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Mitchell Holman
Mar 26, 2013, 11:07:10 PM3/26/13
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1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
and air conditioning.
2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
just like hanging around tall people will encourage
you to be tall.
3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
doesn't exist.
4) Straight marriages are valid because they
produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
and the elderly are equally banned from getting
marriage licenses.
5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
like straight couples only raise straight children.
6) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. That
is why in a country like ours moral values are
shared by all and there is only one religion.
7) Children can never succeed without a mother
and father at home, which explains why there
are no single parent households.
8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
society which can never adapt to new social
norms, like women holding public office and
blacks being allowed to vote.
Joe Bruno
Mar 27, 2013, 12:21:46 AM3/27/13
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On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:07:10 PM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>
> and air conditioning.
>
>
>
> 2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
>
> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
>
> you to be tall.
>
>
>
> 3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
>
> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
>
> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
>
> doesn't exist.
Really?I know several Blacks who have white wives.
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>
> and air conditioning.
>
>
>
> 2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
>
> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
>
> you to be tall.
>
>
>
> 3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
>
> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
>
> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
>
> doesn't exist.
>
>
>
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
>
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
>
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
>
> marriage licenses.
HUH?My high school chum just got married for the first time at age 66.
>
>
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
>
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
>
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
>
> marriage licenses.
My aunt and uncle had to adopt because she could not bear children.
>
>
>
Bill Graham
Mar 27, 2013, 11:49:04 AM3/27/13
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
> and air conditioning.
Since approximately 5% of all pe3ople and animals are gay, I would hardly
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
> and air conditioning.
call it, "Unnatural".
> 2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
> you to be tall.
Gayness in born, and not chosen. Hanging around tall people doesn't make one
> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
> you to be tall.
tall, and hanging around gay people doesn't make one gay. So you are wrong
on both counts.
> 3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
> doesn't exist.
Do you live here on earth? How can you be so incorrect, and use your
> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
> doesn't exist.
incorrect statements as a justification for your incorrect conclusions?
>
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
> marriage licenses.
The elderly, as well as invertile couples are not banned from getting
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
> marriage licenses.
marriage licenses here in the US, nor in most countries here on Earth.>
> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
> like straight couples only raise straight children.
Not so either. (you are betting zero) The children raised by gay couples are
> like straight couples only raise straight children.
still only 5% gay, just like everyone else.
> 6) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. That
> is why in a country like ours moral values are
> shared by all and there is only one religion.
Ane which highly illogical (and intolerant) country would that be?
> is why in a country like ours moral values are
> shared by all and there is only one religion.
>
> 7) Children can never succeed without a mother
> and father at home, which explains why there
> are no single parent households.
The huge number of successful and creative gay people throughout history is
> 7) Children can never succeed without a mother
> and father at home, which explains why there
> are no single parent households.
the evidence against your dumb assertion.
>
> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
> society which can never adapt to new social
> norms, like women holding public office and
> blacks being allowed to vote.
If society could not adapt to "new social norms", we would still be living
> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
> society which can never adapt to new social
> norms, like women holding public office and
> blacks being allowed to vote.
in trees. The entire history of society is the adaption of new social norms.
Davej
Mar 27, 2013, 12:01:31 PM3/27/13
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On Mar 26, 10:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> [...]
9) Bill O'Reilly supports gay marriage therefore it is bad.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/27/oreilly-blasts-same-sex-marriage-critics/?hpt=hp_t2
> [...]
9) Bill O'Reilly supports gay marriage therefore it is bad.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/27/oreilly-blasts-same-sex-marriage-critics/?hpt=hp_t2
danlw...@philatty.org
Mar 27, 2013, 12:37:06 PM3/27/13
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Mr Graham - Not to usurp Mr. H's ability to speak for himself, but
your IHHUI and TIC [Intentionally Heavy Handed Use of Irony and
Rhetorical-Tongue In Cheek] Detectors seem to have been not fully
engaged.
(Hint: It is not clear that Mr. H basically disagreed with what you
say or, therefore, needed to be refuted to make the points you state.)
......................................................................................
On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:49:04 -0700, "Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
wrote:
your IHHUI and TIC [Intentionally Heavy Handed Use of Irony and
Rhetorical-Tongue In Cheek] Detectors seem to have been not fully
engaged.
(Hint: It is not clear that Mr. H basically disagreed with what you
say or, therefore, needed to be refuted to make the points you state.)
......................................................................................
On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:49:04 -0700, "Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
wrote:
MarkA
Mar 27, 2013, 1:52:15 PM3/27/13
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--
MarkA
If you can read this, you can stop reading now.
Dakota
Mar 27, 2013, 3:51:27 PM3/27/13
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Poe's Law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
Vinegar
Mar 27, 2013, 4:02:55 PM3/27/13
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On Mar 26, 11:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
> and air conditioning.
Gays are sick and need medical attention and not marriage
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
> and air conditioning.
>
> 2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
> you to be tall.
Gays people have been around tall people for a long
time they will never procreate, so why the label of marriage then?
Just for fun or a mean to advertise your depravity?
>
> 3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
> doesn't exist.
of those irregelious rebellious american whose ancestors
fled europe to engage into a slave selling business.
The whole wolrd has recorded some love song
between women and their lovers before getting married.
It is the liberal propangadists who want to depict
a submissive wife as a property as to make her
rebel and thus break up the family
>
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
> marriage licenses.
for the common good of society should be done in wedlock.
This is the wisdom of the ages and your new social engeneering
will be stoped. If infertile couples can't procreate
we seek to consult a doctor because it is an anomaly. Ederly
people have already procreated and done their part in sustaining
the common good in human family. Gay people bring nothing on the table
except
for their own pervert interest. They are nothing but a bunch of self-
centered
that only a pagan and demoniac CONSTITUTION of the USA
would protect
>
> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
> like straight couples only raise straight children.
>
> 6) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. That
> is why in a country like ours moral values are
> shared by all and there is only one religion.
the freedom of religion and by freedom of religion
it is meant plurality of religion - the framers of the
pagan constitution tried to put their document above
the Bible and thereby misled mankind.
They are already paying for their ARROGANCE
>
> 7) Children can never succeed without a mother
> and father at home, which explains why there
> are no single parent households.
IN ANY SOCIETY EXCEPT IN AMERICA
>
> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
> society which can never adapt to new social
> norms, like women holding public office and
> blacks being allowed to vote.
Human society will die out If everybody becomes gay.
And this is what you are promoting...
Dear Lord come back quickly, Pre-Christian Rome has reborn in America
-------
Devillepin, L'Afrique n'est pas un vil pain et elle n'a pas
de maitres non plus quelque soit ce que te feront croire
Mossi Dramane Ouattara et sa clique.
Bill Graham
Mar 27, 2013, 4:36:22 PM3/27/13
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(in German, of course) "Two plus two equals four" And therefore, all
arithmetic has thenceforth been nullified and made impossible to use, since
everything Hitler did and thought was wrong.
Bill Graham
Mar 27, 2013, 4:39:52 PM3/27/13
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this (and other) forums. (It is one of my great failings) so, I address each
post without any background information as if written in an unknown time,
and an unknown place by an unknown person. I am truely sorry about that.
deadrat
Mar 27, 2013, 4:48:03 PM3/27/13
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entirely ironic?
BG -- dumb as a boxcar of ball-peen hammers.
deadrat
Mar 27, 2013, 4:50:16 PM3/27/13
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On 3/27/13 11:37 AM, danlw...@philatty.org wrote:
> Mr Graham - Not to usurp Mr. H's ability to speak for himself, but
> your IHHUI and TIC [Intentionally Heavy Handed Use of Irony and
> Rhetorical-Tongue In Cheek] Detectors seem to have been not fully
> engaged.
