"Smartest Man in the World" Preaches Darwinism And Eugenics
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Smartest Man in the World Espouses Virtues of Eugenics
Chris Langan is the World’s Smartest Man. That’s not an opinion, it’s
a statement of fact. Mr. Langan’s IQ is nearly 200. Oh, and he’s spent
20 years being a bouncer at a bar.
This guy has had a rough life. As a kid he was abused by other kids
and even his step father because he was smarter than all of them were.
And if you listen to this entire interview with him you’ll see why
he’s kind of pessimistic.
In reality, it’s pretty easy to see why he’s this way. In addition to
the fact that he’s been brutalized all his life, during the interview
he points out:
“Smart people are vastly outnumbered by average people. Its the
nature of the bell curve.”
Chris Langan IQ ComparisonHere’s another way to think about this.
Think about how much smarter you are than a really, really mentally
retarded person.
An average person’s IQ is about 100, and that really retarded person
is maybe 65 for a measly 35 point difference. Well, the deficit
between Chris and the average person is nearly 300% greater! Heck, the
difference between him and a genius is as great as the difference
between a genius and a retarded person!
Now, imagine if you were that much smarter than every single living
person around! Actually, don’t bother. Your puny brain probably
doesn’t have the capacity to imagine that… Damn. I guess I’d be bitter
too. It reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.
Anyway, having said all that, one problem I’ve noticed with extremely
smart people is that they begin thinking that their one brain is
actually more powerful than all the other brains around them combined.
And Chris falls into this trap during the final video when he begins
espousing the virtues of placing genetic controls on “human breeding”.
Chris Langan:
People who wanted to have children would apply to make sure they
have no diseases. Why do we have to do it through genetic engineering?
Well, we have to let only the fit breed…. Freedom is not necessarily a
right. It is a privilege that you have to earn. A lot of people abuse
their freedom and that is something that people have to be trained not
to do.
Interviewer:
But who? Who does this training?
Chris Langan:
Well, I’d be perfectly willing to do it myself. Just put me in
charge.”
Yikes! Pretty scary stuff. Sounds like the precursor to Nazi Germany,
or something from a Borg episode of Star Trek.
If you actually watched all the parts of this, did you come out
wondering how someone who scores so high on tests that measure problem
solving ability could score so low on ability to relate to humanity in
general? Could it be that individuals with brains that are highly
specialized in one area simply become deficient in another?
Because really, I may be a mental midget when it comes to quickly
calculating squares and dots on an IQ test compared to Mr Langan, but
I could teach him volumes about how to relate to society. It seems to
me that his attitude is that since he is “smarter”, his opinions
should simply be accepted. But frankly, I don’t believe he is actually
capable of comprehending anything that I cannot. He may arrive at a
conclusion quicker, but this doesn’t mean that he doesn’t need to
bring the rest of us along with him.
Oh, one last thing. Chris penned what he calls the Cognitive Theoretic
Model of the Universe in 2001, subtitled “The Theory of Theories.”
Man, I really wish he’d read my article about conservation of words. I
skimmed through the whole thing and frankly I’ve never seen so many
words used to end in no point whatsoever!
Official retraction (the first one ever! Yeah!)Due to some poor search
results, coupled with poor research, and compounded by poor Web
design, I originally incorrectly linked to Mr. Langan’s Theory of
Theories. Seeing how this was in no way related to a model of the
universe I figured it was crap! However, the real CTMU can be found
here. So have fun.
Anyway, feel free to check it out you feeble minded little humans!
monkie
> http://onemansblog.com/2007/11/06/smartest-man-in-the-world-has-diarrhea-of-the-mouth/
>
>
> Smartest Man in the World Espouses Virtues of Eugenics
>
>
> a statement of fact. Mr. Langan�s IQ is nearly 200. Oh, and he�s spent
> 20 years being a bouncer at a bar.
>
> This guy has had a rough life. As a kid he was abused by other kids
> and even his step father because he was smarter than all of them were.
> he�s kind of pessimistic.
>
> In reality, it�s pretty easy to see why he�s this way. In addition to
> the fact that he�s been brutalized all his life, during the interview
> he points out:
>
> �Smart people are vastly outnumbered by average people. Its the
> nature of the bell curve.�
>
> Chris Langan IQ ComparisonHere�s another way to think about this.
> Think about how much smarter you are than a really, really mentally
> retarded person.
>
> is maybe 65 for a measly 35 point difference. Well, the deficit
> between Chris and the average person is nearly 300% greater! Heck, the
> difference between him and a genius is as great as the difference
> between a genius and a retarded person!
