infinite stream of love.
Rev. Samuel Harrigon
Good Old Gospel Ship Church
raven1
Oct 28, 2012, 5:15:58 PM10/28/12
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:19:18 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:48:57 -0400, raven1 went:
>
><squawk squawk>
Run away, Jesper! Run away!
wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:48:57 -0400, raven1 went:
>
><squawk squawk>
Jahnu
Oct 28, 2012, 6:40:29 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:15:58 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>Run away, Jesper! Run away!
You wish...
Krishna says:
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.
--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12
>Run away, Jesper! Run away!
Krishna says:
O learned Uddhava, those who fix their consciousness on Me, giving up
all material desires, share with Me a happiness that cannot possibly
be experienced by those engaged in sense gratification.
--Srimad Bhagavatam 11.14.12
raven1
Oct 28, 2012, 8:50:49 PM10/28/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 04:10:29 +0530, Jahnu <Jahn...@gamail.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:15:58 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>
>>Run away, Jesper! Run away!
>
>You wish...
I observe. Along with everyone else who reads your posts. That's
somewhere around a dozen times in the past day or so that you punked
out and fled, spewing an irrelevant quote in your wake. What a credit
to your cult you are.
wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:15:58 -0400, raven1 squawked:
>
>>Run away, Jesper! Run away!
>
>You wish...
somewhere around a dozen times in the past day or so that you punked
out and fled, spewing an irrelevant quote in your wake. What a credit
to your cult you are.
Dakota
Oct 28, 2012, 10:01:17 PM10/28/12
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against Dalits fostered by his hateful religion.
Jahnu
Oct 28, 2012, 10:41:28 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:01:17 -0500, Dakota rambled:
>Janhu ran like a scalded cat from my post about the discrimination
>against Dalits fostered by his hateful religion.
You wish...
What's wrong with religion? It's lack of religion that breaks the
modern culture down, as we speak. Atheists are doing no good for
themselves or the world. They are an utterly useless presence on the
planet. In fact, the presence of the Coca-cola culture, they have
created, is a burden to nature and her inhabitants. It's like a cancer
on the planet, and nature is fully equipped to rid herself of it. She
just shakes her shoulders - it seems like a 100 years to us - and
everything comes tumbling down - earthquakes, hurricanes, floods and
so on...
Krishna says:
This material nature, which is one of My energies, is working under My
direction, O son of Kunti, producing all moving and nonmoving beings.
Under its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and
again. (Bg 9.10)
But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg 4.40)
>Janhu ran like a scalded cat from my post about the discrimination
>against Dalits fostered by his hateful religion.
What's wrong with religion? It's lack of religion that breaks the
modern culture down, as we speak. Atheists are doing no good for
themselves or the world. They are an utterly useless presence on the
planet. In fact, the presence of the Coca-cola culture, they have
created, is a burden to nature and her inhabitants. It's like a cancer
on the planet, and nature is fully equipped to rid herself of it. She
just shakes her shoulders - it seems like a 100 years to us - and
everything comes tumbling down - earthquakes, hurricanes, floods and
so on...
Krishna says:
This material nature, which is one of My energies, is working under My
direction, O son of Kunti, producing all moving and nonmoving beings.
Under its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and
again. (Bg 9.10)
But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg 4.40)
Zacharias Mulletstein
Oct 29, 2012, 7:54:02 AM10/29/12
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Samuel Harrigon <samha...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0F9A5E6...@94.75.214.39:
That's a lie! I was not having any challenges, the bug spray actually
helps me get smarter so that I can beat all these Atheists who keep
shoving all their lack of morality down everyone's throats!
You're also not the real Samual Harrigon, you're the forger! Why are you
forging so much on this chat board? Why can't you just use your real name
like I do? Because you have no honor, and that is all caused by your
Atheism. There is no question of this.
> Jahnu is a sad example of what happens to souls when they don't
> embrace the loving kindness of Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Heavenly
> Saviour, but you can rest assure that God will never give up on anyone
> and Jahnu, like all you Atheists, will always be warmly encouraged
> turn your backs to blasphemy and bend over to His universal will to
> let him fill you with His infinite stream of love.
Jahnu will burn in Hell because he picked the wrong religion. It's that
simple.
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helps me get smarter so that I can beat all these Atheists who keep
shoving all their lack of morality down everyone's throats!
You're also not the real Samual Harrigon, you're the forger! Why are you
forging so much on this chat board? Why can't you just use your real name
like I do? Because you have no honor, and that is all caused by your
Atheism. There is no question of this.
> Jahnu is a sad example of what happens to souls when they don't
> embrace the loving kindness of Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Heavenly
> Saviour, but you can rest assure that God will never give up on anyone
> and Jahnu, like all you Atheists, will always be warmly encouraged
> turn your backs to blasphemy and bend over to His universal will to
> let him fill you with His infinite stream of love.
simple.
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