Such detectors are known not to work in the presence of a ball-peen
> Mr Graham - Not to usurp Mr. H's ability to speak for himself, but
> your IHHUI and TIC [Intentionally Heavy Handed Use of Irony and
> Rhetorical-Tongue In Cheek] Detectors seem to have been not fully
> engaged.
hammer. Or a poster as dumb as one. They thus won't help BG.
Bill Graham
Mar 27, 2013, 4:52:06 PM3/27/13
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between 100 and 120, and IQ's above 120. This way, I might have some chance
of identifying toung-in-cheek answers from serious replies.....:^)
Bill Graham
Mar 27, 2013, 4:54:11 PM3/27/13
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deadrat
Mar 27, 2013, 4:58:24 PM3/27/13
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On 3/27/13 3:02 PM, Vinegar wrote:
> On Mar 26, 11:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
<snipped: homophobia/>
> On Mar 26, 11:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
>> society which can never adapt to new social
>> norms, like women holding public office and
>> blacks being allowed to vote.
>
> Gay marriage is NOT close in comparaison to black vote.
> Human society will die out If everybody becomes gay.
Since independent of the marriage thing, there's absolutely no chance of
everybody becoming gay, I'm guessing that's not your real problem.
"Phobia" comes from the Greek word for fear. And the phobia in
homophobic is the fear that you're gay.
deadrat
Mar 27, 2013, 5:03:04 PM3/27/13
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> so,
> I address each post without any background information as if written in
> an unknown time, and an unknown place by an unknown person.
linuxgal
Mar 27, 2013, 11:25:46 PM3/27/13
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--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Mar 27, 2013, 10:51:48 PM3/27/13
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On Mar 28, 6:36 am, "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Davej wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 10:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >> [...]
>
> > 9) Bill O'Reilly supports gay marriage therefore it is bad.
>
> >http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/27/oreilly-blasts-same-s...
> Davej wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 10:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >> [...]
>
> > 9) Bill O'Reilly supports gay marriage therefore it is bad.
>
>
> Adolf Hitler was resolving his bank account one day, and said to himself,
> (in German, of course) "Two plus two equals four" And therefore, all
> arithmetic has thenceforth been nullified and made impossible to use, since
> everything Hitler did and thought was wrong.
Hmmm. You mean eugenics might be OK after all?
> Adolf Hitler was resolving his bank account one day, and said to himself,
> (in German, of course) "Two plus two equals four" And therefore, all
> arithmetic has thenceforth been nullified and made impossible to use, since
> everything Hitler did and thought was wrong.
ala...@hotmail.co.uk
Mar 27, 2013, 11:00:14 PM3/27/13
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On Mar 27, 1:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
0) The Gheys are the only poor misguided fools that want to get
married these days. Heteros have at last woken up to the fact that
traditional marriage is a medieval throwback to the days of slaves and
slave owners, and has no place in a modern free society.
0) The Gheys are the only poor misguided fools that want to get
married these days. Heteros have at last woken up to the fact that
traditional marriage is a medieval throwback to the days of slaves and
slave owners, and has no place in a modern free society.
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K Wills
Mar 28, 2013, 4:55:23 AM3/28/13
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>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>> and air conditioning.
>
>Since approximately 5% of all pe3ople and animals are gay, I would hardly
>call it, "Unnatural".
[...]
>> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>> and air conditioning.
>
>Since approximately 5% of all pe3ople and animals are gay, I would hardly
>call it, "Unnatural".
Face palm!
--
Aibohphobia: The fear of palindromes.
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K Wills
Mar 28, 2013, 4:56:11 AM3/28/13
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:39:52 -0700, "Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>danlw...@philatty.org wrote:
>> Mr Graham - Not to usurp Mr. H's ability to speak for himself, but
>> your IHHUI and TIC [Intentionally Heavy Handed Use of Irony and
>> Rhetorical-Tongue In Cheek] Detectors seem to have been not fully
>> engaged.
>>
>> (Hint: It is not clear that Mr. H basically disagreed with what you
>> say or, therefore, needed to be refuted to make the points you state.)
[...]
>
>I plead guilty! I have a great deal of trouble keeping tabs on the people in
>this (and other) forums. (It is one of my great failings) so, I address each
>post without any background information as if written in an unknown time,
>and an unknown place by an unknown person. I am truely sorry about that.
You wouldn't necessarily need to know who wrote it, or from what
group it was sent. The comedic nature of the post should have come
through.
--
"I think Kent's more a groundhog than a mole."
-- Chuck Bryant
wrote:
>danlw...@philatty.org wrote:
>> Mr Graham - Not to usurp Mr. H's ability to speak for himself, but
>> your IHHUI and TIC [Intentionally Heavy Handed Use of Irony and
>> Rhetorical-Tongue In Cheek] Detectors seem to have been not fully
>> engaged.
>>
>> (Hint: It is not clear that Mr. H basically disagreed with what you
>> say or, therefore, needed to be refuted to make the points you state.)
>
>I plead guilty! I have a great deal of trouble keeping tabs on the people in
>this (and other) forums. (It is one of my great failings) so, I address each
>post without any background information as if written in an unknown time,
>and an unknown place by an unknown person. I am truely sorry about that.
group it was sent. The comedic nature of the post should have come
through.
--
"I think Kent's more a groundhog than a mole."
-- Chuck Bryant
Vinegar
Mar 28, 2013, 9:54:53 AM3/28/13
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So you are saying that there is way away to indulge in your depravity
of homosexuality without being married. NOW WHY THE MARRIAGE THING FOR?
deadrat
Mar 28, 2013, 1:06:44 PM3/28/13
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On 3/28/13 8:54 AM, Vinegar wrote:
> On Mar 27, 4:58 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> On 3/27/13 3:02 PM, Vinegar wrote:> On Mar 26, 11:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped: homophobia/>
>>
>>>> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
>>>> society which can never adapt to new social
>>>> norms, like women holding public office and
>>>> blacks being allowed to vote.
>>
>>> Gay marriage is NOT close in comparaison to black vote.
>>> Human society will die out If everybody becomes gay.
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> Since independent of the marriage thing, there's absolutely no chance of
>> everybody becoming gay, I'm guessing that's not your real problem.
>> "Phobia" comes from the Greek word for fear. And the phobia in
>> homophobic is the fear that you're gay.
>
> You are the ones wishing for everybody to become gay not me.
Ask your therapist what "projection" means. If you don't have one,
> On Mar 27, 4:58 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> On 3/27/13 3:02 PM, Vinegar wrote:> On Mar 26, 11:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped: homophobia/>
>>
>>>> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
>>>> society which can never adapt to new social
>>>> norms, like women holding public office and
>>>> blacks being allowed to vote.
>>
>>> Gay marriage is NOT close in comparaison to black vote.
>>> Human society will die out If everybody becomes gay.
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> Since independent of the marriage thing, there's absolutely no chance of
>> everybody becoming gay, I'm guessing that's not your real problem.
>> "Phobia" comes from the Greek word for fear. And the phobia in
>> homophobic is the fear that you're gay.
>
> You are the ones wishing for everybody to become gay not me.
please find one. And I don't mean one who claims to practice gay
"reparative" therapy. I mean someone qualified to deal with the latent
feelings that are clearly roiling your life.
I can't speak for everyone who supports marriage equality, but for me
the issue is a legal one concerning equal protection. I'm not
interested in other people's sexual orientation or activity.
> So you are saying that there is way away to indulge in your depravity
> of homosexuality without being married.
think about "depravity." People have sex, gay couples and straight,
married or no. You should probably restrict your interest to you and
your partner. Otherwise, it's none of your business.