>
> Now, imagine if you were that much smarter than every single living
> doesn�t have the capacity to imagine that� Damn. I guess I�d be bitter
> too. It reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.
>
> smart people is that they begin thinking that their one brain is
> actually more powerful than all the other brains around them combined.
> And Chris falls into this trap during the final video when he begins
>
> Chris Langan:
>
> People who wanted to have children would apply to make sure they
> have no diseases. Why do we have to do it through genetic engineering?
> right. It is a privilege that you have to earn. A lot of people abuse
> their freedom and that is something that people have to be trained not
> to do.
>
> Interviewer:
>
> But who? Who does this training?
>
> Chris Langan:
>
> charge.�
>
> Yikes! Pretty scary stuff. Sounds like the precursor to Nazi Germany,
> or something from a Borg episode of Star Trek.
>
> If you actually watched all the parts of this, did you come out
> wondering how someone who scores so high on tests that measure problem
> solving ability could score so low on ability to relate to humanity in
> general? Could it be that individuals with brains that are highly
> specialized in one area simply become deficient in another?
Wrong question. Misleading. An attempt to lump all people with high
IQs into the same behavior basket (which is how facists reason). They
are not simply deficient in another area. Langdon's lack of success
made him deficient.
>
> Because really, I may be a mental midget when it comes to quickly
> calculating squares and dots on an IQ test compared to Mr Langan, but
> I could teach him volumes about how to relate to society. It seems to
> me that his attitude is that since he is �smarter�, his opinions
> should simply be accepted. But frankly, I don�t believe he is actually
> capable of comprehending anything that I cannot. He may arrive at a
> conclusion quicker, but this doesn�t mean that he doesn�t need to
> bring the rest of us along with him.
>
> Oh, one last thing. Chris penned what he calls the Cognitive Theoretic
> Model of the Universe in 2001, subtitled �The Theory of Theories.�
> Man, I really wish he�d read my article about conservation of words. I
> skimmed through the whole thing and frankly I�ve never seen so many
> words used to end in no point whatsoever!
Yes, to him its ABC, and you cannot keep up with his brain. Perhaps
your deficiency is the problem.
>
> Official retraction (the first one ever! Yeah!)Due to some poor search
> results, coupled with poor research, and compounded by poor Web
> design, I originally incorrectly linked to Mr. Langan�s Theory of
> Theories. Seeing how this was in no way related to a model of the
> universe I figured it was crap! However, the real CTMU can be found
> here. So have fun.
So you just figure. Do you pose too?
>
> Anyway, feel free to check it out you feeble minded little humans!
Malcolm Gladwell's book _Outlier_ argues Chris Langdon was born in the
wrong place at the wrong time, experienced an unfortunate series of life
events that resulted in his career as a doorman.
There are other people with IQs close to Langdon whose lives had very
different outcomes. Langdon's IQ does *not* characterize other people
with high IQs and his views are not necessarily shared by them. If he
displays conceit or contempt, it belongs to him.
Gladwell concludes Langdon's lack of success is the result of chance --
where he was born, when he was born, his parents decisions, money and
poverty, life style choices, and most importantly the of lack application.
Being born with a high IQ is not a recipe for success, rather
application of the IQ at the right time in life is necessary, which
Langdon was denied. While Langdon sports a high IQ his questionable
views often demonstrate a lack of practical application.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliers_(book)
Michael Grosberg
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> Smartest Man in the World Espouses Virtues of Eugenics
...and, according to Wikipedia, he believes in god and is a proponent
of some type of intelligent design. Make of it what you will.
Pax
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>
> Smartest Man in the World Espouses Virtues of Eugenics
>
>
> statement of fact. Mr. Langan�s IQ is nearly 200. Oh, and he�s spent 20
>
> This guy has had a rough life. As a kid he was abused by other kids and
> even his step father because he was smarter than all of them were. And if
> pessimistic.
>
> In reality, it�s pretty easy to see why he�s this way. In addition to the
> fact that he�s been brutalized all his life, during the interview he
> points out:
>
> �Smart people are vastly outnumbered by average people. Its the nature
> of the bell curve.�
>
> Chris Langan IQ ComparisonHere�s another way to think about this. Think
> person.
>
> and the average person is nearly 300% greater! Heck, the difference
> between him and a genius is as great as the difference between a genius
> and a retarded person!
>
> Now, imagine if you were that much smarter than every single living person
> capacity to imagine that� Damn. I guess I�d be bitter too. It reminds me
> of the movie Idiocracy.