NOW WHY THE MARRIAGE THING FOR?
provides for various benefits, and the question is whether the state may
treat some couples differently and deny them those benefits. Under
equal-protection law, the state must have some rational basis for
discrimination, and I don't believe it does.
Religious marriage is a different animal and will not be affected by
changes to the law regarding civil marriage.
Get help.
Bill Graham
Mar 28, 2013, 3:17:07 PM3/28/13
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it out of kindergarten alive. Its that other 1/10 of 1 % that gets them into
trouble......
deadrat
Mar 28, 2013, 3:23:46 PM3/28/13
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Vinegar
Mar 29, 2013, 11:32:03 AM3/29/13
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deadrat
Mar 29, 2013, 1:15:58 PM3/29/13
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Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
classes of people is discriminatory.
Do you even know what equal protection means?
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linuxgal
Mar 29, 2013, 9:30:55 PM3/29/13
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
> marriage licenses.
How do they know folks are infertile, do they get a three year trial run?
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
> marriage licenses.
linuxgal
Mar 29, 2013, 9:33:25 PM3/29/13
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
> like straight couples only raise straight children.
So in the 90% off chance their kids turn out to be straight, what do
> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
> like straight couples only raise straight children.
they do, put them up for adoption?
Bill Graham
Mar 29, 2013, 9:35:31 PM3/29/13
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Doctor Love wrote:
> Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Every single one of you!
>
Maybe so, but he sure has it in for all those little furry creatures he
freezes and starves to death every Winter. (after they are forced to watch
their kittens freeze and starve first)
> Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Every single one of you!
>
Maybe so, but he sure has it in for all those little furry creatures he
freezes and starves to death every Winter. (after they are forced to watch
their kittens freeze and starve first)
deadrat
Mar 29, 2013, 9:55:16 PM3/29/13
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On 3/29/13 6:44 PM, Doctor Love wrote:
And here we have to invoke Poe's law that says that at a certain level,
ignorance and parody of ignorance cannot be distinguished. Or there's
nothing so dumb that has been posted to misc.legal, that some ignoramus
hasn't posted dumber and in all seriousness.
> Dr. C Love
> Doctor of Homeopathy
Homeopathy is a type of medical quackery that rests on the notion that
like things cure like diseases, and that the more dilute the curative
agents, the more powerful they are. These quacks dilute their bogus
curative agents by multiple steps of factors of 10. A homeopathic
solution of 1X strength has been diluted in water to 10% or its
original; 2X, to 1%; 3X to .1%, and so on. The number of molecules of a
substance in the number of grams equal to is molecular weight is called
Avogadros's number, and it's on the order of 10^23. Thus, once you get
to 24X, the solution is expected to have only one molecule of the
curative substance. 30X solutions are common. That means that there is
only one chance in a million of there being even one molecule in the
solution.
> Master of Reikki Therapy
Reikki Therapy pretends to cure disease by the laying of the
practitioner's hands on the patient to redirect spiritual energy.
Studies have been done of this nonsense, and none has ever detected this
energy or found any therapeutic effect beyond suggestion. Except the
effect of the laying of the practitioner's hands on the patient's wallet.
<snip/>
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:07:10 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>> and air conditioning.
>>
> <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>> and air conditioning.
>>
>> 2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
>> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
>> you to be tall.
>>
>> 3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
>> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
>> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
>> doesn't exist.
>>
>> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
>> you to be tall.
>>
>> 3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
>> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
>> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
>> doesn't exist.
>>
>> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
>> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
>> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
>> marriage licenses.
>>
>> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
>> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
>> marriage licenses.
>>
>> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
>> like straight couples only raise straight children.
>>
>> like straight couples only raise straight children.
>>
>> 6) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. That
>> is why in a country like ours moral values are
>> shared by all and there is only one religion.
>>
>> 7) Children can never succeed without a mother
>> and father at home, which explains why there
>> are no single parent households.
>>
>> is why in a country like ours moral values are
>> shared by all and there is only one religion.
>>
>> 7) Children can never succeed without a mother
>> and father at home, which explains why there
>> are no single parent households.
>>
>> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
>> society which can never adapt to new social
>> norms, like women holding public office and
>> blacks being allowed to vote.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> All very good reasons, Brother Mitchell. Thank you and may God bless.
>> society which can never adapt to new social
>> norms, like women holding public office and
>> blacks being allowed to vote.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
And here we have to invoke Poe's law that says that at a certain level,
ignorance and parody of ignorance cannot be distinguished. Or there's
nothing so dumb that has been posted to misc.legal, that some ignoramus
hasn't posted dumber and in all seriousness.
> Dr. C Love
> Doctor of Homeopathy
Homeopathy is a type of medical quackery that rests on the notion that
like things cure like diseases, and that the more dilute the curative
agents, the more powerful they are. These quacks dilute their bogus
curative agents by multiple steps of factors of 10. A homeopathic
solution of 1X strength has been diluted in water to 10% or its
original; 2X, to 1%; 3X to .1%, and so on. The number of molecules of a
substance in the number of grams equal to is molecular weight is called
Avogadros's number, and it's on the order of 10^23. Thus, once you get
to 24X, the solution is expected to have only one molecule of the
curative substance. 30X solutions are common. That means that there is
only one chance in a million of there being even one molecule in the
solution.
> Master of Reikki Therapy
Reikki Therapy pretends to cure disease by the laying of the
practitioner's hands on the patient to redirect spiritual energy.
Studies have been done of this nonsense, and none has ever detected this
energy or found any therapeutic effect beyond suggestion. Except the
effect of the laying of the practitioner's hands on the patient's wallet.
<snip/>
Mitchell Holman
Mar 29, 2013, 9:56:00 PM3/29/13
to
linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in
news:L4idnUV9tf4kr8vM...@giganews.com:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
>> like straight couples only raise straight children.
>
> So in the 90% off chance their kids turn out to be straight, what do
> they do, put them up for adoption?
If it weren't for straight couples
there would be no gay couples.
news:L4idnUV9tf4kr8vM...@giganews.com:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
>> like straight couples only raise straight children.
>
> So in the 90% off chance their kids turn out to be straight, what do
> they do, put them up for adoption?
there would be no gay couples.
thomas p.
Mar 30, 2013, 8:07:09 AM3/30/13
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"Mitchell Holman" <nomailverizon.net> skrev i meddelelsen
news:XnsA192D49ADC0F2...@216.196.121.131...
Well golly, that means we have to forbid heterosexual marriage : )
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
news:XnsA192D49ADC0F2...@216.196.121.131...
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
Budikka666
Mar 30, 2013, 8:56:33 AM3/30/13
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On Mar 26, 10:07 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
> and air conditioning.
LIE. if it were unnatural it woudl nto be found in nature you
> 1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
> unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
> and air conditioning.
ignroant jerk off. And it's none of your business.
> 2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
> just like hanging around tall people will encourage
> you to be tall.
shtey choose to be a complete asshole like you.
> 3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
> and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
> blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
> doesn't exist.
lives.
> 4) Straight marriages are valid because they
> produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
> and the elderly are equally banned from getting
> marriage licenses.
ignramus. Ad it's none of your busienss.
> 5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
> like straight couples only raise straight children.
their children you interfering little prick.
> 6) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. That
> is why in a country like ours moral values are
> shared by all and there is only one religion.
and it's none of your business you arrogant asshole.
> 7) Children can never succeed without a mother
> and father at home, which explains why there
> are no single parent households.
> 8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
> society which can never adapt to new social
> norms, like women holding public office and
> blacks being allowed to vote.
You're a moron and a flatulent asshole who is worth no better response
than this.
Budikka
Mitchell Holman
Mar 30, 2013, 9:13:07 AM3/30/13
to
Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in news:e5da42e9-d777-4883-8c8b-
70ac34...@l5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
The article is SATIRE.
Sheesh..............
70ac34...@l5g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
Sheesh..............
Vinegar
Mar 30, 2013, 10:04:35 AM3/30/13
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can seek to protect a devious life style.
LAW ARE MEANT TO BE DISCRIMINATORY.
There is no life without discrimination. I mean Positive
discrimination
We always discriminate between right and wrong
But when the Government seeks to redefine
what is wrong and what is right... We say it has some hidden agendas
that we are ready to oppose.
-------
Devillepin, L'Afrique n'est pas un vil pain et elle n'a pas de maitres
non plus quelque soit ce que te feront croire Mossi Dramane
Ouattara et sa clique.
Free Lunch
Mar 30, 2013, 10:29:16 AM3/30/13
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
...
law is based on religious beliefs?
>LAW ARE MEANT TO BE DISCRIMINATORY.
Not in the sense being used in this discussion.
>There is no life without discrimination. I mean Positive
>discrimination
But switching the focus to another meaning of the word is just another
way to run away from the discussion.
>We always discriminate between right and wrong
That is what ethics or morality is.
>But when the Government seeks to redefine
>what is wrong and what is right... We say it has some hidden agendas
>that we are ready to oppose.
What agenda do you oppose? Why don't you want to treat people equally
under the law? How is it moral to treat some people badly? What religion
teaches that?
I know that some people used their religion to defend slavery, misogyny,
and other forms of bigotry, but just because they allege that their
religion teaches that that does not make their religious claim true or
moral.
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
...
>> > EQUAL PROTECTION LAW IS DISCRIMINATORY
>>
>> You don't have to shout. �I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>>
>> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
>> classes of people is discriminatory.
>>
>> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>
>No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
>can seek to protect a devious life style.
Pagan is a collection of religious beliefs. Why do you allege that our
>>
>> You don't have to shout. �I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>>
>> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
>> classes of people is discriminatory.
>>
>> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>
>No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
>can seek to protect a devious life style.
law is based on religious beliefs?
>LAW ARE MEANT TO BE DISCRIMINATORY.
>There is no life without discrimination. I mean Positive
>discrimination
way to run away from the discussion.
>We always discriminate between right and wrong
>But when the Government seeks to redefine
>what is wrong and what is right... We say it has some hidden agendas
>that we are ready to oppose.
under the law? How is it moral to treat some people badly? What religion
teaches that?
I know that some people used their religion to defend slavery, misogyny,
and other forms of bigotry, but just because they allege that their
religion teaches that that does not make their religious claim true or
moral.
deadrat
Mar 30, 2013, 1:29:21 PM3/30/13
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occur to you for even a minute that the post was making fun of
homophobes? Check out point 6: "a country like ours [where] there is
only one religion." Or 7: "there are no single parent households." Or
8: "society ... could never adapt to ... women holding public office...."
Do you get the idea now? Try doing this exercise on your own for 1-5.
I believe that equal protection law demands that rational people stand
on the side of marriage equality. But it's downright embarrassing to
find myself next to you.
Mitchell Holman
Mar 30, 2013, 1:47:31 PM3/30/13
to
deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote in
news:KsCdnbAbnuVvvcrM...@giganews.com:
Next time a representative from the
Foundation For The Satire Impared comes
calling think of Budikka and give generously.
news:KsCdnbAbnuVvvcrM...@giganews.com:
Foundation For The Satire Impared comes
calling think of Budikka and give generously.
deadrat
Mar 30, 2013, 1:54:36 PM3/30/13
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with US law. But in the United States, the government must justify
applying laws differently across different classes of people. If the
law concerns basic rights or discriminates on the basis of race, the
standard is so strict that almost no justification will be able to
withstand judicial scrutiny. Other classes receive less scrutiny, thus
allowing more discrimination. I'll be glad to give more details if
you're interested.
This topic is covered extensively in the briefs in the court case
concerning California's Proposition 8. Why haven't you investigated it?
> Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW can seek to protect a devious life style.
the United States, we classify laws as civil or criminal or as federal
or state. But all binding law comes from the government, and all of it
must be secular. Government law may not have a religious purpose.
> LAW ARE MEANT TO BE DISCRIMINATORY.
forbidden, you're correct. But in the US, only under strict guidelines
are laws are allowed to discriminate between different classes of people.
> There is no life without discrimination.
classification. And in that sense, you're right. I may discriminate
between strawberry and chocolate ice cream, preferring the former to the
latter. As a private citizen, I have broad latitude to discriminate
between different groups of people, preferring to associate with
heterosexuals instead of homosexuals. But the application of the law is
not granted that leeway.
> I mean Positive discrimination
> We always discriminate between right and wrong
individuals. And individuals may discriminate in ways that the state
may not.
> But when the Government seeks to redefine
> what is wrong and what is right...
is not. And in doing so, it must follow certain guidelines.
> We say it has some hidden agendas that we are ready to oppose.
may not like the proposals to change the law, and in the US you have a
strong-protected right to oppose the change. Who says otherwise?
<snip/>
Vinegar
Mar 30, 2013, 2:12:51 PM3/30/13
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On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>
>
>
> >On Mar 29, 1:15 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/29/13 10:32 AM, Vinegar wrote:
> ...
> >> > EQUAL PROTECTION LAW IS DISCRIMINATORY
>
> >> You don't have to shout. I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>
> >> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
> >> classes of people is discriminatory.
>
> >> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>
> >No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
> >can seek to protect a devious life style.
>
> Pagan is a collection of religious beliefs. Why do you allege that our
> law is based on religious beliefs?
No, pagans believe anything and nothing at the same time.
>
>
> >On Mar 29, 1:15 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/29/13 10:32 AM, Vinegar wrote:
> ...
> >> > EQUAL PROTECTION LAW IS DISCRIMINATORY
>
> >> You don't have to shout. I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>
> >> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
> >> classes of people is discriminatory.
>
> >> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>
> >No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
> >can seek to protect a devious life style.
>
> Pagan is a collection of religious beliefs. Why do you allege that our
> law is based on religious beliefs?
It is another form of atheism or secularism. Consequently
the Government that gives rise is a pagan Government
and its Laws pagan Law
Vinegar
Mar 30, 2013, 2:14:29 PM3/30/13
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> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
>
> That is what ethics or morality is.
So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
>
> That is what ethics or morality is.
of Homsexual marriage?
Mike Painter
Mar 30, 2013, 2:22:43 PM3/30/13
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:44:51 -0400, Doctor Love
<clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:07:10 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>
>Always remember:
Dear Dr Love,
Thank you for admitting that you really don't believe the crap you
post or that you don't read very well.
<clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:07:10 -0500, Mitchell Holman
><nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>>unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>>and air conditioning.
>>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>1) Being gay is unnatural. Real Americans reject
>>unnatural things, like eyeglasses and polyester
>>and air conditioning.
>>
>>2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay
>>just like hanging around tall people will encourage
>>you to be tall.
>>
>>just like hanging around tall people will encourage
>>you to be tall.
>>
>>3) Straight marriage has been around a long time
>>and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
>>blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
>>doesn't exist.
>>
>>and hasn't changed at all. Women are still property,
>>blacks cannot marry whites, and no fault divorce
>>doesn't exist.
>>
>>4) Straight marriages are valid because they
>>produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
>>and the elderly are equally banned from getting
>>marriage licenses.
>>
>>produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples
>>and the elderly are equally banned from getting
>>marriage licenses.
>>
>>5) Gay couples will only raise gay children just
>>like straight couples only raise straight children.
>>
>>like straight couples only raise straight children.