>
> Anyway, having said all that, one problem I�ve noticed with extremely
> more powerful than all the other brains around them combined. And Chris
> falls into this trap during the final video when he begins espousing the
>
> Chris Langan:
>
> People who wanted to have children would apply to make sure they have
> no diseases. Why do we have to do it through genetic engineering? Well, we
> that is something that people have to be trained not to do.
>
> Interviewer:
>
> But who? Who does this training?
>
> Chris Langan:
>
>
> Yikes! Pretty scary stuff. Sounds like the precursor to Nazi Germany, or
> something from a Borg episode of Star Trek.
>
> If you actually watched all the parts of this, did you come out wondering
> how someone who scores so high on tests that measure problem solving
> ability could score so low on ability to relate to humanity in general?
> Could it be that individuals with brains that are highly specialized in
> one area simply become deficient in another?
>
> Because really, I may be a mental midget when it comes to quickly
> calculating squares and dots on an IQ test compared to Mr Langan, but I
> could teach him volumes about how to relate to society. It seems to me
> simply be accepted. But frankly, I don�t believe he is actually capable of
>
> Oh, one last thing. Chris penned what he calls the Cognitive Theoretic
> through the whole thing and frankly I�ve never seen so many words used to
>
> Official retraction (the first one ever! Yeah!)Due to some poor search
> results, coupled with poor research, and compounded by poor Web design, I
> crap! However, the real CTMU can be found here. So have fun.
>
> Anyway, feel free to check it out you feeble minded little humans!
Quoting from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan
[Quote]
He calls his proposal "a true 'Theory of Everything', a cross between John
Archibald Wheeler's 'Participatory Universe' and Stephen Hawking's
'Imaginary Time' theory of cosmology." In conjunction with his ideas, Langan
has claimed that "you can prove the existence of God, the soul and an
afterlife, using mathematics."
Langan is a fellow of the **International Society for Complexity,
Information, and Design (ISCID)**[[see below]], a professional society which
promotes intelligent design, and has published a paper on his CTMU in the
society's online journal Progress in Complexity, Information, and Design in
2002. Later that year, he presented a lecture on his CTMU at ISCID's
Research and Progress in Intelligent Design (RAPID) conference. In 2004,
Langan contributed a chapter to Uncommon Dissent, a collection of essays
that question unguided evolution and promote intelligent design, edited by
ISCID cofounder and leading intelligent design proponent William Dembski.
Asked about creationism, Langan has said:
"I believe in the theory of evolution, but I believe as well in the
allegorical truth of creation theory. In other words, I believe that
evolution, including the principle of natural selection, is one of the tools
used by God to create mankind. Mankind is then a participant in the creation
of the universe itself, so that we have a closed loop. I believe that there
is a level on which science and religious metaphor are mutually compatible."
[Close Quote]
Quoting from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Society_for_Complexity,_Information,_and_Design
[Quote]
The International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design (ISCID)
was a non-profit professional society that promoted intelligent design. and
rejected evolution. It sought to alter the scientific method to eliminate
what it saw as its materialistic, naturalistic, reductionistic and hence
atheistic underpinnings. The goal of the intelligent design movement the
Society supports is to "reverse the stifling materialist world view and
replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions"
and to "affirm the reality of God." The ISCID sought to undermine the
teaching of evolution and replace it with intelligent design.
[Close Quote]
Jesus is Lord,
Pax
Quadibloc
quoted, in part:
> Mr. Langan’s IQ is nearly 200. Oh, and he’s spent
> 20 years being a bouncer at a bar.
This is really sad.
I can see why you feel the need to mock him because of it.
And then you wonder _why_ some smart people have a bad attitude
towards lesser mortals? I mean, it's not as if we ask for much from
you. Just build some giant particle accelerators, build rockets to
Mars... pay a few extra pennies in taxes so we can have decent jobs.
Or even don't hurl so many H-1B visas around, but, yeah, we know our
companies have to compete in world markets (maybe this wouldn't be
such a problem if we didn't give our advantage away)...
Oh, that reminds me. I guess if the world's Muslims can face serious
problems on account of the very few who are terrorists... maybe the
worlds smart people are in an analogous situation.
Remember Klaus Fuchs... and a few other smart people like him?
Oh, hey, why not *really* go for broke, and throw in the tale of a
whole nation of smart people:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/opinion/12brooks.html
Smart people are more likely to believe in evolution than they are to
believe in the Rapture. Looking at the politics we see in the pages of
Scientific American, it seems they're less likely to think in tribal
terms about the need for America to be stronger than other countries
that are likely to be out to get us.