>>
>>6) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. That
>>is why in a country like ours moral values are
>>shared by all and there is only one religion.
>>
>>is why in a country like ours moral values are
>>shared by all and there is only one religion.
>>
>>7) Children can never succeed without a mother
>>and father at home, which explains why there
>>are no single parent households.
>>
>>and father at home, which explains why there
>>are no single parent households.
>>
>>8) Gay marriage will change the nature of
>>society which can never adapt to new social
>>norms, like women holding public office and
>>blacks being allowed to vote.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>society which can never adapt to new social
>>norms, like women holding public office and
>>blacks being allowed to vote.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>All very good reasons, Brother Mitchell. Thank you and may God bless.
>
>
>Dr. C Love
>Doctor of Homeopathy
>Master of Reikki Therapy
>Doctor of Homeopathy
>
>Always remember:
>Jesus love's you and so do I!
>Every single one of you!
>
>Believing is seeing - Think about it! :)
>Every single one of you!
>
Dear Dr Love,
Thank you for admitting that you really don't believe the crap you
post or that you don't read very well.
deadrat
Mar 30, 2013, 2:47:35 PM3/30/13
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your benighted religious beliefs. In the US, laws must be secular; they
may have no religious purpose.
Sometimes the ethical and the legal coincide, usually with respect to
hurting other people. Thus murder is against both moral and criminal
codes. Homosexuality, not so much. When two homosexuals marry, they
don't hurt anybody or anything else.
Except maybe your feelings, which have no legal standing.
deadrat
Mar 30, 2013, 2:55:35 PM3/30/13
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Perhaps "rube" conveys better the contemptuous connotation. Paganism
came to refer to the local, ethnic religious beliefs opposed by the
established Abrahamic religions. "Heathen" and "infidel" have much the
same meaning.
> Consequently
> the Government that gives rise is a pagan Government
This is nonsense, as your premise is wrong. In the US, all binding law
is secular, which is to say non-religious, based on neither Paganism nor
Christianity.
Free Lunch
Mar 30, 2013, 4:09:04 PM3/30/13
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>On Mar 30, 10:29�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 29, 1:15�pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> >> On 3/29/13 10:32 AM, Vinegar wrote:
>> ...
>> >> > EQUAL PROTECTION LAW IS DISCRIMINATORY
>>
>> >> You don't have to shout. �I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>>
>> >> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
>> >> classes of people is discriminatory.
>>
>> >> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>>
>> >No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
>> >can seek to protect a devious life style.
>>
>> Pagan is a collection of religious beliefs. Why do you allege that our
>> law is based on religious beliefs?
>
>No, pagans believe anything and nothing at the same time.
Your ignorance of the meaning of the word is noted.
>It is another form of atheism or secularism.
It is not, but you clearly do not care. If you cared, you would learn
and admit your mistake.
> Consequently
>the Government that gives rise is a pagan Government
>and its Laws pagan Law
>
Wrong.
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>On Mar 30, 10:29�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 29, 1:15�pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> >> On 3/29/13 10:32 AM, Vinegar wrote:
>> ...
>> >> > EQUAL PROTECTION LAW IS DISCRIMINATORY
>>
>> >> You don't have to shout. �I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>>
>> >> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
>> >> classes of people is discriminatory.
>>
>> >> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>>
>> >No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
>> >can seek to protect a devious life style.
>>
>> Pagan is a collection of religious beliefs. Why do you allege that our
>> law is based on religious beliefs?
>
>No, pagans believe anything and nothing at the same time.
>It is another form of atheism or secularism.
and admit your mistake.
> Consequently
>the Government that gives rise is a pagan Government
>and its Laws pagan Law
>
Free Lunch
Mar 30, 2013, 4:38:52 PM3/30/13
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
Are you familiar with the concept of facts?
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
Are you familiar with the concept of facts?
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Mike Painter
Mar 31, 2013, 3:46:06 PM3/31/13
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:30:23 -0400, Doctor Love
<clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote:
>I never said that. Your a lier. All liers will be cast in to the Lake
>of Fire.
Are you claiming that "All very good reasons, Brother Mitchell. Thank
you and may God bless." is a forgery?
If so then show the evidence. Probably beyond the ability of anyone
who claims to be a Doctor of Homeopathy and Master of Reikki Therapy.
It would require hands on work.
<clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote:
>of Fire.
Are you claiming that "All very good reasons, Brother Mitchell. Thank
you and may God bless." is a forgery?
If so then show the evidence. Probably beyond the ability of anyone
who claims to be a Doctor of Homeopathy and Master of Reikki Therapy.
It would require hands on work.
Onion
Apr 1, 2013, 6:37:04 PM4/1/13
to
On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>
> >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
>
> >> That is what ethics or morality is.
>
> >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> >of Homsexual marriage?
>
> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
>
> >> That is what ethics or morality is.
>
> >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> >of Homsexual marriage?
>
> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
years. Only in America some perverts are advocating
a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
the pretense of equality.
---------
Devillepin, L'Afrique n'est pas un vil pain et elle n'a pas de
maitre non plus quelque soit ce que te feront croire
Mossi Dramane Ouattara et sa clique
>
>
Onion
Apr 1, 2013, 6:41:59 PM4/1/13
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On Mar 30, 4:09 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> >> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >> >On Mar 29, 1:15 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 3/29/13 10:32 AM, Vinegar wrote:
> >> ...
> >> >> > EQUAL PROTECTION LAW IS DISCRIMINATORY
>
> >> >> You don't have to shout. I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>
> >> >> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
> >> >> classes of people is discriminatory.
>
> >> >> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>
> >> >No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
> >> >can seek to protect a devious life style.
>
> >> Pagan is a collection of religious beliefs. Why do you allege that our
> >> law is based on religious beliefs?
>
> >No, pagans believe anything and nothing at the same time.
>
> Your ignorance of the meaning of the word is noted.
If it is not the definition that I provided then it is not the correct
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> >> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >> >On Mar 29, 1:15 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 3/29/13 10:32 AM, Vinegar wrote:
> >> ...
> >> >> > EQUAL PROTECTION LAW IS DISCRIMINATORY
>
> >> >> You don't have to shout. I can hear every crazed thing you say just fine.
>
> >> >> Please explain how the mandate that laws be applied equally across
> >> >> classes of people is discriminatory.
>
> >> >> Do you even know what equal protection means?
>
> >> >No, I don't... Yet I still think that only PAGAN LAW
> >> >can seek to protect a devious life style.
>
> >> Pagan is a collection of religious beliefs. Why do you allege that our
> >> law is based on religious beliefs?
>
> >No, pagans believe anything and nothing at the same time.
>
> Your ignorance of the meaning of the word is noted.
one.
Paganism includes anismism, polytheism, spirit worship, idol worship,
reason worship... and so on and so on
>
> >It is another form of atheism or secularism.
>
> It is not, but you clearly do not care. If you cared, you would learn
> and admit your mistake.
>
> > Consequently
> >the Government that gives rise is a pagan Government
> >and its Laws pagan Law
>
> Wrong.
get over it.
----------
There is no God but Jesus and Madiba is his Messenger
Onion
Apr 1, 2013, 6:46:12 PM4/1/13
to
deadrat
Apr 1, 2013, 6:55:01 PM4/1/13
to
On 4/1/13 5:37 PM, Onion wrote:
> On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>>>>> We always discriminate between right and wrong
>>
>>>> That is what ethics or morality is.
>>
>>> So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
>>> of Homsexual marriage?
>>
>> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
>> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
>
> Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> years.
First of all, that's nonsense. Secondly, the same can be said about
> On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>>>>> We always discriminate between right and wrong
>>
>>>> That is what ethics or morality is.
>>
>>> So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
>>> of Homsexual marriage?
>>
>> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
>> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
>
> Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> years.
slavery. So what?
> Only in America some perverts are advocating
> a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
> the pretense of equality.
<snip/>
Father Haskell
Apr 1, 2013, 6:55:32 PM4/1/13
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On Mar 27, 4:02 pm, Vinegar <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course children learn by example.
You mean they'll learn not to hate? Your right to object.
>
> Of course children learn by example.
You mean they'll learn not to hate? Your right to object.
deadrat
Apr 1, 2013, 6:58:28 PM4/1/13
to
hammers.
Pagans aren't godless. They just worship gods different from yours.
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 1, 2013, 7:59:36 PM4/1/13
to
In article
<63628c27-a422-4ff4...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Pagans aren't godless.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
<63628c27-a422-4ff4...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 1, 2013, 8:00:32 PM4/1/13
to
In article
<0d9aef6f-99ba-4319...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Then why is the US so far behind so many other 1st world countries in
having marriage equality?
<0d9aef6f-99ba-4319...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Onion <kolw...@astromail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 4:38�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> > <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >
> > >On Mar 30, 10:29�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
> >
> > >> That is what ethics or morality is.
> >
> > >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> > >of Homsexual marriage?
> >
> > Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> > depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
>
> Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> years. Only in America some perverts are advocating
> a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
> the pretense of equality.
Oh, really.
> On Mar 30, 4:38�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> > <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >
> > >On Mar 30, 10:29�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
> >
> > >> That is what ethics or morality is.
> >
> > >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> > >of Homsexual marriage?
> >
> > Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> > depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
>
> Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> years. Only in America some perverts are advocating
> a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
> the pretense of equality.
Then why is the US so far behind so many other 1st world countries in
having marriage equality?
Free Lunch
Apr 1, 2013, 10:08:37 PM4/1/13
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On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:46:12 -0700 (PDT), Onion <kolw...@astromail.com>
Pagan refers to a number of different religious beliefs. It has nothing
to do with secular.
Stop celebrating your ignorance or being so proud of the lies you tell.
to do with secular.
Stop celebrating your ignorance or being so proud of the lies you tell.
Bill Graham
Apr 1, 2013, 11:51:35 PM4/1/13
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duke
Apr 2, 2013, 8:19:14 AM4/2/13
to
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:59:36 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
A bottle of bourbon is not what he had in mind.
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
********************************************
wrote:
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
********************************************
Malcolm McMahon
Apr 2, 2013, 8:39:34 AM4/2/13
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On Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:02:55 UTC, Onion wrote:
>
>
> Women have never been a property only in the land
>
> of those irregelious rebellious american whose ancestors
>
> fled europe to engage into a slave selling business.
Read up on the legal concept of "Civil Death" sometime. Traditionally a wife pretty much stopped being an individual in law, and became a mere appendage to her husband.
Also try looking up the old custom of wife selling at Smithfields.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, sex are meant for procreation and procreation
>
> for the common good of society
I don't know if you've noticed, but we've got a bit of an overpopulation problem, to the extent that a large part of the bio-sphere (especially the bits of interest to us) is close to collapse.
Children are a personal indulgence, not a duty these days.
>
>
> Women have never been a property only in the land
>
> of those irregelious rebellious american whose ancestors
>
> fled europe to engage into a slave selling business.
Read up on the legal concept of "Civil Death" sometime. Traditionally a wife pretty much stopped being an individual in law, and became a mere appendage to her husband.
Also try looking up the old custom of wife selling at Smithfields.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, sex are meant for procreation and procreation
>
> for the common good of society
I don't know if you've noticed, but we've got a bit of an overpopulation problem, to the extent that a large part of the bio-sphere (especially the bits of interest to us) is close to collapse.
Children are a personal indulgence, not a duty these days.
Onion
Apr 2, 2013, 10:22:05 AM4/2/13
to
On Apr 1, 10:08 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:46:12 -0700 (PDT), Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com>
Secularism according to the BIBLE is a form of paganism.
A wrong belief... A belief of those who put REASON before God
Or those who worship themselves and their pagan Laws
>
> Stop celebrating your ignorance or being so proud of the lies you tell.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:46:12 -0700 (PDT), Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com>
A wrong belief... A belief of those who put REASON before God
Or those who worship themselves and their pagan Laws
>
> Stop celebrating your ignorance or being so proud of the lies you tell.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Onion
Apr 2, 2013, 10:22:40 AM4/2/13
to
On Apr 1, 7:59 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <63628c27-a422-4ff4-91a6-85a54f9d3...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
>
> --
>
> JD
>
> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden- Hide quoted text -
> In article
> <63628c27-a422-4ff4-91a6-85a54f9d3...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
>
> --
>
> JD
>
> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden- Hide quoted text -
Onion
Apr 2, 2013, 10:38:18 AM4/2/13
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On Apr 2, 4:47 am, K Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:37:04 -0700 (PDT), Onion
> Your point?
> while.
List the countries here... And we will take it from there
>
> --
> Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.- Hide quoted text -
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:37:04 -0700 (PDT), Onion
>
>
>
>
>
> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> >> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >> >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> >> >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
>
> >> >> That is what ethics or morality is.
>
> >> >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> >> >of Homsexual marriage?
>
> >> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> >> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
> >Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> >in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> >years.
>
> As was interracial marriage.
>
>
>
>
> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> >> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >> >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> >> >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
>
> >> >> That is what ethics or morality is.
>
> >> >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> >> >of Homsexual marriage?
>
> >> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> >> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
> >Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> >in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> >years.
>
> Your point?
>
> >Only in America some perverts are advocating
> >a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
> >the pretense of equality.
>
> Not true. Other countries have allowed same sex marriage for a
> >Only in America some perverts are advocating
> >a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
> >the pretense of equality.
>
> while.
List the countries here... And we will take it from there
>
> --
> Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.- Hide quoted text -
Onion
Apr 2, 2013, 10:41:26 AM4/2/13
to
On Apr 1, 8:00 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <0d9aef6f-99ba-4319-ac0b-2795bf564...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> In article
>
>
>
>
>
> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> > > <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> > > >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
>
> > > >> That is what ethics or morality is.
>
> > > >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> > > >of Homsexual marriage?
>
> > > Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> > > depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
> > Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> > in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> > years. Only in America some perverts are advocating
> > a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
> > the pretense of equality.
>
> Oh, really.
>
> Then why is the US so far behind so many other 1st world countries in
> having marriage equality?
Why? Because of the pagan constitution and the pagan system of
>
>
>
>
> Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
> > > <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> > > >On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > >> >We always discriminate between right and wrong
>
> > > >> That is what ethics or morality is.
>
> > > >So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
> > > >of Homsexual marriage?
>
> > > Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
> > > depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>
> > Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
> > in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
> > years. Only in America some perverts are advocating
> > a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
> > the pretense of equality.
>
> Oh, really.
>
> Then why is the US so far behind so many other 1st world countries in
> having marriage equality?
Government
so called democracy
>
> --
>
> JD
>
> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden- Hide quoted text -
Onion
Apr 2, 2013, 10:46:25 AM4/2/13
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is a matter for concern. And a blow to DEMOCRACY,
a pagan system of Government advocated by a knee-jerk
pagan by the name Thomas Jefferson among others...
-----
Devillepin, L'Afrique n'est pas un vil pain, et elle n'a pas de
maitres
non plus quelque soit ce que te feron croire Mossi Dramane Ouattara
et sa clique
>
> <snip/>- Hide quoted text -
deadrat
Apr 2, 2013, 1:19:57 PM4/2/13
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> A wrong belief...
Secularism isn't a belief.