And while these may be generally good characteristics, as it happens,
a victory by militant Islam or Communism would be just as much of a
disaster for humanity as a victory by Nazism would have been. If
subtle social pressures to appear enlightened and sophisticated are
making smart people slower to realize this than ordinary people with
good common sense, that's a very bad thing.
It's our enemies who have promoted these subtle manipulations to which
many have fallen prey in our intellegentsia. The proper response is
not to facilitate these manipulations by further dividing our society,
pitting the ordinary people against the more clever and better
educated. That is just doing our enemies' work for them. If instead
the contributions of our scientists and engineers to our society are
recognized and respected, they will be more likely to heed the message
that we have a society that is worth defending - instead of one that
worships ignorance and ought to be replaced.
John Savard
Quadibloc
> Oh, hey, why not *really* go for broke, and throw in the tale of a
> whole nation of smart people:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/opinion/12brooks.html
>
> Smart people are more likely to believe in evolution than they are to
> believe in the Rapture. Looking at the politics we see in the pages of
> Scientific American, it seems they're less likely to think in tribal
> terms about the need for America to be stronger than other countries
> that are likely to be out to get us.
And Jews don't attend Christian church services regularly either, and
since there are Jews in France and Jews in Germany, they used to find
it harder to take seriously attempts in one of those countries to
demonize the other. (Of course, Germany did take care of that little
problem rather handily, didn't it?)
That's why I threw in that particular reference - the mind-set behind
"oh, these high-IQ types are weirdos who are out to get us" happens to
be a lot like anti-Semitism.
John Savard
Devils Advocaat
> http://onemansblog.com/2007/11/06/smartest-man-in-the-world-has-diarr...
>
>
There is not a single mention of Darwin (or Darwinism) in that article
about Charles Langan, who is by the way a supporter of Intelligent
Design.
And eugenics ... as they say in the film Starship Troopers ... "Do you
want to know more?"
A little bit of the history of eugenics for you.
Beginning in 1896 with Connecticut, laws with a eugenic criteria were
enacted in many US states prohibiting from marriage anyone who was
"epileptic, imbecile, or feeble-minded".
In Indiana in 1907 (the first of 30 states to do so) a law was passed
to allow the compulsory sterilization of certain individuals (the
confirmed criminals, idiots, imbeciles and rapists) who were at that
time confined in institutions.
These laws and others were upheld by the US Supreme Court in 1927 and
were not abolished until the mid-20th century.
Between 1907 and 1963 over 64,000 US citizens were subject to
compulsory sterilization under these laws.
Oddly enough the Eugenics Record Office was founded in 1910 by Charles
Benedict Davenport (who happened to be a Presbyterian) and its first
director was Harry Hamilton Laughlin (a member of the First Christian
Church of Kirksville).
This organisation advocated many eugenics laws until such time as it
closed in 1944.
Finally, during the Nuremburg Trails the members of Germany's Nazi
government justified the mass sterilization of almost half a million
people in less than ten years by citing the United States as their
inspiration.
So much for the words of the pledge of allegiance "with liberty and
justice for all".
ilbe...@gmail.com
wrote:
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>
Hes not too smart if all he is is a Bouncer . Even a person of high
IQ can suppress his conscience and knowledge so a personal theistic
Creator isnt necessary for a personal Cosmos. Thats called Pride and
Arrogance.
Ken
wrote:
> Thats called Pride and Arrogance.
So, that's why you won't back up this bullcrap, eh Dumbwit?
IlBeBa...@gmail.com posted this bullcrap:
"However, THIS one is Creationists can certainly prove an intelligent
Designer/Creator for the Cosmos"
Oh Yeah?
Then WTF is it, FOOL?
haiku jones
Sadly, several thousand Haitians just found out how
"personal" their cosmos is.
As do the 15,000 children who die, every day, day
in and day out, of starvation in their very own
personal cosmos.
Haiku Jones
Devils Advocaat
Are you assuming that bouncers have little or know intelligence?
That could be considered a prideful and arrogant position on your
part.
> Even a person of high
> IQ can suppress his conscience and knowledge so a personal theistic
> Creator isnt necessary for a personal Cosmos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan#Ideas.2C_affiliations.2C_and_publications
Let me see now.
" ... a fellow of the International Society for Complexity,
Information, and Design (ISCID) ... "
" ... a professional society which promotes intelligent design ... "
" ... Langan contributed a chapter to Uncommon Dissent, a collection
of essays that question unguided evolution and promote intelligent
design, edited by ISCID cofounder and leading intelligent design
proponent William Dembski ... "
I suggest that you should check things out before jumping to
conclusions.