> A belief of those who put REASON before God
> Or those who worship themselves and their pagan Laws
Didn't Jesus say "Render unto Caesar...."?
deadrat
Apr 2, 2013, 1:22:03 PM4/2/13
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On 4/2/13 9:22 AM, Onion wrote:
right, but both of you are worshiping gods. Secular law doesn't involve
gods.
deadrat
Apr 2, 2013, 1:30:24 PM4/2/13
to
Belgium
Canada
Iceland
Mexico
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
No xenophobic screeds about how these folks, Argentinians to Swedes, are
going to hell. Your claim is that only in the US do people advocate
marriage equality. Your claim is wrong.
deadrat
Apr 2, 2013, 1:31:11 PM4/2/13
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deadrat
Apr 2, 2013, 1:34:16 PM4/2/13
to
On 4/2/13 9:46 AM, Onion wrote:
> On Apr 1, 6:55 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> On 4/1/13 5:37 PM, Onion wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>>>> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> We always discriminate between right and wrong
>>
>>>>>> That is what ethics or morality is.
>>
>>>>> So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
>>>>> of Homsexual marriage?
>>
>>>> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
>>>> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>>
>>> Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
>>> in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
>>> years.
>>
>> First of all, that's nonsense. Secondly, the same can be said about
>> slavery. So what?
>
>
>
>
>>
>>> Only in America some perverts are advocating
>>> a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
>>> the pretense of equality.
>>
>> Check the latest polls. The "perverts" make up a majority.
>
> That the majority of fools should rule the few wise man left
> is a matter for concern.
> On Apr 1, 6:55 pm, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> On 4/1/13 5:37 PM, Onion wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 30, 4:38 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Vinegar
>>>> <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 10:29 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> We always discriminate between right and wrong
>>
>>>>>> That is what ethics or morality is.
>>
>>>>> So why the fuss about discriminating against the deparavity
>>>>> of Homsexual marriage?
>>
>>>> Because you have totally failed to show us that same sex marriage is
>>>> depraved. Your bigotry is not evidence that you are correct.
>>
>>> Homosexuality has always been regarded as a depravity
>>> in every society under the SUN for thousands and thousands
>>> years.
>>
>> First of all, that's nonsense. Secondly, the same can be said about
>> slavery. So what?
>
>
>
>
>>
>>> Only in America some perverts are advocating
>>> a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
>>> the pretense of equality.
>>
>> Check the latest polls. The "perverts" make up a majority.
>
> That the majority of fools should rule the few wise man left
> is a matter for concern.
Dontcha just hate it when that happens?
> And a blow to DEMOCRACY,
It's a blow to democracy when the majority rules? Isn't that pretty
much the definition of democracy?
> a pagan system of Government advocated by a knee-jerk
> pagan by the name Thomas Jefferson among others...
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 2, 2013, 6:10:23 PM4/2/13
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In article
<92bca8bb-c6b3-4b9c...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Argentina
Belgium
Canada
Denmark
Iceland
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
Spain
South Africa
Sweden
Several states in Brazil and Mexico.
And pending in:
Andorra
Colombia
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Luxembourg
Nepal
New Zealand
Taiwan
the United Kingdom
Uruguay
Scotland
parts of Australia
<92bca8bb-c6b3-4b9c...@n4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Belgium
Canada
Denmark
Iceland
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
Spain
South Africa
Sweden
Several states in Brazil and Mexico.
And pending in:
Andorra
Colombia
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Luxembourg
Nepal
New Zealand
Taiwan
the United Kingdom
Uruguay
Scotland
parts of Australia
Jeanne Douglas
Apr 2, 2013, 6:11:03 PM4/2/13
to
In article
<d4fd2b28-4cb6-449d...@f5g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
They still worship gods, so they aren't godless.
<d4fd2b28-4cb6-449d...@f5g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
Father Haskell
Apr 2, 2013, 6:28:34 PM4/2/13
to
On Apr 2, 10:46 am, Onion <kolwe...@astromail.com> wrote:
>
> That the majority of fools should rule the few wise man left
> is a matter for concern. And a blow to DEMOCRACY,
> a pagan system of Government advocated by a knee-jerk
> pagan by the name Thomas Jefferson among others...
www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/hconres331.pdf
>
> That the majority of fools should rule the few wise man left
> is a matter for concern. And a blow to DEMOCRACY,
> a pagan system of Government advocated by a knee-jerk
> pagan by the name Thomas Jefferson among others...
Free Lunch
Apr 2, 2013, 6:34:12 PM4/2/13
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:22:40 -0700 (PDT), Onion <kolw...@astromail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:
No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to offer
any actual evidence to support their allegation.
wrote in alt.atheism:
any actual evidence to support their allegation.
Free Lunch
Apr 2, 2013, 6:35:01 PM4/2/13
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:22:05 -0700 (PDT), Onion <kolw...@astromail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:
Where does the Bible say that? The closest it says to anything about
secularism is "render onto Caesar..."
wrote in alt.atheism:
secularism is "render onto Caesar..."
Free Lunch
Apr 2, 2013, 6:36:58 PM4/2/13
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On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:34:16 -0500, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote in
alt.atheism:
Racists, bigots, religious nuts, and all sorts of other people refuse to
understand that they are the marginal folks in modern society and that
they have lost the argument. Once upon a time, those people were in the
majority and democracy was a method of oppressing the unwanted, but we
have become somewhat more enlightened.
alt.atheism:
understand that they are the marginal folks in modern society and that
they have lost the argument. Once upon a time, those people were in the
majority and democracy was a method of oppressing the unwanted, but we
have become somewhat more enlightened.
Free Lunch
Apr 2, 2013, 6:37:27 PM4/2/13
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:41:26 -0700 (PDT), Onion <kolw...@astromail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:
No god has ever offered a government worthy of respect.
wrote in alt.atheism:
Free Lunch
Apr 2, 2013, 6:38:58 PM4/2/13
to
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:30:24 -0500, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote in
alt.atheism:
I'd be happy to move to half of those countries tomorrow. Tolerant
people and economies that don't suck.
Apparently the bigots here not only hate gays, but they want our economy
to go back into a depression.
alt.atheism:
people and economies that don't suck.
Apparently the bigots here not only hate gays, but they want our economy
to go back into a depression.
Bill Graham
Apr 2, 2013, 7:07:10 PM4/2/13
to
taken with a grain of salt. They were pushing their own religious beliefs,
and their bias is evident throughout the text.
Bill Graham
Apr 2, 2013, 7:26:16 PM4/2/13
to
married, or if they are married, why would aI care any more than I would
care if the heterosexual coup,le who lived across the street were married or
not? Why on earth would it be either my business or in any way my concern?
And, in view of the fact that there is a seperate tax table for, "married
couples", shouldn't everyone be able to take advantage of that table? So, by
any legal standard, they should have the constitutional right to marry.
Bill Graham
Apr 2, 2013, 7:29:37 PM4/2/13
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are, "Godless". Religion, in fact, is the personification of prejudice. The
world would be much better off without it. It is a fairy tale made up to
pacify children that got out of hand and became a pacifier for everyone who
should know better.
Bill Graham
Apr 2, 2013, 7:37:46 PM4/2/13
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universal cry of the religious person.
K Wills
Apr 3, 2013, 4:46:47 AM4/3/13
to
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:22:40 -0700 (PDT), Onion
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote:
[...]
>> > > This is nonsense, as your premise is wrong. �In the US, all binding law
>> > > is secular, which is to say non-religious, based on neither Paganism nor
>> > > Christianity.
>>
>> > Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
>>
>> Pagans aren't godless.
>
>Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
true to him.
--
Heartbreak is a burden to us all. Pity the man with two.
K Wills
Apr 3, 2013, 4:47:39 AM4/3/13
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT), Onion
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote:
[...]
>>
Belgium
Mexico
Sweden
Norway
There are others, but the four I list should serve to prove your
claim that "Only in America..." is wrong.
--
"Mass genocide is the most exhausting practice one can engage in.
Next to soccer."
<kolw...@astromail.com> wrote:
[...]
>>
>> >Only in America some perverts are advocating
>> >a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
>> >the pretense of equality.
>>
>> � � �Not true. Other countries have allowed same sex marriage for a
>> while.
>
>List the countries here... And we will take it from there
>
A sample (in no particular order):
>> >a NEW SOCIAL INGENEERING to legalize it under
>> >the pretense of equality.
>>
>> � � �Not true. Other countries have allowed same sex marriage for a
>> while.
>
>List the countries here... And we will take it from there
>
Belgium
Mexico
Sweden
Norway
There are others, but the four I list should serve to prove your
claim that "Only in America..." is wrong.
--
"Mass genocide is the most exhausting practice one can engage in.
Next to soccer."
Message has been deleted
Free Lunch
Apr 3, 2013, 6:35:26 PM4/3/13
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On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:48:17 -0500, K Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism:
>On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>wrote:
>they worship, no matter which god they worship?
I dn't doubt that they worship, but they have no idea if the worship is
valid.
in alt.atheism:
>On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>wrote:
>
>>>> > Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
>>>>
>>>> Pagans aren't godless.
>>>
>>>Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
>>>
>>No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to offer
>>any actual evidence to support their allegation.
>
> If they claim to worship, wouldn't that stand as evidence that
>>>> > Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
>>>>
>>>> Pagans aren't godless.
>>>
>>>Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
>>>
>>No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to offer
>>any actual evidence to support their allegation.
>
>they worship, no matter which god they worship?
I dn't doubt that they worship, but they have no idea if the worship is
valid.
Onion
Apr 4, 2013, 2:40:50 PM4/4/13
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On Apr 3, 4:48 am, K Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> wrote:
>
> >>> > Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
>
> >>> Pagans aren't godless.
>
> >>Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
>
> >No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to offer
> >any actual evidence to support their allegation.
>
>
> >>> Pagans aren't godless.
>
> >>Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
>
> >No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to offer
> >any actual evidence to support their allegation.
>
> If they claim to worship, wouldn't that stand as evidence that
> they worship, no matter which god they worship?
This is the opinion of the Godless heathens...But we know that Idol
> they worship, no matter which god they worship?
worship
is hardly a correct form of worship and as it breeds irrationality,
that scourge
that our Savior saved us from.
Bill Graham
Apr 4, 2013, 7:50:35 PM4/4/13
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other such things in all the "main stream" religious palaces also, "idols"?
If not, then what, exactly distinguishes idols from these other religious
symbols that people put on their mantles and in their houses of worship?
•RLMeasures
Apr 4, 2013, 8:54:10 PM4/4/13
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In article <h8adnflK4PlTjMPM...@giganews.com>, "Bill Graham"
graven image thing is out.
.
<we...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Onion wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 4:48 am, K Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
> >>
> >>>>> Pagans aren't godless.
> >>
> >>>> Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
> >>
> >>> No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to
> >>> offer any actual evidence to support their allegation.
> >>
> >> If they claim to worship, wouldn't that stand as evidence that
> >> they worship, no matter which god they worship?
> >
> > This is the opinion of the Godless heathens...But we know that Idol
> > worship
> > is hardly a correct form of worship and as it breeds irrationality,
> > that scourge
> > that our Savior saved us from.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Heartbreak is a burden to us all. Pity the man with two.
>
> And isn't nativity scenes, crosses, and pictures of angels with wings and
> other such things in all the "main stream" religious palaces also, "idols"?
• Most of the modern stuff is injection-molded thermoplastic so the
> Onion wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 4:48 am, K Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
> >>
> >>>>> Pagans aren't godless.
> >>
> >>>> Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
> >>
> >>> No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to
> >>> offer any actual evidence to support their allegation.
> >>
> >> If they claim to worship, wouldn't that stand as evidence that
> >> they worship, no matter which god they worship?
> >
> > This is the opinion of the Godless heathens...But we know that Idol
> > worship
> > is hardly a correct form of worship and as it breeds irrationality,
> > that scourge
> > that our Savior saved us from.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Heartbreak is a burden to us all. Pity the man with two.
>
> And isn't nativity scenes, crosses, and pictures of angels with wings and
> other such things in all the "main stream" religious palaces also, "idols"?
graven image thing is out.
.
Bill Graham
Apr 4, 2013, 9:54:41 PM4/4/13
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not.....:^)
�RLMeasures
Apr 4, 2013, 11:00:24 PM4/4/13
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In article <_pOdnc9rh615s8PM...@giganews.com>, "Bill Graham"
<we...@comcast.net> wrote:
� injection molded is definitely not sinful.
<we...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Free Lunch
Apr 5, 2013, 8:55:05 AM4/5/13
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:45:34 -0500, K Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism:
>On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT), Onion
><kolw...@astromail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 3, 4:48�am, K Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> > Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
>>>
>>> >>> Pagans aren't godless.
>>>
>>> >>Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
>>>
>>> >No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to offer
>>> >any actual evidence to support their allegation.
>>>
>>> � � �If they claim to worship, wouldn't that stand as evidence that
>>> they worship, no matter which god they worship?
>>
>>This is the opinion of the Godless heathens...But we know that Idol
>>worship
>
> Like the cross and pictures of Jesus?
>that they do worship a god. Yes, it's possible someone may lie about
>it, but it's been my experience that if someone claims they worship a
>god, they do.
> Note that Fee Lunch's claim is that those who claim to worship
>have ever managed to offer any actual evidence that they do.
You need to read what I said more carefully. I said that those who claim
to worship what they call the True God have no evidence that what they
are worshipping is indeed a true god. I don't question that they
worship.
in alt.atheism:
>On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT), Onion
><kolw...@astromail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 3, 4:48�am, K Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:34:12 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> > Secular Law are Godless law therefore pagan Laws
>>>
>>> >>> Pagans aren't godless.
>>>
>>> >>Pagan worship Idols and not the True God
>>>
>>> >No one who claims to worship the "True God" has ever managed to offer
>>> >any actual evidence to support their allegation.
>>>
>>> � � �If they claim to worship, wouldn't that stand as evidence that
>>> they worship, no matter which god they worship?
>>
>>This is the opinion of the Godless heathens...But we know that Idol
>>worship
>
>
>>is hardly a correct form of worship and as it breeds irrationality,
>>that scourge that our Savior saved us from.
>>
>
> If someone claims they worship a god, it should stand as evidence
>>is hardly a correct form of worship and as it breeds irrationality,
>>that scourge that our Savior saved us from.
>>
>
>that they do worship a god. Yes, it's possible someone may lie about
>it, but it's been my experience that if someone claims they worship a
>god, they do.
> Note that Fee Lunch's claim is that those who claim to worship
>have ever managed to offer any actual evidence that they do.
You need to read what I said more carefully. I said that those who claim
to worship what they call the True God have no evidence that what they
are worshipping is indeed a true god. I don't question that they
worship.
Bill Graham
Apr 5, 2013, 5:21:12 PM4/5/13
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whatsoever, nor ever seen or heard of any evidence that such an entity
exists anywhere at any time. So, I am forced to question it just as I
question any ridiculous childish fairy tale which is patently impossible no
matter how many idiots say they believe in it. They all have, of course, a
big motive for wanting to believe in it, since it tells them that they will
live forever, and any normal human being knows that this is impossible. Most
reasonable people donlt believe in something just because it would be nice
to believe in it. Most require some evidence wstronger than that. but the
religious seem to have a belief system that is skewed by their desire rather
than their ability to reason.
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